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网友:此次展出的J-20战机属于最早批次,配备的是俄制发动机。较新批次已换装国产WS-10C发动机,而最新批次则配备了WS-15发动机。
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此次展出的J-20战机属于最早批次,配备的是俄制发动机。较新批次已换装国产WS-10C发动机,而最新批次则配备了WS-15发动机。
@Carrera6rennsport thats like saying it went form a Lada engine to a Chery engine...lol
这就好比说它从拉达(译者注:Lada拉达,俄罗斯经典汽车品牌,其发动机技术在大众认知中多与 “早期、技术相对基础” 相关联)发动机换成了奇瑞(Chery)发动机……哈哈。
@Gongolongo I don't think they use Russian engines anymore. These are the early WS-10 not the C. AL-31's have been out of service ages ago.
我觉得他们现在已经不用俄制发动机了。这些用的是早期的WS-10,而不是WS-10C。AL-31早就退役多年了。
@fbaLamon I like how you give respect where it’s due. Underestimating the enemy isn’t a sign of strength.
我欣赏你这种该尊重时就尊重的态度。轻视敌人绝非实力的体现。
@amunra5330 Well said.
说得好。
@agungprasetyo2665 Too many Americans have tge Zelen Tzu ways.. not the Suntzu ways
太多美国人奉行的是圣泽连子那套,而非孙子的思想。(感谢各位网友的建议,确实翻译成泽连子更贴切)
@miguelgordillo7561 Overestimation is also an (expensive) problem, as the first Cold wart taught us.
正如第一次冷战给我们的教训所示,高估对手同样是个代价高昂的问题。
@Gongolongo @miguelgordillo7561 is just expecting this thing to perform like a fifth gen a gross overestimation?
@miguelgordillo7561 只是期待这东西能表现出第五代战机的水平,这是否属于严重高估?
@kaboose111 Basically, don't be Mover lMao.
说白了,别当个“Mover”啊,笑死。
@QuangDo-b9r If you can kill the other guy with beyond visual range missiles (PL-15, PL-17, PL-21, ...), then you don't need dogfight. Like a sniper with a scope rifle. You don't need to engage in a hand to hand combat.
如果你能用超视距导弹(如PL-15、PL-17、PL-21等)干掉对方,那就根本不需要进入近身格斗。这就像是狙击手拿着带瞄准镜的步枪——你没必要跟敌人贴身肉搏。
@WannabeRich2025 Modern fighter jets no need to do dog fights just kill at first sight
现代战斗机无需进行格斗,发现即摧毁。
@juhao356 USA likes near combat like marvel movies although obviously Stark can manufacture ion cannon for everyone
美国喜欢像漫威电影那样的近距离战斗场景,尽管很明显,斯塔克完全可以给所有人都造出离子炮
@yomiyama @juhao356 , guess what happens when it's stealth vs stealth? Exactly — back to dogfighting. You'll need to get closer and closer due to the small radar cross section and it's a point when you get within visual range in less than a minute due to the speeds involved. On paper — China supposedly has stealth too, so America takes these claims seriously even if the claims are overblown.
@juhao356,猜猜看当隐身战机对阵隐身战机时会发生什么?没错——又得回到格斗战。由于双方雷达反射截面积都很小,你不得不越靠越近,而以现代战机的速度,不到一分钟就会进入目视距离。理论上,中国据称也拥有隐身战机,因此美国会认真对待这些说法,哪怕这些说法可能被夸大了。
@kin9267
@yomiyama 你错了,即便是五代机之间对战依旧是超视距对战,五代机在预警机帮助下会降级为四代机,之后就是四代机之间的超视距作战了
@uzuki_7777 @yomiyama dude still living in the cold war, well even at that time awacs has already existed lMao
@yomiyama 这哥们还活在冷战时代呢,但就算在那个年代,预警机早就已经存在了,笑死。
@yomiyama @kin9267 , AWACS aren't magical obxts. The radar power needed to detect even an old F117 at BVR ranges is in the Gigawatts. More than 90% of most of the radar spectrum is absorbed by stealth skin and the rest is dispersed by the stealth geometry the philosophy of which the J20 absolutely doesn't follow (intakes still aligned with engines, canards, non-aligned wing geometry, etc etc). It doesn't matter what you want to believe in — physics stay the same in America and China alike.
@kin9267,预警机并不是什么魔法道具。要在超视距范围内探测到哪怕是老旧的F-117,所需的雷达功率都得达到吉瓦级别。隐身涂层会吸收绝大部分(超过90%)的雷达波频谱,而剩余部分则会被隐身外形设计所散射——而J-20恰恰没有遵循这种隐身设计理念(进气道仍与发动机直接对齐、采用鸭翼、机翼几何形状未做对齐处理等等)。不管你愿意相信什么,物理定律在美国和中国都是一样的。
@jchantw U forgot the Vietnam war, the USAF said the same thing n top gun was born out of their lessons learnt.. you can run out of missiles then your just a sitting duck, esp j20 w 6 missiles only
你忘了越南战争了——当年美国空军也说过同样的话,而“ TOP GUN”(此处翻译成王牌飞行员训练项目还是壮志凌云?)正是从他们吸取的教训中诞生的。导弹是会打光的,一旦耗尽,你就成了活靶子,尤其是像J-20这样只携带6枚导弹的战机。
@viethoangtruong54 @kin9267 Your fantasy will only come true if AWACS is around all the time which it is not. In fact it will be shot down right at the start of the battle. So in the end, dogfighting will become the real thing again which is why the J-35 is focused on, unlike the cumbersom weapon platform that is the J-20.
@kin9267,你的幻想只有在预警机始终在场的情况下才能实现,但现实并非如此。事实上,预警机很可能在战斗一开始就遭到击落。因此,最终空战还是会回归到格斗,这也是为什么中国更专注于J-35——而不是像J-20那样笨重的武器平台。
@hi-jony @yomiyama You think we're still in the era of single-plane dogfights? Haven't you seen the fighter formations China has unveiled? A J-20, an unmanned wingman, and a highly agile 4.5-generation fighter flying as a team! If an enemy stealth jet closes in, the one that dogfights it will be the 4.5-gen fighter—while the J-20 stays back, boosting command and fire-support.
@yomiyama 你以为现在还是单机格斗的时代吗?你没看到中国已经展示的战斗机编队吗?一架J-20、一架无人僚机,再加上一架高机动性的4.5代战机,三者协同作战!如果敌方隐身战机逼近,负责与其格斗的是那架4.5代战机——而J-20则在后方提供指挥与火力支援。
@whitewhite-sr2xk
@yomiyama 所谓隐形,只是针对那些连雷达都做不出来的小国家, 而针对中美俄这种国家,不存在隐形这一说法,只是发现的距离变短,原来500公里发现,现在300公里发现,, 这就是俄乌战争su57 也好,F35也好,都只敢在防区外发发导弹。
@chir0pter 12:44 "My jet has lambo doors"
12:44 “我的战机装了兰博基尼式剪刀门。”
@gothamantiquities2595 Hey Max, it was doing the Nate Diaz flex with the Canards down!
嘿,Max,它刚才放下鸭翼,摆出了内特·迪亚兹(译者注:内特・迪亚兹,美国知名综合格斗运动员,曾效力于 UFC,以敢打敢拼的风格和赛后常做出的挑衅性、极具个人特色的肢体动作,如张开双臂、表情张扬的姿态闻名)式的炫耀姿势!
@Upgraydez I'm a bit of a knuckle dragging, mouth breather, but when the J-20 was maneuvering at 5:53, u could see the slats on front edge of the rear wing extending. I'm sure most modern aircraft have all sorts of tech to change the shape of the flight surfaces, but it's cool to see them all working in unison to maneuver the plane in live flight. I wonder how they look when under Max Afterburner! LOL
我这人虽说有点迟钝笨拙,但当J-20在5分53秒做机动时,你能清楚看到后翼前缘的缝翼正在展开。我知道大多数现代战机都配备了各种技术来改变飞行翼面的形状,但亲眼看到它们在实际飞行中协同工作、操控飞机,还是相当酷的!真好奇它们在开足加力燃烧室(最大加力)时会是什么样子!哈哈!
@eeNPeeCee yea leading edge slats r a thing with every fighter nowadays
是的,如今所有战斗机都配备前缘缝翼,这是很常见的配置了。
@ThatGuySyndrome I think were at the point that if you can detect an enemy airplane at any distance, and know the general location of said target, anyone can just shoot a missile in the general area and the missile itself is going to be able to find the target and go in for the kill. Stealth doesnt mean invisibe.
我觉得现在已经到了这样一个阶段:只要你能在任何距离上探测到敌机,并大致掌握目标的位置,任何人都可以朝那个大致区域发射一枚导弹,而导弹自己就能锁定目标并完成击杀。隐身并不等于隐形。
@evityl-of9dp
你大概说的没错,中国已经把空对空导弹带到400-1000公里射程了。并且已经装备,现在美国空军终于开始让兰德公司开始分析可行性了。
@chunyuou9944 It’s a DSI intake my friend so it’s a 5th gen intake same shape with f 22 raptor f35 j31.
伙计,那是DSI进气道,属于第五代战机的进气设计,和F-22“猛禽”、F-35、J-31的进气道形状一样。
@I_feel_just_like_a_rockstar Not on the F-22.
F-22可没有
@RichardsMiscCorner isn't it only the F35 that has a DSI?
难道只有F-35才有DSI进气道吗?
@OmegaMutant-h8e Max looks like a G.I. Joe. That Jawline is better engineered than any jet he's reviewed.
Max看起来就像个特种部队(G.I. Joe)角色,他的下颌线条比他评测过的任何战机都更精致。
@DisHammerhand Maybe it's the length but the engines seem small.
也许是机身长度的原因,但发动机看起来有点小。
@zzzaccounting5924 Love your vids, man.
老兄,超爱看你的视频!
@kevinjesko6964 Coming from an American, all aircraft are designed to fit within a respective doctrine. People in the comments making fun of the J20s maneuverability are missing the point, it’s optimized for BVR and kill chains, where maneuverability is a secondary concern to things like electronic warfare, sensors, and data sharing capabilities. The J10 shot down the Rafale, not because it was more maneuverable, but because it leveraged these technologies to defeat the Rafale from well beyond visual range. China has demonstrated a willingness to learn from existing technologies in other countries to rapidly mature their own technologies to a point where they can go toe to toe with modern 4th generation NATO aircraft, without ending up like that SU35 in Kursk. That is an accomplishment that deserves credit. I’m not saying the J20 is better than the F22 or F35, but it is a strong showing for Chinas first stealth aircraft ever, and definitely better than the SU57.
作为一个美国人,我想说:所有战机的设计都是围绕各自国家的作战条令展开的。评论区里那些嘲笑J-20机动性的人其实没抓住重点——它被优化用于超视距作战和杀伤链体系,在这种体系中,机动性只是次要因素,电子战能力、传感器性能以及数据共享能力才更为关键。J-10之所以能击落阵风,并非因为它更灵活,而是因为它利用这些技术在远超目视距离之外就完成了打击。 中国已展现出一种明确的意愿:借鉴他国现有技术,快速推动自身装备成熟,从而达到能与北约现役第四代战机正面抗衡的水平,而不会重蹈库尔斯克那架SU-35的覆辙。这是一项值得肯定的成就。 我并不是说J-20比F-22或F-35更强,但作为中国首款隐身战机,它的表现已经相当出色,而且毫无疑问优于SU-57。
@karmac-v1i its true, the larger airfrx of J-20 is purposed for E-warfare and non-close air combat scenario. The J-20 in one on one with F-22 will most likely loose, but J-20 doesn't want to get that near I think. Think recent Pakky and Indy game
确实如此,J-20更大的机体正是为了电子战和非近距空战场景而设计的。 如果J-20与F-22进行一对一格斗,很可能处于下风,但我想J-20根本不想靠那么近。 想想最近巴基斯坦和印度之间的空战吧。
@ctweight J-20 is designed to fly in a straight line at American carriers and deploy weapons. Hence why the frontal profile is more important.
J-20 的设计目的是沿直线飞向美国航母并投放武器,因此其正面轮廓更为重要。
@AdamElohim Although I also love watching the intense close-quarters dogfights in Top Gun where fighters twist and tangle with each other, the reality is that both sides detect, lock on, fire, and disengage from a thousand miles away in one seamless sequence—never even catching sight of the enemy.
尽管我也很喜欢《壮志凌云》(Top Gun)中那种激烈的近距离格斗场面,战机翻滚缠斗、惊险刺激,但现实情况是:双方往往在上千英里之外就完成探测、锁定、发射和脱离,整个过程一气呵成——甚至从未亲眼见过敌机。
@DeeegerD You've got 3 minutes. Go!
你还有三分钟,开始吧!
@Alexanderkowaliuk-s7i Also I think your mustache could take that thing out on its own
而且我觉得,单凭你那撮胡子,说不定都能搞定那玩意儿。
@Ezrasghost That thing is massive. It’s as big as the awacs flying next to it.
那玩意儿真他么大,跟旁边飞着的预警机一样大。
@thelastlatchkeykid8466 16:11 how do the intakes not look diverterless to you? It’s literally one of the most identifiable features of the plane as a whole.
16:11 你怎么会觉得那些进气道看起来不像DSI呢?这明明是整架飞机最具辨识度的特征之一。
@foodparadise5792 Imagine an alien attack, American soldiers have no choice but fly the J-20 and Chinese soldiers the F22....and saw each other in the sky.
想象一下外星人入侵,美国士兵别无选择只能驾驶J-20,而中国士兵则驾驶F-22……然后双方在空中相遇了。
@Gongolongo Brother put the bong down
兄弟,把烟枪放下吧。
@muleskinnerfilms6719 Again, great report
再次感谢,精彩的报道!
@SDsc0rch 9:04 --- wiggle wiggle wiggle! what's up with that!
9:04 —— 扭起来!扭起来!扭起来! 这是怎么回事啊!
@iprfitness Excellent breakdown as always brother, really appreciate it
一如既往地精彩解析,兄弟,真的非常感谢!
@RichardsMiscCorner This was a nice overview - some of your other ones I thought you slid into condescension a little too much, but I loved your breakdown on this one. nice vid. I noticed some exhaust coming out of the engines as well, doesn't that show an efficiency problem still with the jet engines. i guess we have no idea what version of J-20 this is - is it with WS-15 or WS-10's or even still with the russian original engines. I doubt they showed everyone exactly what they really have. Also in regards to the intakes - they are DSI and similar to the F-35's - so certainly stealthy from the front. though I think you nailed it when you said these designers probably only cared about front stealth. I guess you have to think about priorities - usually American fighters have to work in multi-roles defense and strike - so the stealth priority is different. China probably thinks it's fighters like the J-20 would be used more in defensive roles. Thus front facing.
这期内容概述得非常好!你之前有些视频我觉得略带一点居高临下的语气,但这次的解析我特别喜欢,视频很棒。 我还注意到发动机喷口有明显的尾气排出,这是否说明这款战机的发动机在效率方面仍存在问题?当然,我们其实并不清楚这架J-20具体是哪个版本——装的是WS-15、WS-10,还是甚至仍在使用俄制原装发动机。我怀疑他们并没有向外界完全展示真实实力。 另外关于进气道——它们确实是DSI设计,和F-35类似,因此正面确实具备良好的隐身性能。我觉得你说得很对:这些设计师很可能只关注了正面隐身。 或许我们应该从任务优先级的角度来思考:美国战斗机通常需要兼顾多用途任务,包括防空和对地打击,因此对全向隐身的要求更高;而中国可能认为像J-20这样的战机更多用于防御性任务,所以重点优化正面隐身就足够了。
@heks128 Good looking palae though, ngl
不过说实话,这外形还挺不错的。
@user-gd2vh5vo6t I don't about others but i saw a American based aircraft with possible plasma gun
我不知道别人怎么样,但我看到一架可能是美国制造的飞机,上面似乎装了等离子炮。
@cshader2488 I've always thought that the retiring A-10CII's we use should be gifted to Ukraine. Not in a ground attack role but in a drone hunter role over the homeland with those new APKWS drone-rockets
我一直认为,我们正在退役的A-10CII应该赠送给乌克兰——不是用于对地攻击任务,而是用于在其本土上空执行“无人机猎杀”任务,搭配那些新型APKWS无人机火箭弹。
@joshualeespiny7172 10:51 from this angle you can visually tell that this is an older model of the J-20. More advanced variants like the J-20A have a redesigned airfrx around the cockpit and are supposed to have the WS-15 engines that have serrated nozzles with thrust vectoring and more thrust output. The air intakes on both models also are also diverterless supersonics like the F-35, so I'm not sure what you're talking about it not being as stealthy a design.
10:51 从这个角度可以明显看出,这是一架较早期的J-20型号。更先进的改型(如J-20A)在座舱周围采用了重新设计的机体结构,并据称配备了WS-15发动机——该发动机具备锯齿状喷口、推力矢量能力和更高的推力输出。此外,这两个型号的进气道都采用的是类似F-35的无附面层隔道超音速进气道(DSI),所以我不太明白你所说的“隐身设计没那么好”到底是基于什么依据。
@pilot4life15 funny how the most advanced air superiority fighter acording to the *** already has been redesigned. f-22 is 35 years old no redesignes.
有意思的是,据***宣称最先进的制空战斗机居然这么快就已经重新设计了,而F-22都35年了却从未进行过重新设计。(***政党或名字 上下同)
@joshualeespiny7172 @pilot4life15 we also won't be getting any more of them
@pilot4life15 我们也不会再获得更多的这种战机了。
@borinvlogs @pilot4life15 China is getting about 800 of these, pretty sure they will change design, adapt new things and make improvements throughout it's production
@pilot4life15 中国将生产大约800架这种战机,几乎可以肯定会在整个生产过程中不断改进设计、引入新技术并持续优化。
@KittyCat-nv9nd Max is a clown. He would say anything to belittle Chinese planes. LOL
Max就是个小丑,为了贬低中国战机什么话都说得出来,哈哈。
@Gongolongo @pilot4life15 we do upgrade our fighters you know....TR3 is going to need an airfrx modification too. Idk what you're high on
@pilot4life15 我们也是会升级自家战斗机的好吧……TR-3 也需要对机体结构进行改装。真不知道你到底在嗨什么。
@TitaniumOg-t2e @Gongolongo Chinese rare earth minerals exports control. They stopped Ford cars assembly lines. The Chinese are currently targeting the U s military manufacturing. No more weapons for the U s
@Gongolongo 中国对稀土矿产出口实施管制,曾一度导致福特汽车的生产线停工。如今,中国正针对美国军事制造业,美国将再也无法获得武器供应。
@jason59k55 it does not have the WS-15 but instead the WS-10C2, which is widely believed to have creeped the old performance specs of the WS-15.
它并没有配备WS-15,而是搭载了WS-10C2,而这款发动机被广泛认为已经悄悄达到了早期WS-15的性能指标。
@RichardsMiscCorner @pilot4life15 @pilot4life15, the iteration rate and speed of change in the Chinese military is a little insane. They are technically on their third "block" of J-20s. or forth. The F-35 for instance, is on block 2? what do you mean airplanes don't get changes?
@pilot4life15 中国军队的迭代速度和改进节奏简直有点疯狂。J-20在技术上已经发展到第三个“批次”(block),甚至可能是第四个了。而像F-35,目前才到Block 2吧?你居然说飞机不会有什么改动?
@aungaisum8654 Fly pass Korea yet not detected dude
飞越韩国却未被发现,兄弟。
@aungaisum8654 F35 is a fat joke
F-35就是个笑话,胖得可笑。
@OrbvsTomarvm looks like a dogs dinner to me.
在我看来,这玩意儿简直一团糟。
@FlyingBuzzard Big Target is what I see ( not stealthy )
我看到的是个大靶子(一点也不隐身)。
@pk3778 stealth my azz, I will put my money on the MiG-31BM (supersonic,near space awacs) combination with Su-57 and a close-in-combat Mig-29 mop-up...What matter is, how and when you use your assets, but that idea that you are simply just stealth is ---NONSENSICAL....
隐身?别逗了!我更愿意把赌注押在MiG-31BM(超音速、近太空预警平台)与Su-57的组合,再配上近距离格斗的MiG-29进行清场……关键在于你如何以及何时运用你手中的装备,而那种认为“只要隐身就万事大吉”的想法——根本就是无稽之谈……
@FlyingBuzzard @pk3778 give me an aircraft that defeats radar and will wipe out the assets that can not see it . LOL
@pk3778 给我一架能彻底压制雷达、并摧毁那些根本看不见它的敌方装备的战机吧。哈哈!
@5133937 They have an odd wobble when they roll, as if the canards aren't perfectly aligned with the vector of motion or something.
它们在滚转时有一种奇怪的晃动,就好像鸭翼与运动方向没有完全对齐似的。
@yuqin405 Guy, you definitely could go to the show next year. I believe you will get in.
伙计,你明年绝对可以去参加那场展会。我相信你能进去的。
@WannabeRich2025 Yup seeing is believing.
没错,眼见为实。
@RustenCurrie "Depart flight" :)
起飞航班
@PaulGualtieri-m6v Wow. About the size of a WWII medium bomber
哇,差不多有一架二战中型轰炸机那么大。 @陈宫-k4m 这不是很正常吗?中国的战斗机需要前出关岛附近,没有巨大的机身怎么能装下更多的燃油。
@chrisgriffith1573 This airshow... is just showing the J-20 flying... like just ... f l y i n g... no split S's... no headstands... it does roll?
这场航展……就只是展示了J-20在飞……真的就只是在飞……没有Split-S半滚倒转机动……没有倒立筋斗……它到底会不会滚转啊?
@LL-rm8xt Enjoyed your unbias analysis....
很欣赏你客观中立的分析。
@Cornjar41 Dude in a Dragon shirt with a strap. Yellow shirt pockydot hat. Girl with long hair khaki hat... Shows them at least 3 times in the crowd while it's taxing... It's fake as foook!!!
穿龙纹图案 T 恤、斜挎着包的家伙。穿黄色衬衫、戴波点帽的人。留长发、戴卡其色帽子的女孩…… 在(飞机)滑行的时候,镜头至少给了人群里这几个人三次特写…… 这也太假了吧!
@dawuid1491 Your commentary and the video are not synced. At least the early sections.
你的解说和视频对不上,至少在前面几段是这样。
@smoothpoon86 Looks like a Lamborghini
看起来像一辆兰博基尼。
@temper44 Doesn't it look a bit like a Mig-31 from some angles?
从某些角度看,它是不是有点像Mig-31?
@amunra5330 It doesn't.
一点也不像。
@paulantonio740 I wouldn't call the J-20 elegant but it's an impressive aircraft nonetheless.
我不会用“优雅”来形容J-20,但它仍然是一架令人印象深刻的飞机。
@EvilSkeltos Telephone Pole size missiles!!!! I guess it's hard to tell the actual size of these fighter jets by watching clips from my phone...
导弹居然有电线杆那么粗!!!我猜用手机看这些战机的视频片段,确实很难判断它们的真实尺寸……
@leeming2781 Length 21 m
长度21米
@leeming2781 Maximum speed: Mach 2.0, 2,130 km/h
最大速度:2.0马赫,2130公里/小时
@Jacky_Loke 1000 social credit point to you!
给你加1000社会信用分!
@jomimosa I’m gonna be honest I love the way the plane looks. I imagine if they somehow got thrust vectoring it’d be pretty gnarly in a dogfight. F22 > everyone else
我得老实说,我真的很喜欢这架飞机的外观。 我想象一下,如果它哪天装上了推力矢量系统,在格斗中肯定会相当凶悍。 不过F-22还是强过其他所有战机。
@xmen2130 Organize a fight like what WBA, WBC does. Just all speculation means zilch, waste of time. Just do it and fight….like in the good old western movies.
搞一场像WBA、WBC那样的对决吧。光靠猜测毫无意义,纯属浪费时间。直接干一场,就像老西部电影里那样真刀真枪地打一架……
@cashear1759 This guy think that China don’t have advance Avionics
这家伙以为中国没有先进的航空电子设备。
@badboymorales Why does it look so slow. Its giant. I bet a small f16 can fly circles around this huge plane
为什么它看起来这么慢?它体型那么庞大,我打赌一架小小的F-16都能绕着这架巨无霸转圈飞。
@bertg.6056 Very interesting commentary, Ryan. Thanks for lending some of your expertise.
瑞安,你的解说非常有意思,感谢分享你的专业见解。
@vladimirmihnev9702 Every time someone decided that guns are no longer needed, it turned out that they are. So ... And in the end its better to have it and not need it then need it and have only empty pilons and bays.
每次有人断定机炮不再需要时,结果都证明其实还是需要的。所以嘛…… 归根结底,有备无患总比需要用到时却发现挂架和弹舱空空如也要好得多。 @陈宫-k4m 别开玩笑了,中国射程最 近的飞弹PL15都能在200KM距离击落印度阵风战机,还要机炮有啥用?J20带的PL17射程是450KM以上。
@____MC____ All they can do is looksmax
他们除了“颜值拉满”之外啥也干不了。
@うえんとわす J20 is eye candy for MQ28
J-20 对 MQ-28 而言,不过是徒有其表的“视觉甜点”
@JayBeeNYC There is a warning printed in the cockpit....For Air Shows Only
座舱里印着一行警告:“仅限航展使用”。
@chumpthetraitor7331 Still can't beat F-35 falling from the sky
还是比不上F-35摔机的本事啊。
@NomadicDreamer3949 @chumpthetraitor7331 There are more 2,000 F-35s flying around the world with a few accidents. In contrast, more F-16 crashed. How many J-20s flying every day?
@chumpthetraitor7331 全球有超过2000架F-35在飞行,只发生了少数几起事故。相比之下,F-16的坠毁数量更多。那J-20每天又有多少架在飞呢?
@JayBeeNYC @chumpthetraitor7331 China Knocks Off Russian Weaponry and they sprinkle a little stolen Western Tech. End result, They are a decade behind in Engine Tech so whatever they build will be sitting on 2000-10 tech. Oh and they have Zero experience Humans and machines
@chumpthetraitor7331 中国仿制俄罗斯武器,再掺点偷来的西方技术。最终结果是,他们在发动机技术上落后了十年,所以无论造出什么,用的都是2000年代初甚至更老的技术。哦对了,他们还完全没有人员与装备协同作战的实际经验。
@chumpthetraitor7331 @JayBeeNYC sure and Russia fight with shovels and Japan copied US and US copied the Germans. Cry harder.
@JayBeeNYC 当然啦,俄罗斯打仗靠铁锹,日本抄美国,美国又抄德国。哭得再惨点吧。
@chumpthetraitor7331 @NomadicDreamer3949 how many countries buy J20? Keep crying, love your tears
@NomadicDreamer3949 有多少国家买了J-20?继续哭吧,我超爱看你们流泪。
@eLouminati_13 @chumpthetraitor7331 beta test the J-20 in Venezuela. Let’s see how it does. ♂️
@chumpthetraitor7331 去委内瑞拉实战测试一下J-20吧,看看它到底表现如何。
@kennethlucas6840 @chumpthetraitor7331 Did the US sell the F-22? same case
@chumpthetraitor7331 美国卖过F-22吗?情况是一样的。
@Gongolongo @NomadicDreamer3949 there's only 1300 F-35's but yeah definitely less than the 400 J-20's. Still not an insignificant number considering all 400 is for one country.
@NomadicDreamer3949 F-35目前只有1300架左右,但确实比400架J-20要多。不过考虑到这400架J-20全部都属于一个国家,这个数量也绝不算少了。
@Gongolongo The J-20 very rarely shows up for airshows....
J-20 极少出现在航展上……
@jason59k55 @chumpthetraitor7331 F-35 is one of the most reliable planes in history. just because there is a lot of US bias doesnt mean anti-US bias is suddenly correct.
@chumpthetraitor7331 F-35 是历史上最可靠的飞机之一。不能因为存在大量亲美偏见,就以为反美偏见突然变得正确了。
@JosephKlacik The new era will have a look down space based RADARs. That makes the J20 the second thing in China you can see from space.
新时代将配备俯视式天基雷达,这让J-20成了中国第二个能从太空中被看到的东西。
@danielch6662 No. The Great Wall is not visible from space. And neither is the J20. Not without a telescope. But with a suitable telescope, you could see people. The FAST telescope is a 500m diameter metallic disc in Guizhou. And it isn't moving. At 400km (the height of the ISS), it is 1/8th the size of the full moon. Just imagine what a 6m thick wall looks like from that distance. It's the same as a strand of human hair on the floor, viewed from standing up.
不,长城其实从太空中是看不见的,J-20也一样——除非使用望远镜。但如果有合适的望远镜,你甚至能看清地面上的人。 中国贵州的FAST望远镜是一个直径500米的金属圆盘,而且它是固定不动的。即便如此,在距离地面约400公里(国际空间站的高度)的轨道上,它看起来也只有满月直径的八分之一大小。不妨想象一下,一道6米厚的城墙从那个高度看下去是什么样子——大概就相当于你站着俯视地板上的一根人类头发丝罢了。
@stevemcdonald8809 Are weight limits the reason for no guns?
没有机炮是因为重量限制吗? @陈宫-k4m 别开玩笑了,中国射程最 近的飞弹PL15都能在200KM距离击落印度阵风战机,还要机炮有啥用?J20带的PL17射程是450KM以上。
@anthonyk423 Engines don’t seem like they have a lot of power
发动机看起来动力不太足。
@МаринаСигунова-л3г Next video should be about UAPs (NHI). https://m.youtube.com/shorts/aeKVM4PZN6E
下个视频应该讲讲不明空中现象
@chestermarcol3831 This is like if Perry Como put on an airshow...
这简直就像佩里·科莫办了一场航展……
@chhq3174
没有狗斗的狗哥是不完美的
@Daves_Not_Here_Man_76 Canards are gay - Grandpa BUFF
鸭翼是花里胡哨的玩意儿跟个同性恋一样——BUFF爷爷如是说。
@nobodyhome2318 Looks like a slow flying stiff aircraft. It didn't do any crazy maneuvers and didn't light the burners.
看起来像一架飞行缓慢、僵硬的飞机。它没做任何高难度机动,也没开加力燃烧室。
@leeming2781 The F-22 has a maximum speed of 2400 km/h, while the J-20 has a maximum speed of 2100 km/h. Do you still think the J-20's speed is slow?
F-22的最大速度为2400公里/小时,而J-20的最大速度为2100公里/小时。你还觉得J-20的速度慢吗?
@leeming2781 Decades ago, China was an agricultural country with nothing.
几十年前,中国还是一个一无所有的农业国。
@Spiderman1a Also known as the silly duck.
也被称为“傻鸭子”。
@ryonitv China’s J-20 Mighty Dragon has that pure Decepticon energy. Sleek, sharp, futuristic, it literally looks like it could transform mid-flight.
中国的J-20“威龙”散发着纯正的霸天虎气场——流线锋利、锐意未来,简直就像能在飞行中随时变形一样。
@TitaniumOg-t2e Is this guy an aerospace engineer or a fighter pilot? Just because you are Valentino Rossi doesn't mean you can design a Yamaha R1. Lol. This guy got many people fooled.
这家伙到底是航空航天工程师还是战斗机飞行员? 就算你是瓦伦蒂诺·罗西(Valentino Rossi),也不代表你就能设计雅马哈R1啊。哈哈,这人骗了不少人。
@mtf_savage_beasts2565 He is both ignorant and arrogant.
他既无知又傲慢。
@TitaniumOg-t2e @mtf_savage_beasts2565 this guy is definitely what you mentioned. There's experts that say that the U s will lose 5k troops within the first 5 hours of combat with China. The U s had 5k troops killed or wounded in Afghanistan during the 20 years war with Afghanistan. Going to war with China isn't going to end up good for the US let me tell you that.
@mtf_savage_beasts2565 这家伙绝对就是你提到的那种人。 有专家指出,美军在与中国开战的头5个小时内就可能损失5000名士兵。 相比之下,美国在阿富汗长达20年的战争中,总共才有约5000名士兵阵亡或受伤。 我可以明确告诉你,跟中国开战对美国来说绝不会有好下场。
@KittyCat-nv9nd @mtf_savage_beasts2565 Agreed! He is a clown. I watch him for giggles.
@mtf_savage_beasts2565 同意!他就是个小丑,我看他纯粹是为了图个乐子。
@Baboo12222 @TitaniumOg-t2e to be fair it would be a completely different type of war and not be primarily small arms being used against the US. China can definitely manufacturer but when has made in China been synonymous with quality? With the certain failures and "made in China" reliability itself being a huge factor not to be overlooked.
@TitaniumOg-t2e 公平地说,那将是一场完全不同于以往的战争,主要不会是靠轻武器来对抗美军。 中国确实具备制造能力,但“中国制造”什么时候和“高质量”划过等号呢? 考虑到某些已知的故障问题,以及“中国制造”在可靠性方面本身就是一个不容忽视的重大因素。
@mtf_savage_beasts2565 @TitaniumOg-t2e In Afghanistan it was shoot and scoot, I don't believe that will happen with China.
@TitaniumOg-t2e 在阿富汗,对手打完就跑,但我不认为这种情况会在中国身上发生。
@JamesTucker-vc1cd We know its not stealth China wants the world to believe cant wait to shoot one down that never sees the F22
我们知道它根本不是隐身的,中国只是想让全世界相信它是。真等不及要击落一架——那架连F-22都看不见的战机。
@silafaupaulmeredith7251 Last month one flew right past Japanese radars
上个月,有一架直接从日本雷达眼皮底下飞过。
@wj2888d ok, you just know. any reasoning? no? are you even able to form a coherent argument?
行,你就这么认定了是吧?有什么理由吗?没有?你到底能不能说出一段有条理的话来
@amunra5330 I honestly cant wait for the US to fall......
我真心等不及想看到美国衰落……
@hbc511 F22 old tech. Obsolete
F-22技术老旧,早已过时。
@KittyCat-nv9nd @silafaupaulmeredith7251 J20s flew back and forth thru the heavily defended Tsushima Strait. US radars, Japanese radars and South Korean radars have never detected them.
@silafaupaulmeredith7251 J-20曾多次往返穿越戒备森严的对马海峡,而美国、日本和韩国的雷达都从未发现过它们。
@luluapple1067 Isn’t it crazy China is produce over 120 of these jets annually?
中国每年生产超过120架这种战机,难道不令人震惊吗?
@danielch6662 Feels like they're going to be obsolete in a year or two. They don't have all moving wingtips.
感觉它们一两年内就会被淘汰。它们的翼尖并非全动式设计。
@aptechtvbts642 The criticism in this video is likely made in good faith. However, assuming that the J20 is not a stealth 5th gen fighter is quite reductive. It may have a somewhat/slightly larger RCS than the F22 due to the larger size and, possibly, the canards, but it isn't that far off. Alsom It is valid to say that the J20's butt is less stealthy. However, those intakes are absolutely stealthy, more stealthy than F22, known as DSI. The thing sticking out in the back is probably the parachute.
这段视频中的批评很可能是出于善意的。然而,直接断定J-20不是一款隐身第五代战斗机,这种说法过于片面。 由于机体尺寸更大,或许还因为采用了鸭翼布局,J-20的雷达散射截面(RCS)可能比F-22略大一些,但差距并没有那么悬殊。 另外,说J-20的尾部隐身性能较差,这是有一定道理的。 但它的进气道绝对是高度隐身的,甚至比F-22更先进——那是一种被称为“无附面层隔道超音速进气道”(DSI)的设计。 至于机尾那个突出来的部件,很可能只是减速伞舱。
@EagleTwo758 No shit
废话。
@hkfoo3333 Yes, agreed J20 is not as stealthy as the F22 but can the F22 detect the J20 ? Absolutely no within the fighting bvr range. No stealth can detect another stealth. Then which is better boils down to the features and capabilities of each plane. In these aspects the J20 literally destroys the old unproven F22 in range of coverage, missiles, radar (using GaN with more TR/m) and most important J20 central fusion is far far ahead than the non existent in F22 (role taken over by F35) Actually the F22 is no match for J20 at all.
没错,同意J-20的隐身性能确实不如F-22,但F-22能在超视距交战距离内探测到J-20吗?绝对不能。 隐身战机之间彼此都无法有效探测对方。 那么孰优孰劣,就取决于各自的具体性能和能力了。 在这些方面,J-20可以说全面碾压老旧且未经实战验证的F-22—— 无论是作战半径、导弹性能、雷达(采用氮化镓GaN技术,拥有更多T/R模块),还是最关键的——J-20具备高度先进的传感器融合与信息处理能力,而F-22在这方面几乎为零(其相关任务已由F-35承担)。 事实上,F-22根本不是J-20的对手。
@jason59k55 @hkfoo3333 this is pretty correct honestly. ESPECIALLY for the J-20A/S. F-22 is far overhyped, it is decades old with outdated avionics, even with the upgrades it has had. F-35 still lacks in avionics, a much physically smaller radar with only GaAs technology, and while the F-35 used to have the advantage of the 360 EOTS even that has been nullified now. F-35 only really has the advantage of stealth and cost.
@hkfoo3333 说实话,这个观点相当准确,尤其是针对J-20A/S型号而言。F-22被严重过度吹捧了——它毕竟是几十年前的设计,航电系统早已过时,即便经过一些升级也无济于事。F-35在航电方面同样存在短板:雷达物理尺寸小得多,仍使用砷化镓技术;虽然F-35过去凭借360度EOTS(光电瞄准系统)占据优势,但如今这一优势也已被抵消。F-35真正剩下的优势,恐怕只有隐身性能和成本了。
@ProspectingMonkey But do they have UFOs like us my guess is no
但他们有没有像我们这样的UFO呢?我猜是没有的。
@arthurchen8162 In a real war battle space, no more dog fight, Now China has been entering a new phase for J-20, J-16, and GJ-11. What can America air force does?
在真实的战争战场中,早已不再依赖传统的近距离格斗。如今,中国已进入由J-20、J-16和GJ-11(攻击-11)组成的新作战阶段。那么,美国空军又能做些什么呢?
@vinvil25 RQ-170? It's been a thing since 2007 way before the GJ-11. China went as far as copying its look. You really think China is ahead of the US? The US just keeps its technology on the low away from the public. China makes videos for everything because they need to seem strong.
RQ-170?那玩意儿早在2007年就出现了,远早于GJ-11。中国甚至直接照搬了它的外形。你真觉得中国领先美国了吗? 美国只是习惯低调,把先进技术藏起来不给公众看;而中国则凡事都要拍视频宣传,因为他们需要营造一种强大的形象。
@arthurchen8162 @vinvil25 No, i don't think China is high-profile. China is always low profile. But since Dec, 2024, China changed their way to demo all their capability. It is because they want to avoid the war with the America. After all America sanction, the military is the last way to win China. Comparing to USA, American always high profile, But now F-47 and drone work with 5TH GEN fighter jet has not seen yet. I didn't say China will win America. I just said it is different now. I am sure no F-47 now.
@vinvil25 不,我不认为中国高调。中国一向都很低调。但自2024年12月起,中国改变了策略,开始全面展示自身实力。这是因为他们希望避免与美国发生战争——毕竟在美国的重重制裁下,军事力量已成为中国最后的制胜手段。相比之下,美国才一直是高调的一方。然而直到现在,所谓的F-47以及能与第五代战斗机协同作战的无人机都还未现身。我并没有说中国会击败美国,我只是说情况已经不同了。我可以肯定,目前根本不存在什么F-47。
@vinvil25 @arthurchen8162 I've spent my entire life around the military. I can promise you the public doesn't know anything.
@arthurchen8162 我这辈子一直都在军事圈子里,我可以向你保证,公众对真正的情况一无所知。