中国稀土行业的霸主地位是否终将受到挑战？

@tomsmith4066
Thanks China for saving us from ev madness

感谢中国把我们从对电动汽车的疯狂中拯救出来。

@ds-kj8fq
If you cannot compete go to school and learn engineering man what's going on a lot of countries moving away from gas so don't plan to sell gas vehicle to the global South anymore or even some global North

如果你无法参与竞争，那就去学校学习工程学。现在很多国家都在远离天然气，所以不要再打算向全球南方国家甚至一些全球北方国家出售天然气汽车了。

@raylee5030
What is suitable for one country is not necessary good for another. For instant, when the West withdrew from Russia, Russia's automobile sector suddenly saw a big decline of Western autos. China came in not with EVs, but with ICE cars, as gasoline in Russia is about 1/3 the prices in EU.

适合一个国家的不一定适合另一个国家。比如，当西方从俄罗斯撤离时，俄罗斯的汽车行业突然出现了西方汽车的大幅下滑。从中国进来的不是电动汽车而是内燃机汽车，因为俄罗斯的汽油价格约为欧盟的1/3。

@hippocraticoaf8798
Putting large lithium batteries in cars is a wasteful idea besides being environmentally hazardous. Hopefully this ends the EV market and we can unleash higher efficient gas cars while working on sealants for hydrogen fuel cells.

在汽车上安装大型锂电池除了对环境造成危害外，也是一种浪费。希望这能终结电动汽车市场，让我们在研究氢燃料电池密封剂的同时推出更高效的汽油车。

@johnnylewis1585
Dear EV cars lovers!
A lots of people think swapping batteries is useless wrong and here’s why?
Here are the key points of a battery swap station.
1, battery degradation can swap it with a new pack.
2, people who lives in apartment no place to charge.
3, when winter season don’t want to get off car with sub-zero temperature same as rainy season.
4, for beautiful girls who drive EV charging cable too heavy don’t want to get theirs hands and feet dirty.
5, people who drive long distance with a choice to swap an upgrade battery can get longer ranges.
6, people who in hurry no time to wait for charging battery “like Uber, Lyft, or DiDi drivers.
7, so much benefits of battery swap technology many companies are joining with NIO Inc. CATL and DiDi just Joined.
8, people who want to upgrade their car battery to a higher Wat .. and so on.
There are endless benefits with battery swap-able EV isn’t it..

亲爱的电动汽车爱好者们！
很多人认为换电池没用，原因何在？
以下是换电站的要点。
1、电池退化可以更换新电池组。
2、住在公寓里的人没有地方充电。
3、就像在雨季一样，冬天时不想在零度以下的温度下车。
4、对于美女来说，电动车的充电线太重，她们不想弄脏手脚。
5、长途驾驶的人可以选择更换电池以获得更长的续航里程。
6、像Uber、Lyft 或滴滴司机这样赶时间没时间等电池充电的人。
7、换电技术的好处如此之多，许多公司都加入了蔚来公司的行列（宁德时代和滴滴出行刚刚加入）。
8、想要将汽车电池升级到更高瓦数的人......等等。
可更换电池的电动汽车有数不清的好处，不是吗？

@correctednews1463
Lithium was dirt cheap until some lab discovered its advantage in batteries. Since then, the price is 6 to 10 times higher with no end in sight.
The other elements who's price shot up due to the sudden explosive demand are cobalt and nickel.
The arrival of EVs has effected the price of any product that uses cobalt or nickel.
These metals are used to make special alloys that are far stronger, heat resistant, wear resistant, corrosion resistant, etc. Nickel is the primary material used in chrome plating.
So there are MANY products that are a LOT more expensive now due to the demand caused by EV batteries.
Kitchen knives, stainless steel cookware, tubs in washing machines or dishwashers, even all the stuff in your silverware drawer. More expensive now due to EVs.
And even if the product itself is not made of a special steel alloy alloy, the tools used to produce it most likely are.

在一些实验室发现锂元素在电池中的优势之前，锂的价格一直很低。从那时起，锂的价格翻了6到10倍，而且还不见底。
钴和镍等其他元素的价格也因突然出现的爆炸性需求而飙升。
电动汽车的出现影响了所有使用钴或镍的产品的价格。
这些金属被用来制造特殊的合金，其强度、耐热性、耐磨性、耐腐蚀性等都要强得多。镍是镀铬的主要材料。
因此，由于电动汽车电池的需求，现在很多产品的价格都贵了很多。
菜刀、不锈钢炊具、洗衣机或洗碗机中的盆子，甚至包括你的银器抽屉里的所有东西，现在都因为电动汽车而变得更加昂贵。
即使产品本身不是由特殊钢合金制成，生产它的工具也很可能是。

@shencheanglow3726
It us not true China ban the export of precious rare metals. It allow export through permit. Importer must apply and be uated whether importer harms China's interest. Neutral importer should have no problem getting these materials if their xountry meant no harm to China. Fair and square.

中国禁止贵重稀有金属出口是假的。它允许通过许可证出口，进口商必须提出申请并接受是否损害中国利益的评估。如果中立的进口商对中国没有恶意，那么他们获得这些材料应该不成问题。非常公平公正。

@correctednews1463
Recycling car batteries is very easy. Recycling EV batteries is extremely difficult and cost prohibitive.
It is not helping EVs sales to subsidize them by $7,500. That just makes an unaffordable car into an unaffordable car.
It would be a lot smarter for the government to put that money into funding research on recycling current lithium batteries and developing new kinds of batteries.
There are already much safer batteries, cheaper, more powerful, lighter, instant charging, etc. They just need to combine these features into ONE battery. That will require a LOT of money. That is why governments underwrite research.
Trying to cram EVs down people's throats with mandates or shame people with lables for not caring about global warming or making the cars a little bit cheaper is NOT going to work.

回收汽车电池非常容易，但回收电动车的电池却非常困难，而且成本高昂。
为电动汽车提供7500美元的补贴无助于电动汽车的销售，这只会让买不起的汽车变成买不起的汽车。
更明智的做法是政府将这笔钱用于资助回收现有锂电池和开发新型电池的研究。
现在已经有了更安全、更便宜、更强劲、更轻、可即时充电的电池等等，他们只需要将这些功能整合到一个电池中，而这需要大量的资金，这就是政府应该资助研究的原因。
无论是试图用强制措施把电动汽车塞进人们的嘴里，还是用标签羞辱人们不关心全球变暖或者让汽车更便宜一点都是行不通的。

@jacintochua6885
Why is every undertaking by China callrd a warv?
In US, its quite common: war against poverty, war against drug, war against hunger. Thsts fine. It's the choice of American politicians.
But don'r use the same tetminology on others.
Making and selling EVs ia a wsr effort.

为什么中国的每次行动都被称为战争？
在美国，这很常见：反贫困战争、反毒品战争、反饥饿战争。这很好，这是美国政治家的选择。
但不要把同样的术语用在别人身上。
生产和销售电动汽车是一项社会责任。

@robertkubrick3738
I think it started with the Japanese saying that Business is War By Other Means.

我认为这源于日本人的一句名言："商业是通过其他手段进行的战争"。

@frankmarkovcijr5459
Cars are a stupid form of transportation. Nevermind the waste of resources in most cities parking is a major problem. People drive like the idiots that they are. The cost to society of car accidents is enormous. I have had my Sportster for 25 years and my Triumph Tr-6 with a hard tail and magneto for 40 years. That's green ���� transportation. You can build a motorcycle ��️ and run it for 50,000 miles just on the energy to make a small car. Plus l never worry about my motorcycles catching fire ��. When l die my vintage motorcycles will be owned by new owners. Very green as well.

汽车是一种愚蠢的交通工具。在大多数城市，停车是个大问题，浪费资源就更不用说了。人们开车就像白痴一样，车祸给社会造成的损失是巨大的。我的Sportster已经开了25年了，我的Triumph Tr-6硬尾翼和磁电机也开了40年。这就是绿色交通工具。你可以用制造一辆小汽车的能量来制造一辆摩托车并让它行驶50,000英里。另外，我从不担心我的摩托车会着火。我死后，我的老式摩托车将由新主人拥有，它也非常环保。

@angelounson2175
No one has really touched on the fact that very little investment is made towards recycling car batteries. EV are not the solution.

没有人真正触及这样一个事实，即对回收汽车电池的投资非常少。所以电动汽车不是解决方案。

@kuhrd
We already have the technology to recycle these batteries but remember that we must follow the proper order of Reduce, Reuse, and finally Recycle. Most of the used EV batteries are on the second hand market making their way into home power walls and the like. They will eventually end up needing to be recycled but that is still only a small amount at the moment and we can expect that to increase as time goes on till we are recycling lithium batteries like we do lead acid batteries where they are nearly 100% recycleable.

我们已经掌握了回收这些电池的技术，但请记住，我们必须遵循"减量"、"再利用 "和"最终回收"的正确顺序。大多数废旧电动车的电池都进入了二手市场，被用于家庭电源墙等。它们最终会被回收，但目前还只是一小部分，随着时间的推移，我们可以预见锂电池的回收率会越来越高，直到我们像回收铅酸电池一样回收锂电池，它们几乎可以100%回收。

@dranzacspartan8002
It's not correct to say that Chinese EV's are in competition with Tesla. Elon Musk is a South African International Entrepreneur and he has a Mega-facture in Shanghai, China (as well as in other countries). His Shanghai Mega-factory manufactures more Tesla EV's than any of his other Mega-factories around the world, to the point he's exporting his Shanghai Tesla's. So, you then have the ridiculous statement that the Chinese EV's are in competition with its Chinese Tesla. WTF??

说中国电动车与特斯拉竞争是不正确的。埃隆-马斯克是一位南非籍国际企业家，他在中国上海（以及其他国家）拥有一家大型工厂。他在上海的大型工厂生产的特斯拉电动车比他在世界各地的其他大型工厂生产的都要多，甚至他还出口他在上海生产的特斯拉电动车。因此，这才有了中国电动车与中国特斯拉竞争的荒谬说法。什么鬼？

@ralphzoombeenie2330
All Tesla 3 and RHD Y sold in Australia, NZ and Asia are made in China as are Volvos, Dacia, Polestar, MG ,GM produce many EVs in China as do BMW

所有在澳大利亚、新西兰和亚洲销售的特斯拉3RHD Y都是中国制造的，沃尔沃、达契亚、极星、名爵也是中国制造的。

@dranzacspartan8002
It's all OK. China is not an aggressive country. They have no military bases around the world, unlike USA that has over 800 Military bases around the world, and is expanding.
China does not send it Warships or Warplanes cruising and flying up and down other country's maritime borders, unlike USA that has does this on a weekly bases along China's maritime borders.
Now it you were talking about USA, then that would be a concern.

无妨。中国不是一个咄咄逼人的国家，他们在全世界没有军事基地，不像美国在全世界有800多个军事基地，而且还在不断增多。
中国不会派遣军舰或战机在其他国家的海上边界巡航和飞行，不像美国每周都会在中国的海上边界巡航和飞行。
如果你说的是美国，那就值得关注了。

@kuhrd
We also have to remember that the majority of the Chinese EV manufacturers are still trying to figure out how to make an EV at such a low cost while not starting on fire constantly. The number of EV fires vs total EV's on the road in China is far higher than other countries like the US, UK and many of the European countries.
We also have to realize that China may mine and process a large amount of rare earth minerals but much of the mining is happening outside of China in other countries and being imported to China to meet the high demand.
China's own EV market has been slowing down since 2023 and it is expected that the slowdown will continue as more of its domestic sales slow due to many reasons from public concern over the economy and day to day monetary problems to the Chinese government phasing out many incentives and subsidies to the EV manufacturers. Currently, China has millions of EV's that were registered by the auto makers rotting in vehicle graveyards as they fall apart and rust away rather than being sold at a price where the average Chinese citizen could afford one. This has all been done to save face and to make China look great in the global EV market.

我们还必须记住，大多数中国电动车制造商仍在努力摸索如何以如此低的成本制造电动车，同时又不会经常起火。在中国，电动汽车起火的次数与上路行驶的电动汽车总数之比远远高于美国、英国和许多欧洲国家。
我们还必须认识到中国可能会开采和加工大量的稀土矿，但大部分开采都是在中国以外的其他国家进行并进口到中国以满足其高需求的。
自2023年以来，中国自己的电动汽车市场一直在放缓，由于公众对经济和日常货币问题的担忧以及中国政府逐步取消对电动汽车制造商的许多奖励和补贴等多种原因，预计随着更多国内销售放缓，这种放缓将持续下去。目前，中国有数百万辆由汽车制造商注册的电动汽车由于散架和生锈而腐烂在汽车墓地里，而不是以普通中国公民买得起的价格出售。这一切都是为了挽回面子，让中国在全球电动汽车市场上显得更有面子。

@lephtovermeet
You got many things right but a few things are misleading. China doesn't have any magical battery or other EV related tech. Their cars are lower quality to the point where you can easily find videos of them expoding and spontaneously combusting. In the typical Chinese fashion, the majority of their tech is dated and stolen from foreign rivals. Also, the Chinese EV and battery sectors being unfairly subsidized is starting to hurt them more than benefit them. It's already locked then out of the north american market and the EU is slowly ebbing towards significant tarrifs and controls as well. Third, while they dominate rare earth production right now, there are plenty of resources elsewhere, so as you stated it will delay and take time to setup new supply chains, but it's not like they just own all of the resources.

你说对了很多事，但有几件事是误导。中国没有神奇的电池或其他电动汽车相关技术，他们的汽车质量较差以至于你可以很容易地找到汽车爆炸和自燃的视频。按照典型的中国方式，他们的大部分技术都是过时的，是从外国竞争对手那里偷来的。此外，中国的电动车和电池行业受到了不公平的补贴，这对他们来说已经开始是弊大于利。中国已经被北美市场拒之门外，而欧盟也在慢慢实行大幅关税和管制。第三，虽然他们现在主导着稀土生产，但其他地方也有很多资源，所以正如你所说，虽然建立新的供应链会延迟并需要时间，但并不只有他们拥有所有的资源。

@BahamaSmooth
You act as if China is the only location for this material. SMH��

你说得好像只有中国才有这种材料似的。

@JCSY1
These raw materials need some serious processing before it can be used. If you can't produce the finish goods at a much cheaper prices and in huge quantity then it is already game over for you even if you don't admit it.

这些原材料需要经过严格的加工才能使用。如果你无法以便宜得多的价格大量生产成品，那么即使你不承认，你也已经玩完了。

@oluwalayomiolatunbi885
See I love China and the Chinese People, don't let us Sound like a Competition and the Downfall of Another, it is China Time for Technological Advancement let others Learn from them.
Please, so we don't start another rub off.
Let the Chinese EV Research and Development learn from the Pros and cons of Tesla in the US.
In Accidents, EV is Most Dangerous due to the Batteries very High Inflammation.
Those are the results we need from All EV Companies, not Competition.
The Companies are All making Profits.

我爱中国和中国人民，不要让我们听起来像一场竞争和另一个国家的衰落，这是中国技术进步的时代，让其他人向他们学习。
求求你，别让我们再一次“擦枪走火”。
让中国的电动车研发从美国特斯拉的利弊中吸取教训。
在事故中，电动汽车最危险的地方是电池极易起火。
我们需要的是所有电动汽车公司的成果而不是竞争。
这些公司都在赚钱。

@philiptan2051
China is already far ahead in EV technology such as lithium processing and battery manufacturing when the west and Japanese were starting to think about producing EVs decades ago. To think about lithium processing in 2024 is just too late. It is logical that China has a far more advanced supply chain in EV manufacturing now. BYD has become the largest EV manufacturer in the world because of its vision and hard work. CEO’s are paid lots of money for their vision for the next 20 years. It is obvious that China’s entrepreneurs have a better long term planning than their counterparts in the west. What’s coming in the next 20-30 years? That’s the question.

几十年前，当西方和日本开始考虑生产电动汽车时，中国已经在电动汽车技术（如锂加工和电池制造）方面遥遥领先。在2024年才考虑锂加工问题实在是太晚了。顺理成章的是中国目前在电动汽车制造方面拥有更为先进的供应链。比亚迪之所以能成为全球最大的电动汽车制造商，靠的是其远见卓识和辛勤努力，其首席执行官们为了未来20年的愿景而获得高薪。显然，中国的企业家比西方的企业家更有长远规划。未来20-30年会发生什么？这就是问题所在。

@andypeek8151
It’s the best thing China can do to save the world, stop making ev batteries, get them off the roads, well done *** thank you.

这是中国为拯救世界所能做的最好的事情，停止生产电动汽车电池，让它们远离道路，中国***做得好，谢谢。

@ralphzoombeenie2330
Sit in your garage with the motor running for an hour in an ICE car; you may change your mind.

开着内燃机汽车在车库里开上一个小时，你可能会改变主意。

@robertkubrick3738
Charges from Home Solar at NIGHT because you live in Mom's basement and never had a day job.

晚上从家用太阳能充电，那是因为你住在妈妈的地下室，从来没有做过白天的工作。

@ralphzoombeenie2330
@robertkubrick3738 What a childish response. Have you heard of storage batteries and for people who don't do 9 to 5 jobs, home solar works great. Some of us earn well above average with zero debt. How about you?

@robertkubrick3738 真是幼稚的回答。你听说过蓄电池吗？对于那些朝九晚五的人来说，家用太阳能发电的效果很好。我们中有些人的收入远高于平均水平，而且没有负债。你呢？

@robertkubrick3738
@ralphzoombeenie2330 Charging a battery from a battery? Putting wear and tear on both? The efficiency losses. The Solar array would have to be at least 3 times the normal house array to charge a car battery and still provide ANY power to the house. You really should do some study before you reply to this. Figure out how long it would take a normal household solar array, even under great conditions to charge a 70KWH battery IF THE HOUSE DRAWS NO POWER AT ALL. You are welcome to your opinions, you still have to obey the same Laws of PHYSICS as the rest of us.

@ralphzoombeenie2330 用电池给电池充电？对两者都造成折旧？还有效率上的损失。太阳能电池阵必须至少是普通房屋电池阵的三倍才能在为汽车蓄电池充电的同时为房屋提供电能。在回答这个问题之前，你真的应该做一些研究。你可以算一算，如果房子完全不耗电，即使在很好的条件下，普通家用太阳能电池阵也需要多长时间才能为70千瓦时的蓄电池充电。欢迎你发表自己的观点，但你仍然必须和我们一样遵守物理定律。

@ralphzoombeenie2330
@robertkubrick3738 Rarely do I directly charge from the home battery, My charging is mainly daylight hours. Like most people a 10kWh charge takes care of my daily requirements. Interstate travel is by air. Different needs for different people.
The technical details of my system were carefully engineered. Sure there are efficiency losses but with zero electricity charges in 14yrs and EV for 5yrs I'm happy. Battery life....time will tell

@robertkubrick3738 我很少直接用家里的电池充电，我主要是在白天充电。和大多数人一样，10千瓦时的充电量就能满足我的日常需求，我州际旅行主要是乘坐飞机。不同的人有不同的需求。
我的系统技术细节经过精心的设计。当然会有效率损失，但14年来零电费和5年的电动车使用让我很满意。电池寿命....，时间会证明一切。