全球列车电气化进程，印度达到99%

harhs
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Railway Line Length
Switzerland ~5,300 km
Uttar Pradesh ~9,000 – 9,500 km
Chatgpt

铁路线路长度：
瑞士：约 5,300 公里
北方邦（印度）：约 9,000 – 9,500 公里
数据来源：ChatGPT

Kaam4
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outjerked by UP

在比拼中被北方邦无情碾压。

The_liberandu
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UP is six times larger than switzerland

北方邦的面积比瑞士大六倍。

fabulous_eyes1548
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China 167000 km.

中国：167,000 公里。

chorangioma
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Really impressive we did it with such a large network..tells you incompetence isn't quite the problem we think it is especially when they actually wanna get something done .. it's just the political will

在如此庞大的铁路网上实现这一点确实令人印象深刻。这说明“无能”并不是真正的阻碍，只要政府真的想干成某件事，关键还是在于政治意愿。

BigBrotato
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China has more electrified rail than we have total rail
Total Indian railway length ~70k km
China electrified rail length ~120k km

中国已实现的电气化铁路里程甚至比我们的铁路总里程还多。
印度铁路总里程：约 7 万公里
中国电气化铁路里程：约 12 万公里

Gigachandriya
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China is also way bigger too, has more cities and more high-speed railway lines that have to be electric (#1 in the world), your point?

但中国也大得多啊，城市更多，而且必须使用电力的客运高铁线路也更多（世界第一）。所以你想说明什么？

DrawingDramatic1641
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more spread cities
like urumqi harbin and hainan are just different geographies atp

他们的城市分布更散，比如乌鲁木齐、哈尔滨和海南，这些地方的地理环境完全是天差地别。

BigBrotato
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my point is that jerking off to the thought of us beating China's electrification percentage figures is a bit laughable considering that 82% of China's railway network is almost twice the length of India's entire network.

我的意思是，仅仅因为我们在电气化比例上超过了中国就沾沾自喜，这有点可笑。要知道，中国 82% 的铁路网长度几乎是印度整个铁路网的两倍。

Gigachandriya
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we can't beat China because they are just bigger, simple as that

我们赢不了中国是因为他们块头大，就这么简单。

DukeofDabra
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And China is almost thrice as big as India. Now let's compare railway length per square kilometre of area.

而且中国的领土几乎是印度的三倍。不如我们来比较一下每平方公里的铁路密度。

I_WENT_OUT_FOR_TEA
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My guy, look at the quality of their train compared to ours where even a 2 month old coach looks like it has been in service for 80 years

伙计，看看人家火车的质量，再看看我们的。我们这儿哪怕是才下线两个月的车厢，看起来都像已经服役了 80 年一样破旧。

Realistic-Language88
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Look at they respect public property & look at how our people treat it.

看看人家是怎么爱护公共财产的，再看看我们的人是怎么对待它的。

MarionberryWeird1195
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Abe land area hi kam hai China se toh kya railway lines teri gaand mai bana de

嘿，土地面积本来就比中国小，那铁路还能修到你屁股里去吗？

BigBrotato
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abbe gadhe ke aulaad, most of China's railway network is concentrated on the eastern side of the country. and their HSR network alone is 50k km.

你这笨蛋，中国的大部分铁路网都集中在东部地区。而且光是他们的高铁网络就有 5 万公里长。

Opening_Garbage_9052
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Are to bc India ka itna concentrated nhi hai because need nhi hai na chodu. Need hoti h to bante h stations

我说你这傻瓜，印度没那么集中是因为没那个必要。只要有需求，车站自然会修起来。

Opening_Garbage_9052
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Everyone works with their relative setting! You're a pessimist loser and that's okay because relative to your standard that might be an achievement!
That's why we talked in percentages and not Total length.

每个人都是基于各自的国情在发展！你就是个悲观的失败者，不过也正常，毕竟按照你的标准这可能算某种“成就”。这就是为什么我们要讨论百分比而不是总长度。

rakerrealm
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To compare better we must use per capital. Amount of km of rail line by population.

为了更公平地比较，我们应该用人均数据。也就是按人口平均分配的铁路里程。

Queasy_Artist6891
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China is also much bigger with an area roughly 3x India's area. So they need a bigger total railway, and our railway is almost 1.5x denser(as in length per unit area)

中国要大得多，面积约是印度的 3 倍。所以他们当然需要更长的铁路总量，但实际上我们的铁路密度（单位面积的长度）几乎是他们的 1.5 倍。

rohmish
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most of their population is around the South China Sea Shore. north west is mostly empty.

他们的人口大部分集中在东南沿海。西北部大部分地区都是荒无人烟的。

BigBrotato
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have you seen a map of China's rail network, population hotspots, and geographical regions?
if anything, you're proving my point.

你看过中国铁路网、人口分布和地理区域的地图吗？如果你看过，你刚才的话其实是在证明我的观点。

National_Battle_4413
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True. Also, certain routes that take freight from main land to western regions may not be commercially viable to electrify. If train running frequency is low, they can stick to diesel for now, until an eco option like hydrogen powered engines appear.

确实。而且某些从内陆通往西部地区的货运线路在商业上可能不具备电气化的价值。如果列车班次很少，目前维持柴油动力更划算，直到氢动力等环保方案成熟。

GodOfBlunder_
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Do you understand what is the meaning of percentage?

你到底懂不懂百分比是什么意思？

BigBrotato
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yee, which is why I also understand that percenrage by itself is a meaningless figure. do you not get this concept?

懂啊，正因为懂，我才明白孤立地看百分比是个毫无意义的数字。你难道不理解这个逻辑吗？

Diligent_Number_9866
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They have more funds / money as well as their economy is bigger

他们的资金更雄厚，经济规模也更大。

Nicesheepherder386
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China can never 100% electrify it’s railways. Tibet is impossible.

中国永远无法实现 100% 电气化。在西藏地区是不可能做到的。

hinduxirxumsized
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India has also made highest number of lux cozy baniyan
PROUD INDIAN

印度还生产了数量最多的豪华舒适内衣呢。
身为印度人我很自豪。

sree-subash
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China has lower electrification because its railway network is very large and includes many remote areas where electrifying is costly, so it focuses more on important route

中国的电气化率较低，是因为其铁路网极为庞大，且包含了许多电气化成本极高的偏远地区，因此他们更侧重于主要干线。

Cheap-Comfort4669
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See the debt....
That will also make you feel

看看他们的债务吧……那也会让你“深有感触”的。

Few_Cartographer4720
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This is just validation at this point. We should make more improvements and know that there's a lot of years to improve.

这只是一种阶段性的肯定。我们应该继续改进，并意识到未来还有很长的路要走。

745_AERO
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Yes, electrification doesnt make any major progress at all

没错，电气化本身并没有带来什么实质性的重大进步。

Few_Cartographer4720
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Strawman fallacy.

典型的稻草人谬误。

LockheedP-3Orion
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No. It's not.
It does make progress for the railway industry by way of superior energy efficiency with 95% of energy transferred to the wheels compared to only 30% for diesel trains, while also providing lower long-term operating costs and reduced maintenance due to fewer moving parts.
However, a significant majority of India's railway electricity is generated from coal. While Indian Railways has achieved nearly 99.2% to 99.4% electrification of its Broad Gauge network, the power grid itself relies heavily on fossil fuels, with approximately two-thirds to three-fourths of India's total electricity coming from coal-fired thermal plants.
It's like this.
I don't know from where I get the electricity when I switch on my fan or light in my house. I'm not burning anything...... But the,
Coal is the primary source for India's household electricity, accounting for approximately 70.8% to 75% of the total power generated in the country as of the 2025-26 fiscal year.

不，并非如此。
电气化确实推动了铁路行业的进步，因为它具有极高的能量效率——95% 的能量都能转化为动力，而柴油机车仅为 30%。同时，由于运动部件较少，它还能降低长期运营成本并减少维护工作。
然而，印度铁路使用的电力绝大部分仍源自煤炭。虽然印度的宽轨网络已实现约 99.2% 至 99.4% 的电气化，但电网本身严重依赖化石燃料，印度约三分之二到四分之三的电力来自燃煤火电厂。

情况就像是：当我在家打开风扇或电灯时，虽然我没在烧东西，但我并不知道这些电是从哪来的。
事实上，煤炭仍是印度生活用电的主要来源。截至 2025-26 财年，煤电约占全国总发电量的 70.8% 至 75%。

Few_Cartographer4720
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It's true whatever u said but what if the fossil fuels are exhausted?

你说的没错，但如果化石燃料耗尽了怎么办？

LockheedP-3Orion
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Fossil fuels eventually will runout. They are not an infinite resource. One day it will eventually run out.
UAE realized it and they transformed UAE into a destination for the bourgeois, the workers and the ultra rich alike.
So, when the fossil fuels are exhausted, people like you would go to Mars if allowed by the dispensation.
I would be long dead by then.

化石燃料终究会耗尽，它们不是无限的。早晚会有那一天。
阿联酋意识到了这一点，于是将自己转型成了中产、劳工和超级富豪的聚集地。
所以，等燃料耗尽时，像你这样的人如果条件允许大概会搬去火星。
而到那时，我早就作古了。

Few_Cartographer4720
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Electrification is good but civic sense is most important. The janta ruins Vande Bharat in infrastructure, yes though I admit the foods they provide are mid.

电气化是好事，但公民意识最重要。民众把“致敬印度号”（Vande Bharat）的基础设施都给破坏了。不过我也承认，车上提供的食物确实一般。

StonksUpMan
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Railway electrification is a very niche metric, China or West isnt really putting a lot of effort on improving it. India has big issues with reliance on foreign countries for oil, and with air pollution, so its more important for us to do this.

铁路电气化是一个非常小众的指标，中国或西方国家并没有投入巨大精力去刷这个数据。但印度面临严重的石油进口依赖和空气污染问题，所以这对我们来说至关重要。

eaudexj
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Rail length in China - 165000
India - 65-70k

中国铁路里程：165,000 公里
印度铁路里程：6.5 - 7 万公里

Supreme_Leader6969
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China had better PR , that's it .
We are very good at getting things done , unless it's votebank related .

中国只是公关做得更好罢了。
我们其实非常擅长搞建设，只要不牵扯到选票利益。

LeoValdez_UncleLeo
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Aj samjha delusional kaise dikhta h

今天我算见识到“妄想症”长什么样了。

Alternative_Hour6370
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In what way is that statement delusional? Indians always have an inferiority complex and we can see it by your statement. Even the Chinese people themselves said that China is doing an outer development to show off to the world. You go to China and say these two lines "Taiwan is a free country" and "Tibet is not part of China", and just see how fast you will get arrested.

那句评价哪里妄想了？印度人总是有种自卑感，从你的话里就能看出来。就连中国人自己也说，他们搞基建是为了向世界炫耀。你去中国说两句“台湾（地区）是DU立G家”或“*Z不属于中国”试试，看你被抓的速度有多快。

Supreme_Leader6969
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People here just too eager for foreign validation and see the country through social lens only while sextively ignoring good points about our country .

这儿的人就是太渴望外国的认可了，只用社交媒体的视角看问题，却选择性地忽视了我们国家的优点。

Careless_Feeling8057
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Ain't no way bro lives in this delusion

哥们儿，你不会真的活在这种幻觉里吧？

indianjedi
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I loled at "we are very good at getting things done".
Iss kachra at every km votebnak related?
Are bad quality roads ( not even bad they are abysmal at some places) votebank related?
Paying bribe for each and every thing you do votebank related.
We are jackshit at doing things.
It's just that electrification thing we did was good and fast.

看到“我们擅长搞建设”我直接笑喷了。
难道每公里路上的垃圾也跟选票有关吗？
那些劣质马路（有些地方烂得简直离谱）也跟选票有关吗？
办什么事都要行贿也跟选票有关吗？
我们在正事上一塌糊涂。
只不过这次电气化确实做得又好又快。

Saraswatjha145
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iska matlab hai ki kam kiya ja skta hai karne wala hona chaiye

这说明只要有人愿意去干，事还是能办成的。

Alternative_Hour6370
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We are jack shit at putting up the issues not doing things. Just tell me, you are talking here giving up opinions and stuff but did you ever try it yourself to pursue municipal corporations to fix the road

我们在提出问题上是一流的，但在解决问题上却很差劲。我就问你，你在这儿指点江山，但你有没有亲身去促使市政局修过哪怕一段路？

_dexterzprotege
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As someone who had been to China a few times, I can say that it's not PR. they're at least a 100 years ahead of us. You should see for yourself they're so fucking awesome in terms of development and infrastructure.

作为一个去过中国好几次的人，我可以负责任地告诉你，那绝不是公关。他们在发展和基建方面领先我们至少 100 年，那里的基建水平简直强得离谱，你应该亲眼去看看。

-Borgir
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Always the ones who know fuck all that have the loudest mouths

通常越是狗屁不懂的人，嗓门就越大。

I_WENT_OUT_FOR_TEA
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I would suggest you watch some videos regarding China, not from their youtubers, from the ones who are travelling and/or living there for some amount of time
What things are we good at? I don't see us anywhere close to the global standard in terms of infrastructure development and such? We might even be one of worst in terms of infrastructure vs population

我建议你去看看关于中国的视频。别看他们官方的，去看看那些在那儿旅游或定居了一段时间的人拍的。
我们到底擅长什么？在基建发展这些方面，我完全看不出我们哪里达到了国际标准。就基建与人口的比例而言，我们可能是表现最差的国家之一。

sverm03
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this is actually true to some levels.. gaane bajne vali road ki koi japan ki video thi usko bharke log keh rhe they wow kitni bdhiyah hai.. jaise hi yaha bani to aise react kr rhe hai jaise worst possible chiz hai.. we really want to glaze japan China and USA .. but it doesnt mean that they are not better than us right now..

这在某种程度上确实是真的……以前看到日本那种“会唱歌的公路”视频，大家都惊叹“哇太棒了”，结果一旦这种东西在印度修起来了，大家又表现得好像它是世界上最烂的东西一样。虽然我们确实有点过度崇拜日本中国美国，但这并不代表他们现在不比我们强。

Radiant_Historian854
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strategic if electric grid fails by boombing on plants, only diesel engine can run ,

这其实是一种战略考虑：万一发电厂被炸导致电网瘫痪，只有柴油机车能跑。

Correct-Plenty2421
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We still have diesel engines for this very purpose. Besides, with our formidable defense and the decentralization of power plants means we have a lot of them as backup.

正是出于这个原因，我们才保留了柴油机车。此外，凭借强大的防御体系和分布式电厂，我们有很多备用电力。

Kschitiz23x3
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Railway grid is highly distributed and has redundancy. Booming few plants will simply add more load on remaining plants.
Supply of imported diesel seems a bigger issue right now

铁路电网是高度分布式且有冗余的。炸掉几个电厂只会增加其余电厂的负荷。目前看来，进口柴油的供应反而是一个更大的隐患。

MJF_fan
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Switzerland is tiny compared to India so we're kinda number one in this department. Looking at the sheer size of our land, it's a huge huge achievement.

和印度相比，瑞士太小了，所以在电气化这个领域我们其实算得上是第一。考虑到我们国土的广阔，这绝对是一项极其伟大的成就。

abhishekwolverine6
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well India is also quite small when compared to China in that regard.

照这么说，在这方面印度和中国比起来也显得挺小的。

Plebbyyyy
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Well by that logic China's total **electrified** Rail length is a higher number than our *total* railway track length so..
??

按这个逻辑，中国光是**电气化**铁路的总里程，就比我们**所有的**铁路里程还要长……所以你想表达什么？？

Exact_Package_7264
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oh you're pakistani, now i understand why you are trying to make modi look bad.

噢，原来你是巴基斯坦人，现在我明白你为什么总是想给莫迪政府泼脏水了。

Kaam4
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why tf they in our subs. no indian goes in paki subs. no indian wants to go to paxtan. but these beaches cant stay within their borders
tag mod and get him banned

他们怎么老往我们的版块跑？没哪个印度人会去巴基斯坦版块，也没人想去那个地方。但这些家伙就是不安分。艾特管理员把这人封了。

MJF_fan
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It's so fkin annoying fr, literally apne kaam me naak ghusane wale padosi

真他妈烦人，活脱脱一群爱管闲事的邻居。

Active-Crow6708
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There are so many Indians in Pak subs. It's always Vice Versa

巴基斯坦版块里印度人也多得是，彼此彼此。

Thick-Magician-5697
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Bro getting slimed in his own country's subreddit, what an embarrassment lol.

哥们儿在自己国家的版块里被群起而攻之，真是太尴尬了，哈哈。

Exact_Package_7264
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China is 3 times our size, you clown. of course they'll be longer. it doesn't change the fact that we've electrified a higher percentage than they have.

中国面积是我们的三倍，你个小丑。他们的里程当然更长，但这并不能改变我们的电气化比例比他们更高的事实。

Few_Bet_8952
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India is also many times bigger than Switzerland though and it doesn't change the fact that they have a higher electrification % right? Also 94% of China lives on less than 43% of the country so they chose to keep the long freight routes in the west diesel to save costs. Compare that to India we have population distributed all over the country and I'd definitely rather get HSR than get some remote freight train line electrified.
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所以虽然印度比瑞士大很多倍，但这并没有改变瑞士电气化百分比更高这一事实，对吧？此外，中国 94% 的人口居住在不足 43% 的国土上，因此他们选择在西部漫长的货运线路上维持柴油动力以节省成本。反观印度，我们的人口分布更均匀。比起给偏远的货运线搞电气化，我绝对更倾向于修建高铁。

StrawberryExact1830
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its not possible to do 100% electrification. the swiss trains are way shorter than us and dont need the torque like indian goods and passenger trains. also, China is way larger than india ratiowise, when compared to the scaled increase of switzerland to india

100% 电气化是不现实的。瑞士的火车比我们的短得多，不需要像印度客货运列车那样大的扭矩。此外，如果看比例增幅，中国相对于印度的规模跨度，远大于印度相对于瑞士的跨度。

MJF_fan
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Lemme glaze my country in peace besides China is fkin huge anyways

让我安安静静地为自己的国家自豪一会儿吧，反正中国大得离谱也是事实。

Electronic-City4960
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Post this in international subs.

把这个发到国际版块去。

PayGroundbreaking121
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As usual , they'll mock it and use racial slurs.

像往常一样，他们会疯狂嘲讽并用种族歧视的词汇攻击我们。

TheEnlightenedPanda
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Maybe we should stop trying to get white validation

也许我们该停止去寻求白人的认可了。

ZaimonXd
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Exactly

确实。

Hawthorn_Eor
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nah we'll be downvoted to the depths of hell

别，发过去肯定会被点踩到地狱深处。

CollectionLive7896
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r/trains will be fine. I have next to no racism there when posted general stuff (like Vande bharat, freight trains and all)

发到 r/trains 版块应该没事。我以前在那儿发过一些日常基建（像致敬印度号、货运火车等），没遇到什么种族歧视。

Steve_Rogers909
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Yeah lol, they're mostly just chill guys who like trains.

是的，哈哈，那里大多都是喜欢火车的佛系老哥。

hackerman-69
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The thing is switzerland's electricity comes from 60% hydro and 30% nuclear (which is what's expected for a clean source of energy) and rest from renewable ones and other sources. India on the other hand produces electricity from coal for about 80% of it's usage.
Although the electrification of trains is a good thing, at the end the carbon footprint is more or less the same.

问题的核心在于，瑞士 60% 的电力来自水电，30% 来自核电（这是理想的清洁能源结构）。而印度的电力约 80% 依然靠燃煤。
虽然列车电气化是好事，但从长远来看，目前碳足迹其实并没有减少多少。

Hawthorn_Eor
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hopefully we can eventually switch to nuclear as well

希望我们最终也能转向核能。

zqwz
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**Indian Railways aim to become 100% carbon neutral in 5 years.**
They already have 800MW of solar power and 100MW Wind. They will be purchasing power from solar powerplants to the tune of 3GW soon. plans for 500MW battery storage is underway to use this power at night and there is request for 3GW dedicated Nuclear reactors for railways. Hydrogen train prototype has already successfuly worked to replace the remaining diseal locomotives.
One step at a time.

**印度铁路的目标是在 5 年内实现 100% 碳中和。**
目前已拥有 800 兆瓦太阳能和 100 兆瓦风能，并计划近期增购 3 吉瓦太阳能。此外，500 兆瓦的储能电池项目正在筹备中以供夜间供电，并已申请建设 3 吉瓦的铁路专用核反应堆。氢动力列车原型也已成功运行，旨在取代剩余的柴油机车。
饭要一口一口吃。

harhs
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we have now more then 50% of installed capacity from renewable source like wind and solar getting operational slowly currently 40% ,gov continues to create more solar and wind farms,
Compared to india Switzerland have have very small power genration and consumption so I am not sure if it will be right to compare in %, when the difference is like 25 gw to 500gw(india)
india is on right track hoping to biger reduction in coal usage in india
https://iced.niti.gov.in/

我们现在超过 50% 的装机容量来自可再生能源，虽然风能和太阳能的并网进度较慢（目前约为 40%），但政府一直在建设更多的电场。
与印度相比，瑞士的发电量和消耗量微乎其微。当两者的装机容量规模差异高达 25 吉瓦 vs 500 吉瓦时，我不确定单纯比较百分比是否合适。印度目前方向正确，有望大幅削减煤炭使用。

https://iced.niti.gov.in/
Mynameisboring_
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Random Swiss person who landed here, not having coal (or diesel for that matter) was the main reason we completely electrified our system. We imported the vast majority of it from Germany so electrification sort of became a matter of national security. During the world wars, there was a severe lack of coal and it was also seen as important that the system wasn't reliant on Germany so it wouldn't be possible for them to intentionally make the Swiss train system collapse just by cutting off the coal supply entirely (making a military invasion much easier). As such we started electrifying lines in order of strategic military importance and in WWII two conventional steam locomotives were actually converted into electric steam locomotives due to both a lack of coal as well as a lack of electric locomotives haha
https://preview.redd.it/eb1n3o1fu7vg1.png?width=991&format=png&auto=webp&s=1677dbaf422caa8f6ac1043ed13a67a97908993f

一个路过的瑞士人：我们之所以实现全面电气化，正是因为我们既没煤也没油。过去我们大部分能源依赖德国进口，所以电气化成了一个国家安全问题。在两次世界大战期间煤炭极度匮乏，摆脱对德国能源的依赖至关重要，否则他们只要断供就能瘫痪瑞士铁路网（从而让军事入侵变容易）。因此，我们按军事战略重要性顺序推动电气化。二战期间，由于缺煤也缺电力机车，我们甚至把两台蒸汽机车改装成了电加热蒸汽机车，哈哈。

Lumiaman88
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Yes, but being reliant on Diesel in times of Oil supply shocks can wreak havoc on thr country's transport lifeline.
Hence being 100% electric is the best thing.

没错，一旦遭遇石油供应冲击，过度依赖柴油会瘫痪国家的交通命脉。因此，100% 电气化是最佳选择。

Disastrous-Cow-2523
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Dont speak facts bruh

兄弟，别在这儿拿事实说话，没人听的。

alphaminur
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“The thing is” “Actually”, people in India have demeaning someone they know in their veins. Pathetic thinking.

满嘴“问题的关键是”、“事实上”，印度人骨子里就爱贬低身边熟悉的人，这种思维方式真可悲。

ujtheghost
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India could do wonders with nuclear but it's a very big task for our administrations.
>at the end the carbon footprint is more or less the same.
Although, the carbon footprint from power plants and electric trains is *significantly* lower than Diesel/Coal engine trains.

印度如果发展核能将会有奇迹，但这对于我们的政府来说是个巨大的挑战。
至于“碳足迹差不多”的说法——实际上，发电厂驱动的电力机车的碳足迹还是要比柴油或燃煤机车“显著”降低的。

Jumpy_Leadership1650
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currently 99.6 tho

事实上目前已经达到 99.6% 了。

dheerajravi92
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This graphic is funny - they used different colours of the Dutch RIVM rolling stock, while the Netherlands is not even mentioned in the graphic.

这张图表挺搞笑的——他们用了荷兰 RIVM 列车的不同配色方案作为配图，结果图表里压根儿没提荷兰。

Constant-Comment-99
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Uk just 39%, unbelievable!

英国竟然只有 39%，简直不敢相信！

abhayv69
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US where?

美国在哪儿？

Safe-Complaint8893
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They love Oil for a reason

他们钟情石油是有原因的。

Psychological_Top115
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Im guessing it's because they barely have any passenger trains(excluding intercity metros), most of them are cargo ones and privately owned so to them I think it won't make sense to electrify rails or deploy faster trains unless it increases their profits which im not sure if it will

我猜是因为他们几乎没啥客运列车（除了城市地铁），大部分铁路都是私营的货运线。对他们来说，除非能增加利润，否则搞电气化或提速根本没意义，而我不确定这是否能挣钱。

PatientOne3053
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Less than 20%

美国不到 20%。

facw00
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Much lower than 20%, it's more like 1%. The US used to have much more electrified track, but freight railroads moved from electric to diesel in many places.

远低于 20%，实际更接近 1%。美国以前的电气化里程其实更多，但许多货运线路后来从电力改回了柴油。

Newvil450
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The funniest thing is that they have one of the worst railways.
Amtrack is literal garbage.

最搞的是，他们的铁路系统是世界上最烂的之一。Amtrak 简直就是垃圾。

Marshall2439
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US is too busy maintaining giant parking lots and highways instead of investing in public transportation. Obviously they don't fucking care about their trains as long as freight companies pay them well enough

美国忙着维护那些巨大的停车场和高速公路，根本没兴趣投资公共交通。显然，只要货运公司给够钱，他们他妈的根本不在乎铁路建设。

Useful_Paint_9522
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US have largest rail network.
US have largest air traffic.

但美国拥有全球最大的铁路网络，以及全球最大的航空运量。

Lucifer1007
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US has one the largest carbon footprint that they don't want to decrease

美国是全球碳足迹最大的国家之一，而且他们压根儿不想减排。

DrawingDramatic1641
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largest?
even after air traffic they had biggest rail
China has highest high speed rail network
China almost 100k
sudan is better and faster trains
usa 0 high speed
China is gonna outperform usa soon
india and China will rise again

最大？即便抛开航空不谈，他们的铁路网确实庞大，但中国拥有世界上最发达的高铁网络，里程近 10 万公里。甚至苏丹的火车都比美国好、比美国快。美国的高铁数量是 0。中国很快就会全面超越美国，印度和中国将再次崛起。

Useful_Paint_9522
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US have highest train network then what is there to offend?
US is 7 times GDP economy than India, even though US population is 1/Rd of China
US is 1.5 times GDP economy than China, even though US population is 1/3 Rd of China.
Reddit is from US.
Alphabet, Meta, Open AI, Apple, Anthropic, Amzon, Microsoft
Intel, AMD, Nvidia
Yes China will overtake US in this decade or next.
Not sure about India, because we spent 205000 crore on 100 smart cities for a decade and then close that project, no city is smart after 10 min heavy rain, smart City exposed, AQI, Namami Gange and what not.
Moral of the story - India has long way to go.
Fun fact - almost all India's network, most of the network is built by Britishers in 1947 it was 55000 km
After multiple government including current one not even doubled it.

美国铁路里程确实世界第一，这有什么好冒犯的？美国的 GDP 是印度的 7 倍，且人口只有中国的 1/3，但 GDP 是中国的 1.5 倍。Reddit 本身就是美国的，更不用说 Alphabet、Meta、Apple、亚马逊这些巨头。虽然中国可能在未来一二十年赶超美国，但印度的情况不好说。
我们花了 2 万亿卢比搞“智慧城市”，结果一场 10 分钟的大雨就让它们原形毕露。寓意很简单：印度还有很长的路要走。顺便说个冷知识：印度大部分铁路网是英国殖民时期留下的，1947 年就有 5.5 万公里了，在那之后这么多届政府加起来也没让它翻个番。

Marshall2439
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what does any of that have to do with the fact that railways in United States are utter piece of dogshit partly because of their urban infrastructure being car dependant and partly because their railways are owned by freight companies

但这跟你列举的一大堆有什么关系？美国铁路系统烂透了（像坨狗屎）是事实，部分原因是基建过度依赖汽车，部分原因是铁路线路控制在货运公司手里。

Useful_Paint_9522
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"Utter piece of dogshit" really? You are just offended like utter piece of nonsense.
First class AC toilets have gu in Indian train.
We live in a country where 95% population can not afford ac train ticket. India is not even eligible to compare US in terms of infrastructure etc.
Even being US is a country with 1/4 th population that of the India have far better infrastructure.

“烂透了”？我看你只是被事实扎心了。在印度火车的头等舱厕所里都能看到排泄物。我们生活在一个 95% 的人连空调车票都买不起的国家，印度甚至都没资格在基建方面去和美国比较。即便美国人口只有印度的 1/4，人家的基建也比我们好得多。

Marshall2439
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yeah blud i would hardly call mega parking lots and highways a better infrastructure especially when they're spamed everywhere making cities car dependant are you like that ignorant or what? Comparing me indian infra to usa is like comparing trash to garbage

得了吧哥们儿，我可不觉得巨大的停车场和高速公路算什么“好基建”，特别是它们到处都是，逼得人们不得不开车。你是不是太无知了？拿印度基建去比美国基建，简直就是拿垃圾比废品。

Marshall2439
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yeah and despite all of that americans will defend their car dependancy and argue "high speed rail is stupid and impractical just use flights bro" like come on

是啊，尽管如此，美国人还是会拼命维护他们的汽车依赖，辩称什么“高铁既愚蠢又不切实际，坐飞机不香吗”。真是无语。

Radiant_Historian854
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Lots of Paisaaa Paisaaa in infra projects...so they will happy do it!!

基建项目里油水多得很，他们当然乐意去干了！

BigBrotato
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this is like the opposite of r/dataisbeautiful.
a good visualisation would have numbers for total railway network length, and electrified railway network length too

这张图简直是数据可视化的反面教材。一份好的图表应该同时列出铁路总里程和电气化里程。

Razen04
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I am hearing 99% for so long, where is that 1% still left, let us finish it quickly, why are they edging?

“99%”这说法我都听腻了，剩下那 1% 到底在哪儿？赶紧干完得了，磨磨唧唧干嘛呢？

Disastrous-Cow-2523
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Remember
India has 70k km of railway lines.
China has 1.5l km , US has 2.2l km.
Although its a nice thing, what we need is using renewable energy, increase average speeds from 50-60kpmh for 80% of the Indian trains its around this.

记住：印度只有 7 万公里铁路，中国有 15 万，美国有 22 万。虽然电气化是好事，但我们更需要使用可再生能源，并将 80% 依然在 50-60 公里时速徘徊的火车速度提上来。

Easy_Imagination_664
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Well done!! Congratulations. Now can we get a data for the same country’s railway accidents per year and how many people lose their lives in those!!

干得漂亮，恭喜。现在能不能给份数据，让我们看看这个国家每年有多少铁路事故，以及死了多少人！！

Kitchen_Handle_9927
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Wait till you hear about how we generate our electricity

等你知道我们的电是怎么发出来的之后再感叹吧。

ballebaj
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Train electrification or track electrification? Stick with one metric

到底是列车电气化还是轨道电气化？能不能统一一下统计口径？

Technical-View-9180
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Thank god, a good stat where India is leading

谢天谢地，总算有一项统计数据是印度领先的了。

Sharp-Hornet-9806
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The quality of our trains aren't so good still

我们的火车质量依然不敢恭维。

Electrical_Tomato_73
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So, China, Spain, Japan, France all have high-speed (300+ km/h) trains crisscrossing the country, encouraging people to take the train rather than fly for distances up to 1000km. If we had such trains we could do Chennai-Bangalore in a bit over an hour.
But hey, we're more electrified than them.

中、西、日、法这些国家都有纵横全国的时速 300+ 公里的高铁，鼓励人们在 1000 公里以内的出行选择火车而非飞机。如果我们有这种车，金奈到班加罗尔只要一小时出头。但是，嘿，咱们的电气化比例比他们高哦。

Blossom_aashi
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Will the remaining 0.8 percent ever be electrified? Or is it not worth it? Im assuming the sections not electrified must ghats and difficult terrain eyc

剩下那 0.8% 还会搞电气化吗？还是说根本不划算？我猜那些没搞的应该是高止山脉这种地形复杂的地区。

PresentPlenty6811
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What abt on time.

那准点率呢？

AlUcard_POD
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Given how many trains we run, this is crazy impressive!

考虑到我们要运行这么多列车，这成就真的相当惊人！

0xcrypto
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I don't think most countries care about the "electrification" of trains anymore. They are directly moving towards maglev and India is still decades behind. China has not only built its own bullet trains, it also gave bullet trains to smaller countries.

我觉得大多数国家已经不在乎什么“电气化”了，人家都在直接往磁悬浮发展，而印度还落后几十年。中国不仅造了自己的动车组，还出口到了许多小国。

lone_warrior_ind
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Japan 64% is highly doubt on that, reason i stayed here & travel all length of this country, not 100 but somewhat closer to that

我很怀疑日本只有 64% 这个数据。我住在日本且去过很多地方，感觉即便不到 100%，也应该非常接近了。

Barely_Fit
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If only our public could make efforts to keep our railways clean and maintained

要是我们的国民能努力爱护铁路环境、维持卫生就好了。

Cautious-Aide-175
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India is like a student which have lots of potential but he doesn't utilise it sadly

印度就像一个极具潜力的学生，可惜的是，他并没能发挥出应有的水平。

Crafty_Industry6112
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Now show us the punctuality, the booking lottery, and the 'quality' of general and sleeper coaches. 100% wires don't matter if the train is 4 hours late

再让我们看看准点率、抢票难度以及普通厢和卧铺厢的“质量”吧。如果火车晚点 4 小时，电线架得再满也白搭。

Individual_Artist_74
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Ikr, okay electrification is a good achievement, but when the quality of trains is so bad and it's so difficult for our people to even book a normal ticket, what benefit is it ultimately providing? It's like saying ohh India's nominal GDP is larger than Spain, but look at the per capita bro

我也觉得。电气化确实是个成就，但如果火车质量差得要命，老百姓连张票都难买到，那这玩意儿最终到底造福了谁？这就像是在吹嘘印度的名义 GDP 超过了西班牙，却绝口不提人均数据一样。

Ok_Antelope_1953
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quality isn't just bad, it's actually getting worse with the number of general coaches being reduced and freeloaders in reserved coaches exploding. horrible sanitation only getting worse, no improvement in average running speed, no improvement in punctuality, ticket prices seeing sharp increases.

质量不只是差，甚至在变烂：普通车厢在减少，而逃票占座的却在激增。卫生条件越来越恶劣，速度和准点率毫无长进，票价倒是一直在飙升。

sverm03
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ha aur ro le.. yhi jgha mili punctuality ka rona rone ke liye.. apni hi tarakki pachti nhi hai zara si

呵，接着哭吧。这儿是专门给你抱怨准点率的地方吗？简直是见不得自己国家有一点点进步。

drittehma
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This is definitely something to be proud of, but I’ll take the comparison with other countries with a pinch of salt.
Electrification makes sense when there’s enough traffic on that line. Wouldn’t make sense to electrify a line on which 1 train runs per day.
Japan in all likelihood isn’t “stuck at 64%”. They chose not to electrify beyond 64% because it doesn’t make financial sense.

这确实值得骄傲，但我觉得跟别国的比较要持保留态度。只有线路流量足够大时，电气化才有意义；如果一天只有一趟车，那搞电气化纯属浪费钱。日本极大概率不是“停滞”在 64%，而是他们主动选择不继续推进，因为在经济上不划算。

Sorry_Interview_4671
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China has immense traffic thouh

可中国的客流量巨大也是事实啊。

drittehma
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At an aggregate level, China does have immense traffic. But how much traffic do they have on the lines which haven't been electrified? Most likely, minimal.

总体来看中国流量确实大，但在那些尚未电气化的线路上，车流量可能非常小。

Sorry_Interview_4671
Likes: 1
any sources for this ?

这说法有根据吗？

opposite__baker
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I am pretty sure the rail line in Tibet is not electrified. You can also research.

我很肯定西藏的铁路线没有电气化，你可以去查证。

lonerblues
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Definitely great however the electricity is still generated through coal so long way to go

确实很棒，但电依然是靠烧煤发的，所以路还长着呢。

Masterji_34
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Indian locomotives are completely electric, do not have a coal generator on board.

印度的机车是全电动的，车上并没有自带燃煤发电机。

no-regrets-approach
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The gensets you are referring to are not for traction. Fully AC trains use generator cars (EOG - End on Generation) to provide reliable power for air conditioning, lighting, and pantry services, independent of the locomotive's traction power.

你说的发电机组不是用来牵引火车的。全空调列车使用发电车（EOG）来独立为空调、照明和餐饮服务提供电力，这和机车的牵引力是分开的。

Lucifer1007
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That is also now used only in case of emergency. Normally all the LHB trains get their power from HOG (Head on generation) equipment fitted in WAP 7 locos

而且现在发电车大多只在紧急情况下使用。通常 LHB 列车都是直接通过 WAP 7 机车上的 HOG 系统获取电力。