明尼苏达州一白人女性被移民执法局当街枪杀，引起美国巨大舆论风波

ThomasCro
likes: 635
i am so glad there is a whole ocean separating me from this dystopian shitshow
 
我很高兴有一整片大洋将我与这场反乌托邦的狗屎闹剧隔离开来。
 
Ser_Munchies
likes: 81
Man you're so lucky. They're like, just over the horizon from me. It's disconcerting
 
伙计，你真幸运。他们离我只有一地平线之隔。这令人不安。
 
ThomasCro
likes: 77
The mayor said he will be mobilizing the National Guard to counter ICE operations. Sounds like a civil war. And history showed us the United States is "united" by force basically.
 
市长说他将动员国民警卫队来对抗 ICE 的行动。听起来像是一场内战。历史向我们表明，美国基本上是靠武力“联合”起来的。
 
BlueSky_fur
likes: 6
Petition to change “United states of America”
To “states of America”
 
请愿将“美利坚合众国”
改为“美利坚诸国”
 
dantheplanman1986
likes: 24
You're both lucky, I have to live here.
And yes, have to. Kids are here, no money to move to another country, no skill to get a visa anyway. I don't even have a passport, like most Americans
 
你们都很幸运，我却不得不生活在这里。
是的，不得不。孩子在这里，没钱搬到别的国家，也没有能拿到签证的技能。像大多数美国人一样，我甚至连护照都没有。
 
thethoughtstream
likes: 15
Just illegally cross a border in search of a better life, like everyone else does.
 
就像其他人一样，非法越境去寻找更好的生活呗。
 
SoupieLC
likes: 17
Couldn't happen in mine as our police require years of training and we don't allow numbnuts to run around with guns
 
这在我的国家不可能发生，因为我们的警察需要多年的训练，而且我们不允许蠢货拿着枪到处乱跑。
 
ThomasCro
likes: 19
ICE isn't police, thats the problem.
 
ICE 不是警察，这就是问题所在。
 
alphabeticdisorder
likes: 15
well, it's *a* problem.
 
好吧，这算是*一个*问题。
 
KnightofWhen
likes: 8
They literally are a federal law enforcement agency and pretending they’re not is how people end up shot, apparently.
To wit,
The United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is a federal law enforcement agency under the supervision of the United States Department of Homeland Security.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Immigration_and_Customs_Enforcement
 
他们实际上就是一个联邦执法机构，假装他们不是，显然正是人们最终被枪杀的原因。
也就是说，
美国移民和海关执法局（ICE）是美国国土安全部监管下的联邦执法机构。
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Immigration_and_Customs_Enforcement
 
FamousRest
likes: 8
If it was in mine the officier who killed willl get millions of euros from private donations for being racist pos.
Already happen and i'm in France
 
如果是在我的国家，杀人的警官会因为是个种族主义垃圾而通过私人捐款获得数百万欧元。
这事已经发生过了，我在法国。
 
ALLCAPS-ONLY
likes: 4
Do you have some sources for incidents like the ones you're talking about...? He'd definitely be in jail with video evidence like this. (I'm also french)
 
你有你提到的这类事件的来源吗……？有了这样的视频证据，他肯定会进监狱的。（我也是法国人）
 
BrokenArrow1283
likes: 12
You can tweet something and be in prison in your country.
 
在你们国家，发条推文都可能进监狱。
 
0Charkell0
likes: 3
What country is Texas in, where an ex-police chief was arrested and spent 37 days in jail with a $2 million bail for a post about Charlie Kirk? Lowkirkenchuinely curious.
 
得克萨斯州是在哪个国家？那里的一位前警察局长因为发布了关于查理·柯克的帖子而被捕并入狱 37 天，保释金高达 200 万美元？我真的有点好奇。
 
kleenexreves
likes: 21
Your Law enforcement is executing people and your comeback is people are put in jail in other countries for social media. Both are bad but, Talk about comparing appels to oranges or in this case 45. Acp
 
你们的执法部门正在处决活人，而你的反驳居然是其他国家有人因为社交媒体入狱。这两者都很糟糕，但这简直是在拿苹果跟橘子比，或者在这个案例里是拿人命跟推文比。
 
BrokenArrow1283
likes: -15
Nobody is being executed here. And if they are, the police  are prosecuted. You just have no idea what you’re talking about and that is not my fault. It’s not my fault that you are completely ignorant.
 
这里没有人被处决。如果有，警察会受到起诉。你根本不知道自己在说什么，这不是我的错。你的完全无知不是我的错。
 
mistermanko
likes: 6
It's your fault defending murder.
 
为谋杀辩护就是你的错。
 
MedTactics
likes: -1
Funny part about this is, we are in a sub that greatly exemplifies the dangers of being run over, and we clearly watch a guy just about get ran over by a karen that doesn't know the meaning of "stop". Most people would comply if they just simply drove down the wrong street at the wrong time, not hit the gas after being ordered to stop their vehicle. i get the feeling she intended to be there.
Which with the footage from before incident being cut, every video weve seen so far starts exactly just seconds before shooting, and miraculously absolutely no one was recording until that exact moment, simply remarkable. Makes me think she was being a nuisance and obstructing, hence the response and why they surrounded her car to make an arrest being the simplest conclusion.
But sure, she was just merely killed for no reason.
 
有趣的是，我们身处的这个版块极好地例证了被车碾压的危险，而且我们清楚地看到一个人差点被一个不懂“停车”含义的泼妇（Karen）碾过。大多数人如果是单纯在错误的时间开进了错误的街道，在被命令停车后是会照做的，而不是踩油门。我感觉她是故意去那里的。
再加上事件发生前的镜头被剪掉了，目前我们看到的所有视频都恰好从枪击前几秒开始，而且奇迹般地在那一刻之前绝对没人在录像，这真了不起。这让我觉得她当时是在捣乱和阻碍执法，因此他们包围她的车进行逮捕是最简单的结论。
当然咯，她只是无缘无故被杀的。
 
CommunityDragon184
likes: 6
You’re delusional if you think this is not an execution or that any consequences will be faced by this officer. That’s even ignoring the long history of police getting away with murdering innocent people.
 
如果你认为这不是处决，或者认为这名警官会面临任何后果，那你就是有妄想症。这还没算上警察杀害无辜平民却逍遥法外的悠久历史。
 
ThomasCro
likes: 20
Your statement suggests you value the right to harass or dehumanize others more than stopping real-world violence. You’re imagining “tweeting heinous shit” and pretending that being held accountable for it is worse than people being killed by state agents.
And no, “American free speech” isn’t special. It’s an average implementation of a basic right, and the US isn’t even close to the top globally, it’s somewhere around #30. Believing otherwise is just American exceptionalism propaganda. You’re being sold the idea that you’re special because the system knows you won’t bother checking how the rest of the developed world actually does free speech.
It’s honestly depressing how easily people buy into this myth without bothering to look at how the rest of the developed world actually functions. Your government relies on you being bored by facts, and there is a high chance that reading this response I wrote is tedious to you. You know what, fuck all this, let's go shoot some guns! And maybe we won't kill anyone by accident this time!
 
你的声明表明，相比于制止现实世界的暴力，你更看重骚扰或非人化他人的权利。你想象着“在推特上发令人发指的狗屎”，并假装为此承担责任比被国家特工杀害更糟糕。
不，“美式言论自由”并不特别。这只是一项基本权利的平均水平实施，美国在全球排名甚至都没登顶，大概在第30名左右。不相信这一点纯属美国例外论的宣传。你被灌输了“你很特别”的观念，因为系统知道你不会费心去查查其他发达国家实际上是如何实行言论自由的。
老实说，人们如此轻易地听信这个神话，却不愿去看看其他发达国家是如何运作的，这令人沮丧。你们的政府依赖于你们对事实感到厌倦，而且很有可能，读我写的这篇回复对你来说也是枯燥乏味的。你知道吗，去他妈的这一切，我们去开几枪吧！也许这次我们不会误杀任何人！
 
BrokenArrow1283
likes: -23
Do me a favor. Count how many American products you and your family and friends use on a daily basis. This includes electronic devices, medications, any medical advancement or invention, etc.
You’re welcome. America IS exceptional. Fuck off.
 
帮我一个忙。数数你和你的家人朋友每天使用多少美国产品。包括电子设备、药物、任何医疗进步或发明等。
不客气。美国*就是*例外的。去你的。
 
Level9disaster
likes: 5
You are the reason American products have warning labels.
 
美国产品上贴有警告标签就是因为你这种人。
 
Philly5984
likes: 10
I would imagine it wouldn’t be much since I live in America and don’t have many American made items
Even my American flag hanging out front was made in Mexico
 
我想那不会太多，因为我就住在美国，但我并没有多少美国制造的物品。
就连我家门前挂的美国国旗都是墨西哥制造的。
 
Elegant-Raise-9367
likes: 15
Lol, NONE. Literally nothing. I drive a Japanese car, im writing this on a Korean phone, with a Chinese painkiller helping my back that is in recovery from a German designed surgery using hardware made in NZ on an australian designed titanium 3d printer.
 
哈哈，一个都没有。字面意义上的啥都没有。我开日本车，正用韩国手机写这段话，吃着中国产的止痛药缓解背痛，这背痛是做了一个德国设计的手术留下的，手术用了新西兰制造的硬件和澳大利亚设计的钛金属3D打印机。
 
ThomasCro
likes: 10
Cool, America makes stuff. That has nothing to do with state agents killing people.
I can enjoy American entertainment sometimes and still be glad I’m a whole ocean away, honestly, that’s the absolute best of both worlds. I can take things I like and not have to deal with the horrible insane shit.
And it doesn't make me feel good to have to rub your nose in that fact. You took it in this direction, I just wanted to focus on the fact that you deflected justifying murder with a predictable "muh free speech" statement.
 
酷，美国能造东西。但这与国家特工杀人毫无关系。
说实话，有时候我可以享受美国的娱乐产品，但仍然很高兴我与你们隔着整个大洋，这绝对是两全其美。我可以享用我喜欢的东西，而不必面对那些可怕疯狂的破事。
不得不把这个事实摆在你面前羞辱你，并没让我感觉多好。是你把话题引向这个方向的，我只是想聚焦于这样一个事实：你用老套的“啊我的言论自由”这种声明来转移话题，为谋杀辩护。
 
BrokenArrow1283
likes: -5
So do you also enjoy America’s protection? Do you live in a NATO country? I can keep going and going. But you will of course try to find ways to insult me for being an American. I’m totally secure with being an American and love my country. I have lived on three continents and have extensively traveled six continents. I have probably been to more countries than you can count. Trust me when I say that America is my favorite country in the world, by far. Nothing you can say will ever truly insult me.
What country do you live in?
 
那你也享受美国的保护吗？你住在北约国家吗？我可以一直说下去。但你当然会想方设法因为我是美国人而侮辱我。作为一名美国人，我非常有安全感并且热爱我的国家。我在三大洲生活过，在六大洲广泛旅行过。我去过的国家可能比你数出来的都多。相信我，到目前为止，美国是我在这个世界上最喜欢的国家。你说的任何话都无法真正侮辱到我。
你住在哪个国家？
 
ThomasCro
likes: 4
I’m just replying to say I will not be engaging in this conversation anymore. This started as a discussion about real-world killings, and you somehow turned it into a patriotic brag-fest. I’m honestly saddened to see that someone so well-traveled reverts back to tribalism, even after being globally aware. I have no interest in defending or applauding nationalism. I despise patriotism. There isn’t a single nation in this world that deserves that much praise. Stay safe, and maybe try thinking about other living beings a bit more in your life.
EDIT: I also noticed you called my statements as “insults.” That makes me seriously doubt how well-traveled or educated you are, because it’s a huge logical leap to make if you are.
 
我回复只是为了说我不会再参与这个对话了。这原本是一场关于现实世界杀戮的讨论，你却不知何故把它变成了一场爱国主义吹嘘大会。老实说，看到一个阅历如此丰富的人却又退回到部落主义，即使在具备全球意识之后也是如此，我很悲哀。我没兴趣捍卫或赞扬民族主义。我鄙视爱国主义。这个世界上没有一个国家值得如此多的赞扬。保重，也许试着在你的人生中多为其他生命着想一点。
编辑：我还注意到你称我的言论为“侮辱”。这让我严重怀疑你的旅行经历或受教育程度，因为如果你真的见多识广，这逻辑跳跃未免太大了。
 
Outside_Ingenuity731
likes: 2
Renee Good was a white 37 yo woman.
She was a wife and a mother
She was trying to leave the area due to ICE arriving and was waving for them to get out the way so she could leave.
There was a doctor on site attempting to help and ICE held him at gunpoint, so he couldn’t provide any assistance
Her wife was also in the car with her.
People on site also claimed they saw stuffed animals on the ground that fell out of her glovebox that she kept in there for her son.
I'm sorry you're a grown man but has mentality of an autistic child. "Nothing" means in your book is that a drop of a peanut is a justified reason to magdump people right?
 
Renee Good 是一位 37 岁的白人女性。
她是妻子，也是母亲。
由于 ICE 的到来，她正试图离开该地区，并挥手示意他们让路以便离开。
现场有一名医生试图提供帮助，但 ICE 用枪指着他，导致他无法提供任何援助。
她的妻子当时也在车上。
现场还有人声称看到地上有毛绒玩具，那是她放在手套箱里给儿子的，掉了出来。
很遗憾你是个成年人却有着自闭症儿童的心态。在你的字典里，“没什么”的意思是指掉一粒花生就是把人打成筛子的正当理由，对吗？
 
spontaneous_quench
likes: -11
Really is someone was hitting a cop in your country with a car the cop isn't allowed to defend himself?
 
说真的，如果有人在你们国家开车撞警察，难道不允许警察自卫吗？
 
M0bysan
likes: 7
The woman was attempting to drive away from the cop not driving at the cop. He shot her through the side window. And no, in my country this wouldn’t be possible - the cop wouldn’t my be entitled to justify shooting her. Someone else in the thread suggested these guys were brown coats - and that’s what they are - thugs with badges and weapons.
 
那个女人是试图驾车*远离*警察，而不是*冲向*警察。他从侧窗向她开了枪。不，在我的国家这是不可能的——警察无权为此射杀她。帖子里有人暗示这些人是“褐衣党”（纳粹冲锋队），他们就是——一群带着徽章和武器的暴徒。
 
prostheticweiner
likes: -2
What happened before this. Something clearly led to this altercation being filmed, but obviously occurred prior to this recording started. If the driver had just tried running one of them over, I'd shoot too if I were in his position.
 
这之前发生了什么？显然有些事情导致了这次冲突被拍摄下来，但这显然发生在录像开始之前。如果司机刚刚试图碾过他们中的一个，如果我在他的位置，我也会开枪。
 
soggychipbutty
likes: 3
What possible series of events do you think you could invent that would make a 37 yo widowed mother a reasonable threat against an armed task force?  A scenario that would justify her getting dexed.  Not only that, a situation that would result in the aforementioned task force actively blocking medical aid?
 
你能编造出什么样的一连串事件，能让一位37岁的丧偶母亲对一支武装特遣队构成合理的威胁？什么样的情况能证明将她“删除”（杀害）是正当的？不仅如此，什么样的情况会导致上述特遣队主动阻挠医疗援助？
 
DiscussionSharp1407
likes: 3
>What possible series of events do you think you could invent that would make a 37 yo widowed mother a reasonable threat
A 2 ton SUV
 
>你能编造出什么样的一连串事件，能让一位37岁的丧偶母亲构成合理的威胁
一辆2吨重的SUV。
 
soggychipbutty
likes: 1
If you’ve seen the video from all angles and had the ability to think without bias, you would know that she was backing up and turning away from the officer in order to flee. He shot her through her driver window after multiple attempts to open the door and yelling “get the fuck out of the car.” Even if we were to accept your assertion that she was trying to harm the officer with her vehicle does that warrant a bullet to the head? Does that warrant the officers blocking any aid to her after the shooting?
 
如果你看过各个角度的视频并且有能力不带偏见地思考，你就会知道她当时正在倒车并转身远离警察以便逃跑。他在多次试图打开车门并大喊“他妈的滚下车”之后，隔着驾驶座车窗射杀了她。即使我们接受你的说法，即她试图用车辆伤害警察，这够得上直接朝头部开一枪吗？这够得上警察在枪击后阻止对她的任何援助吗？
 
Hot-Remote-4948
likes: 2
Their own guidelines say not to get in front of the vehicle and that deadly force can't be used if it's possible to take other action - he stepped out of harm's way and THEN shot her from a 90° angle - and that deadly force can't be used just to stop someone fleeing.
 
他们自己的指导方针规定不要站在车辆前方，如果可以采取其他行动则不能使用致命武力——他避开了危险区域，*然后*从90度角射杀了她——而且不能仅仅为了阻止某人逃跑而使用致命武力。
 
Master_Bief
likes: -6
Nah it's fine. This shit only really effects the terminally online and illegals. Everything else is just business as usual.
 
不，没关系。这种破事只会真正影响那些整天泡在网上的人和非法移民。其他一切都照常进行。
 
DrDroid
likes: 5
“First they came for the terminally online…”
Wake the fuck up dude.
 
“起初他们针对那些整天泡在网上的人……”
他妈的醒醒吧，伙计。
 
ThomasCro
likes: 10
Dude said the murder of a person is business as usual. He has the privilege to say that because in this incident it wasn't his own mother that died.
 
这家伙说杀人是常有的事。他有特权这么说，因为在这次事件中死的不是他自己的母亲。
 
soscotian3
likes: 349
Shoots her then runs away like a true coward
 
射杀了她然后像个真正的懦夫一样逃跑。
 
LiveTheDream2026
likes: 83
Glad someone else noticed it too.  This comment  should be towards the top. No one approached the lady who was shot to close the scene or render aid because they are all p...s (aka cats).
COWARD who decided to pull the trigger did not even have the decency to see the victiim.  He needs to be removed AND prosecuted....I hope his job does not cover for his illegal actions.  He was trigger happy from the start.  You can clearly see it.
 
很高兴其他人也注意到了这一点。这条评论应该被顶上去。没有一个人走近那位被枪杀的女士去封锁现场或提供援助，因为他们都是怂包。
那个决定扣动扳机的懦夫甚至没有体面地去看看受害者。他需要被撤职并受到起诉……我希望他的工作单位不会包庇他的非法行为。他从一开始就扳机扣得很快。你能清楚地看到这一点。
 
StainlessSteelCup
likes: -26
As soon as the car crashes there’s an officer running towards and after it. What you’re saying is obxtively false.
Also, why would a police officer in any country try to chase a car on foot…?
 
车一撞毁，就有一名警官跑向并追赶它。你所说的在客观上是错误的。
另外，为什么任何国家的警察会试图徒步追赶汽车……？
 
remosiracha
likes: 19
It was a fucking civilian that ran to the car. None of the ICE thugs did anything. Again one of them calmly walked over but by the time the person filming it went to the car nobody was even there helping.
 
跑到车边的是个他妈的平民。ICE 暴徒什么都没做。同样，其中一个人镇定地走了过去，但当拍摄者走到车边时，根本没人在那里帮忙。
 
StainlessSteelCup
likes: -17
I disagree respectfully. An officer was running after the car clearly in other angles. They secured the scene and called EMS. I’m sorry we don’t agree on this
 
恕我不敢苟同。从其他角度可以清楚看到一名警官在追车。他们保护了现场并呼叫了急救服务。很抱歉我们在这一点上无法达成一致。
 
TheShredda
likes: -1
Do you at least agree the ICE bitch murdered her in cold blood?
 
那你至少同意那个 ICE 的贱人冷血地谋杀了她吗？
 
StainlessSteelCup
likes: -3
I believe the use of force was reckless and the LEOs involved were not trained properly. I do not believe this is “murder” as that would require an intentional desire to kill which wasn’t the intent here.
 
我认为武力的使用是鲁莽的，涉事执法人员没有受过适当训练。我不认为这是“谋杀”，因为谋杀需要有蓄意杀人的意图，而这里并非如此。
 
TheShredda
likes: 3
Agree to disagree, that man wanted to kill someone
 
保留不同意见，那个人就是想杀人。
 
Avanni24
likes: 1
shooting someone in the face isn't intending to kill them
 
朝某人的脸开枪还不叫打算杀人？
 
darr3456
likes: 11
They didn't even provide aid! Even police officers do that to every single criminal
 
他们甚至没有提供急救！就算是警察也会对每一个罪犯那样做的。
 
ytuhs
likes: 105
Murder. Oh and release the Epstein files.
 
这就是谋杀。噢还有，公布爱泼斯坦的文件。
 
PiecesOfRing
likes: 5
I'm convinced that they're just making that shit up as they go along at this point as a distraction...
 
我确信他们现在只是随口编造那些狗屎来转移注意力……
 
Tyler_Durden_Says
likes: 0
They were released and nobody cares
 
文件已经公布了，但没人在乎。
 
ytuhs
likes: 1
You mean all those pages with big black squares? Nah we want the full unredacted stuff.
 
你是说那些满是大黑块的页面吗？不，我们想要完整的未删减内容。
 
Laughingbuddha77
likes: 63
Dude walked in front of the car then was almost clear and stepped back towards the car to make this shit happen.
WTF
 
那家伙走到车前，本来几乎已经避开了，又退回车边，故意让这破事发生。
搞什么鬼。
 
ChuCHuPALX
likes: 6
This is what the skinny kids at woke protests fantasize about doing when body blocking.
 
这就是那些在觉醒派抗议活动中的瘦弱孩子们在用身体阻挡时幻想做的事情。
 
My_Favourite_Pen
likes: 331
this isnt a tragedy, its federally sanctioned murder by psychopaths who dont have to answer to  other authorities. America literally has its own browncoats and they are being cheered on and defended by a significant amount of conservatives.
 
这不是悲剧，这是由不必向其他当局负责的精神变态者实施的联邦政府批准的谋杀。美国实际上有自己的“褐衣党”，并且受到大量保守派的欢呼和捍卫。
 
HansChrst1
likes: 131
Isn't this why Americans have guns? So that they can fight back against the government when it becomes tyrannical?
 
这不就是美国人拥有枪支的原因吗？为了当政府变得暴虐时，他们可以反击？
 
Sunwolfy
likes: 65
Takes bravery to face tyranny. Just having a gun won't make you brave.
 
面对暴政需要勇气。仅仅拥有一把枪并不会让你变得勇敢。
 
redditismylawyer
likes: 8
Hahaha! HAHAHAHA!!!! Good one! Americans actually defending freedom? Wooohoho! That’s rich!
Wait *checks notes* okay, good. The dead person wasn’t part of the billionaire club, so it doesn’t matter.
Oh, and since this is America, your name is now on a list!
 
哈哈哈！哈哈哈哈！！！说得好！美国人真的会捍卫自由？呜呼呼！这太荒谬了！
等等 *检查笔记* 好吧，没事了。死者不是亿万富翁俱乐部的成员，所以没关系。
噢，既然这是美国，你的名字现在已经被列入名单了！
 
 
OtherUserCharges
likes: -24
No, I have Nothing good to say about ice, but I also don’t have an issue with law enforcement shooting someone who just tried to run them over. Screw ice, but that doesn’t give you the right to run them over.
I wish cops used less lethal force for sure, but this woman got herself killed. Seriously, trying to flee from the police is always a very dumb decision.
 
不，我对 ICE 没什么好话可说，但我也不反对执法人员射杀那些试图碾压他们的人。去他妈的 ICE，但这并不意味着你有权碾压他们。
我当然希望警察少用致命武力，但这个女人是自找死路。说真的，试图从警察手中逃跑总是一个非常愚蠢的决定。
 
PremiumUsername69420
likes: 11
Except that they’re very clearly not turned towards the person in an attempt to run them over as you so claim.
They are trying to flee from someone attempting to open their door.
Like, did you even watch the video??
 
只不过，很明显轮子并没有像你声称的那样转向那个人试图碾压他们。
她们是在试图逃离那个企图打开车门的人。
就是说，你到底看没看视频？？
 
Average_Random_Bitch
likes: 2
They fucking say, get the fuck out of the way, or fucking move.
I can't stand listening to it again because I started screaming MURDERER and SHAME with the cameraperson. And sobbing.
Fuck these motherfuckers.
Also? RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES,  BITCHES
 
他们他妈的说，他妈的让开，或者滚开。
我受不了再听一遍了，因为我和摄像的人一起尖叫“杀人犯”和“无耻”。然后痛哭。
去他妈的这些混蛋。
还有？把爱泼斯坦的文件公布出来，婊子们。
 
OtherUserCharges
likes: 1
Did you watch the video? There’s a person in front of her. Yes she’s trying to flee, but they surrounded her car. Just cause she wasn’t trying to run him over doesn’t mean that if she accelerated that she wouldn’t have. I hate ice, but she should have not tried to flee when her car was surrounded.
 
你看过视频吗？她面前有一个人。是的，她试图逃跑，但他们包围了她的车。仅仅因为她不是故意想撞他，并不意味着如果她加速，她就不会撞到他。我讨厌 ICE，但当她的车被包围时，她不应该试图逃跑。
 
PremiumUsername69420
likes: 2
Look at where the wheels are pointing and you’ll understand everything you need to know about intent and desires.
 
看看车轮指向哪里，你就明白你需要知道的关于意图和想法的一切。
 
OtherUserCharges
likes: 0
And if she didn’t intend to run him over but did would that excuse her actions? She would have hit him had he not moved away, you cannot accelerate into a cop (or whatever ice is).
 
如果她无意撞倒他，但确实撞到了，这能为她的行为开脱吗？如果他不躲开，她就会撞到他，你不能开车加速撞向警察（或者 ICE 这种东西）。
 
Elebrium
likes: 8
They are not trying to run over anyone
 
她们并不想碾压任何人。
 
OtherUserCharges
likes: 1
Not trying to run someone over doesn’t mean that they couldn’t have run someone over. Ice and cops both suck, but if you get arrested trying to flee through them in a car is always a bad decision.
 
不想撞倒别人并不意味着他们不可能撞倒别人。ICE 和警察都很烂，但如果被捕，试图开车穿过他们逃跑总是一个糟糕的决定。
 
Grumpy_Mumble
likes: 2
Look at the other footage. He was to the side of the vehicle and shot initially through the windscreen. She was trying to drive towards the side of him as shown by the direction of the wheels on the car. This is trigger happy ass hat murder under the guise of immigration control.
 
看看其他的录像。他当时在车的一侧，第一枪是穿过挡风玻璃射击的。从车轮的方向可以看出，她正试图从他身侧开过去。这就是打着移民管制的幌子，由一群动不动就开枪的混蛋实施的谋杀。
 
BigMe420365
likes: 108
They will not deescalate they’re looking for an excuse to shoot.  RIP to the lady that lost her life.
 
他们不会缓和局势，他们只是在寻找开枪的借口。愿这位失去生命的女士安息。
 
synth_mania
likes: 27
The best we can hope for now, to honor her sacrifice, is to get this in front of the eyes of as many people as possible. Everyone needs to know what's happening.
 
为了纪念她的牺牲，我们现在所能寄予的最好希望就是让尽可能多的人看到这一点。每个人都需要知道正在发生什么。
 
guitgk
likes: -13
It's not a sacrifice. We don't need anyone thinking this is a useful loss of life. It's privilege meets FAFO against people too amped up on totalitarianism permission. That said, it's absolutely tragic and use wisdom to not get yourself in this situation. Yes that's victim blaming. Get off your privilege and get illegals out. Truly sad.
 
这不是牺牲。我们不需要任何人认为这是一种有意义的生命损失。这就是“特权”遇上了“不作死就不会死”，而对方是一群拿着极权主义尚方宝剑、过于亢奋的人。虽说如此，这绝对是悲剧性的，请运用智慧不要让自己陷入这种境地。是的，这就是受害者有罪论。放下你的特权，把非法移民赶出去。真可悲。
 
synth_mania
likes: 9
I mean, I agree on the sad part. Just about any loss of life is.
But do you think resisting arrest (legal or not, we'll never know how that arrest would stand up in court) or blocking a roadway or attempting to flee are justification for execution? I don't think so.
 
我的意思是，我同意可悲的部分。几乎任何生命的逝去都是如此。
但你认为拒捕（无论合法与否，我们永远不知道那一次逮捕在法庭上是否站得住脚）或堵塞道路或试图逃跑是可以成为当场处决的理由吗？我不这么认为。
 
LogicSoDifferent
likes: -23
What are your thoughts on the unarmed woman who was shot on Jan 6?
 
您对1月6日（国会山骚乱）被枪杀的那位手无寸铁的女子有何看法？
 
My_Favourite_Pen
likes: 21
The same unarmed woman in a mob (with  firearms/weapons) that was currently breaking through a makeshift barricade and ignoring the warnings of the capitol police who were literally the last line of defence for government officials fleeing to safety behind them?
That unarmed woman?
 
你是说那个身处（携带枪支/武器的）暴徒群中，当时正在冲破临时路障，无视国会警察警告的“手无寸铁”的女人？而那些警察实际上是掩护身后政府官员逃往安全地带的最后一道防线？
是那个手无寸铁的女人吗？
 
Hazeeverest
likes: 9
Ashley Babbit? Not only did she have a knife on her, she had no reason to be going through that barricade. This murderer stepped into harm's way, pulled out his handgun, stepped out of the way, and then shot a fleeing woman. Scum.
 
阿什莉·巴比特？她不仅身上带着刀，而且她没有理由穿过那道路障。而这个凶手（指本案ICE探员）主动踏入危险之中，拔出手枪，闪到一边，然后射杀了一名正在逃跑的妇女。人渣。
 
OtherUserCharges
likes: 0
Both people invited their own deaths. We can hate ice and we can hate Jan 6ers, but don’t pretend this woman didn’t try to drive through the guy with the gun.  Just cause we hate ice doesn’t mean the woman killed was a good guy. Her death was a completely needless one, it was a very foolish thing to try to flee from people who have your car surrounded with guns.
 
这两个人都是自寻死路。我们可以讨厌 ICE，我们也可以讨厌1月6日的暴乱者，但不要假装这个女人没有试图开车冲过那个持枪的家伙。仅仅因为我们讨厌 ICE 并不意味着被杀的女人就是好人。她的死完全是不必要的，试图逃离那些用枪包围你车子的人是一件非常愚蠢的事情。
 
Hazeeverest
likes: 2
I invite you to replay the video and pause when the ICE officer fires his first shot. His entire body is clear of the vehicle, and the vehicle is turning the opposite way. Sure, she made a bad mistake. But pay her life for it? Nah.
 
我请你重放视频，并在 ICE 官员开第一枪时暂停。他的整个身体都避开了车辆，并且车辆正在向相反的方向转弯。当然，她犯了一个严重的错误。但她需要为此付出生命的代价吗？不至于。
 
90_oi
likes: 53
And MAGA pieces of shit will claim this shooting was justified. A masked person with tactical gear and a gun approaches your car and tries to forcibly enter it. Of course you'd run away!
If you still don't see an excuse to grab a gun and fight back after this, there is no hope for you
 
然后 MAGA 那群狗屎会声称这次枪击是合理的。一个戴着战术装备和枪支的蒙面人接近你的车并试图强行进入。你当然会逃跑！
如果在此之后你仍然觉得没有理由拿起枪进行反击，那你就没救了。
 
remosiracha
likes: 16
All unmarked vehicles with lights. Anyone can install lights on their car and buy tactical gear. We have the right to defend ourselves.
 
全是带警灯的无标记车辆。任何人都可以在他们的车上安装警灯并购买战术装备。我们有权保卫自己。
 
StanPot
likes: 25
The very party who claims they want small government and quote the “the scariest thing any American can hear is ‘I’m from the government and Im here to help’ “ quote from Regan like the gospel, are perfectly fine with masked officers executing people they SUSPECT of being here illegally.
I cant wait for us to wake up from this nightmare.
 
那个声称想要“小政府”、把里根的名言“任何美国人能听到的最可怕的话就是‘我来自政府，我是来帮忙的’”奉为圭臬的政党，却完全可以接受蒙面警官随意处决他们**怀疑**非法居留的人。
我迫不及待地想让我们从这场噩梦中醒来。
 
Average_Random_Bitch
likes: 11
I've never been more sleepless
Also? RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES
 
我从未如此失眠过。
还有？公布爱泼斯坦的文件。
 
Thormod76
likes: 26
So the brown shirts are level up... It's going well In The land of the not so free...
 
看来“褐衫军”（纳粹冲锋队）升级了……在不那么自由的土地上，一切进展顺利……
 
AncientLion
likes: 26
What a shitty country.
 
这个国家烂完了。
 
Necronorris
likes: 8
Im so confused about what even led to this in the first place. Did something happen to prompt that guy to try and open her door? Is she just u turning and icey bois got in their feelings? Seems senseless to me that this even happened.
 
我很困惑到底是什么导致了这一切。发生了什么事促使那家伙试图打开她的车门吗？她只是在掉头，然后那些 ICE 小子就破防了吗？这事的发生对我来说完全无法理解。
 
I-like-cheeese
likes: -5
Same, she looks in the wrong yet everyone is defending in the comments
 
同感，她看起来做错了，但评论里的每个人都在为她辩护。
 
NonCreditableHuman
likes: 124
She did not try and run him over at all, fuck outta here with that excuse you Nazi sympathizers. This was straight up murder.
 
她根本没有试图撞他，带着那个借口滚远点，你们这些纳粹同情者。这简直就是谋杀。
 
desmaddin
likes: -32
Nah, he just happened to be in front of her car when she pushed the pedal.
 
不，当她踩下油门时，他恰好在她的车前。
 
MarshalLawTalkingGuy
likes: 53
But where was he when he fired the shots? Out of the way and aiming through her driver’s side window. This isn’t self defense. He was clear of harm and he shot her dead.
 
但他开枪时在哪里？他已经离开了车前，并透过驾驶员侧的车窗瞄准。这不是自卫。他已经脱离了危险，却仍然开枪打死了她。