QA：为什么格陵兰岛更愿意依附丹麦而不是欢迎美国的到来？英国人表示有话要说

Niklas Öhrström
Probably because the Greenlanders prefer Denmark. It is not very difficult to understand why.
The USA suffer from a lack of democracy. Recently, many US residents, who have peacefully protested against the American leadership have been murdered by US federal agencies such as ICE. Why would anyone choose to live in such a place?
As a US resident, if you get sick or get wounded in an accident it may cost you a fortune if you have an assurance. If you don't have one, you may easely end up as homeless.
Denmark doesn't turn down its allies. The US claims to be an ally to Denmark but is currently threatening to invade Denmark.

​大概是因为格陵兰人更喜欢丹麦。理由并不难理解。美国存在民主缺失的问题。近期，许多和平抗议美国领导层的美国居民，遭到了诸如ICE的美国联邦机构的杀害。谁会愿意选择生活在这样一个地方？
作为一名美国居民，即便你有保险，一旦生病或遭遇意外受伤，医疗开销也可能让你倾家荡产。倘若没有保险，你很容易沦落至无家可归的结局。

丹麦不会背弃自己的盟友。美国声称是丹麦的盟友，眼下却虎视眈眈地要涌入丹麦。

Nick Schön
Ummm…you seriously call Denmark "overdramatic"? Have you seen what the USA is like at the moment?
Anyway. Moving on.
It can't have escaped your notice that Greenland is rich in enexploited minerals. Trump's America is not really into great international humanitarian gestures, so just as with Venezuela it was their oil he was after (oil which is extremely expensive to obtain and process I might add), with Greenland it's their minerals. He doesn't care about Greenlanders or protecting them, of that you can be 100% sure.

呃…… 你真的认为这是丹麦在 “小题大做”？你没看到现在的美国是什么样子吗？
算了，不说这个了，继续。
你肯定也注意到了，格陵兰岛拥有着大量未被开采的矿产。特朗普治下的美国并非真心想践行伟大的国际人道主义行径，而是就像觊觎委内瑞拉的石油那样（ 我需要补充一句那里的石油开采和加工成本高得离谱 ） 垂涎格陵兰岛的矿产。你可以百分之百确定，他根本不在意也不想保护格陵兰人。

It can't have escaped your notice either that Greenlanders don't want to be Americans, or rather, third-class Americans, because they wouldn't have the same rights as Americans in say, Arizona. Nor would they have universal healthcare. They'd start going bankrupt because their son or daughter got childhood cancer, just like Americans do. Greenlanders are used to a liberal democracy. That would change pretty quickly. In fact there's a whole host of things like free tertiary education that would have to change, and perhaps that's why Greenlanders don't want to become Americans.

并且你也肯定注意到了，格陵兰人不想成为美国人，或者更确切地说，不想成为三等美国人，因为他们不会拥有和亚利桑那州的美国人同等的权利。同样的，也不会享有全民医疗保障。他们会因为儿女患上儿童癌症而倾家荡产，就像普通美国人一样。格陵兰人早已适应了自由民主的制度，而这一切会迅速改变。事实上，还有一大堆诸如免费高等教育之类的福利都会化为泡影，这或许就是格陵兰人不愿成为美国人的原因。

Newsflash! Lots of others don't want to be Americans either, including us Brits. In fact it wasn't long ago that we literally went to war because the Brits in the Falkland Islands didn't want to become Argentinians. It's a deeply held principle that civilised countries don't simply take over others, especially against their will.

重磅提醒！还有很多人也不想成为美国人，包括我们英国人。事实上，不久前我们还真的打过一场仗，就因为福克兰群岛的英国人不愿成为阿根廷人。这是一条潜规则，文明国家不会随意吞并他国，尤其是在他们不情愿的情况下。

And finally, you call the US "a powerful ally". I mean, honestly. A year ago I'd have said that the US was an ally, but Trump's treatment of Ukraine and his threats to annex Canada and Greenland make sane people think that his understanding of the word is… "original", shall we say. The trust that took many decades to build by successive presidents has been undone in a year. Leaders of former allied lands all look on the US with great caution now, because at any moment Trump might decide the moon really is made of cheese, and any country that doesn't help him exploit the great cheese ball in the sky will get slapped with 25% tariffs.

最后，你居然把美国称作 “强大的盟友”。我的意思是，一年前，我或许还会说美国是盟友，但特朗普对乌克兰的所作所为，以及他扬言吞并加拿大和格陵兰岛的行径，是个神志正常的人都会觉得，他对 “盟友” 这个词有独属于他自己的见解。历任总统耗费数十年建立起来的信任，在一年内化为乌有。如今，昔日同盟国家的领导人都对美国保持高度警惕，因为特朗普随时可能突发奇想，比如认定月球其实是奶酪做的，而任何不配合他开发这颗巨型奶酪星球的国家，都会得到 25% 的关税制裁。

Mike McGuire
“Which could bring real wealth, development, and strong protection”?
What, like West Virginia?

能带来实实在在的财富、发展和强有力的保护”？
就像西弗吉尼亚州那样吗？

West Virginia has a recent population around 1.77 million, a median age of 42.7, and a median household income of about $58,000. Key stats include a poverty rate near 17%, a significant white (non-Hispanic) majority (around 90%)。

西弗吉尼亚州最新统计显示人口约 177 万，年龄中位数 42.7 岁，家庭收入中位数约 5.8 万美元。其中有一条关键数据显示，在17% 的贫困率里非西班牙裔白人占比约90%。

Some of the poor have to hunt wild animals to feed their family. There is little social welfare.Now, Denmark has a per capita income almost twice that of the good folks in old West Virginy. They have better life expectancy by ten years and very good free healthcare and public services.

一些穷人不得不靠捕猎野生动物养家糊口，当地的社会福利少得可怜。而现在丹麦的人均收入几乎是西弗吉尼亚州居民的两倍。丹麦人的预期寿命比他们长十年，还享有优质的免费医疗和公共服务。

Greenland’s population is self-governing and only numbers the population of a large town in total. They have been supported financially by the Danes and enjoy a similar quality of life. The population is largely Inuit.

格陵兰实行自治，总人口数相当于一座大型城镇的人口。丹麦人一直在经济上支持着格陵兰，格陵兰的民众享有与丹麦相近的生活质量，因纽特人是他们的人口主体。

Those people have seen the shit that the first nation Americans have endured, treated as second class and their way of life suppressed. They don’t want the same nonsense. America does not protect anything but America’s wealth. America is run by rich gangsters whose only interest in Greenland is to rape the territory of its natural resources. The greed of Trumps gang is enabled by a population of gullible imbeciles who think it has something to do with defence. It is all about money, the same as every other chapter of colonial history.

这些人已经看到了美国本土的美国人所遭受的苦难 —— 他们被当作二等公民对待，自身的生活方式遭到压制。而格陵兰人不想重蹈覆辙。美国只会保护本国的财富，对其他事物毫不在意。美国由一群富豪帮派掌控，他们对格陵兰唯一的兴趣，就是掠夺这片土地的自然资源。“特朗普们”的贪婪行径，正得到一群易受蒙骗的蠢货的纵容，这些人竟还以为这一切与国防有关。这一切的本质都是为了钱，就像殖民历史上的每一个篇章一样。

Benjamin Muller
Probably because they know what red state shit holes are like and how the American system only works for the wealthiest.
The average American… hell, the average Republican Trump supporter, is a broke ass motherfucker barely getting by. Only republican voters, delusional pretentious fucktards they are, pretend like they’re about to be millionaires any day now, so they allow themselves to be cucked by the rich.

大概是因为他们见识过红州那些破地方是什么样的以及知晓美国的这套体制只服务于最有钱的那群人。
普通美国人…… 呵，就算是普通的共和党特朗普支持者，也不过是个穷得叮当响的混蛋，勉强混口饭吃罢了。也就共和党选民这帮沉浸在幻想里的弱智，成天以为自己马上就能成为百万富翁，所以才任由那些有钱人把他们耍得团团转。

David Crauswell
The US has zero interest in bringing “real wealth, development, and strong protection” to Greenland.

美国没有任何兴趣将“实实在在的财富、发展和强有力的保护”给予格陵兰 。

Trump wants Greenland for one reason only: to rape it for its natural resources which he will sell to the highest bidder among his sycophantic donors and pocket the proceeds. It is just one piece of a new American Empire that Trump wants to build, continuing to put pressure on having Canada join the US directly while having all the less-affluent and less-white parts of the Western Hemisphere as either colonies or vassal states.

特朗普想要格陵兰的原因只有一个：榨取格陵兰的自然资源，再将这些资源卖给那些对他阿谀奉承的金主中出价最高的人，然后把收益全部收进自己口袋里。这不过是特朗普想要打造的新美利坚帝国的其中一环 —— 他还在持续施压，要求加拿大直接并入美国，同时将西半球所有相对贫穷、非白人占比更高的地区都变成美国的殖民地或附属国。

Trump has no interest in native Greenlanders, especially their wishes in regards to their own self-determination. Hell, if they put up too much of a fuss, he’ll send ICE over to deport them as “illegal immigrants” to Denmark even though the vast majority have lived in Greenland for generations and don’t even have Danish ancestors, and if Denmark doesn’t take them then to some prison in El Salvador or Uganda.

特朗普根本不在乎格陵兰的本地人，尤其是他们对自主决定权方面的期许。呵，要是他们敢过多反抗，特朗普就会派ICE过去，把他们当作 “非法移民” 驱逐到丹麦 ，即便这些人里大部分的人世世代代都生活在格陵兰，连个丹麦祖先都没有。要是丹麦拒绝接收，他就会把这些人送去萨尔瓦多或乌干达的某个监狱。

And strong protection? This is the most laughable reason by far. Denmark and by extension Greenland are NATO members. The US as a member of NATO is already committed to the territorial security of Greenland. If Russia or China were to try to invade (which neither has the logistical ability to do even if they wanted) then Article Five of the NATO Charter would kick in and all NATO members would come to Greenland’s assistance, including the US. The US already has military bases there and had more previously that it closed but could likely reopen with a simple request to Denmark and/or the Greenland government. Saying the US should have Greenland for protection is specious if not outright ludicrous.
And don’t get me started on “overdramatic.” That’s MAGA to a tee.

至于所谓的 “强有力的保护”，这是我见过最好笑的说法。丹麦作为北约成员国，其所属的格陵兰也自然享有相关权益。美国同为北约成员国，本就承诺为格陵兰的领土安全提供保障。如果俄罗斯或C试图入侵格陵兰（即便这两国真想这么做，也不具备相应的后勤能力），北约宪章第五条也会立即生效，所有北约成员国都会出兵支援格陵兰，美国也不例外。美国早已在格陵兰设有军事基地，此前还关闭过更多基地，而只要向丹麦或格陵兰政府提出一个简单的请求，这些基地大概率就能重新启用。美国宣称为了保护格陵兰才要掌控它，即使不算是完全虚假的谎言，也是毫无根据的说法。

还有别跟我提什么 “小题大做”，这简直是MAGA 的翻版。

Da Goat
Honest to god, greenland should just be a independent country…i mean..it’s fucking crazy, their like over 200 times the size of denmark and geographically closer to north america than europe…the fckin danes should just give it up.
greenland should’ve been sovereign years ago. a modern day example of a region still under european colonization.
It really makes no sense….idon know why that island is still “under” denmark.

说真的，格陵兰就该成为一个独立的国家…… 我是说…… 这简直是太疯狂了，格陵兰的面积足足是丹麦的 200 多倍，从地理位置上看，离北美也比离欧洲近得多…… 丹麦人应该放弃它。
格陵兰几年前就该拥有自主权了。这就是现代一个地区仍处于欧洲殖民统治下的活生生的例子。
这事儿真的毫无道理…… 我实在搞不懂，这地方怎么还在丹麦的统治下。