为什么(国外)电费这么高（以及为什么情况会变得更糟）？

@EdwardStrishock
You already pay a fee for the upkeep of the company's equipment
 
你已经在为公司的设备维护支付费用了。
 
@WhiteMagnoliaTree
Because trump and republicans are cutting back on renewable energy. Iowa republicans have been practically killing wind energy. And now America has to try and steal it from other countries and war cost money
 
因为特朗普和共和党削减了可再生能源的投入。爱荷华州的共和党几乎在扼杀风能。而现在美国不得不试图从其他国家“偷”风能，战争也花钱。
 
@needinput9805
It’s high because they are forcing us to pay for AI data centers using massive amounts of electricity to store information on us.
They are using AI Biometrics and surveillance to store all information on us
 
电费高是因为他们强迫我们为使用大量电力存储信息的人工智能数据中心买单。他们正在利用人工智能生物识别和监控来存储我们所有的信息。
 
@yournanna866
I don’t understand why in the states like California Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico. Where is the solar power.? Are y’all crazy? It’s sitting right there. Arizona had a huge company making solar power panels. I’d make it law. You have a laws, house built in these states must have an air conditioner. What’s the good of an air conditioner? If you have no power to run it. Solar power should be built on the roof of every new home.
 
我不明白为什么在加利福尼亚、内华达、亚利桑那和新墨西哥这样的州，太阳能在哪里？你们疯了吗？太阳能就在那里等着被利用。亚利桑那有一家大公司生产太阳能电池板。我会把这变成法律。你们有法律规定，这些州建造的房屋必须有空调。如果没有电来运行空调，那空调有什么用？每个新家屋顶上都应该安装太阳能。
 
@jasonmerlino3903
First of all that map is wrong so im not even going to watch the rest. Its says nevada 0% and thats wrong. I live in nevada. My bill has doubled in the last few years. The most was from 2020 to 2024, and i believe the president was Biden. Only saying that because you always try to blame it on trump. Hes only been president for a year. This has been going on for many years.
 
首先，那张地图是错的，所以我根本不想看后面的内容。它说内华达州0%，这是错误的。我住在内华达州。我的电费在过去几年翻了一番。2020年至2024年间涨得最多，我相信那时总统是拜登。之所以提这个，是因为你们总是试图把责任推给特朗普。他只当了一年的总统。这种情况已经持续很多年了。
 
@DeepSaam
The British government wants to prosecute the British ambassador to Washington over the Epstein corruption scandal. The British government shouldn't prosecute the ambassador, but rather those who planned, executed, and profited from the Epstein scheme—namely, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and the Israeli Mossad. But Britain is being hypocritical and lying.
 
英国政府希望起诉驻华盛顿的英国大使，因涉及爱泼斯坦腐败丑闻。英国政府不应该起诉大使，而应该追究那些策划、实施并从爱泼斯坦计划中获利的人——即以色列总理埃胡德·巴拉克和以色列摩萨德。但英国在这一问题上显得虚伪并且撒谎。
 
@McDonut24
data centers need to contribute to the build out cost since it represents and abnromal amount of demand spike compare to normal population growth of a city.
 
数据中心需要为基础设施建设成本做出贡献，因为与城市正常人口增长相比，它们代表了异常的需求激增。
 
@t-bonestickyfingers1336
All lies, we are being gouged. Once a company raises the price on things we are forced to buy or accustomed to buying the price  will never go back down. It happened during covid, they used supply change disruption as a cover to raise prices and when that problem was fixed they never went back down. How did all these companies report record profits during covid?
 
都是谎言，我们正在被敲竹杠。一旦公司提高了我们被迫购买或习惯购买的商品价格，这个价格就永远不会下降。疫情期间就发生过这种情况，他们利用供应链中断作为借口提高价格，而当那个问题解决后，价格也没有回落。这些公司在疫情期间是怎么报告创纪录利润的？
 
@SDGreg
Unfortunately I have found since neither the Government nor Big Energy companies can be trusted, they love to reach their hand into your pocket book.  The only real solution is to generate your own power and be independent from the grid as possible.
 
不幸的是，我发现既然政府和大型能源公司都不可信，他们喜欢伸手向你的口袋里要钱。唯一真正的解决办法是自己发电，尽可能地独立于电网。
 
@LeechyKun
So instead of telling everyone else to conserve or use less energy when they use the least overall, tell Data Centers to do that until more infrastructure is built, simple. And we shouldn't be fitting their bill so they can make billions of more profit at our expense. And people wonder why the Elites rule over us because we allow them to.
 
所以与其告诉其他人节约或少用能源，当他们的总体使用量最低时，不如告诉数据中心在基础设施建设之前先这样做，简单明了。而我们不应该为他们的账单买单，让他们在我们的代价上赚取更多的利润。人们还想知道为什么精英统治着我们，因为我们允许他们这样做。
 
@HippiHelmet
My area had a fixed rate for the last few years. That ended last year and the rates MORE than doubled for kwh. I had to shop providers to find on that was only a 60% increase and that was the best deal I could find. It's already bad and going to get worse.
 
我所在的地区在过去几年里有固定费率。去年这个政策结束了，电价每千瓦时涨了超过一倍。我不得不寻找供应商，找到一个只涨了60%的，那个是我能找到的最优惠的交易。情况已经很糟糕，未来会更糟。
 
@William1866
Really? I heard about 15 years ago this would happen if you started relying on wind turbines. They showed a city out east that had surging prices because of that.
 
真的吗？我记得大约15年前就听说如果依赖风力涡轮机会发生这种情况。他们展示了一个东部城市，由于这个原因价格飙升。
 
@asterixky
Data centers need their own power generators.
 
数据中心需要自己的发电机。
 
@badbrnd
We also need to look at the lack of investment by the electricity distribution companies vs the demand for profits during the expansion
 
我们还需要关注电力分配公司缺乏投资与扩张期间对利润需求之间的关系。
 
@MileHile
Tariffs on Canada and Mexico are esp. stupid. When are the other countries are going to pay the tariffs for our much-needed grid upxes? Or is the inept/corrupt regime just going to keep allowing energy companies to shut down energy delivery (blackouts) when Mother Nature inevitably does her thing? It's all just so stupid. And expensive.
 
对加拿大和墨西哥征收关税特别愚蠢。其他国家什么时候会为我们急需的电网更新支付关税？还是这个无能/腐败的政权只会继续允许能源公司在大自然不可避免地出现问题时关闭能源供应（停电）？这一切都太愚蠢了，而且还很昂贵。
 
@davidcole2337
It is going up because it can. Supply and Demand. If you don't have Competition Pricing can go up for no reason other than just for Profit.
 
价格上涨是因为它可以。供求关系。如果你没有竞争，价格就会无缘无故地上涨，仅仅是为了利润。
 
@alanmcrae8594
Excellent reporting that clearly shows what is going on: maintaining ageing infrastructure + repairing it after extreme weather events + effects of tariffs + Covid shutdown supply shock + Ukraine war grid restoration + new data centers.
As far as new data centers, definitely charge them a higher rate for electricity & water plus an AI usage tax so that companies & individuals who use AI are paying the true cost for providing it. Ordinary citizens who want nothing to do with AI shouldn't be bearing the cost of providing it to those who want it.
 
优秀的报道清楚地展示了发生了什么：维护老旧基础设施 + 在极端天气事件后进行修复 + 征收关税的影响 + 新冠疫情导致的供应冲击 + 乌克兰战争后的电网恢复 + 新的数据中心。至于新的数据中心，肯定应该对它们收取更高的电力和水费，以及人工智能使用税，这样使用人工智能的公司和个人才能支付提供这些服务的真实成本。普通市民不想与人工智能有任何关系，不应该承担为那些想要它的人提供这些服务的成本。
 
@henrythegreatamerican8136
All the money we paid for decades should have went to building up our energy infrastructure. Instead, it went into the pockets of executives and "shareholders."
And who do you think owns the materials needed to build out our infrastructure? Yea, the same shareholders.
 
我们几十年来支付的所有钱都应该用于建设我们的能源基础设施。而是，这些钱进了高管和“股东”的口袋。你认为谁拥有建设我们基础设施所需的材料？没错，就是那些股东。
 
@JakeLancaster-r5s
What an absolutely horrendous video. It is beyond me how it's completely ignored so many of these grids are for profit enterprises that are bringing in record profits. The issue is Capitalism. Not even merely data centers or infrastructure expansion. It's the damn profit motive that's getting a sext handful of people incredibly rich. The only solution to this is to make power grids publicly owned. And even then, the lack of nationalization of the products needed to purchase for an expansion of the grid is problematic.
This issue is rich men getting more rich, while completely destroying access to a vital piece of infrastructure.
 
这真是一个可怕的视频。我无法理解为什么完全忽视了这些电网都是盈利企业，带来了创纪录的利润。问题出在资本主义上。不仅仅是数据中心或基础设施扩张。是该死的利润动机让少数人变得极其富有。解决这个问题的唯一方法就是将电网公有化。即便如此，缺乏对扩张电网所需产品的国有化也是个问题。这个问题是富人越来越富，而完全剥夺了人们对这一重要基础设施的访问。
 
@IraqwarwasaLie
If a data center is built in your community, the local ‘business-friendly’ politicians you elected already signed NDA’s to ensure you are not aware that your energy bill will be subsidizing its operation for years to come.
 
如果在你的社区建了一个数据中心，你选举出的“友好商业”的地方政治家已经签署了保密协议，以确保你不知道你的电费将在未来几年内补贴它的运营。
 
@BonsaiBlacksmith
You all are victims of Investor Owned Utilities paying these horrible prices. Try Cooperatives, 4800 of us in the USA. I am forming one now for my County. To hell with lining investors pockets for a PUBLIC utility.
 
你们都是投资者拥有的公用事业公司在收取这些可怕价格的受害者。试试合作社，在美国我们有4800个。我正在为我的县成立一个。不要再让投资者从公共事业中获利了。
 
@brianwiles3887
Our energy bills are going up because the Companies that own the power plants are price gouging their customers.  plain and simple.  Same thing with food, clothing, and housing.  Ask yourself why does your utility bills keep going up when you have the same meter on your property, the same power lines/infrastructure that's been there since before your great grandparents were born?  They're not building power plants left and right so why the price hike?  That house down the road from you that sold for $89,000 ten years ago, but just went up for sale for $289,000...it's the same house it was 10 years ago.  It's because the 1% are doing everything they can to ensure the other 99% stay broke and struggling for everything needed for basic survival.  Forget saving for retirement, or investing in precious metals when most people are barely able to live slightly better than paycheck to paycheck.  How much worse does it have to get before we as a society start stringing up politicians in the public square?
 
我们的电费上涨是因为拥有发电厂的公司在宰割客户。简单明了。食品、衣物和住房也是同样的情况。问问自己，为什么在你的物业上仍然使用同一个表计、同样的电力线路/基础设施，而这些早在你曾祖父出生之前就存在？他们并没有不断建造新的发电厂，那为什么价格会上涨？你附近那栋十年前以89,000美元出售的房子，现在刚上市售价289,000美元……它十年前和现在是同一栋房子。这是因为1%的人在竭尽所能确保其他99%的人都在贫困中挣扎，连基本生存所需的一切都很困难。忘了储蓄退休金，或者投资贵金属吧，大多数人勉强能够生活得稍微好一点，勉强维持着每月按时支付账单的状态。在我们社会开始在公共广场上绞死政治家之前，情况还要恶化到什么程度？
 
@johnhill3376
Those data centers are going to generate tons of profits for the tech industry; meanwhile most Americans are apprehensive about AI (putting it generously). And oh, the US is a net exporter of oil, so the fossil fuel industry is doing pretty well these days. Same old story; big corporations rake in profits, profits that are subsidized by taxpayers. Ridiculous.
 
这些数据中心将为科技行业带来巨额利润；与此同时，大多数美国人对人工智能感到忧虑（说得委婉点）。而且，美国是净石油出口国，所以化石燃料行业现在的状况相当不错。老生常谈；大公司赚取巨额利润，而这些利润是由纳税人补贴的。荒谬。
 
@scruples671
The US doesn't source or build anything anymore. That is why prices have gone up. So how did outsourcing our manufacturing base save money? It didn't. It is costing us astronomically more to maintain our infrastructure. Corporations don't want to save money they want to make more money. What a disgusting system.
 
美国不再生产或建造任何东西。这就是为什么价格上涨的原因。那么，外包我们的制造基地是如何节省成本的？其实并没有。维护我们的基础设施花费的成本高得惊人。公司并不想节省成本，他们想赚更多的钱。真是个令人厌恶的系统。
 
@JoshuaCollins
Your electric bills are going up because your legislators and your utilities passing the cost of data centers on to you.
It's not the data centers, it's the utilities and your legislators. Read that again
 
你的电费上涨是因为你的立法者和公用事业公司将数据中心的成本转嫁给你。
问题不在于数据中心，而在于公用事业公司和你的立法者。再读一遍。
 
@Billskdm
This was a terrible explanation. It didn’t cover things that are more nuanced. Policy changes that have forced electric companies to keep old plants that were to be closed is a huge cost, especially since coal and natural gas aren’t as competitive long term.
 
这是一个糟糕的解释。它没有涵盖更复杂的事情。迫使电力公司保留本应关闭的旧电厂的政策变化是巨大的成本，尤其是因为长期来看煤炭和天然气的竞争力不如以前。
 
@UncommonSense1776
Prices are going up because we are being forced to use more electricity (i.e., California no longer allows gas appliances in new construction) and because we are relying on more expensive, less reliable sources. The cost of power has been going up before the current Trump administration.
Georgia just put two new nuclear reactors online and has a very diverse grid.
 
价格上涨是因为我们被迫使用更多电力（即，加州不再允许新建筑使用燃气设备），以及因为我们依赖更昂贵且不太可靠的能源来源。在当前特朗普政府之前，电力成本就已经在上涨。
乔治亚州刚刚上线了两个新的核反应堆，电网也非常多样化。
 
@alainrouleau
As a Canadian, it's a good thing Americans are not paying the tariffs and don't need anything from Canada. You Americans have so much money now, LOL
More seriously, I did a comparison between Maryland and Quebec. The bill shown was $144.03 for 633 kWh, which works out to about $0.23 USD/kWh. Where I live in Montreal, residential electricity averages about $0.05–$0.06 USD/kWh (after converting from CAD). At that rate, 633 kWh would cost roughly $35 plus fees for a total of $42, not $144.
Quite the difference!
 
作为一个加拿大人，真是好事，美国人不需要支付关税，也不需要从加拿大购买任何东西。你们美国人现在有那么多钱，哈哈。
更严肃一点，我对马里兰州和魁北克做了个比较。显示的账单是144.03美元，使用了633千瓦时，算下来约为每千瓦时0.23美元。在我住的蒙特利尔，居民用电的平均价格大约是每千瓦时0.05到0.06美元（转换自加元）。以这个价格计算，633千瓦时的费用大约是35美元，加上费用总共42美元，而不是144美元。
真是天壤之别！
 
@viyusavery248
Crazy that Americans use 600kw of energy in a month
I can do 100kw or less
 
美国人一个月使用600千瓦的能源真是疯狂。
我可以做到100千瓦或更少。
 
@gamingtonight1526
Prices will rise because American's voted for an anti-climate change President, so he's stopping all the CHEAP solar panels and wind farms, and going for "drill drill drill", meaning oil, coal and fracking, all EXPENSIVE fossil fuels! A by-product of this is food increases as climate change affected farms and ranches!
 
价格会上涨，因为美国人投票选出了一个反气候变化的总统，他停止了所有便宜的太阳能电池板和风电场，转而“钻钻钻”，意味着石油、煤炭和水力压裂等昂贵的化石燃料！这导致的一个副产品是，气候变化影响了农场和牧场，因此食品价格上涨！
 
@judgedreadz-b1u
I was just informed yesterday my bill would be $15 more ,after they berated me about how much power i had used during some freezing days last month ,that i would not normally use . Normally my contract comes in december ,but this december was warm ,they waited for the cold to justify the increase .
 
我昨天刚被告知我的账单会多出15美元，之前他们还责备我在上个月一些寒冷的日子里用了太多电，而我通常不会这么用。通常我的合同是在十二月签订，但今年十二月天气温暖，他们等到寒冷天气来证明涨价的合理性。
 
@cvillefarmer
Who would have thought reducing our power supply by 20% from shutting down coal power plants would raise rates when these new huge power hungry customers (data centers) come on the grid. Shutting down coal was fine when everything was getting more efficient and total power usage was steady or slightly reducing from the peak in the early 2000s. But data centers have started using more energy than the grid has capacity for. Solar and Wind dont produce enough power and new capacity cannot be added fast enough. We are still shooting ourselves in the foot by continuing to shut down coal plants. Coal may be dirty, but its cheap.     Also solar causes less efficient peaker plants to be required cuz the solar power supply starts to go down during peak demand (4-8pm). Nuclear is the best answer as it can ramp up and down quickly but it is expensive to build and would take a decade to build cuz we cannot build anything in the US anymore without huge cost overruns and delays.
 
谁会想到，从关闭煤电厂减少20%的电力供应会导致价格上涨，而这些新的大功耗客户（数据中心）接入电网呢？在一切变得更高效、整体用电量从2000年代初的峰值稳步或略微下降时，关闭煤电是可以的。但数据中心开始使用的能源超过了电网的承载能力。太阳能和风能的发电量不足，而新容量无法迅速增加。我们继续关闭煤电厂，实际上是在自损其足。煤炭可能很脏，但它便宜。此外，太阳能的发电效率在高峰需求期间（下午4点至8点）下降，这就需要效率较低的调峰电厂来补充。核能是最好的解决方案，因为它可以快速调节，但建设成本高，建造周期长，由于美国现在无法以合理成本建造任何东西，通常会导致巨大的预算超支和延误，这将需要十年。
 
@DavidButler-b9m
Survival favors the prepared. Get off grid. Get self sufficient. Focus on needs more and less on wants. Live frugally, garden, and preserve food. Drill a well, dig a cistern, catch rainwater. Ultimately you and you alone are responsible for your own well being. Quit expecting others to take care of you and take care of yourself. At the end of the day no one is coming to save you.
 
 
生存偏爱有准备的人。脱离电网。实现自给自足。更多关注需求，少关注欲望。节俭生活，种菜，保存食物。打井，挖水池，收集雨水。最终，你和你自己才是自己幸福的责任。停止期待他人照顾你，照顾好自己。到头来，没有人会来拯救你。
 
@MonteCristoKaramazov
Electricity cost this year and last has been the worse I’ve seen in my lifetime. I don’t know if that’s because of the tariffs, but i do know, tariffs are not driving the price down.
 
今年和去年电力成本是我一生中见过的最糟糕的。我不知道这是否是因为关税，但我知道，关税并没有降低价格。
 
@clanless-z6z
Donald has told me that energy prices have fallen.  Donald knows best.
 
唐纳德告诉我，能源价格已经下降。唐纳德最懂。
 
@Dennis-uc2gm
They need to lean the extra cost of utilities including water to the data centers and not consumers. Make building a data center a plus for communities instead of nobody wanting them now. Data centers don't like that then don't build it.
 
他们需要把水电等额外费用转嫁到数据中心，而不是消费者身上。让在社区内建设数据中心成为一件好事，而不是现在没人想要它们。如果数据中心不喜欢这个，那就别建。
 
@dennisenright9347
How does the demand from data centers compare to residential use? And how much of an increase in residential use will there be from switching to an electric car, or replacing a natual gas furnace with electric heat?
 
数据中心的需求和居民用电相比如何？从使用电动汽车或将天然气炉更换为电加热后，居民用电会增加多少？
 
@jtmartin8445
If we never outsourced production of the things WE NEED then we wouldn’t be in this position to start with!!
 
如果我们从未外包生产我们所需的东西，我们根本就不会处于这种境地！
 
@SorenLund-u2f
One of the biggest problems with US power supplies is that they still use the less efficient 110V supply, which causes greater losses in the wiring than 240V, which is used in most of the world.
 
美国电力供应最大的问题之一是仍然使用效率较低的110伏电压，这导致线路损耗比大多数国家使用的240伏要大。
 
@Thomas-y5m
I live in Michigan. Last year, there was an ice storm. The consumer was stuck with a 90 million bill, fun stuff. So, if the insurance company increases the rate for insurance, the utility companies will pass this on to the customers.
 
我住在密歇根州。去年发生了一场冰风暴，消费者被迫承担了9000万美元的账单，真是有趣。所以，如果保险公司提高保险费率，公用事业公司将把这费用转嫁给客户。
 
@matthewhuszarik4173
If you are a residential user if you use more electricity you actually pay a higher rate. But all
 
如果你是居民用户，实际上使用更多电力会支付更高的费率。但所有...
 
@supersquirrel7546
Delaware is crazy high. My winter months increases about 40%. I suffer the summers and haven't used air-conditioning for the last 3 years.
It's absolutely horrible.
 
特拉华州的电费疯狂高。我的冬季账单增加了约40%。我忍受夏天，过去三年没有使用空调。
这真是太糟糕了。
 
@MyGoogleYoutube
Holy cow — power measured over time is kilowatt-hours (kWh). The number of times you said it incorrectly when it was literally printed on screen was pretty stunning.
I know it sounds like a small detail, but it matters. Understanding kWh is fundamental to understanding your power bill, and when someone in a reporting role gets it wrong, it adds to the public confusion rather than helping.
 
天哪——电力的计量单位是千瓦时（kWh）。你在屏幕上明确显示这个单位时，错误地说了很多次，真的让人震惊。
我知道这听起来像个小细节，但这很重要。理解千瓦时是理解你的电费账单的基础，当一个报告角色的人搞错时，只会增加公众的困惑，而不是帮助大家。
 
@wsurfer2147
Last year i used 288kw in December, it cost $80. This year I used 240kw. It cost $92. SCE changed the rate structure in December so that the more you use the cheaper the rate which caters to large companies. We are paying for data centers' energy use !
 
去年12月我用了288千瓦时，花了80美元。今年我用了240千瓦时，花了92美元。SCE在12月改变了收费结构，使用越多费率越便宜，这对大型公司有利。我们在为数据中心的能源使用买单！
 
@Deep_Sorcery
I don't mind paying a little more because since they upxed the grid in my state, it's much more reliable. We don't lose power as often or for as long.
 
我不介意多支付一点，因为自从他们更新了我所在州的电网后，电力供应可靠得多。我们不再那么频繁或长时间停电。
 
@krissrock
Data centets should definitely pay more! They use that power to make profits! Consumers shouldn't have to split that bill if the DC's don't share their profits!
 
数据中心绝对应该支付更多费用！他们使用这些电力来获取利润！如果数据中心不分享他们的利润，消费者就不应该分担这笔账单！
 
@Comeback180
Its astounding that something important such as infrastructure can't be passed through congress.
Every state needs new, reliable, durable and resilient infrastructure for the 21st century.
 
令人震惊的是，像基础设施这样重要的事情竟然不能通过国会。每个州都需要为21世纪建设新的、可靠的、耐用的和有韧性的基础设施。
 
@roddycreswell8613
Coal plants have long been paid for, closing them down for so called green energy is expensive which power is being bought from neighboring suppliers still burning coal to make up for reduced power output.
 
煤电厂早已还清了债务，关闭它们以所谓的绿色能源是昂贵的，而我们仍需从邻近供应商那里购买煤电，以弥补减少的发电量。
 
@Hans-gb4mv
Small correction, your consumption and the price is set per kilowatt/hour not per kilowatt. It's like saying you're driving on the road and doing 50 miles.
And for all Americans, I wish I had California's prices, would make my bills a lot cheaper ...
 
小修正一下，你的消费和价格是按千瓦时计算的，而不是按千瓦计算的。这就像说你在路上行驶时速度是50英里。
对于所有美国人来说，我希望我能拥有加利福尼亚的电价，那样我的账单会便宜很多……
 
@oldowl33
Data Centers get more water and more electricity, because of sweet backroom deals corporations get big tax breaks. Officials get their kickback and ultimately we the people are forced to pay the bills of a freeeloading company. The modus operandi is recognized.
 
数据中心获得更多的水和电，因为公司通过私下交易获得了巨大的税收优惠。官员们获得了回扣，最终我们这些人被迫支付这个吃空饷公司的账单。这种操作方式是显而易见的。
 
@steveurbach3093
Foul! USA transformers are NOT designed for 50Hz. In addition, grid PRIMARY and SECONDARY voltages may not be the same as in common use in the US.
 
不对！美国的变压器并不是为50赫兹设计的。此外，电网的初级和次级电压可能与美国常用的电压不同。