“去了中国后，坦率地说，几乎所有刻板印象都被证明是错的”中国遭受了不应遭受的负面形象

lurkermurphy
It's because most people have only been exposed to Chinese tourists, and when they're out being tourist, they act a lot different. In China, when they recognize you are a visiting outsider, I think they go out of their way to help you more often than not.
I once bought a standing-only ticket on a slow train and quickly was given a seat and then four different students fell asleep on my lap and shoulder.
 
这是因为大多数人接触到的都是中国游客，而中国游客在旅游时的表现截然不同。在中国，当他们意识到你是外国游客时，我觉得他们通常会主动帮助你。
我曾经买过一张慢车的站票，很快就被安排了座位，然后四个不同的学生在我腿上和肩膀上睡着了。
 
dealwithitxo
I know I’m so so confused why / how the tourists are sooo rude, selfish but people within China are so polite??? (I only went to gz)
 
我真的非常困惑，为什么游客如此粗鲁、自私，而中国国内的人却如此礼貌？？？（我只去过广州）
 
Grizzly-Redneck
Look at how American tourists or British holidaymakers behave on occasion. Those examples are a long way from the people I have met while working and traveling in their countries.
You could travel to my country and encounter open racism and ignorance but that doesn't represent the norm I'm glad to say.
 
看看美国游客或英国度假者偶尔的行为。这些例子与我在这些国家工作和旅行时遇到的人们截然不同。
你或许会在我的国家遇到公开的种族主义和无知，但我很高兴地说，这并不代表常态。
 
 
Stunning-Necessary75
I think it's largely because there are many Chinese tourists, so there's a larger pool of them compared to tourists from other countries. Also I've been told that there's a urban rural divide when it comes to manners (this is by no means universal but I've been told it's present particularity with older generations). Those "rural" people have more disposable income these days so they can travel abroad more easily. This might explain some of this reputation although I think the issue is exaggerated, I worked in a job that dealt with tourists a lot and I rarely had issues with people from China.
 
我认为这主要是因为中国游客众多，所以相比其他国家的游客，中国游客的数量要多得多。另外，我还听说城乡在礼仪方面存在差异（这并非普遍现象，但我听说这种情况在老一辈人中尤为突出）。如今，农村地区的人们可支配收入更多，因此更容易出国旅行。这或许可以解释部分关于中国游客的负面评价，但我认为这个问题被夸大了。我曾经从事过一份经常与游客打交道的工作，很少遇到中国游客的不友好行为。
 
Secret_War_9245
Because of bias and stereotypes.
when people see an Asian doing something rude, they often assume he’s Chinese, even if he’s from another country. But if the person is polite, people often assume he’s Japanese
 
由于偏见和刻板印象。
当人们看到亚洲人举止粗鲁时，往往会认为他是中国人，即使他来自其他国家。但如果这个人彬彬有礼，人们往往会认为他是日本人。
 
Stalin_Jr77
I think when you have paid a lot of money for a foreign holiday you will act more entitled. It’s really the same for most nationalities
 
我认为，当你花了很多钱去国外度假时，你的行为就会显得更加理所当然。这其实适用于大多数国家。
 
dubov
The travelling ones tend to be rich and have an entitled attitude. The worst are the young(er) ladies with a princess complex
They can be kind of rude when acting in the capacity of tourists in China - line cutting, letting the kids run wild.
 
这些游客往往家境富裕，而且态度傲慢。最糟糕的是那些有公主病的年轻女士。
她们在中国作为游客时，行为举止可能相当粗鲁——插队、放任孩子乱跑等等。
 
Tremendous_Dump
I would go further to say most Chinese I have met (having lived there) are incredibly warm, kind hearted, well intentioned and generally nice to a fault. What most people i know perceive as rude is a stunning lack of self-awareness, but very rarely is it out of malice.
Few bad eggs notwithstanding
 
我还要补充一点，我遇到的绝大多数中国人（我曾在中国生活过）都非常热情、善良、乐于助人，甚至到了过分的地步。我认识的大多数人眼中的粗鲁，其实是缺乏自知之明，但极少是出于恶意。
当然，也难免有少数害群之马。
 
nap_napsaw
Yes, I agree. Also there is propaganda campaign against China, dont know who is behind it.
I have seen some Chinese tourists, they are mostly fine but some of them cause the trouble and then add to the bad image their tourists have.
I agree with you that in China they are completely different.
 
是的，我同意。而且确实存在针对中国的负面宣传活动，我不知道幕后黑手是谁。
我见过一些中国游客，他们大多都很好，但也有一些会惹是生非，加深人们对中国游客的负面印象。
我同意你的看法，在中国，情况确实截然不同。
 
bdd6911
Yeah it isn’t the tourists. We have many Chinese in LA. They are fine and no complaints. It’s the propaganda. All bs international jockeying between governments. Chinese are fine. Like everyone else.
 
不，问题不在游客。洛杉矶有很多中国人，他们都很好，也没什么抱怨。是宣传惹的祸。全是政府间国际博弈的胡扯。中国人很好，和其他人一样。
 
tempter
Well, the US is openly spending $1.6bn on anti-China narratives so that might be part of it.
 
嗯，美国公开花费16亿美元用于反华宣传，这可能是部分原因。
 
nap_nasaw
Yes, how much do they spend secretely - that is the real question. Anyway, those who go there say it is not how China is pictured so at least they wont be brainwashed
 
没错，他们到底偷偷花了多少钱——这才是真正的问题。总之，去过那里的人都说，那里的中国和人们想象中的不一样，所以至少他们不会被洗脑。
 
tempter
I had my first post-pandemic trip to China last month (having travelled there extensively for work and pleasure since 2005). The most striking thing to me is just how distorted the picture of China in western media has become (I live in London & Amsterdam).
 
上个月，我进行了疫情后第一次中国之旅（自2005年以来，我曾多次因工作和旅游前往中国）。最令我震惊的是，西方媒体对中国的描述已经变得多么扭曲（我住在伦敦和阿姆斯特丹）。
 
blueark1
My family and I LOVE living and traveling in China. Magical landscapes, fantastic and affordable food, and absolute luxury at an affordable price. The Ritz where I live is $125 a night in the off season
 
我和家人都非常喜欢在中国生活和旅行。这里有如诗如画的风景、美味又实惠的美食，以及价格亲民的奢华享受。我住的丽思卡尔顿酒店淡季每晚只要125美元。
 
nap_napsaw
Wow $125 fpr that is really cheap. Even I habe stayed in a good hotel in Shanghai 10 minutes walk distance for like $15 per night. Btw yes, food options are quite varied, I habe eaten a new dish every time.
 
哇，125美元就能住到，真是太便宜了。我在上海住过一家不错的酒店，步行10分钟就能到，每晚才15美元左右。对了，那里的食物种类确实很丰富，我每次都尝试了不同的菜式。
 
kaos3888
There is absolutely a bias. I also think people look at China in a 'back then' lens and simply don't know how rapidly China developed in the past 2 decades. In the west, we haven't moved all that much in the past 2 decades (and have even regressed in some ways) but China has progressed in leaps and bounds.
 
这绝对存在偏见。我认为人们看待中国总是带着“过去”的眼光，根本不了解中国过去二十年的发展速度。西方国家过去二十年进步不大（甚至在某些方面有所倒退），而中国却取得了飞速发展。
 
nap_napsaw
Yes, dont underestimate your adversary. Unfortunately, the USA and EU have been doing and even now trear China as a country where they make shitty products for low prices. Its not like that anymore. China has top-notch products in most major fields from phones to EVs.
 
是的，不要低估你的对手。不幸的是，美国和欧盟过去一直，甚至现在仍然认为中国是一个生产廉价劣质产品的国家。但事实并非如此。中国在大多数主要领域，从手机到电动汽车，都拥有顶尖的产品。
 
Dreldan
I also just got back from China after traveling all over for 3 weeks and gad very similar experience. I was shocked at how nice most everyone was. There was one point where my brother and I had walked the wrong way after taking a train to a new place, very small town. Our host had sent us directions that were just pictures to lead us to them. So we were trying to find the images they sent us as we walked through the city. The problem was the images got sent out of order so we kept getting turned around. We ended up on this road just walking alone and this guy way down the street far away starts yelling at us and walking towards. It starts making me nervous as he keeps coming towards us yelling, but he was t yelling angrily from what I could tell. Anyways… back home in the USA I would definitely have turned the other way or crossed the street to get away. We let him come up to us and we pulled out translate all and all he said is “where are you trying to go”. I was like … how’s this guy even know we’re lost, we’re just walking down a street lol. I assumed he was going to try to scam us or convince us to pay him to take us to the place. We showed him the images and the picture of the final destination. He started giving us Directions and even started walking with us to show us, the entire time I’m still on edge thinking there is a catch or some angle he’s working. He walks us half way there points out where we need to go, makes sure we know we need to take the next left and then a right, and then he just goes the other direction and starts walking back the way he came… I was just dumbfounded that this complete stranger went that far out of their way to help us get to our lodging and we hadn’t even asked for help..
 
我刚结束为期三周的中国旅行回来，也有非常相似的经历。让我震惊的是，几乎每个人都如此友善。有一次，我和弟弟坐火车到一个新地方（一个非常小的镇子）后走错了路。我们的房东只发了几张图片来指引路线，所以我们当时正一边走一边对照着手机里的图片找路。问题是图片顺序被打乱了，导致我们反复绕圈子。
 
最后我们走到一条没什么人的路上，这时远处有个陌生人开始朝我们大喊并走过来。他一边喊一边靠近，这让我有些紧张，不过从语气听似乎并非带着怒意。说实话，如果在美国遇到类似情况，我肯定会掉头或过马路避开。但我们还是站在原地等他过来，并打开了翻译软件——结果他只是问：“你们想去哪里？” 我心想：这人怎么知道我们迷路了？我们不过就是沿着街走啊！当时我以为他可能要骗钱或者忽悠我们付带路费。
 
我们给他看了手机里的图片和最终目的地的照片。他立刻开始指路，甚至陪我们走了一段。一路上我仍提心吊胆，总觉得他另有企图。结果他陪我们走到半路，仔细指明需要左转再右转的位置，确认我们听懂后，就转身沿着来时的方向离开了……我完全愣住了：这位陌生人竟然如此费心帮助素不相识的我们找到住处，而我们甚至不曾主动求助。
 
lolfamy
I'll agree that the image is a bit distorted. And there are cultural differences we need to take into account. But there is absolutely smoking everywhere lol. Restrooms are smoking rooms, restaurants that aren't in tier 1 cities are fair game, even indoors in my bullding (in Beijing no less) people occasionally smoke. The worst place I've seen was inside of the pediatric hospital, again, in Beijing. The line cutting can be annoying which happens everywhere as well.
And it is loud. People absolutely do listen to their phone at full volume on speakerphone everywhere. Again, cultural differences. Normal here. Very annoying for me though but this is how they do things here. Loud megaphone blasting awesome deals for photo services or foods that vendors are selling at any tourist place. Again, Chinese people can't even hear it. They can tune it out. I cannot and it takes me out of the moment and I'm not a fan
But I wouldn't say they're unkind or anything like that. And it is very affordable and convenient once you get past the app/mini program barrier
 
我同意外界的印象存在一定偏差，文化差异也是需要考虑的因素。不过公共场合吸烟的情况确实普遍存在（笑）。洗手间常变成吸烟室，一线城市之外的餐馆里吸烟也较常见，甚至在北京我住的楼里（这可是北京）也偶尔有人在室内吸烟。我见过最离谱的是在北京一家儿科医院里，同样有人吸烟。
 
此外，喧闹现象也很突出。人们确实习惯在任何地方用扬声器最大音量播放手机内容——这同样是文化差异使然，在当地是常态，但对我而言确实有些困扰。旅游景点总有大喇叭循环播放照相服务或小吃摊的叫卖声，而中国民众似乎能自动过滤这些噪音，我却很难做到，这种环境音常让我难以沉浸体验。
 
但我绝不会因此认为他们不友善。一旦跨越了应用/小程序的使用门槛，这里的生活其实非常经济实惠且便捷。
 
RysloVerik
Hard disagree on the loudness and smoking.
It's just a cultural norm for people to talk over each other like it's an Italian Christmas dinner. In regards to smoking, compared to many western countries, they allow it everywhere.
 
关于喧闹和吸烟的问题，我持不同意见。
在中国，人们交谈时互相提高音量盖过对方，这更像是一种文化习惯——好比意大利圣诞晚餐桌上的热闹氛围。至于吸烟，相比许多西方国家，这里的规定确实更为宽松。
 
UnfairOcelot6900
I just got back from a trip to SEA including Beijing and Shanghai and fully agree with your observation. China left a lasting impression on us because of its history and pristine culture. We went to one of those imperial banquet shows and we were in awe. Japan on the other was always praised for its cleanliness and polite hospitality but we had the worst experience with rude Japanese people kicking our luggage out of the way on the Tokyo metro. Also the kids were rude when we visited Tokyo Disneyland. We found the politeness Japan is often praised for almost fake whereas Chinese people were genuinely nice and helpful. Often going out of their way to help us out, while the Japanese made us feel like we were a huge burden. Not to bash Japan but China wins for its authenticity, intact culture and welcoming people. The technology is far more superior too.
 
刚从东南亚旅行回来，其中包括北京和上海，我完全同意你的观察。中国因其悠久的历史和纯粹的文化给我们留下了持久的印象。我们去看了场皇家宴乐表演，全程惊叹不已。而日本虽然一直以干净和有礼好客著称，但我们却在东京地铁遇到了最糟糕的经历——有无礼的日本人把我们的行李踢开。在东京迪士尼乐园，孩子们的表现也让我们觉得粗鲁。我们发现日本常被称赞的礼貌近乎虚伪，而中国人民则真诚友善、乐于助人。他们常常主动为我们提供帮助，而日本人却让我们觉得自己是个大麻烦。并非要抨击日本，但中国以其真诚、保存完好的文化和热情好客的人民胜出。科技也先进得多。
 
iseeyou19
I heard a quote recently that matches your experience: “Japanese people are polite but not kind whereas Chinese people are kind but not polite.”
 
我最近听到一句话，和你的体验不谋而合：“日本人讲礼貌但不一定友善，而中国人很友善但未必拘泥于礼节。”