印度政府：印度已超越美国和中国，拥有了世界上最大的公路网。印度网民：哪有路，全是坑！

No_Assist_3627
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Road bhale hi potholes se bhara ho

哪怕这路满是坑洼。

BorderNational2765
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Kya ye pothole vala road bhi usme counted hai ?

那些满是坑洼的路也算在里面了吗？

O-MrPhantomDeluxe-O
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Bs potholes wala nhi jo kacche sadak h wo bhi counted h aur india ke naye system ke hisab se agar koi 6 lane highway 1 km cover karta h to usse 6km maana jayega

别说有坑的了，就连那些土路也算进去了。而且按照印度的新算法，如果是一条1公里长的6车道高速公路，会被算作6公里。

BorderNational2765
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Arey highway ke barey may kuch mat bolo bhai… vo toh US ke roads se better hai

哎呀，兄弟，别说高速公路的坏话……那可是比美国的路还好呢。

Womb_Raider696
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Ah man, what can I say…I really love my country but it’s high time now under these corrupt officials and politicians. It’s time now that we should raise our voice for the good of our nation else they will keep most of our population living under delusion…rn criticizing them is what I can only do since I am not holding any gov office…but will work on it

唉，伙计，我能说什么呢……我真的很爱我的国家，但在这些腐败官员和政客的统治下，现在到了关键时刻。现在我们应该为了国家的利益大声疾呼，否则他们会让大部分民众继续生活在错觉中……既然我没有任何公职，目前我能做的只有批评他们……但我会努力争取的。

No_Assist_3627
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I think it's high time we pick up arms and weapons because we know nothing will happen through protests

我觉得是时候拿起武器了，因为我们都知道抗议根本没用。

Womb_Raider696
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That sounds extreme but….sadly …I agree
I once read somewhere - ‘Action is ignored and reaction is condemned’

这听起来很极端，但是……很遗憾……我同意。
我曾经在某处读到过——“由于（原本需要的）行动被无视，于是（随后的）反抗被谴责”。

911AirplanePilot
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Road me potholes
Potholes me road

路中有坑
坑中有路

Best_Party_4728
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Bhai gadha hai kya wo pothole wale reads nahi hai space technology wali roads hai ek dum moon ke surface jaise road hai tum logo ko kitna bhe de do bus complaint karni hai

兄弟，你是蠢驴吗？那不是有坑的路，那是运用了太空技术的路，跟月球表面一模一样。不管给你们什么，你们这些家伙只知道抱怨。

No_Assist_3627
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Sorry bhai lagta hai mai ek anti national porki hu

对不起兄弟，看来我是个反国家的“巴基斯坦猪”。

Best_Party_4728
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Koi bat nahi bhai galti insaan se he hoti agli bar aaise aunty national bat mat karna

没关系兄弟，人都会犯错，下次别再像个“阿姨”（Aunty National，讽刺Anti-national）一样说话了。

HolyGuiltyCrown
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i dont hove gf so i use potholes

我没有女朋友，所以我用路上的坑。

Falkun_X
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Went for quantity...not quality!

追求的是数量……而不是质量！

poinping
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Ribbed (I know technically it’s caved) for extra pleasure, it’s a feature

螺纹设计（我知道严格来说是凹陷的）是为了增加快感，这是一项功能。

v0id92
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Are bhai samjhe nahi tum, potholes mein road bhara hota hai.

哎呀兄弟，你没明白，是坑里填了点路。

bigdaddyinc
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Congress se to 70 saal mein pothole wala bhi nahi ban payi

国大党搞了70年，连这种带坑的路都造不出来。

museum-of-faults
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India has surpassed the us and China becoming the world's largest potholes network (with some road)

印度已超越美国和中国，成为世界上最大的坑洼网络（顺便带点路）。

herobhai69
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C mai last to last month ek engineering marvel bridge crash hua ( heavy corruption is suspected ) but didn't see a single C criticize it ulta unhone uss crash ko dbane ki puri koshish kri taki international image clean rhe.
yaha indians ko dekho ( ek achievement btane ayega toh usko celebrate krne ki vjaye, 10 log akr usko dbane ke liye ajaige ).
criticze krna is not wrong but your comment didn't show any positive remark regarding the developments.

C上上个月有一座“工程奇迹”大桥垮塌了（怀疑有严重F败），但没看到哪怕一个C人批评，相反他们极力压制关于那次垮塌的消息以保持国际形象清白。
看看这边的印度人（如果有一个成就发布，不是去庆祝，而是10个人跑来打压）。
批评没有错，但你的评论对这些发展没有表现出任何积极的看法。

Roronoa_Slasher
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We all know our roads are not so good man abb jo hai so hai

我们都知道我们的路不太好，伙计，但现状就是如此。

Equivalent-Dot-9148
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Konsa achievement bhai? If you go to the US or Canada you don’t lose life’s trying to cross roads as pedestrians, cuz every single car has to stop. The roads in India are filled with potholes, cows and dogs. And then there are the proud citizens of India, we are so proud that none of us follow traffic and lane rule. Kya faida roads ka tab uska ye halat ho?

兄弟，这算哪门子成就？如果你去美国或加拿大，作为行人过马路不会丢掉性命，因为每辆车都会停下来。印度的路到处是坑、牛和狗。然后还有那些自豪的印度公民，我们自豪到没人遵守交通和车道规则。如果路况是这样，那修路有什么用？

CotterPinC276
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True. I was going to my friend's house in downtown Houston. The cross roads were not signalled but with sign board of Stop & Proceed. Everyone were stopping the car and going to prevent collision.

真的。我去休斯顿市中心的朋友家。十字路口没有信号灯，只有“停车再行”的标志。每个人都会停下车再走，以防止碰撞。

herobhai69
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you never saw an american or canadian bragging about their achievements? damn bro, everytime i go to any western thread on X they are just filled with this sh!. they may share different idea/ diff parties/ diff wing or ideologies but they all act 1 that they are the greatest.

你没见过美国人或加拿大人吹嘘他们的成就？该死的兄弟，每次我去X（推特）上的任何西方话题帖子，到处都是这种狗屎！他们可能有不同的想法/不同的政党/不同的派系或意识形态，但他们都表现得好像自己是最伟大的。

Equivalent-Dot-9148
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Ok I’ll be honest now, I’m an Indian origin Canadian citizen born in Canada but I was raised in India for 12 years of my life. So as someone that’s lived in both countries for extended periods of time, trust me, Indian roads and Indian driving habits are horrible. So naturally many Indians are frustrated by the roads and road behaviour in the country

好吧，我现在实话实说，我是印度裔加拿大公民，出生在加拿大，但在印度长大了12年。作为一个在这两个国家都生活了很长时间的人，相信我，印度的道路和驾驶习惯非常糟糕。所以，很多印度人对这个国家的道路和路况感到沮丧是很自然的。

herobhai69
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thats true, not defending that part.
what i said was praise whats good along with criticizing whats bad

这确实是真的，我不为那部分辩护。
我想说的是，在批评坏事的同时，也要赞扬好事。

bear_trap_inn
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Sure, give us the chance to praise and we certainly will! In my lifetime of 36 years, not for once have I seen the roads near my house stay maintained for a whole year. Never! My dad stopped going for walks because 1. No sidewalk or footpaths, 2. Bikes and cars have hit pedestrians trying to swerve potholes. I say to hell with praises. You earn them not impose them!

当然，给我们赞扬的机会，我们肯定会赞扬！在我36年的人生中，我还没见过我家附近的哪怕一条路能维持一整年不坏的。从来没有！我爸都不去散步了，因为：1. 没有人行道，2. 自行车和汽车为了躲坑会撞到行人。我说让赞扬见鬼去吧。赞扬是赢来的，不是强加的！

Roronoa_Slasher
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Bro, I haven’t seen many beautiful roads. I mean yes, achievement toh hai, but kya fayda? Mere side ke roads ka haal bahut kharab hai. Itna pollution aur dust hota hai ki potholes dikhte hi nahi, aur fir accidents ho jaate hain.

兄弟，我没见过多少好路。我是说，没错，这确实是个成就，但有什么用呢？我这边的路况非常糟糕。污染和灰尘大到根本看不清坑洼，然后就会发生事故。

fiery_scorpio_763
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Cause to them having although less streets but good streets with good road discipline is normal, meanwhile over here bad road discipline is in fact encouraged by many without even mentioning the bad state of majority of the roads over here.

因为对他们来说，街道虽然少点，但拥有良好的路况和交通纪律是常态。而在我们这里，糟糕的交通纪律实际上被许多人鼓励，更不用说这里大多数道路的状况本身就很糟糕了。

tera_chachu
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How do you know Chinese didn't criticize it??
Did you talk to any Chinese citizen???

你怎么知道中国人没有批评？
你和任何中国公民聊过吗？

herobhai69
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there are proofs available, China ne kinta hide kra hai usko ( in global media ) and kabhi jakar Chinese forums mai discussions pd mil jaiga, bhar bhar defend krte hai vo.

有现成的证据，中国（在全球媒体上）对此进行了大量掩盖。你去中国论坛上看看讨论就知道了，他们都在拼命辩护。

tera_chachu
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Thik hai par uss se india ka kya lena dena hai bhai ye bata de bas???
India me roads me potholes hain wo concern hai.

行吧，但这跟印度有什么关系？兄弟你告诉我这跟我们有什么关系？？？
印度道路上有坑，这才是我们关心的问题。

herobhai69
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toh maine kab mna kra bhai , mera main argument hai if you are criticizing the bad, you should learn to appreciate the good too.
gali dena sabko ata hai laken "good job" koi nhi bol pata type ka scenario smjana cha rha hu.
abhi mumbai police ka video viral hua tha jaha log thank you bol rhe the for the good work ab socho unko kitna motivation milega for doing the job and making sure ki log kabhi unsey bura na mne + internationally image bhi clean rheti hai, ki indian police is capable of handling something.

兄弟，我什么时候否认这个了？我的主要观点是，如果你批评坏的一面，你也应该学会欣赏好的一面。
谁都会骂人，但那种没人说“干得好”的情况是我想要解释的。
最近孟买警察的一个视频火了，人们都在说谢谢你们的出色工作。试想一下，这会给他们多大的动力去工作，并确保人们不会对他们有恶意，加上国际形象也会保持清白，证明印度警察有能力处理事情。

habibexpress
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But bhai agar a world of bad is happening, constantly, consistently, literally getting butt-fucked by the government, local government and others, whats there to be happy about? At every milestone of success, there’s some chutiya ready to take additional bribes etc to allow you through. This country needs to wake up and become the first world country it can be by not ignoring its third world past.

但是兄弟，如果坏事不断地、持续地发生，我们实际上正在被政府、地方政府和其他人狠狠地“爆菊”，那有什么值得高兴的呢？在每一个成功的里程碑上，总有一些傻X准备收受额外的贿赂才让你通过。这个国家需要觉醒，不能忽视其第三世界的过去，才能成为它本应成为的第一世界国家。

Traditional_Art_6943
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How do you know proofs are real if you yourself said they hide the news.

如果你自己都说他们封锁消息，那你怎么知道那些证据是真的？

RegularFun4462
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Matlab crash to dabana koi itni achchi baat hai nai. And let's pls stop comparing China to India. India should never aspire to be like China.

我的意思是，压制崩溃的消息并不是什么好事。还有，请不要再拿中国和印度比了。印度永远不应该渴望变得像中国一样。

Cold-Assistance-5045
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LOL , its common knowledge these days that US infrastructure is crumbling . Most of it was built in 1960s. China maybe better but for US , we certainly have more modern infrastructure. Parts of US don't look like its a western country tbh.

哈哈，如今大家都知道美国的基础设施正在崩溃。大部分都是1960年代建的。中国可能好点，但比起美国，我们肯定拥有更现代化的基础设施。说实话，美国有些地方看起来根本不像西方国家。

schrodingerdoc
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Even the shitiest city of China has better air quality than India. We are breathing poison and our citizens have the haul to do chest thumping online. Lol.
It is pathetic to say the least. Celebrate achievements but most of them are kinda mid only.

即使是中国最烂的城市，空气质量也比印度好。我们呼吸着毒气，而我们的公民却有脸在网上吹牛逼。哈哈。
至少可以说这是可悲的。庆祝成就可以，但大多数成就其实都很平庸。

Cold-Assistance-5045
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This is some peak self loathing behaviour .
I have been noticing this for a while , post something remotely good about India , there are 10 guys ganging up to explain how it is "mid" or too common to celebrate.
And btw giving example of China for air quality is idiotic , its certainly better than india but aqi still peaks 250 in a lot of their cities.
Jokes on you , i didn't even do chest thumping here, i just stated facts which are indeed true. Most of US infra is indeed crumbling , did that hurt you bro?

这真是顶级的自我厌恶行为。
我注意这事儿有一阵子了，只要发布关于印度的一丁点好消息，就有10个人聚在一起解释它有多“平庸”或者太普通不值得庆祝。
顺便说一句，拿中国的空气质量举例是愚蠢的，它肯定比印度好，但在很多城市AQI峰值仍然达到250。
笑话其实是你，我在这里甚至没有吹牛逼，我只是陈述了确实真实的事实。美国的大部分基建确实在崩溃，这话伤到你了吗兄弟？

schrodingerdoc
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Brother if most of US infra is crumbling,- most of Indian "infra" is non- existent. We don't have the schools they have.( Our best schools are comparable to their public schools in rural areas ) We don't have 10 percent of their public utility services,- you can keep calling the police and ambulance here and it'll be a miracle if they reach an emergency before 20 minutes.
This is definitely not self loathing. Self - loathing is when someone refuses to acknowledge how poor our quality of life is compared to nations like even Vietnam. Most of our food is adulterated, most of our cities have toxic air, our rivers are like drains in most cities, our police is corrupt and incompetent and the only people who enjoy any kind of quality of life in our country are the top 2-3 percent of the population who live in gated communities, away from the real India.
The only thing we have better than the US is our passenger train system since it makes travelling cheap and accessible. But that service too is going to the dogs slowly.
Having a longer road system doesn't mean our roads match the kind of roads in either the US or China since both are spread out nations with much larger surface areas. Most of our roads are rural roads which are at times very poorly maintained. Only 2% of our roads are highways . So please let's not compare with either of those two nations.

兄弟，如果美国的大部分基建在崩溃，那印度的大部分“基建”根本就不存在。我们没有他们那样的学校（我们最好的学校只能跟他们农村地区的公立学校比）。我们没有他们10%的公共服务设施——你可以在这里不停地叫警察和救护车，如果他们在20分钟内能到那简直是奇迹。
这绝对不是自我厌恶。自我厌恶是指拒绝承认我们的生活质量与哪怕越南这样的国家相比有多么糟糕。我们的大多数食物都掺假，大多数城市空气有毒，大多数城市的河流像下水道，警察腐败无能，在这个国家只有住在封闭社区里的顶层2-3%的人口能享受生活质量，他们远离真正的印度。
我们唯一比美国好的是客运列车系统，因为它让旅行变得便宜且方便。但这服务也正在慢慢完蛋。
拥有更长的道路系统并不意味着我们的道路能比得上美国或中国，因为那两个都是幅员辽阔的国家。我们的大部分道路是乡村道路，有时维护极差。我们只有2%的道路是高速公路。所以请不要与这两个国家中的任何一个进行比较。

fiery_scorpio_763
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Now no one is criticizing the fact of us having the largest connected road infrastructure, infact if anything it genuinely is a good thing that we have roads that connect the smallest of villages to the largest of cities but what is the point of having the largest road infrastructure if a good amount of those roads r practically useless or cumbersome to use cause of poor quality and the sheer amount of potholes.

现在没人批评我们拥有最大互联道路基础设施这一事实，实际上，如果有路能将最小的村庄连接到最大的城市，这确实是件好事。但如果大量道路因为质量差和数不清的坑洼而实际上无法使用或使用起来很麻烦，那么拥有最大的道路基础设施又有什么意义呢？

designerchoicepro
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Kaisa ch0mu hai ch00tiye,
Kuch development aur achievement ho rha hai to usme me bhi teri gaand jal rhi hai
Aur kuch na kro to bologe hindu muslim karti hai govt,
Ab jab govt kaam kar rhi hai to credit de diya kr,
Warna govt sochegi, tumhe development nhi bas controversy hee chahiye,to kya development karne ka fayada

你是个什么傻X啊，有了点发展和成就，你的屁股就着火（嫉妒）了吗？
如果不做点什么，你们就说政府搞印度教穆斯林对立；
现在政府干活了，就该给点赞赏啊。
否则政府会想，你们不要发展，只要争议，那搞发展还有什么用？

museum-of-faults
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You must be quite popular at parties, the way you speak clearly reflects your background.
That said, I am a citizen of this country, and I have every right to criticize it. Even in my own city, new roads and highways are built frequently, yet many of them develop potholes within a year, especially after the monsoon.
Although our bikes and cars are capable of speeds beyond 80 km/h, on highways I rarely feel safe going beyond 60 km/h because I know that, within a few kilometers, there will likely be potholes or poorly done patchwork.
There are still places in this country where people are forced to cross using unsafe rope bridges and I was one of them.
So I am in no mood to get satisfied with this inferior quality work and the work they are supposed to do because they are the fu*king government, they are supposed to do this.
Quality is always better than quantity.
And learn some manner to talk bro, a civilised way to discuss something.
Otherwise, bsdk gand todni hamko bhi ati h, smjh gya keyboard warrior.
Fyi see this post as well
https://www.reddit.com/r/IndiaMemes/s/PmhumsrSPc

你在派对上一定很受欢迎吧，你说话的方式清楚地反映了你的背景。
话说回来，我是这个国家的公民，我完全有权批评它。即使在我自己的城市，新的道路和高速公路经常建，但很多在一年内就出现了坑洼，尤其是在季风过后。
尽管我们的车能开到80公里/小时以上，但在高速公路上超过60我就觉得不安全，因为我知道几公里内肯定会有坑洼或补丁。
在这个国家仍有些地方，人们被迫使用不安全的索桥通行，我就是其中之一。
所以我没心情对这种劣质工程和他们的本职工作感到满意，因为他们是他妈的政府，这是他们应该做的。
质量永远优于数量。
还有，兄弟学学说话的礼貌，用文明的方式讨论问题。
否则，小崽子，把人打出翔这种事我们也会，明白了吗键盘侠。
仅供参考，看看这个帖子

Aarish1234
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China had a phase of development which started around 1970s. What people really ignore is the fact that the progress wasn't always completely steady, even they had ups and downs in that phase as is natural.
And have you seen the quality of their products some two to three decades back? It's almost the same as what we have today, even though they had already secured the title for the highest manufactured products and still continues so.
And don't get me started with the people in this comment section according to whom quantity of roads don't matter at all. They do. And it's not that hard to understand. We need these huge number of roads for safe inland imports and exports as well as for travel.
And let's be real, not every road out there is covered with potholes. I have seen people who wants me to believe we have potholes everywhere (as if I don't live in this same country lol).
P.S: India isn't "incredible" yet, we have a lot to work upon. And everyone, whether it be a leftist or rightist or whatever -ist, knows that somewhere deep in their hearts. But that doesn't mean you won't laud the management for their achievements either. Criticizing and cheering on goes hand in hand.

中国的发展阶段始于20世纪70年代左右。人们真正忽视的是，进步并不总是完全稳定的，即使是他们在那个阶段也有起伏，这很自然。
你见过他们二三十年前的产品质量吗？跟我们今天拥有的差不多，尽管他们已经获得了制造业第一的称号并保持至今。
别让我吐槽评论区的这些人，他们觉得道路数量根本不重要。这很重要。这不难理解。我们需要大量的道路来进行安全的内陆进出口以及旅行。
说实话，并不是每条路都布满坑洼。有些人想让我相信到处都是坑（好像我不住在这个国家一样，哈哈）。
P.S：印度还称不上“不可思议”，我们还有很多工作要做。每个人，无论是左派、右派还是什么派，内心深处都知道这一点。但这并不意味着你不该赞扬管理层的成就。批评和欢呼是相辅相成的。

tera_chachu
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Arey mere bhai China ko kiu lara hai beech me.
Tu kahan rehta hai ? Bahar nikalta hai ya nahi?
Yahan tier 1 city ki roads dekh wo bhi buri hoti hain,massive traffic jam hota hai uss wajah se aur govt kuch nahi karti.Ek potholes bharne me months lag jaate hain.Sewer system khrb hai

哎呀我的兄弟，为什么要扯上中国？
你住在哪儿？你出门吗？
看看这里一线城市的道路，也很烂，因此造成大规模交通拥堵，而政府无所作为。填个坑要花好几个月。下水道系统也是烂的。

Aarish1234
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When did I deny the fact out roads don't have potholes?
And not necessarily all roads of Tier I cities have to be the only standards. I have roamed enough Tier II and III cities to know that many of their roads are quite well maintained.
And people are obsessed with China, so matters while comparing.

我什么时候否认道路有坑的事实了？
而且不一定非要以一线城市的所有道路为唯一标准。我跑过足够多的二三线城市，知道那里很多路维护得相当不错。
人们太沉迷于中国了，所以比较的时候总要提。

Ishan150801
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Kuch bhi mat bako. China me contractor corruption politican ke saath milkar nahi hora tha. Aur unki economy bhi overnight nahi bani hai, their economy credits it's success to decades of investment in education, human resources, skilled labour.
Humare pe 1% bhi planning aur foresight nahi hai unke comparison me.

别胡扯了。在中国，承包商和政客没有像这样勾结腐败。他们的经济也不是一夜之间建成的，他们的经济成功归功于数十年对教育、人力资源和熟练劳动力的投资。
跟他们比，我们连1%的规划和远见都没有。

Key_Stranger_5794
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Sabka kamiya nikalna band karo . Be grateful that at least we got something. Also we cannot do anything to improve the shitty road quality.
Edit - To everyone saying "tax bhar fir pata chalega"
We own 4 cars including a Mercedes , and you guys tell me what can we possibly do to improve the quality of the road ?
Change the govt ? No
Raise a complaint? No action
File a case ?
Nothing's gonna work .

别再挑毛病了。心存感激吧，至少我们有东西了。我们也无法采取任何措施来改善烂路质量。
编辑 - 对那些说“交了税你就懂了”的人：
我们家有4辆车，包括一辆奔驰，你们告诉我我们可以做些什么来提高道路质量？
换政府？不行。
投诉？没用。
起诉？
什么都没用。

Dependent-Let5457
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Do you have memory bro? We were terrible in road building,, and we had neither the quantity or quality. Atleast we got the quantity, quality will surely improve. Most of the taxes will go into road maintenance instead of building new road

兄弟你有记忆吗？我们以前修路烂透了，既没数量也没质量。至少现在我们有了数量，质量肯定会提高的。大部分税收将用于道路维护而不是修建新路。

batmanofbloodshire
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Why were we terrible in road building? Don’t we have smart people in our country who pursued civil engineering? Do you realise - more the quantity more the issue, manpower to repair it? More road closures and more public inconvenience when they already were patient enough while the road was being built? Do you realise if they did a good job then only x amount would’ve been spent and the extra amount could’ve been spent for something else?

为什么我们修路烂？难道我们国家就没有学土木工程的聪明人吗？你意识到了吗——数量越多问题越多，哪来的人力去修？当人们在修路时已经忍受了够久的封路和不便，现在又要面临更多的封路？你意识到了吗，如果他们一开始就做好，只需要花费X金额，多余的钱就可以用在别处了？

Dependent-Let5457
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No. We don't. Theoretical knowledge does not build things. Don't believe? Here is something to think about: notice our Indian railway carriage has wavy sides?
Chinese trains don't have those wavy sides. The tech to build those is only given to Chinese by the Japanese and Europeans as part of their tech transfer in the late 90s.
After the Chinese "innovated" to better designs, the euro and Japanese are not willing to repeat the same tech transfer to India.
Edit: metro car bodies are steel, and are built for 90kmph. Vande bharat 3.0 is planned to have the advanced aluminum bodies, but that is in far future. Assuming 220kmph for that.
Not everything's about corruption.

不，我们没有。理论知识造不出东西。不信？想一想：注意到我们印度的火车车厢侧面是波浪形的吗？
中国的火车没有那些波浪形侧面。制造这些的技术是日本和欧洲在90年代末作为技术转让的一部分给中国人的。
在中国人“创新”出更好的设计后，欧洲和日本不愿意再对印度进行同样的技术转让。
编辑：地铁车身是钢制的，设计时速90公里。Vande Bharat 3.0计划采用先进的铝制车身，但那是遥远的未来。假设时速能到220公里。
并非一切都与腐败有关。

batmanofbloodshire
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Cool. I wonder why we even have an education system then.
There are so many cases where technology is got from outside. You don’t have to reinvent the wheel every time.
But, anyway. You seem to be very knowledgeable to and patient to accept the substandard work. Maybe when you build something of yours (unless you already have one, maybe a house?) then the theoretical civil engineers will do a shoddy job and then you can pay more for getting it repaired.

行吧。那我想知道我们为什么还要有教育系统。
从外部获取技术的例子很多。你不必每次都重新发明轮子。
但是，无论如何。你似乎非常懂行并且有耐心接受不合格的工程。也许等你建自己的东西时（除非你已经有了，比如一栋房子？），那些理论上的土木工程师会给你搞个豆腐渣工程，然后你可以花更多的钱去修。

Dependent-Let5457
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We don't have engineering heritage. These guys have been building electrical trains for 100+ years.
They won't give it to us. They will sell us products, not the tech. That is their competitive advantage.
So Japanese will give us the shinkansen trains, but will not give us the blueprints for how to build 25m long aluminum bodies.
Edit: this makes the Chinese tech transfers even more impressive, they were able to convince these companies at that time. But those days are gone.

我们没有工程传统。这些家伙造电力火车已经100多年了。
他们不会给我们的。他们只会卖给我们产品，而不是技术。这就是他们的竞争优势。
所以日本人会给我们新干线列车，但不会给我们如何制造25米长铝制车身的蓝图。
编辑：这使得中国的技术转让更加令人印象深刻，他们当时能够说服这些公司。但那种日子已经一去不复返了。

Mysterious_Motor_172
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It was not a trick. They paid for it. They did a worldwide tender and asked whoever wanted to quote whatever figure but tech transfer would be the basis. And they paid. So, it was all above board.
If you wanna be impressed, be impressed that they understood the underlying technologies of five countries, different propulsion systems, different technologies and said we can now build what we got from you.
That is impressive. Not the tech but the absorption capacity of the Chinese engineers. And the Chinese didn't hoard the knowledge but shared it far and wide within their own country.
It's the same across industries, competitive and cooperative.
Then after 2 years, they proposed joint r&d which all rejected. Maybe they thought they were the best.
The Chinese out-innovated by merging and mixing technologies they got from the five countries.
All of the other countries have egos of their own.
And while doing this, they also realized what the pain points are.

这不是诡计。他们是付了钱的。他们进行了全球招标，不管谁报价多少，但技术转让是基础。他们付了钱。所以，一切都是光明正大的。
如果你要佩服，就佩服他们理解了五个国家的底层技术、不同的推进系统、不同的技术，并表示“我们现在可以制造从你们那里学到的东西”。
这令人印象深刻。不是技术本身，而是中国工程师的吸收能力。而且中国人并没有囤积知识，而是在国内广泛分享。
各行各业都一样，既竞争又合作。
两年后，他们提出联合研发，结果都被拒绝了。也许他们（外国公司）认为自己是最好的。
中国通过融合混合从这五个国家获得的技术，实现了超越创新。
所有其他国家都有自己的傲慢。
在这样做的同时，他们也意识到了痛点是什么。

Southern-Ordinary241
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Quality > Quantity

质量 > 数量

axisdork
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Yes quality does matter, but for a vast and populated geography getting roads actually built still is more important.
There are still villages that have kucha roads connecting them and i am not even talking about Frontier areas. Villages in Naxal affected areas in the middle of the countries are getting pucca roads for the first time.

是的，质量确实很重要，但对于幅员辽阔、人口稠密的地区来说，把路先修起来仍然更重要。
仍然有一些村庄只有土路连接，我甚至不是在谈论边疆地区。在国家中部纳萨尔派（Naxal）受影响地区的村庄第一次通了硬化路。

O-MrPhantomDeluxe-O
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Quality bhi kuch hota h india abhi US aur China ke paas bhi nhi

“质量”也是个东西啊，印度现在连美国和中国的边儿都摸不着。

Equivalent-Dot-9148
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Quality > Quantity just saying. Roads don’t matter when literally 99% of the population don’t follow lane and traffic rules.

随便说说，质量 > 数量。当99%的人都不遵守车道和交通规则时，有路也没用。

Motor-Perception9808
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For cars++++ two wheelers++ cycle- pedestrian- - - we r humans we need infrastructure for walking bhai

对汽车++++ 对两轮车++ 对自行车- 对行人--- 我们是人类，我们需要步行的基础设施啊兄弟。

crimson_g_impact
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Other than potholes, I'd say roads are more friendly to bikes because how they can go wrong side, service roads, small gaps and all easily to avoid traffic.

除了坑洼之外，我想说道路对摩托车更友好，因为他们可以逆行、走辅路、钻小缝，很容易避开拥堵。

BrushInside6908
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Hasna hai ya roona hai iss baat pe samj nahi aara.

不知道这事儿该笑还是该哭。

Randi_Vinashk
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The quality of those roads is worse than some shithole in dagestan...

那些路的质量比达吉斯坦的一些鸟不拉屎的地方还差……

United-Environment-8
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According to ?

这个说法的根据什么？

Nightmare_on_reddit
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Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_road_network_size

维基百科 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_road_network_size

kimjongun_v2
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According to Wikipedia?

根据维基百科？

Nightmare_on_reddit
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Yeah

是的。

Few_Bet_8952
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Wikipedia is not a primary source it compiles other sources. In this case the source is the Indian government directly - [https://www.pib.gov.in/PressReleaseifxePage.aspx?PRID=1993425®=3&lang=2](https://www.pib.gov.in/PressReleaseifxePage.aspx?PRID=1993425®=3&lang=2)
Keep in mind about 3-4yrs ago (just checked apparently this happened in 2018) the government changed the formula of how it counts a km of road constructed such that 1km of a 6 lane expressway counts as 6km of road built and not 1km Also keep in mind only 67% of roads in India are paved according to government data whereas for China this number is 97% it's 65% for US.

维基百科不是第一手来源，它汇编其他来源。在这个案例中来源直接是印度政府 - [https://www.pib.gov.in/PressReleaseifxePage.aspx?PRID=1993425®=3&lang=2](https://www.pib.gov.in/PressReleaseifxePage.aspx?PRID=1993425®=3&lang=2)
请记住，大约3-4年前（刚刚查了，显然发生在2018年），政府改变了计算道路建设公里数的公式，将1公里长的6车道高速公路算作6公里的道路，而不是1公里。还要记住，根据政府数据，印度只有67%的道路是铺装的，而中国是97%，美国是65%。

O-MrPhantomDeluxe-O
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Yep and there roads (specially US) are more wider

是的，而且那里的路（特别是美国）更宽。

Cold-Assistance-5045
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Kar te reh beta downplay .

接着贬低吧，儿子。

Few_Bet_8952
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kuch jhoot bola ho toh correct kardo aap

如果我说谎了，请你指正。

O-MrPhantomDeluxe-O
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US has the largest road network ... But what i was trying to say is that quality of road is just so bad .
Road standards in US is so high that our normal roads wont be eligible to be called "ROAD"

美国拥有最大的公路网……但我想说的是（印度的）道路质量太差了。
美国的道路标准很高，我们的普通道路在那边根本没资格被称为“路”。

Nightmare_on_reddit
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Well yeah we got quantity over quality ,i guess

嗯，是啊，我想我们要的是数量胜过质量。

Uchiha_Madara_Nipple
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We don’t even have quantity. A six lane road is now counted as 6 different road and the lengths are aggregated.

我们甚至连数量都没有。一条六车道的路现在被算作6条不同的路，长度是累加的。

inanimatussoundscool
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If I am not wrong they changed the way they measure roads laid than the rest of the world so this may not mean much

如果我没记错的话，他们改变了测量道路的方式，与世界其他地方不同，所以这可能没什么意义。

Emergency-Bid-8346
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1 km of a 4 lane highway is measured 4km here

4车道高速公路的1公里在这里算作4公里。

Ambitious_Push420
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#modi hai to mumkin hai

#莫迪在，一切皆有可能

Level-Problem1603
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I think indian government must have changed the definition of “road” like everything. Every path, every possible path, every hole is a road

我觉得印度政府肯定像对待其他事情一样，修改了“道路”的定义。每条小路，每条可能走的路，每一个洞，都是路。

sugardaddy_viperr
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Quantity ≠ Quality
Contractors ki wjh se road quality ki maa bhen ho rkhi h and there are pot holes almost everywhere. Not to mention, there is no protection of stray animals on highways and all. I was driving through the Delhi- Jaipur expressway and saw several dead dogs on the road.

数量 ≠ 质量。
因为承包商的缘故，道路质量简直“被问候了全家”（烂透了），几乎到处都有坑。更不用说，高速公路上根本没有防止流浪动物进入的措施。我开车经过德里-斋浦尔高速公路时，在路上看到了好几只死狗。

Adventurous-Bug9586
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Those Roads will wipe out in months
Corrupt bureaucratic roads won't survive a single rain
It's been 14 years since the road in my city has been repaired
India is a corrupt nation
Ya bjp govt is boosting growth but everyone is corrupt

那些路几个月内就会消失。
腐败官僚修的路连一场雨都经不住。
我城市的道路已经14年没修过了。
印度是一个腐败的国家。
是的，BJP政府在促进增长，但每个人都腐败。

sunflow23
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Why is that an achievement even or something incredible? If you went into detail of why and how about road then it would have made a good post.

为什么这也算一项成就或者什么了不起的事？如果你详细说明关于道路的原因和方式，那还会是个好帖子。

Technical-Ferret-21
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Bro is proud of shitty roads lol

兄弟为烂路感到自豪，哈哈。

ngl5
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World's largest *broken* road network, you missed a word here

世界上最大的*破损*公路网，你漏掉了一个词。

FitAgency8925
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I'm glad the infra has improved...next should be to get traffic discipline and rules being followed

我很高兴基建有所改善……下一步应该是让大家遵守交通纪律和规则。

JumpyStretch9312
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As usual, indians feeling proud of quantity over quality! Same with population!

像往常一样，印度人为数量而不是质量感到自豪！人口也是一样！

divyanshu_17
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1km of 4lane road is calculated as 4km now.
The funny part: Those roads are still trash and become mars surface after 1 rainy season

现在1公里的4车道公路被算作4公里。
好笑的是：那些路仍然是垃圾，一个雨季过后就变成了火星表面。

NoHypocrisyDoubleStd
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Yeah no one believe this bs, some roads probably all messed up but counted

是的，没人相信这鬼话，有些路可能都烂透了但也算进去了。

DrAK_47
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Stop using " largest this " " largest that" rubbish ....it's a country with the largest population and it should have the largest economy and transportation facility but question about the quality of it rather than comparing sizes like a kid

别再用什么“最大的这个”“最大的那个”这种垃圾话术了……这是一个人口最多的国家，它理应拥有最大的经济体量和交通设施，但问题在于质量，而不是像小孩子一样比大小。

Budget_Tomato6301
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Yeah well india should be number one in everything where quantity is the judging criteria because it has the most people. Anything less than that is subpar.

是的，在所有以数量为判断标准的事情上，印度都应该是第一，因为它人最多。任何低于这个标准的都是不及格。

good_noon_salsa
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China ?
US ?
Bhai kitna piya hai ?

中国？
美国？
兄弟你喝了多少？

low_on_vitamin_D
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China - 1 km of 4-lane = 1 km
India - 1 km of 4 lane = 4 km (new method by GoI)
America kya kehta tha ?

中国：1公里4车道 = 1公里。
印度：1公里4车道 = 4公里（印度政府的新方法）。
美国是怎么算的？

Techav20
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Surpassed in broken roads

在烂路上超越了。

Cautious-Proposal186
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Ye mitti ke roads jo kheton ki boundary hote hai, usko bhi gin liya kya

那些田埂上的土路是不是也算进去了？

Life_Sweet3473
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By counting 4 lanes as 4 different roads

靠着把4车道算作4条不同的路。

SlackBytes
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It’s so hard to believe bcuz it’s soooo absurd. But it’s true right? Very few ever bring this up.

太难相信了，因为太荒谬了。但这竟然是真的，对吧？很少有人提起这个。

exoanxiety
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Also leading in pollution

污染方面也领先。

Assassi_Creed
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Quality aur Quantity mai Jameen Asmaan ka Pharak hai.
Udhar Quality accha hai.

质量和数量之间有着天壤之别。
那边的质量好。

SilentAlternative827
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What’s the use when you have to deal with these
- Wrong way traffic
- different vehicles going at different speeds. No speed consistency
- no lane sense
- animals coming onto highways
- people driving without lights
- people stopping as they wish on the sides of highways
- still have to stop for toll. Automated toll collection too slow
- cycles bikes pedestrian on highways

当你不得不面对这些时，有什么用：
- 逆行交通
- 不同的车辆以不同的速度行驶。没有速度一致性
- 没有车道意识
- 动物跑到高速公路上
- 人们不开灯驾驶
- 人们在高速公路边随意停车
- 还是要停车缴费。自动收费太慢
- 高速公路上有自行车、摩托车和行人

FifthWaveThinker
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This is an awesome achievement!! I know a lot of people will snigger at this and troll this news. But remember growth and development are not straight lines pointed up, there are dips, flats and rises... So we will get to a point where we have the Largest, Best and Safest road network !

这是一个了不起的成就！！我知道很多人会对此嗤之以鼻并嘲讽这个新闻。但请记住，增长和发展不是直线上升的，有低谷、平稳期和上升期……所以我们终将达到拥有最大、最好和最安全的公路网的那一天！

coolbabyyoutoo1438
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Highways and expressways growth is good but We should focus on improving the local roads inside cities and states. They are in terrible conditions and traffic management is too bad.

公路和快速路的增长是好的，但我们应该专注于改善城市和州内的当地道路。它们路况极差，交通管理也太烂了。

Specialist-Bunch2129
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Space tech se bana hua hai toh meteors toh girenge hi

既然是用太空技术造的，那肯定会有流星掉下来的嘛（指砸出坑）。

Alarmed_Ant9964
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the definition of road do be very broad in India.

在印度，道路的定义确实非常宽泛。

Healthy_9
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Stop glorifying these things fueled by politicians and parties for political advantage.
Pathetic roads that hardly last a year..
There are multiple instances of bridge collapsing, roads getting washed away in rain.
sorry but we should be raising serious question on the quality of work.
We are largest population in the world and 80% people live on govt subsidies and ration.

停止美化这些政客和政党为了政治利益而推动的事情。
糟糕的道路几乎维持不到一年……
有多起桥梁倒塌、道路被雨水冲毁的例子。
抱歉，但我们应该对工程质量提出严厉质问。
我们是世界上人口最多的国家，80%的人靠政府补贴和救济粮生活。