网友讨论：特朗普提议对通过霍尔木兹海峡的船只收取通行费

@SFOPS7
Obituary day please

请刊登讣告

@trainsplanesandotherthings5187
Oh.. I have a bottle of Champagne Ready for that day.

哦……我会为那天准备一瓶香槟。

@TomHarvey-h5c
 @trainsplanesandotherthings5187  Mine's been in the fridge since I heard he got Covid.

自从听说他感染了新冠后，我准备的那瓶香槟就一直放在冰箱里。

@BOMBON187
​ @TomHarvey-h5c Well your better off with wine simce it will last lomger. The old saying of "bad weeds dont die" applies to this SOB.

你还是买葡萄酒比较好，因为它能保存更久。那句老话说得好，“杂草难除”，用在这狗娘养的身上再合适不过了。

@kegaket6772
If you are American, there is a suicide hotline available to you. I encourage you to call it. I lost a close relative to suicide and I miss her every day of my life.

@SFOPS7 ，如果你是美国公民，你可以拨打自杀预防热线。我鼓励你拨打这个热线。我的一位至亲因自杀去世，我每天都很想念她。

@adamlead1
I have a tote full of fireworks under my bed for the big day. I'll be dressed as uncle Sam marching through the streets shooting off fireworks for 10 straight hours.

我家床底下藏着一大袋烟花，准备在大日子那天用。我会打扮成山姆大叔，在街上游行，连续放10个小时的烟花。

@tedged
​ @adamlead1 ima copy you. i got ten hours in me that day. i just started ordering my stash of fireworks!

我会照着你的行为做。那天我有十个小时的时间。我刚开始订购我的烟花！

@AdamRivera-kl4gw
What The FUCK IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN!?!?

这他妈到底是什么意思？！

@gofuyom
 @AdamRivera-kl4gw It’s going to be a special holiday where people remember those who have died. They will read the person’s obituary. An obituary is a public notice of someone’s death and it usually tells a short story of the person who died. Please refrain (don’t) curse until you get older. And go to bed because you don’t want to miss the bus!

这将是一个特殊的节日，人们会缅怀逝者。他们会阅读逝者的讣告。
讣告是公开宣布某人去世的消息，通常会简要介绍逝者的生平。
在长大之前，请不要说脏话。
还有，赶紧睡觉吧，别错过公交车！

@TheMightyZim
Sounds like something a traitor would say. I disliked Clinton, Bush, Obama and Biden…but I’d never cheer their death. Especially while in office. Despicable.

这听起来像是叛徒才会说的话。
我讨厌克林顿、布什、奥巴马和拜登……但我绝不会为他们的死而欢呼。尤其是他们在任期间。这太卑鄙了。

@Picard626
 @TheMightyZim  a real American isn’t loyal to the man in the office, they’re loyal to the ideas of the County, so when the man dishonors the country it is not treason to want them gone.

一个真正的美国人不会忠于执政者本人，他们忠于国家的理念，所以当执政者玷污国家荣誉时，想要他下台并不算是叛国。

@robertlowery5586
 @TheMightyZim  So when Trump cheered the death of Robert Mueller, a DECORATED VETERAN and former FBI Director, did YOU consider it " despicable" as well? Just curious.

所以，当特朗普为功勋卓著的退伍军人、前联邦调查局局长罗伯特·穆勒的死欢呼时，你是否也会认为这种行为是“卑鄙”的？只是好奇而已。

@TheMightyZim
 @robertlowery5586  I consider Robert Mueller despicable He was corrupt. I didn’t voted for Deep State Mueller , I voted for the guy the Deep State hates

我认为罗伯特·穆勒令人鄙夷，他腐败无能。我没有投票给“深层政府”的穆勒，我投票给了“深层政府”痛恨的那个人。

@Eric-Grunton
​ @TheMightyZim He's an embarrassment and traitor to the American people. Who avoided prosecution due to a failed and drawn out legal process. He should be in jail, celebrating his death is part of what will happen when a person who has shown no remorse for their actions in life dies.

他（特朗普）简直是美国人民的耻辱和叛徒。
他因为一场失败且旷日持久的法律程序而逃脱了法律制裁。
他本应身陷囹圄，庆祝他的死亡正是这样一个人死后必然会面临的境况：他生前对自己的所作所为毫无悔意。

@musicismyfriend7919
Through natural means though. Let it happen tonight...we've all had enough.

但要通过自然的方式。就让它今晚发生吧……我们都受够了。

@CaffeineHeadacheLazers
May Jesus protect our president from terrorists like the guy above

愿耶稣保佑我们的总统免受像上面那家伙一样的恐怖分子的伤害。

@chomba-n8i
every time he "declares" victory, it reminds me of Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy 

他每次“宣布”胜利的时候，都让我想起迈克尔·斯科特宣布破产的事。

@TheMimicBox
Release the files.

公布爱泼斯坦文件。

@florious80
If “we won” is a drinking game, I think I may have died already to alcohol poisoning…

如果“我们赢了”是一种喝酒游戏，那我可能已经酒精中毒死了……

@tinaperez7393
At first I really thought this was an SNL skit. My god.

一开始我真的以为这是《周六夜现场》的小品。我的天哪。

@eventhisidistaken
Every day is "I just thought of that" day, and they're all just as stupid.

每天都是“我刚刚想到这个”的日子，但这些想法都一样愚蠢。

@alpinecenter
How about having Trolls in the Hormuz Straits? They let the little ones through, and eat the big ones.

如果霍尔木兹海峡里有巨魔会怎么样？它们会放小的过去，吃掉大的。

@soccerguy2433
Remember when there was zero problems with the Strait in January 2026?

你还记得2026年1月海峡畅通无阻的情景吗？

@946towguy2
There have been problems in the strait since 1979. I remember.

自1979年以来，海峡就一直存在问题。我记得。

@DustinBKerensky97
Remember when we never had to worry about what the dumb angry guy with his finger on the nuke button was going to get so frustrated he ends the world. The biggest concern was that the sleepy guy might stumble on his bike ride to the ice cream store, but at least gas, eggs, and houses were cheaper, and the economy was recovering from the last time the dumb angry guy was threatening to blow things up.

还记得从前吗？
那个时候，我们根本就不需要担心那个傻乎乎的家伙，会因为恼怒而把手指放在核弹按钮上，然后毁灭世界。
那个时候，我们最大的担忧不过是那个昏昏欲睡的家伙，骑车去冰淇淋店的路上可能会摔跤。
但那个时候，至少汽油、鸡蛋和房子都更便宜，而且经济也正在从上次那个傻乎乎的家伙扬言要搞爆炸的事件中恢复过来。

@Dobie_ByTor
 @DustinBKerensky97  Still remember the feeble minded potato who let a million violent criminals into the country for votes, had a Marxist friendly administration and tried to gaslight everyone into believing it wasn’t true. Remember “you’ll own nothing and will be happy.”? But yeah, fight “death to America” terrorists is the hill you pick to fight on. Well done. 

还记着那个头脑简单的家伙呢？
为了拉选票，他放任一百万暴力罪犯入境，组建了一个亲马克思主义的政府，还试图蒙蔽所有人，让他们相信这一切都不是真的。
还记得他那句“你将一无所有，但你会很幸福”吗？
但是，是的，为“美国去死”的恐怖分子奋斗到底是你的目标。做得好。 

@ItzYxllow
 @Dobie_ByTor lMaoo did you pull that number out of your ahh or do you always take trumps word as law. The mass numbers they’ve been deporting were never criminals they were honest people looking for refuge and work. Would you feel the same way about these people if they had the same skin color as you or is it just because they come from Mexico
 
哈哈，你这数字是瞎编的吗？
还是你一直都把特朗普的话奉为圭臬？
他们遣返的那些人根本不是罪犯，他们都是诚实的人，只是想找个地方避难和工作。
如果这些人跟你肤色一样，你还会这么想吗？还是仅仅因为他们来自墨西哥？

@Panchito_0
Weak men create hard times.

软弱的人会制造艰难时期。

@marmeecruz6191
How many times did Trump say, "we've won?" Someone reimind me, please?

特朗普到底说过多少次“我们赢了”？谁能提醒我一下？

@sequoia1171
Mar 3: "We won the war." Mar 7: "We defeated Iran." Mar 9: "We must attack Iran." Mar 9: "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully." Mar 11: “You never like to say too ⁠early you won. We won. In the first hour it was over.” Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet." Mar 13: "We won the war." Mar 14: "Please help us." Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it." Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all." Mar 16: "I was just testing to see who's listening to me." Mar 16: "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad." Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help." Mar 17: "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO." Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz." Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz." Mar 20: "NATO are cowards." Mar 21: "The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don't use it, we don't need to open it." Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait" Mar 22: "Iran is Dead" Mar 23: "We had very good and productive talks with Iran." Mar 24: "We’re making progress." Mar 25: “They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I’m not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.” Mar 26: "Make a deal, or we’ll just keep blowing them away." Mar 27: "We don’t have to be there for NATO." Mar 28: No major quote Mar 29: Claimed talks were progressing Mar 30: "Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences." Mar 31: Claimed a deal was "very close" and that Iran would "do the right thing" Apr 1: "We’ll see what happens very soon." Apr 2: Repeated that a deal was likely, while warning of continued strikes if not Apr 3: "Something big is going to happen." Apr 4: Said Iran must comply "immediately" or face further consequences. Apr 5: "Open the f*ckin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah."

3月3日：“我们赢得了战争。”
3月7日：“我们击败了伊朗。”
3月9日：“我们必须攻击伊朗。” 
3月9日：“战争几乎完全结束了，而且结束得非常漂亮。” 
3月11日：“你永远不喜欢过早地说你赢了。我们赢了。在第一个小时，一切就已经结束了。” 
3月12日：“我们确实赢了，但我们还没有完全赢。” 
3月13日：“我们赢得了战争。” 
3月14日：“请帮帮我们。”
3月15日：“如果你不帮我们，我一定会记住的。” 
3月16日：“实际上，我们根本不需要任何帮助。” 
3月16日：“我只是在试探谁在听我说话。” 
3月16日：“如果北约不帮忙，他们会遭受非常严重的后果。” 
3月17日：“我们既不需要帮助，也不想要北约的帮助。” 
3月17日：“我不需要国会批准就可以退出北约。” 
3月18日：“我们的盟友必须合作重新开放霍尔木兹海峡。” 
3月19日：“美国的盟友需要振作起来——站出来帮助开放霍尔木兹海峡。” 
3月20日：“北约是懦夫。” 
3月21日：“霍尔木兹海峡必须由使用它的国家来保护。我们不使用它，所以我们不需要开放它。” 
3月22日：“这是最后一次。我给伊朗48小时。开放海峡。” 
3月22日：“伊朗完蛋了。” 
3月23日：“我们与伊朗进行了非常好的、富有成效的会谈。” 
3月24日：“我们正在取得进展。” 
3月25日：“他们给了我们一份礼物，礼物今天到了。这是一份非常贵重的礼物，价值连城。我不会告诉你那是什么礼物，但它是一份非常重要的奖赏。” 
3月26日：“达成协议，否则我们就继续把他们打得落花流水。” 
3月27日：“我们不必为了北约而待在那里。” 
3月28日：无重要言论。
3月29日：声称谈判正在取得进展。
3月30日：“立即开放霍尔木兹海峡，否则将面临毁灭性后果。” 
3月31日：声称协议“非常接近达成”，伊朗将“做出正确的选择”。
4月1日：“我们很快就会看到结果。” 
4月2日：重申达成协议的可能性很大，同时警告称，如果未能达成协议，将继续进行打击。
4月3日：“将会发生大事。” 
4月4日：称伊朗必须“立即”遵守协议，否则将面临进一步的后果。
4月5日：“他妈的开放海峡，你们这些疯子，否则你们将下地狱——等着瞧吧！赞美真主。”

@Picard626
I suspect Trump didn’t actually write the art of the deal

我怀疑特朗普实际上并没有撰写过《交易的艺术》。

@linusa2996
Dear Leader, If you have to keep saying that "you won" it probably means you haven't won

尊敬的领袖，如果您需要反复强调“您赢了”，那很可能意味着您还没有赢。

@awkward79
Oh, we've won?

哦，我们赢了？

@cosovic14
"We've won" and 'I'm giving you 48 hours" paired with "Open the fuckin Strait" don't seem to share the same sentiment 

“我们赢了”
“我给你48小时”
“打开海峡”
这三者并列出现，似乎表达的并非同一种情感。

@danvilla1438
Yet. They're charging tolls..and we don't have any control at all of rhe strait

是的，他们在收取通行费……还有，我们对海峡完全没有控制权。

@devonglide1830
Infinite money glitch unlocked. Pretty soon every country, waterway, border, roadway, intersection and shop will have a toll booth in place.

无限金钱漏洞已解锁。很快，每个国家、水道、边境、公路、十字路口和商店都会设立收费站。

@Zorlig
That is... not how a winner talks.

这不是一个胜利者说话的方式。

@danielmargolis3210
Sure, this is five dimensional chess.

当然，这是五维象棋。

@82SteelCity
Trump is like a pigeon playing chess. He just knocks all the pieces over, drops a deuce on the chessboard and then struts around like he won.

特朗普就像一只下棋的鸽子。
他把棋子全碰倒了，并在棋盘上拉了坨屎，然后就趾高气扬地走来走去，好像自己赢了一样。

@jen30551
If we have won, why tf would we need to charge a toll to pass safely.

如果我们已经赢了，那么，为什么还要收取通行费才能安全通过？

@Michael_Marra
This idiot couldn't remember the phrase to the victor go the spoils. When bragging about us stealing Venezuelan oil.

这个白痴吹嘘我们偷了委内瑞拉的石油，他居然忘记了“战利品归胜利者所有”这句话了。

@DaxG-qp3jf
him stealing the oil. he may have used americas military to get it, but i keep hearing the money from selling the oil is going into a private off shore account.

他偷了石油。他可能利用了美国军方，我一直听说卖石油的钱都进了私人海外账户。

@Yardhead
No words.

无话可说

@tm502010
So… Iran can’t charge tolls for their local waters - but WE can!

所以……伊朗不能对其当地水域收取通行费——但我们却可以！惊呆了.jpg

@dwaynepeterson3927
So I should set up a toll on the street in front of my neighbor’s house. crazy

所以，我应该在我邻居家门前的街道上设个收费站。真是疯了。

@newsduke
We can't charge tolls until we can get ships through, which we can't. That's the problem.

除非我们可以让船只过去，否则我们无法收取通行费，这就是问题所在。

@kicker6274
We can stop any ships from going through quite easily. It will mean no ships get through, not just those Iran is allowing.

我们可以轻而易举地阻止任何船只通过。这意味着所有船只都无法通过，而不仅仅是伊朗允许通过的船只。

@hegaliandialectics4289
 @kicker6274 why would we stop ship’s from going through though??? Wasn’t the entire fucking point of this stupid war opening the strait permanently???

我们为什么要阻止船只通行？？？这场愚蠢战争的全部意义不就是为了永久打通海峡吗？？？

@Iluthra
Always about money with that one. Not ours, dude. Now go away!

他眼里只有钱。反正不是我们的钱，哥们儿。现在，滚开！

@MagRise
He is officially batshit crazy

他绝对是个疯子

@teehasheestower
generally you can only charge for a service you can actually provide.

一般来说，你只能对你实际提供的服务收费。

@rewriteanime
Dang it so we are going to have little trolls asking questions every time a ship wants to pass now smh

真倒霉，以后每次有船要经过，都会有小喷子来问东问西了，真是无语。

@TomMercer-u1k
If we’re the winner how come Iran is currently charging 2 million dollars as a toll? Which apparently is news to Trump.

如果我们是赢家，为什么伊朗现在要收取200万美元的过路费？这对特朗普来说显然是新闻。

@toyotaboyhatman
Iran proposed a toll system 2 weeks ago Trump: WE should have a toll system there! he's like a kid cheating on a test by looking at the answers of the student next to him. He's such a grifter.

两周前，伊朗提议实行收费制度。
特朗普说：“我们也应该在那里实行收费制度！” 
他就像个考试作弊的孩子，偷看旁边同学的答案。他真是个骗子。

@AntonVShokolov
We had "China's final warning" Now we should make "America's total victory"

我们已经收到了“中国的最后警告”，现在我们应该取得“美国的全面胜利”。

@LesNessman2001
Huh… so this is winning? Every gas station visit is over $70, every SMALL grocery store visit is OVER $100… US needs a NATIONAL BDS policy. This is too much.

哈……这就是所谓的胜利？
每次加油都要花70多美元，每次去小型杂货店都要花100多美元……
美国需要一项全国性的抵制、撤资和制裁政策。
胜利实在是太多了。

@Morristown337
Why dont we make a massive pirare fleet and target the dark fleet at 1 supertanker every other day to offset what we get from Straight of Hormuz as we need 19 million per day and without Hormuz we only have 15 million per day at most!

为什么我们不组建一支庞大的海盗舰队，每隔一天就以一艘超级油轮为目标，攻击他们，以此来弥补我们从霍尔木兹海峡得到的损失？
现在，我们每天需要 1900 万，而如果没有霍尔木兹海峡的事情，我们每天最多只需要 1500 万！

@mikevega239
Clearly Mr Trump is going with the flow and has a master plan for this war.

显然，特朗普先生顺应潮流，并且对这场战争有了一个周密的计划。

@daniellindberg4557
The funny thing is that before this, if you asked people who owned the Strait of Hormuz, basically everyone would’ve been like, idk why that is/I don’t know and don’t care. Now, cause Dump failed so miserably, people here honestly think Iran owns the strait, which isn’t true. The Strait is an international body of water not owned by anyone. Iran just has territorial/situational control since they can threaten the strait enough to prevent insurance companies from insuring ships going through, practically halting traffic. Iran’s drones have a range of about 500 miles. If you think the US can secure an entire radius of this size around the strait, then I have a bridge to sell you…or a toll you can pay.

有趣的是，在此之前，如果你问人们霍尔木兹海峡的归属权，基本上所有人都会说，我不知道/我不知道也不关心。
现在，因为特朗普的政策彻底失败，这里的人竟然真的认为伊朗拥有霍尔木兹海峡，但这根本不是事实。
霍尔木兹海峡是国际水域，不属于任何国家。伊朗只是拥有领土/情境控制权，因为他们可以威胁海峡，阻止保险公司为通过的船只提供保险，实际上就是让海峡交通瘫痪。
伊朗的无人机航程大约500英里。
如果你认为美国能够控制海峡周围如此广阔的区域，那么，我想告诉你，我是秦始皇……V我50 ，封你做将军。


译注：
最后这句是个梗，故事是：骗子声称自己拥有布鲁克林大桥的所有权，要么我把桥卖给你，要么你交过桥费。意思是：你好愚蠢，好好骗，我要骗你了 。
直译是：我有一座桥要卖给你……或者你交过桥费吧。