中国“朱雀三号”火箭发射回收失败

@sailingadventurer
People in this comment section don’t realize how big of an achievement this is for a company, just because it’s Chinese lol. Delivering a payload to orbit and doing a controlled re entry on the first try with a Falcon 9 sized rocket is an achievement. Yes, the landing failed, but they came very close to nailing it. And yeah it's not a Temu Falcon 9, it's a Methalox rocket with Stainless steel body, as opposed to Falcon 9's kerolox & aluminium body

评论区里的人似乎没意识到这对一家公司来说是一项多么了不起的成就，仅仅因为它是中国公司就这么轻视它，真是可笑。用一枚猎鹰 9 号大小的火箭，第一次尝试就成功将有效载荷送入轨道并实现受控再入，这本身就是一项了不起的成就。没错，着陆失败了，但他们已经非常接近成功了。而且，这枚火箭不是 Temu 公司的猎鹰 9 号，而是一枚使用甲醇液氧燃料、不锈钢箭体的火箭，而猎鹰 9 号使用的是煤油液氧燃料和铝合金箭体。




@betongameindonesia
beside of your sanity i dont know what else they steal. even elon himself is ok if other company will copy their working design. its rocket anyway pointy end up flamy end down you cant make rocket other way around tho.

除了你的理智，我不知道他们还偷了什么。就连埃隆·马斯克本人也乐见其他公司抄袭他们的有效设计。反正火箭就是这样，尖头朝上，火焰朝下，你总不能把火箭反过来造吧。



@bordeaux1962
Look, once a German company invented the automobil. And the Americans have stolen the concept. Same with modern  rockets, just to  mention it.

你看，当年汽车是一家德国公司发明的，结果美国人窃取了这个概念。现代火箭也是如此，顺便提一下。



@ongsengkee2530
Their goal is within reach..they will achieve it
他们的目标触手可及，他们一定能够实现。




@zgvip
我也听专家根据最后坠落视频分析了一下，专家说的有干货。确实，如果朱雀3进入回收过程时前几个姿态调整失败了，根本不可能坠落到预定回收圆心这么近的地方，这次最后都坠落在预设10环的9环上了，所以应该是小故障。起码成功了8，9成了。专家说因为朱雀3号返程时需要做一个难度更大的翻滚动作，所以有难度，但是翻滚动作应该是成功了，所以最后才坠落在了回收点的“9环”上，也即问题是出在最后的部分。更期待下次发射回收了。




@leosmi1
Congrats China. Cheers from Brazil!

恭喜中国！来自巴西的问候！



@jpmkiv
Great content! thanks for covering all this so I don't have to dig all day.

内容太棒了！感谢你把这些都整理出来，这样我就不用整天自己去查资料了。




@rickace132
It took Spacex many attempts to finally land, so it's okay. They will eventually get it right.

SpaceX 尝试了很多次才最终成功着陆，所以没关系。他们最终会成功的。




@favesongslist
Thank you so much for all this info on the Chinese attempts to build reusable 1st stage rockets.
Love the tee Shirt design, all the best from the UK.

非常感谢您提供的关于中国尝试制造可重复使用一级火箭的所有信息。
很喜欢这件 T 恤的设计，祝你一切顺利，来自英国。


@Benjibluebill
Wish we had more footage of landing
真希望我们能有更多着陆的影像资料。



@z30_HUNGARY
It's basically the NG-1 scenario. Company with some kind of past experience with rockets tries to launch to orbit and land the first stage, successfully achieving orbit, but narrowly failing the landing. Next flight of Zhuque-3 has a very high chance of complete success IMO.

这基本上就是 NG-1 的情况。一家有过火箭发射经验的公司尝试将火箭送入轨道并回收第一级，成功入轨，但着陆时险些失败。我认为，朱雀三号的下一次飞行很有可能完全成功。




@KeyboardMoment
I can't articulate how much I love this development in spaceflight. Too many people are denouncing this launch vehicle just because it's Chinese. I see this a huge win for widespread introduction of reusability beyond simply SpaceX and the broader lowering of costs in orbit that will one day allow normal civilians to send something or even themselves into outer space.
Let the era of widespread reusability begin.

我无法用语言表达我对航天领域这一进展的喜爱之情。太多人仅仅因为这款运载火箭是中国的就对其嗤之以鼻。我认为这对于 SpaceX 以外的航天器可重复使用性技术的广泛应用以及轨道成本的全面降低来说，都是一次巨大的胜利。未来，普通民众或许也能将物品甚至自己送入太空。
让广泛可重复利用的时代开启吧。


@kimmokannala4576
It is great that they try to start to reuse and use methane as a fuel. It is environmentally the right way.
But they can do it only via copying others.

他们尝试开始回收利用甲烷作为燃料，这非常好。这才是对环境负责的做法。
但他们只能通过模仿他人来实现这一点。

They might change one day. But it will take more decades.

或许有一天它们会改变，但这需要几十年的时间。


@siroyiryuu
 @kimmokannala4576  Brainless nonsense, they were the first company to achieve the launch of methane fueled rockets into orbit. Who did they imitate?
@kimmokannala4576 


真是胡说八道，他们是第一家成功将甲烷燃料火箭送入轨道的公司。他们模仿谁了？


@acidtreat101
Congratz to Landspace! That's a heck of a good try for their first attempt at a landing. And a successful payload deployment apparently. Chinese or not, it's good to see reusability being attempted in space instead of just throwing everything away.

恭喜Landspace航天公司！他们首次尝试着陆就取得了如此佳绩，真是令人惊叹。而且有效载荷部署似乎也很成功。无论是否是中国公司，看到太空探索领域尝试可重复使用性而不是一次性丢弃所有东西，总是件好事。



@goupigoupi6953
The landing burn clearly set something on fire. So it wasn't entirely a failure.

着陆时的燃烧显然引燃了某些东西。所以，这并非完全是一次失败。



@Craneyo
The new space race is here!

新一轮太空竞赛开始了！


@benedictmarshall7031
Congratulations. Quite an accomplishment. Great to see some competition.

恭喜！真是了不起的成就！很高兴看到有竞争。



@Cathay_Dragon
long live human race，respect to every step we reach to the space

人类万岁，致敬我们迈向太空的每一步



@porroapp
Like for the presenter. Much more salient and to the point than some of the previous mumbling lot. Glad to see NSF upgrading the talent.

很喜欢这位主持人。比之前那些喋喋不休的人思路清晰、切中要点得多。很高兴看到国家科学基金会提升了人才水平。



@calvinkong2599
Not bad every launch gaining much alot data and experince .. I'm sure it will success on these programs

每次发布都积累了大量数据和经验，还不错……我相信这些项目会取得成功。


@doug9000
i love when people let aside politics and get excited about human ingenuity and achievement instead, we need more of that. go China!

我喜欢人们抛开政治，转而为人类的智慧和成就感到兴奋，我们需要更多这样的精神。中国加油！

@xushenxin
somehow it caught on fired, no thrust generated at very last moment above the ground. I am very curious what is the problem.

不知何故，它突然起火了，在离地最后一刻却没有产生推力。我很想知道问题出在哪里。


@raenshimura6909
Lol the pain in these comments is so obvious. This is a fantastic first attempt. Very excited to see what they can achieve next.

哈哈，这些评论里的痛苦显而易见。这真是一次很棒的尝试。非常期待他们接下来的表现。


@Zen.Thread
Looking forward to the next successful launch and recovery.

期待下一次成功启动和恢复。



@N3spresso
Reminder that Falcon-9 failed to stick the landing many times too.

别忘了，猎鹰9号火箭也曾多次着陆失败。



@yz6039
I can sense the Chinese state owned rocket team will face incredible competition from the private section soon.

我预感到中国国有火箭团队很快就会面临来自私营领域的巨大竞争。



@sreastronaut9765
That’s already some incredible progress!!! Great targeting! Hopefully they’ll nail the landing next time

这已经是相当惊人的进展了！！！目标定位很棒！希望他们下次能完美着陆



@marsvip
The core point is that if China masters recyclable technology, it will leverage its strong industrial capabilities to reduce the cost of each launch to an incredible level, leaving no American company able to compete with it.

关键在于，如果中国掌握了可回收技术，它将利用其强大的工业能力将每次发射的成本降低到令人难以置信的水平，使任何美国公司都无法与之竞争。



@ryanlee-p1c
More countries using reusable rockets the better

使用可重复使用火箭的国家越多越好



@DavidBale-vn4op
Breaking Back Engineering

突破性工程



@simonyapp
Fantastic progress well done to everyone with the enormous amount of hours and hard work to get to that stage

取得了巨大的进步，感谢所有人的辛勤付出和大量时间投入，才达到这个阶段。




@masterkoi29
Watched out, once they do another launched for reusable rocket, they will become successful. As if they can't do it, other two Chinese companies will made it happen and the intense competition for Chinese rocket launch company will get competitive

注意了，一旦他们再次成功发射可重复使用火箭，他们就会获得成功。即便他们做不到，其他两家中国公司也会做到，届时中国火箭发射企业的竞争将更加激烈。




@fromonhigh891
I honestly almost ripped my hair out after having to watch that animation of the landing burn replay itself 20 fucking times

说真的，看了那段着陆燃烧动画回放20遍之后，我差点儿把头发都扯下来了。



@KevinTheCaravanner
Could 2025 be the last year the USA launches more rockets than China?

2025年会不会是美国火箭发射数量超过中国的最后一年？


@bmk8018
China actually has quite a competitive private aerospace sector. it's just a matter of time.

中国的民营航空航天业其实很有竞争力，这只是时间问题。



@syncRamon
Can you also give an upxe on what is happening in european space providers? Are they planing on building reusables too?

您能否也介绍一下欧洲航天供应商的最新情况？他们是否也计划建造可重复使用的航天器？


@Wordsmiths
I wish they were. There was some discussion of making a reusable engine block (like ULA's semi-reusability strategy) but I don't think that went anywhere... If or when it does, Ryan will find out and tell us!

我希望他们能做到。之前确实讨论过制造可重复使用的发动机缸体（就像 ULA 的半可重复使用策略那样），但我觉得这事儿没下文了……如果真有进展，瑞恩会打听一下然后告诉我们！



@spacepitr
MaiaSpace (part of ArianeGroup) is building a booster vertical landing rocket, with around 500kg payload reusable, 1500kg expendable, some other companies are planning to retrieve boosters/engines using parachutes or doing possible future 2035 concept research of Falcon 9 like rockets

MaiaSpace（隶属于 ArianeGroup）正在建造一种助推器垂直着陆火箭，有效载荷约为 500 公斤可重复使用，1500 公斤为一次性使用。其他一些公司计划使用降落伞回收助推器/发动机，或者进行类似猎鹰 9 号火箭的未来概念研究，预计在 2035 年实现。




@briangodfrey7424
By willingly transferring our manufacturing infrastructure to China over the last few decades we have unintentionally invested in their technological development.  To the point where they are pretty much our equals, or so close that it doesn't really matter.  It's a real shame that we cannot cooperate with them and reap the return on our investment.  My congratulations to LandSpace and thanks to NSF for this video.

过去几十年，我们心甘情愿地将制造业基础设施转移到中国，却无意中投资了他们的技术发展。如今，他们的技术水平几乎与我们不相上下，或者说差距如此之小，以至于我们之间的差距已经微乎其微。我们无法与他们合作并从中获益，这实在令人遗憾。在此，我向（LandSpace）表示祝贺，并感谢美国国家科学基金会（NSF）制作了这段视频。



@wenbo595
It was not close.  Something started burning o. The way down. Hope they figure out problem and solution

情况很不妙。有什么东西开始燃烧了。一路向下。希望他们能找到问题所在并解决问题。



@KevinLau-m2p
Soon or later Chinese engineers will master the reusable rocket technology.

中国工程师迟早会掌握可重复使用火箭技术。


Well, get stealing.

那就去偷吧。


@yusufli4604
You are so pathetic.

你真是太可怜了



@oldmanstumpie1061
There's going to be some cheap launches coming soon. That will really shake things up ;-)

很快就会有一些价格低廉的产品上市。这肯定会给市场带来很大的变化 



@Madhuntr
So they did exactly the same as blue origin. Just over Land. lets see if they make it on the second try

所以他们和蓝色起源的做法一模一样，只是这次飞越了陆地。让我们看看他们第二次能不能成功。


@ThatOpalGuy
Gratz China.  You'll have the only space station in orbit,  soon.

恭喜中国！不久之后，你们将拥有世界上唯一的在轨空间站。



@UserDefaultEurope
Very impressive first flight. We in Europe look forward to purchasing flights and seats on Chinese starships. Maybe we can do a space station and solar system things together.

首飞非常精彩。我们欧洲人期待着购买中国航天器的航班和座位。或许我们还能一起探索空间站和太阳系。



@kikyoass
China is less than a decade behind SpaceX but they’re already ahead of NASA

中国比 SpaceX 落后不到十年，但已经领先于 NASA。



@key948
China will just have to try and copy Spacex harder

中国只能更加努力地模仿 SpaceX 了。

@RyanBirke
Everyone focuses on the number of launches but more importantly is the payload to orbit. China has launched 27% of the rockets vs 64% for the US so far this year but only 12% of the payload capacity vs 83% for the US. I do think they will eventually catchup to the US as there are a lot of counties that China can be launching satellites for that the US wouldn't allow US companies to do but they have further to go than the number of launches alone would indicate.

人们都关注发射次数，但更重要的是有效载荷的入轨能力。今年迄今为止，中国的火箭发射次数占全球的27%，而美国占64%，但中国的有效载荷能力仅占12%，而美国则高达83%。我认为中国最终会赶上美国，因为中国可以为很多国家发射卫星，而美国却不允许美国公司这样做。但仅从发射次数来看，中国还有很长的路要走。




@whatissixbynine
I don't think there are a lot of countries that US would not work with and certainly that don't have big purse. Do you know notable exceptions?

我不认为美国会拒绝与很多国家合作，尤其是那些经济实力不强的国家。你知道有哪些值得注意的例外吗？



@RyanBirke
 @whatissixbynine  North Korea, Iran, and Venezuela to name a few. Also I can see Russia and China doing joint space project.
@whatissixbynine 

例如朝鲜、伊朗和委内瑞拉。我还认为俄罗斯和中国可能会开展联合太空项目。


@pineapplesareyummy6352
To succeed, you first have to fail and learn. BTW, it shouldn't just be the US and China doing this. Monopoly or duopoly are bad. There should be more players from around the world from Europe, Russia and India at the very least.

要想成功，首先要经历失败并从中吸取教训。顺便说一句，不应该只有美国和中国在做这件事。垄断或双头垄断都是不好的。至少应该有来自欧洲、俄罗斯和印度等世界各地的更多参与者



@biodieseler1
4 years ago, who'd have thought that russia's space industry would dwindle to almost nothing and China would take their place?

四年前，谁会想到俄罗斯的航天工业会萎缩到几乎消失殆尽，而中国会取而代之呢？


@cogoid
Four years ago China has already landed rovers on Mars and Moon, brought Moon samples back, and launched their space station. Multiple private companies were developing reusable rockets. It's was already pretty wild. 

四年前，中国已经成功将探测车送上火星和月球，带回了月球样本，并发射了空间站。多家民营企业也在研发可重复使用的火箭。这在当时已经相当了不起了。

Meanwhile when Russians talk about space, they are mostly proud about the Sputnik in 1957 and Gagarin in 1961. Their most recent scientific launch to Mars was in 2011, and it failed early in flight.

与此同时，当俄罗斯人谈到太空时，他们最引以为豪的是1957年的人造卫星“斯普特尼克”号和1961年的加加林号。他们最近一次火星科学发射是在2011年，但那次发射在飞行初期就失败了。


@biodieseler1
​@cogoid  True. Hopefully the modern world is headed towards a technologically fuelled age of abundance within 10 years, yet most Russians outside Moscow and St.Petersburg don't even have an indoor toilet. Putin's obsession with trying to re-conquer his way to a new Russian empire has ensured that they will crumble into a third world country, while China and the west become interplanetary.
@cogoid 

说得对。希望现代世界能在十年内迈向科技驱动的富足时代，然而莫斯科和圣彼得堡以外的大多数俄罗斯人甚至连室内厕所都没有。普京痴迷于通过征服来重建俄罗斯帝国，这注定会让俄罗斯沦为第三世界国家，而中国和西方国家则会走向星际。



@masterkoi29
Once a Chinese company succesfully mastered that landing, there's more Chinese company will soon follow. It's a competition between Chinese companies.

一旦某家中国公司成功掌握了落地技巧，就会有更多中国公司效仿。这是一场中国公司之间的竞争。



@njm3211
SpaceX better not rest on its laurels. These Chinese are not waisting any time.

SpaceX 最好不要沾沾自喜。中国人可没闲着。