韩国的深度伪造色情问题有多严重？| 街头采访

 
 
 
@Skw1813
Never mind just Korea, this whole generative ai thing is going to do so much bad for everyone. It's going to be an issue in every country.
 
何止是韩国，这波生成式AI浪潮绝对会给所有人带来深重的灾难，每个国家都逃不开这个问题的波及。
 
@JR-qt8qb
People who develop these tools should be looked into.
 
这些工具的开发者真的应该被好好调查一番。
 
@heididlr5433
This issue trended worldwide on Twitter for several days, yet many interviewees seem unaware of the full scope of the Nth Room scandal and the nationwide calls for help. They focus on Instagram and Telegram, not realizing it's much broader. While I'm pleased that Asian Boss included a diverse set of generations, I’m disappointed by the lack of awareness among Gen Z and Gen Alpha.
 
这件事在推特热搜上挂了好几天，可不少受访者居然连"N号房"事件的全貌和全民求救行动都不清楚。他们只盯着Instagram和Telegram，根本没有意识到事态波及的范围有多广。虽然Asian Boss节目涵盖多世代受访者的做法值得肯定，但Z世代和Alpha世代表现出的无知实在令人失望。
 
@DavidNunezPNW
In the video there are two women who said something like this has happened to them already. I think Korea does have a serious problem here. I am so sorry they had to go through that, it's such an awful and violating thing!
 
视频里有两位女性亲口承认经历过类似的遭遇，韩国在这方面确实存在严重的问题。她们竟然要遭受如此不堪的侵害，实在是令人痛心！
 
@Neekoolos
What is the practical use of Deepfake? All I can think of is putting an actors face on a stunt double in movies. I'd be fishy of anyone who uses it "for fun".
 
深度伪造技术到底有什么实际用途？我唯一能想到的就是在电影里把演员的脸替换到特技替身身上。至于那些号称只是“图个乐子”而使用这项技术的人，我可信不过他们。
 
@sra-0001
i recently started to follow some korean activists on twt and this is, in fact, a huge problem over there. every day there is a new horrifc story where the victim is yet again a woman, kid or adult. the thing that make this case different from the one in other continents is that at least, in west society, a woman can find some help and hopefully get a fair sentence for the perpetrator. meanwhile in korea, not only the law is awful for these cases, but the moment a girl try to speak out men will call her a feminist in a derogatory way and will try to bring them down in any way they can. that's why these kr feminists on twt are trying to raise awareness on this issue by also sharing their stories, they know overseas we care and will speak for them too.
 
最近我开始关注一些韩国女性权益活动人士的推特，我不得不说那里的情况确实非常严重。几乎每天都会爆出新的恐怖案件，受害者无一例外又是女性——无论是孩童还是成年人。与其他大陆的情况不同，至少在西方社会，女性受害者还能寻求帮助，加害者也有望得到应有的惩罚。然而在韩国，不仅相关的法律形同虚设，更可怕的是只要女性敢发声，男性就会用"女权主义者"这个充满贬义的标签来攻击她们，不择手段地进行打压。正因如此，这些韩国女性主义者才在推特上不断分享亲身经历，她们知道海外有人关注，也愿意为她们发声。
 
@Starfire10982
Notice how a lot of the men here seem very detached from the issue. Even downplaying the issue. It doesn’t seem like they care, but you know, Korea is a man’s paradise only. I really feel for Korean women. Stay strong…
 
你有没有发现这里的很多男性对这个问题表现得异常冷漠，甚至刻意轻描淡写。他们看起来根本不在乎，但要知道，韩国可是男性至上的天堂啊。我真心为韩国女性感到痛心，请一定要坚持下去……
 
@peatkortenjan5676
To everyone saying this happens anywhere, while definitely true, korea has seen unprecedented levels of this phenomenon, which is especially difficult to deal with legally due to the young age of a lot of perpetrators
 
虽然这种问题在哪儿都有，但韩国的严重程度确实前所未见。尤其棘手的是很多加害者的年纪太小，在法律上很难追究责任。
 
@babiibleu
With the rapid growth of AI technology, the government needs to find a collective way to regulate improper use. However, that’s a whole other conversation that must be discussed — Internet censorship & privacy regulations.
 
随着AI技术的飞速发展，政府必须制定集体规范来管束滥用行为。不过这就牵扯出另一个需要深入讨论的话题——网络审查与隐私保护的平衡问题。
 
@mydogisbailey
This technology is destructive and dangerous. Are there possible benefits? Yes, but the risk is literally not worth the damage to human lives.
 
这项技术在本质上是具有破坏性和危险性的。它固然可能带来某些好处，但与对人类的生活造成的潜在伤害相比根本得不偿失。
 
@angelpapadopoulos7210
I see the men answering questions are beating around the bush. Can someone explain why majority of the rooms where this garbage was shared were labeled "humiliation rooms"? Same with Burning Sun scandal, same with Nth Room scandal, same with molka, why are so many Korean men's "sexual fantasies" based in the humiliation and degradation of the women and girls around them? Why aren't we talking about THAT?
 
我看那些回答问题的男人都在拐弯抹角。有没有人能解释一下，为什么分享这些垃圾内容的聊天室大多被标为"羞辱房"？燃烧的太阳事件是这样，N号房事件是这样，偷拍也是这样，为什么这么多韩国男人的"性幻想"都建立在羞辱和贬低身边的女性的基础上？我们为什么避而不谈这个核心问题？
 
@Error_four_zero_four
Thank you for following up on this story. If possible please interview local officials regarding this matter. The world is watching.
 
感谢你们跟进报道。如果可能的话，请采访当地官员谈谈此事，因为全世界都在关注。
 
@Julie-jl2kk
ooh i feel like the women interviewed here should have worn masks or censored their face somehow
 
我觉得这些受访女性应该戴个口罩或者做些面部遮挡处理。
 
@user-lsoj0609
안타깝게도 정치인들이 모두 매우 심하게 늙어서 딥페이크 관련 법을 만들 지능이 없습니다. 식당 키오스크도 못쓰는 사람들이 딥페이크가 뭔지 알긴 할까요?ㅋㅋ
 
可悲的是政客们都老朽不堪，根本没有能力制定与深度伪造相关的法律。连餐厅自助点餐机都不会用的人，怎么可能理解什么是深度伪造技术？
 
@sanpohg
I love korea, but i think it’s something to recognize that their economy boomed so quickly that their social standards should not have developed so quickly in response. The way women are valued so little is just an example. I hope we hear and see less of these Miryang 44, Nth room cases…
 
我热爱韩国，但必须承认他们的经济腾飞太快，社会观念根本跟不上发展的节奏，女性的价值被严重低估就是明证。希望今后能少听到些密阳44案、N号房这类事件......
 
@Floof1248
It is getting very bad and Meta aka facebook also not doing enough.. many semi nude or nude deep fakes of Blackpink members, Itzy Yuna is all over Facebook pages and groups.. the most famous was semi nude of Jisoo by this page “Jisoo Fans” which post deepfake of Jisoo, semi nude or nude in their Story every few days. Report the page also useless because Meta AI doesn’t want to remove it.
 
情况变得越来越糟糕，而Meta（也就是脸书）却始终没有采取足够的措施……现在Facebook的各个页面和群组里充斥着Blackpink成员以及Itzy的Yuna的半裸或全裸深度伪造的内容。其中最臭名昭著的就是"Jisoo Fans"这个主页，他们每隔几天就会发布Jisoo的换脸合成照片，不是半裸就是全裸。举报这个主页根本没用，因为Meta的人工智能系统就是不愿意删除这些内容。
 
@꿈빛나래
미국과 영국에서도 테일러스위프트와 같은 연예인, 일반인들의 ai 포르노 영상이 매우 활발하게 제작되고 유포된다고 합니다. 이건 대한민국만의 문제가 아닙니다.. 세계는 ai와 딥페이크에 대한 대처 방법을 마련해야 할 것입니다.
 
听说在美国和英国，像泰勒·斯威夫特这样的明星以及普通人的AI换脸色情视频也在被大量制作和传播。这不仅仅是韩国面临的问题……全世界都必须尽快制定出应对AI和深度伪造技术的对策才行。
 
@Kekkeri59
You can literally make whatever photos you want, in every position you can imagine, about any woman on earth. Just type the prompt and AI will create it in 2 minutes. It's really that simple and it cannot be stopped. Every day these tools are becoming more sophisticated, soon they can make whole videos with full plots
 
现在你完全可以根据自己的想象为地球上任何一个女性生成各种姿势的照片。只要输入几个关键词，AI两分钟就能搞定。事情就是这么简单，而且根本阻止不了。这些工具每天都在变得更先进，很快它们就能制作出带有完整剧情的视频了。
 
@haskar-by5pl
I feel sorry for the victims, but I would like to point out the reporting behavior of the Korean media from a larger perspective. Since I am very interested in Korea, I get news about Korea through various media (mainly YouTube), but the Korean media tends to report exaggeratedly. Most of the news is filled with sensational crime news. I have even seen minor assaults or thefts reported very seriously on national news. Such sensational reporting may be the people's right to know, but when it goes too far, it increases social anxiety and destroys mutual trust. And I am watching that in real time right now.
 
我为受害者感到难过，但我想从更宏观的角度谈谈韩国媒体的报道风格。由于我对韩国非常感兴趣，平时会通过各类媒体（主要是YouTube）获取韩国新闻，但韩国媒体总是喜欢夸大其词。绝大多数新闻版面都被耸人听闻的犯罪事件占据，我甚至见过把轻微的斗殴或小偷小摸当成重大事件在全国新闻里大肆报道的情况。这种煽情式的报道或许满足了公众的知情权，但过度渲染不仅会加剧社会焦虑，更会侵蚀人与人之间的信任基础——而此时此刻，我正亲眼见证着这种恶性循环。
 
@ahasver923
This is not that big of an issue in Korea.
Sure, it made a few headlines for a couple of days in the news portals.
Those perpetrators, if minors, will face no punishment. NIL.
Even if they're adults, they may get probation to maybe a year in prison.
The real issues Koreans talk about on a daily basis is more concerning the absurdly weak consequences for any crime committed.
You can have several drunk driving records and eventually kill a few people, yet the system will slap you on the wrist with maybe 5 years prison max?
You can rape minors over a span of decade or so, and maybe you'll get 5 years?
Korea desperately needs law reform. But it won't happen. Why is that?
Maybe Asian Boss can do some actual reporting with tackling such topic.
This type interview format you put up surely informs the world with diverse views, but some like this particular one you posted today is pure lazy journalism.
 
在韩国，这个问题其实并没有闹得特别大。
虽然确实在新闻门户网站上刷了几天头条，但热度很快就过去了。
那些施暴者如果是未成年人，他们根本不会受到任何惩罚——零处罚。
就算是成年人，最多也就是缓刑或者关个一年左右。
韩国人日常讨论的真正问题其实是各种犯罪行为面临的处罚轻得离谱。
有人多次酒驾甚至闹出人命，司法系统却只是轻轻拍打手腕，最多判个五年？
有人性侵未成年人长达十年之久，结果可能只判五年？
韩国亟需司法改革，但改革就是推不动，这到底是为什么？
或许Asian Boss该好好做一期专题报道，深入探讨这个话题。
你们现在的这种访谈形式虽然能呈现多元观点，但像今天发布的这种内容，纯粹就是新闻界的偷懒行为。
 
@Kidkromechan
I like the old man's answer in regard to AI. It's a part of natural progression. We will eventually learn to manage and adapt to it together but the process to get there will be very painful. Humans need pain to drive them. If not this then something else would have been there. We create our own poison and learn to fight it. It's all a thrill and games but we give meaning to it using big words like our duties, love, and compassion.
 
我很欣赏那位长者关于人工智能的回答，这不过是自然演进的一部分。我们终将学会共同驾驭和适应它，但这个过程必然充满阵痛。人类需要痛苦作为驱动力——即便没有AI，也会有其他挑战出现。我们亲手酿制自己的毒药，又学会与之对抗。这一切本是一场刺激的游戏，却偏要用责任、爱与慈悲这些宏大的词汇来赋予意义。
 
@sonofsarek
Is it any really different than what people did in the past? Cosplay adult parody movies, adobe acrobat editing, cartoons… AI is just the next evolution of that. If you are famous, you have to come to terms with it and accept it. It comes with the job.
 
这和过去的把戏真的有本质区别吗？从成人cosplay电影、Adobe特效剪辑到卡通动画…AI不过是这类把戏的最新进化形态。身为名人，你必须与之和解并接纳它——这就是成名的代价。
 
@sevenproxies4255
I think deepfake porn could be a blessing in disguise that women should welcome.
The more common it becomes, the less impactful things like revenge porn or a previous career in the adult industry will be.
Think about it: let's say you're worried about your chances of getting or keeping a particular job because maybe you worked in porn in the past or you have an ex who couldn't deal with the break-up like an adult and decided to post intimate pictures of you online.
You now have an easy way out of it. If people ask, just say someone must have lifted your face from pictures in social media and used an AI prompt to make deepfake porn of you. Even if real pictures of you have been leaked, you can blame online perverts with AI and have more than plausible deniability.
The more common it becomes, the more aware employers, co-workers, family and friends will be and will probably just be sympathetic since it could happen to anyone.
And if you don't have a sordid past at all, then you can blame the same thing.
 
我认为深度伪造色情内容或许会成为女性因祸得福的转机，甚至值得欢迎。
这类技术越是普及，复仇式的色情或过往成人行业经历带来的负面影响就会越微弱。
试想一下这种情况：假如你正因曾经从事色情行业而担忧求职或留任的机会，又或者某个不成熟的前任在分手后恶意上传了你的私密照片。
现在你有了完美的托辞——只要声称有人从社交媒体盗用你的照片，通过AI合成深度伪造色情内容即可。即便真实照片确实外泄，你也可以归咎于AI技术滥用的变态之徒，从而获得足够合理的推诿空间。
随着这类现象日益普遍，雇主、同事、亲友的认知度也会提升，他们很可能会表示同情，毕竟谁都可能成为受害者。
如果是你根本没有不光彩的过往，同样可以套用这套说辞。
 
@mikesully110
Impressed by how intelligent and level headed the Koreans were during the interview at the end, they thought rationally and considered different viewpoints, even realizing that just giving the government blanket surveillance wouldn't really help as perps will just switch to even more underground software - their education system is obviously doing something well that us in the west lack! Imagine if they'd interviewed people from the USA or the UK of similar demographics and you'd have hysterical nonsense.
I think the girls at the end had a good idea, preventative education but make it clear - doing this deepfaking is a crime, you will be investigated, and if you are caught punishment will be severe! But this deepfake issue (same with the hidden cam hotel scandals) are part of a deeper issue in society IMO - such as S Koreans starting to Lie Flat / become Hikikomori - if S Korean dating lives were more healthy people perhaps wouldn't feel the need to do this deepfake nonsense. And a big part of that is cracking down on 996 wage slavery - of course people can't date if they are working 9am - 9pm 6 days a week to barely afford a tiny apartment - how will romance happen then? Until the S Korean government makes life more fair and tolerable for the young and lower income, they will continue to have all these problems. Of course there will always be the minority who will do it regardless - but then policework and prison should sort that out.
 
韩国受访者在访谈尾声展现出的理智与冷静令人印象深刻，他们不仅思路清晰、权衡多方观点，更敏锐地意识到单纯赋予政府全面监控权根本无济于事——犯罪分子只会转向更隐蔽的地下软件。这种思辨能力恰恰凸显了韩国教育体系的成功之处，而这正是我们西方社会所欠缺的！试想如果采访同等教育背景的英美民众，恐怕只会听到一堆情绪化的荒唐言论。
结尾那几位女生的提议很有价值：开展预防性教育时必须明确强调——制作深度伪造内容属于犯罪行为，警方必将追查到底，一旦落网必将受到严惩！但深伪技术乱象（与偷拍酒店丑闻一样）本质上折射出了韩国社会更深刻的结构性问题。当越来越多年轻人选择"躺平"或成为"蛰居族"，当婚恋市场持续畸形发展，这类扭曲的行为自然有了滋生的土壤。而解决问题的关键在于破除"996薪资奴役"制度——年轻人若被迫每周六天朝九晚九拼命工作，却连蜗居都难以负担，哪还有精力经营感情？韩国政府若不从根本上改善中低收入群体的生存环境，这类社会顽疾必将持续发酵。当然，总会有少数冥顽不灵之徒——那就该让警方的铁拳和监狱的高墙来教他们做人。