网友讨论：美国救援队在搜寻被击落的F-15E飞行员时，遭敌方火力袭击，A-10坠毁，救援直升机被击中，有人受伤

@AtoZ-369z
Hollywood next movie " saving beautiful pilot in Iran "

好莱坞的下一部电影是：《拯救在伊朗的美丽飞行员》。

@johnmaclean8136
“Come closer’, says Iran.

伊朗说：“再靠近一点”

@flodareltih9825
Don’t worry. It’s just a rock.

别担心，它只是一块石头。

@cristairf22
F-15 laundry room got fire

F-15的 洗衣房着火了

@pauloantunes8372
Crashed=shot down

坠毁 = 被击落

@vladimirratputin
F-15 hit by a Stone Age weapon?

F-15 被石器时代的武器击中了？

@atharva587
It might be a sling shot from Stone Age Era

可能是石器时代的弹弓。

@gildarocha
Being an American soldier is the dumbest job in the world right now. American heroes and their families are being fooled so hard, it's sickening.

在现在，去当美国士兵，是世界上最愚蠢的工作。
美国的英雄们和他们的家人被愚弄得如此彻底，真是令人作呕。

@happyjohn354
More like if you shoot at an enemy for a long enough time you will eventually score a hit through statistical probability. Over 12,000 successful bombing missions and what? only 3 planes shot down so far and one of them is an airfrx that made its first flight in 1972 which was 54 years ago. I guess when the fighting is this one sided you have to really cling to whatever small victory you can get.

只要你对着敌人射击的时间足够长，最终凭借统计概率就能击中目标。
超过12000次成功的轰炸任务，结果呢？
至今只击落了3架飞机，其中一架还是54年前（1972年）首飞的飞机。
我想，当战斗如此一边倒时，你只能紧紧抓住任何一点小小的胜利。

@Ǿœ0œǾ
Hardest part of a two week war is the first 5 years.

一场为期两周的战争，最艰难的部分是最初的五年。

@muhammadrifai-od2rg
What does it mean ?

什么意思？

@terencefouda9533
​ @muhammadrifai-od2rg That the conflict will be extended far beyond what the US and Israel expected.

这场冲突的持续时间将远远超出美国和以色列的预期。

@koocoocroc1235
Actually no, the timeline of the war was 4-8 weeks, it is on schedule

实际上并非如此，战争的时间表是4-8周，一切都在按计划进行。

@terencefouda9533
​ @koocoocroc1235 But wasn't it supposed to be finished much sooner that? The expected duration keeps getting stretched.

但是，难道不应该早就完工了吗？预计的工期一再延长。

@koocoocroc1235
@terencefouda9533 No, on the first day of the war, trump stated (this is paraphrased): "The duration of the operation is planned to be 6-8 weeks", I believe it was in his first speech he made on it or one of the latter ones after. The operation is going on schedule and on time

不，在战争的第一天，特朗普就说过（以下为意译）：“行动计划将持续6-8周。”
我相信，在他第一次对此事发表讲话的时候，或者后面的某次讲话中，有说过这话。
行动正在按计划进行，并且按时完成。

@LutherusPXCs
@koocoocroc1235 This will go on waaaay longer than 8 weeks. Air Power alone cannot defeat Iran, the USA nor its allies doesn't have the political will to muster an invasion force to topple the IRGC. Iran could win this war strategically baring no rebellion within its boarders or full scale invasion.

这场战争的持续时间将远远超过八周。
单凭空中力量无法击败伊朗，美国及其盟友也没有足够的政治意愿集结入侵力量来推翻伊朗伊斯兰革命卫队。
只要伊朗境内不发生叛乱或遭到全面入侵，伊朗就能在战略上赢得这场战争。

@koocoocroc1235
@LutherusPXCs Yeah i doubt it will go on longer than 8 weeks, at a absolute MAxiMUM 10 weeks. This isn't like iraq or afghanistan, the US is fighting a very limited war, also considering the people of iran almost toppled the government by themselves shows that this war could end any day now. It's just a waiting game now

是的，我怀疑这场战争不会超过八周，最最最最多十周。
这跟伊拉克或阿富汗战争不一样，美国打的是一场规模非常有限的战争。
而且考虑到伊朗人民几乎凭借自身力量就可以推翻政府，这场战争随时都可能结束。
现在只是一场等待的游戏。

@LutherusPXCs
@koocoocroc1235 Having the regime successfully defend against the US and Israel will keep them in power way longer than they should. The US needs a ground incursion into separatist territories within Iran for any chance of success, if not the war is lost.

如果伊朗政权能够成功抵御美国和以色列的进攻，它能维持统治的时间，将远超其应有的期限。
美国要想取得任何胜利，就必须对伊朗境内的分离主义控制区发动地面入侵，否则这场战争必败无疑。

@koocoocroc1235
@LutherusPXCs Again, considering the regime almost collapsed early this year, it's not hard to assume that the iranians don't have many government officials left. It's a game of time

再说一次，考虑到伊朗政权今年年初就几乎垮台，不难推断伊朗政府官员已经所剩无几了。
这是一场时间游戏。

@LutherusPXCs
@koocoocroc1235 A government that governs 90 million, mostly highly educated people will be hard to uproot. As I said Trump is in a dilemma, its either Total war land invasion with rebellious Iranian factions or strategic defeat.

一个统治着9000万人口（其中大部分受过高等教育）的政府很难被推翻。
正如我所说，特朗普陷入了两难境地：要么发动与伊朗叛军的全面地面战争，要么接受战略上的失败。

@MIka-zg6rd
To much winning, i cant take it anymore

赢得太多了，我受不了了

@intekhabquadri1746
Even a rescuer needs rescue

即使是救援者，也需要救援。

@speedykobac
"No quarter, no mercy" said Hegseth. Is that to apply on US Pilots too?

“毫不留情，绝不手软” ，赫格塞思（美国国防部长）说道。
这句话也适用于美国飞行员吗？

@patriotcountry4716
Yeah, it's reported israeli forces on the ground hunting him

是的，据报道以色列地面部队正在搜捕他。

@danturner7060
This is the first time I’ve ever heard of an A-10 getting shot down.

这是我第一次听说A-10被击落。

@roxximusik8958
I suspect it was 'loitering' at low levels in a suppression role, and very much in harm's way from small arms fire or 'man-pad' type missiles.

我怀疑，它当时正在低空“徘徊”，执行压制任务，很容易受到小型武器射击或“便携式防空导弹”的攻击。

@SurfinG8or
@roxximusik8958 Yes, it's good to have someone with some common sense in the comments.

是的，评论区里有位有常识的人是件好事。

@MrRjizz
@roxximusik8958 Yeah it was operating at quite low altitude, it has hit by a IR missile the same as the F15 or at least the footage the iranians released seems to indicate it

是的，它当时飞行高度很低，像是被红外导弹击中了，就像F-15战斗机被击中那样，或者至少伊朗方面公布的视频显示确实如此。

@joedoe6444
there was a few of then shot down by Iraq in Desert Storm and quit a few that limped back to their base with heavy damage.

在沙漠风暴行动中，有几架飞机被伊拉克击落，还有几架飞机受损严重，勉强返回基地。

@上帝的小熊猫
I am from China. When I was four years old, the news on TV reported that the United States was at war; now I am 42, and Americans are still fighting. I have a specific question I’d like to ask my American friends: Do Americans really love fighting wars that much?

我来自中国。我四岁的时候，电视新闻报道美国正在打仗；现在我42岁了，美国人还在打仗。我有一个问题想问问我的美国朋友：美国人真的那么热爱战争吗？

@Awesome-Will-01
​ @上帝的小熊猫 Yes they do, given all the chaos they are responsible for on every continents. But also in their own streets, thanks to their beloved 2nd amendment.

是的，他们的确如此，他们需要为所有大陆的混乱负责。
但是，他们在自己的街道上也是这样做的，这多亏了他们奉为圭臬的第二修正案。

@marioarguello6989
​ @Awesome-Will-01 That's one profoundly stupid and ignorant statement

楼上，你这番话真是愚蠢至极，无知至极。

@Awesome-Will-01
​ @marioarguello6989 I see I've hurt your feelings lol. Whatever! But your vulgarity and insults won't change how the rest of the world perceives the USA and its atrocities. So you provide arguments to contradict my point of view and create a constructive debate, or you remain silent to avoid showing you're brainwashed.

看来我伤到你的心了，哈哈。
算了！
但你的粗俗言语和侮辱并不能改变世界其他国家对美国及其暴行的看法。
所以，要么你拿出论据反驳我的观点，展开建设性的辩论，要么就保持沉默，以免暴露你已被洗脑。

@RS33381
@上帝的小熊猫 it literally happening against our will. America has been at war my whole life and everyone around me including myself can’t figure out when it will end. I’m a few years younger than you btw

这些事情的发生，完全违背了我们的意愿。
在我的有生之年，美国一直处于战争状态，包括我自己在内的所有人，都不知道战争何时才能结束。
顺便说一句，我比你小几岁。
 

@上帝的小熊猫
@RS33381 I know that most Americans don't actually like war, after all, American soldiers also have parents, wives, and children—which is why Americans often end up taking the blame for the US government. Sometimes no one can stop the US government, after all, they hold the most powerful authority in the world!

我知道大多数美国人其实并不喜欢战争，毕竟，美国士兵也有父母、妻子和孩子——这就是为什么美国人常常最终要为美国政府承担后果。
有时候，没有人能阻止美国政府，毕竟，他们拥有世界上最强大的权力！

@riz4584
New Movie = Mission rescue

新电影 = 救援任务

@DaudReece
Stone age equipment is so good, David's slingshot crashed those planes lol

石器时代的装备真厉害，大卫的弹弓居然把那些飞机都打翻了，哈哈

@cesarbolet2181
Doesn't sound like a defeated enemy to me.

在我看来，这听起来不像是一个战败的敌人。

@hyvalgilley8102
Your stupid you know they have rocket launchers that you can launch from your shoulder all you have to do is just point in pull the trigger

你真蠢，你要知道，他们有火箭发射器，可以从肩膀上发射，你只需要瞄准然后扣动扳机就行了。

@ShahidKhanB4
​ @hyvalgilley8102 what do stone age people know about rockets

石器时代的人们对火箭了解多少？

@hyvalgilley8102
@Sha@Sha @ShahidKhanB4 They said bomb them back into the Stone Age not turn them into Stone Age people lol meaning take out all there utilities like electric and water

他们说要把他们炸回石器时代，而不是把他们变成石器时代的人，哈哈，意思是切断他们所有的水、电等公共设施。

@OnyedikaGabriel-un3gm
​ @hyvalgilley8102 so it's no longer about freeing Iranians but now bombing them to stone stone age? Expected though seeing as 100 plus girls where killed in the first day

所以，现在不是要解放伊朗人，而是要把他们炸回石器时代了？考虑到第一天就有100多名女孩丧生，这样的事也算是在意料之中了。

@FlavioCaramdoro
Did they trow a stone at the plane?

他们向飞机扔石头了吗？

@AegirWcom
Heaps of shoulder mounted launchers too. To have destroyed most of their capabilities and to lose a couple of planes is straight up amazing

他们有大量的肩扛式发射器。我们摧毁了他们大部分的作战能力，我们只损失了几架飞机，这简直太惊人了。

@joeymanny
@AegirWcom lol keep on reaching, iran are not stupid enough to exposed their air defense. Keep on believeing to the clown orange man lies and his bozo sec hegseth who jhas no experience on this

哈哈，继续胡说八道吧，伊朗没那么蠢，不会暴露他们的防空系统。继续相信那个橙色小丑的谎言，还有他那个毫无经验的笨蛋国务卿赫格塞思吧。

@AegirWcom
@joeymanny so they wouldn’t ’’expose’’ their air defence while US and Israeli planes fly around day and night. Not much point having an air defence then no? How many missions have been flown, something like 3000 or more. Great hidden air defence!

所以，当美国的飞机昼夜在他们的地盘盘旋的时候，他们考虑的是不能“暴露”自己的防空系统。
那防空系统还有什么用？
已经执行了多少次任务？大概3000次甚至更多。
真是个绝妙的隐蔽防空系统！

@joeymanny
​ @AegirWcom as of today iran shutdown f15 and A10 and fired 2 apache of US, iran os mot iraq or afghanistan, if US continue this stupidity there will be more shutdowns coming

截至今日，伊朗废掉了F-15和A-10战机，并击落了两架美国阿帕奇直升机。
伊朗并非是伊拉克或阿富汗那样的敌人。
如果美国继续这种愚蠢的行为，未来还会有更多战机被废掉。

@AegirWcom
@joeymanny wow!

哇喔！

@musabah-j2e
I think it is friendly fire

我认为这是友军误伤的。

@Evemeister12
So the rescuers need rescuing now

所以救援人员现在也需要救援了。

@JackRoyal82
A10 took enemy fire? never heard that before

A-10遭到敌方火力攻击？
我以前从未听说过这种事情。

@MRSomethin1
In a shock twist Iran readies its new weapon, the Light Area Missile Bomb or LAMB which they have called "Kebab"

令人震惊的是，伊朗准备推出其新型武器——轻型区域导弹炸弹（LAMB），他们称之为“烤肉串”。

@ramayasly4584
Who is your enemy? The enemy is your self.

你的敌人是谁？你的敌人就是你自己。

@DurgaprasadTiwari-f4i
God bless everyone and brings peace to all over the world

愿上帝保佑所有人，并为全世界带来和平。

@Solorider-sjt
The Iranians would be pleased to meet an American fighter pilot

伊朗人很乐意与美国战斗机飞行员会面。

@ZeeVee-t8g
If you Watch the 1st top gun movie, where( goose) ejects, but fails , you get an idea how dangerous ejection is, with a pilot and weopons officer in 2nd seat. Skill.

如果你看过第一部《壮志凌云》，里面“鹅”弹射失败的情节，你就会明白弹射有多危险，尤其是在有一个飞行员和一个坐在副驾驶座的武器官的情况下。这需要高超的技巧。

@vladimirratputin
Faux News is reporting it was a laundry fire that caused pilot and copilot to eject

福克斯新闻报道称，导致飞行员和副驾驶弹射的原因是洗衣房起火。

@thejoe9065
So the speculations about boots on the ground were real?!

所以之前关于地面部队部署的猜测是真的？！

@k21j75
A few beautiful American fighter planes were shot down by stone age wepons of Iran

几架漂亮的美国战斗机被伊朗的石器时代武器击落了。

@Iniathulla
Apparently it is rumored that David's stone sling is quite effective against Golliath. However only to be rivaled by washing machine chips and shovels.

据说大卫的投石索用来对付歌利亚非常有效，但恐怕只有洗衣机碎片和铲子能与之匹敌了。

@edwardvanberckel4736
What is one helicopter in a forever war, wait till the goundattack starts...

在永无休止的战争中，一架直升机又算得了什么？等着瞧地面进攻开始吧……

@Hdhfhhdh
USA doesn’t stand a chance against the Stone Age

美国对上石器时代的对手都毫无机会啊。

@MarsWrestlingKingdom
If you have played game or watched anime you would know...a sniper shoots his enemy and while others are going to rescue they all gets shot down...

如果你玩过游戏或看过动漫，你就会知道……狙击手射击了敌人，其他人前去营救，却全部被击毙……

@POSTBYALPHABET
I thought Trump said Iran air defences have all been obliterated?

我记得特朗普说过伊朗的防空系统已经被全部摧毁了？

@paulharper6464
He did. But Trump has said a lot of dumb things about this war. Even so, around 20,000 sorties for the loss of a couple of aircraft is pretty remakable.

他是说过。但特朗普在这场战争中说过很多蠢话。但即便如此，2万次的攻击才损失几架飞机，这仍然相当了不起。

@youtuberr203
Amazing how single rocks can take down multi million dollar aircraft. Stone Age weapons are strong lol

真不可思议，一块石头就能击落价值数百万美元的飞机。石器时代的武器威力真大，哈哈。

@KennethMadukaji
Thank God for the rescued pilot I pray the second one will also be rescued

感谢上帝，飞行员获救了。我祈祷第二名飞行员也能获救。

@VREmirate
You gonna fly helicopters over Iran, you're asking for trouble..

你派直升机飞越伊朗，你这是自找麻烦。

@MohammedAminu-m4i
I thought all the air defence batteries were decimated is it another friendly fire

我以为所有防空炮台都被摧毁了，难道又是友军误伤？

@ZeeVee-t8g
Prayers for the weopons officer of the f15 makes it out without capture. He's in God's hands now. Pray for them.

为F-15战机的武器操作员祈祷，希望他能平安脱险。他现在在上帝的庇佑之下。请为他们祈祷。

@rockysridhar
IRAN'S mountains ans desserts are so tough that even locals find difficult.

伊朗的山脉和沙漠地形，非常险峻，即使是当地人也觉得难以通行。

@HIALLJMO
So grateful for everyone involved in the rescue of the F-15's Main Pilot. I pray for the 2nd Pilot to be found and rescued as well. A speedy recovery for any injured in the rescue helicopters.

非常感谢所有参与营救F-15主飞行员的人员。我祈祷第二位飞行员也能被找到并获救。祝愿救援直升机上所有受伤人员早日康复。

@PhuongDo-dc2yj
Praying for all Americans soldiers ! Hoping we will find the second pilot soon !

为所有美国士兵祈祷！希望我们能尽快找到第二位飞行员！

@ssgen.vondonald8801
For Fox News to admit they were wounded it means there were multiple deaths

福克斯新闻承认有人受伤，这意味着有多人死亡。

@craigholland2274
How could this happen? No air defense and iran obliterated.

这怎么可能？伊朗已经没有防空系统了，伊朗已经被彻底摧毁了。

@Zenith_5-r9l
When USA was living in stone age ,iran was in metal age

当美国还处于石器时代时，伊朗已经处于金属时代了。

@berettaguy7445
U.S. aviators are truly head-and-shoulders above any other pilots. Thousands of sorties flown, and these are the first planes downed from enemy fire...absolutely amazing there haven't been more. Here's hoping they find our boy...or girl.

美国飞行员的水平确实远超其他国家的飞行员。他们执行了数千次飞行任务，而这是第一批被敌方火力击落的飞机……令人难以置信的是，竟然没有更多飞机被击落。
希望他们能找到我们的飞行员……（无论男女）。

@neale3871
Slingshot with stones? Amazing how Stone Age weapons work so well.

弹出石头的弹弓吗？令人惊叹的是，石器时代的武器竟然如此有效。

@lehlogonolomasuku
“Air superiority over Iran” I guess the planes were downed by sticks and stones

“对伊朗的空中优势”？
我猜那些飞机是被棍棒和石头击落的。

@Avelio3939
Another friendly fire? We all know Iran is in stone age now right?

又一起友军误伤？我们都知道伊朗现在还处于石器时代，对吧？

@KINGSSHOW-k1g
Trump is a fool fooled by war criminal Netanyahu and SACRIFICING US troops for Israel

特朗普是个傻瓜，被战争罪犯内塔尼亚胡愚弄，为了以色列牺牲了美国军人。

@Mrbuckaroonie..
Also reports of a possible downed F16 this morning. This is getting embarrassing for the USA.

今天早上还有报道称：一架F-16战斗机可能被击落。这对美国来说越来越尴尬了。

@gwinssolomon2829
I pray that the remaining service man be found alive and be home with his family. Amen.

我祈祷那位幸存的军人能够平安获救，与家人团聚。阿门。

@mydtfprints25
All their radars were obliterated - Trump

他们所有的雷达都被摧毁了——特朗普

@lisag.2902
For a guy who said he was deserving of nobel peace prize, he sure has started lots of wars

这个人自称应该获得诺贝尔和平奖，但他确实发动了很多战争。