印度4万亿美元的GDP是个谎言？| 为什么我们的4万亿美元GDP实际上只有2.5万亿美元

@aparnarai3708
Government is trying their best to change that. But one thing I don't like is freebies. It's about time the money wasted on these handouts is spent on R&D and Defense. Also, HAL and DRDO need to be overhauled from ground up.

政府正在尽力改变这种状况，但我不喜欢的一点是各种“免费福利”，现在应该把浪费在这些补贴上的钱用于研发和国防。此外，印度斯坦航空公司和国防研究与发展组织也必须彻底重建。

@Annadatasukhibhavah
"I started my first job in the BPO sector back in 2011 with a salary of ₹11,000 per month. Today, in 2025, my friend's younger brother has joined the same industry in a similar entry-level position, and he's earning just ₹10,000. In the last 15 years, inflation has gone up by nearly 100%, but the basic salary for such jobs has either stagnated or even declined. If this is the reality, can we truly say our country is progressing — or are we silently slipping backwards?"

“我在2011年进入BPO行业，拿到的第一份月薪是11000卢比。如今是2025年，我朋友的弟弟进入同样的行业，从事类似的入门岗位，工资却只有10000卢比。过去15年，通货膨胀上涨了近100%，而这种工作的基础工资却原地踏步甚至有所下降。如果这就是现实，我们还能说这个国家正在进步吗？还是说我们正在悄无声息地倒退？”

@TheDihedral
Dude... the problem is you and your relative has not moved up the value chain. BPO is done and dusted. Upskill yourself.
This Podcaster is waaay out of line. There is significant innovation happening. South Korea does not have the same baggage as India, where political parties are continuously pulling down the one party that is actually trying to make a difference.

兄弟，问题在于你和你亲戚从来没有在价值链上往上走。BPO行业的时代早就过去了，你应该提升自己的技能。
这位播客主讲的完全偏离了重点。实际上，现在的确实有很多创新正在发生。韩国并没有印度这种沉重的历史包袱。在印度，政治党派总是在互相掣肘，把真正想带来改变的那一方往下拉。

@patrickj138
Its the bidding system bro. Cheapest bidder gets the project, and we got stuck in this dog-eat-dog system. Inflation is high and the currency is weak which mean, that 11k that you got in 2011 might be a 25k billing today, but we won't get a project if we quote that price. Believe me, most of the small to mid scale entrepreneurs are in huge debt or are earning lesser than their own managers. Its the big sharks who earn earn in crores, but they are earning for US based firms.

兄弟，这一切都是因为竞标制度。谁报价最低谁就能拿到项目，我们就这样被困在这种弱肉强食的体系里了。现在通货膨胀高企，货币贬值，意味着你2011年拿到的11000卢比如今可能相当于25000卢比的报价，但如果我们报这个价，就接不到项目。相信我，大多数中小型创业者都背着巨额债务，或者赚的钱还不如自己请的经理。真正赚钱的是那些大佬，他们靠为美国公司打工赚着上千万。

@Rohit63789
I joined HCL with a salary of 14000 in 2023 and my salary is now 15000 after increasing salary by 1000 my manager telling me now you became senior you have to take more responsibilities

我在2023年加入HCL时工资是14000卢比，现在涨了一千变成15000卢比，然后我的经理告诉我：“你现在是资深员工了，要承担更多责任。”

@RajVideocast
If we are doing the same thing and following a same template, nothing will change. The entire middle class is very happy to take debt/loan and pay emi's for - home, cars, two wheelers, gadgets etc. Financial literacy is a must. People should learn investing and grow money over long term through interest compounding over 10-15 years.
How do we create our own brands and Intellectual Property? All our IT professionals have become workers of American software/technology providers.
How do we increase agri income? We are not able to do any reforms in the agriculture sector? No one wants to change anything in this country but expect different results.
We won't change the education system, but we want growth for all.
We will worship reel heroes but we will not recognize real heroes.
For example, Leaders like Sridhar Vembu are building India's brand from rural areas like Tenkasi. He want to increase the per capita income of people in Tenkasi district.
Every entrepreneur and industrialist should adopt a district and create employment for people in those districts. Let's take 3 district in each state and create cluster of industries and ecosystem based on its strength - geo, demographics, raw materials etc.
India should explore key input materials available in our country for strategic advantage.

如果我们总是做同样的事、走同样的路子，那就什么都不会改变。整个中产阶级都乐意贷款、分期付款买房子、汽车、电动车、电子设备等等。金融素养是必需的，人们应该学会投资，通过10到15年的复利积累来增长财富。
我们怎样才能建立自己的品牌和知识产权？我们的IT人才全都变成了美国软件和科技企业的雇员。
我们如何提高农业收入？农业改革几乎毫无进展。没有人愿意做出改变，却又都想要不同的结果。
我们不愿改革教育体制，却又想要全民增长。
我们崇拜的是虚构出来的英雄，而不是现实中的英雄。
比如，Sridhar Vembu这样的领导者正在像Tenkasi这样的农村地区塑造印度的品牌，他希望提高Tenkasi地区的人民的人均收入。
每一个企业家和实业家都应该认领一个地区，在当地创造就业机会。我们可以在每个邦选择三个地区，根据地理条件、人口结构、原材料资源等优势，打造产业集群和生态系统。
印度还应该深入开发本国的关键基础资源以实现战略优势。

@LOGINOFsrinath
If you joined call centre in 2011, then itself it’s a bad choice and in 2025 after 2020, if anyone is joining a call centre means he is not qualified properly with his degree graduation and in the era of internet still depending on a BPO job is horrible because people are learning a lot of skills and getting recruited in different divorce fields and people are starting up with Variety of businesses and earning a lot. If you’re still depending on a job like BPO, then I’m sorry for you and your talent and your skill whatever it is. Please move on with the time if you’re still stuck in the dogma of degree, giving you a job, then I’m sorry.

如果你在2011年就选择了去呼叫中心工作，那本身就是一个糟糕的决定。而如果到了2025年，在2020之后还有人去做呼叫中心的工作，那说明他的大学学位根本没有给他带来真正的能力。在这个互联网时代，还依赖于BPO工作实在太可悲了，因为现在大家都在不断学习技能，进入各种新兴行业，甚至自己创业赚得很多。如果你还依赖这种工作，那我只能替你和你的才能感到遗憾。请跟上时代，如果你还活在“有学位就有工作”这种观念里，那真的很抱歉。

@manjupandian7816
IN TAMILNADU WE ARE PAYING RS-15K FOR HELPER JOBS FOR STARTING. BUT U R BROTHER IS STILL GETTING RS-11K FOR A MONTH IS NOT A GOVETMENT PROBLEM I THINK ITS YOUR PROBELM. WE CAN SEE THE GROWTH EVERY WHERE IN INDIA LIKE PRIVATES VEHICLES GROWTH AND FOOD CONSUMPTION AND ONLINE PURCHASES AND DIRECT PURCHAESES AND WE ARE THE LARGEST CONSUMER FOR FOREGIN COMPANY.

在泰米尔纳德邦，我们给帮工的起薪都是15000卢比。可你弟弟现在还拿11000卢比一个月，这问题不是出在政府，而是出在你们自己。你看看全国各地的增长情况，私人汽车的数量在涨，食品消费在涨，线上购物和线下消费都在涨，我们是外国公司的最大的消费市场。

@glenrajadam
India is the 6th highest taxed country in the world out of 91 countries. But the infrastructure of India is not the top 6th in the world.

在91个国家中，印度是税负第六高的国家，但印度的基础设施却远远排不上世界前六。

@shashanksinghbais6521
Do your parents pay tax
In India minimum 5% of population pay tax
So what do you expact

你父母交税了吗？
在印度，只有大约5%的人口缴纳所得税。那你还指望什么？

@symphysis6642
Bro you are absolutely right. Here are some of the issues -
Govt neither spend nor support any kind of innovation. They want their share first before you even start to grow.
Students nowadays don't want to study to the level where they actually can get a high salaried job and innovate. Maximum students ate trapped in instagram reels n youtube shorts.
Corruption, the biggest dent of all, never allow anyone to grow. You are opening a store, state govt Babu's share has to be kept aside first before you can even reinvest the money you earned.
Heavy taxation by the central followed by state govt. You can't even raise your standard of living with this much taxation. Plus you are being taxed on an already taxed products
Even the IITians are not innovating. They just see an opportunity to go out of country and live there for the rest of life. Like the govt forced the doctors to serve for rural areas, it should force IITians, MBAs n Scientists to serve for the nation first with their innovation before even thinking for going abroad.

兄弟，你说得完全对。问题有以下几点：
政府既不投入，也不支持任何创新。你刚想成长，他们就要先拿走一份。
现在的学生大多数没有学习到能够真正获得高薪并具备创新能力的水平，很多人都沉迷于Instagram的短视频和YouTube的短片。
最大的问题就是腐败，它压根不让人发展。你开一家店，首先就得预留出一部分收入给地方政府的官员，才能勉强继续经营和再投资。
中央和地方政府加起来的重税使你根本没法提高生活水平。更糟的是你买的产品本身就已经被征过税了，还要再缴一次税。
就连IIT的毕业生也不再搞创新了，他们只想着出国定居。就像政府强制医生去农村服务一样，我们也应该强制IIT毕业生、MBA、科学家们先为国家服务，用自己的创新做出贡献，然后再考虑出国。

@Xloachtop
fuck no, completely disagree with point 5. Idk about doctors but why should the government have any say in what private individuals do and where they work? Country should invest in engineers if they find them an asset to be kept in the country rather than leak out. Let them have the income, opportunities and standard of living they were expecting in another country here itself. If the government cannot do that, it doesn't deserve skilled labor. If you keep me in without my will, I'll do anything to get away, if I can't, I won't grow, because you don't give me that environment.

我完全不同意第五点。我不知道医生怎样，但政府凭什么干预一个自由个体要干什么、去哪工作？
如果一个国家觉得工程师是重要的资产，那它就应该在这些人身上投资，把他们留下来，而不是眼睁睁看他们流失。如果你能在国内提供他们想在国外得到的收入、机会和生活水准，那他们自然会留下。如果做不到，那你根本不配拥有这些人才。如果你强留我，我一定会想方设法逃离。如果逃不了，我也不会成长，因为你根本没有提供适合成长的环境。

@anandmaneesh1043
"When stupidity is considered patriotism, it is unsafe to be intelligent."
Let's hope people have the courage to hear the truth.

“当愚蠢被视为爱国时，聪明就变得危险。”
希望大家有勇气听听真话。

@AveenB
As a South African, I really appreciate the quality and depth of the show—it’s well-produced and full of valuable insights. That said, I think it’s important to point out a common flaw in comparisons, especially between countries like India and South Korea. Much like South Africa, India faces deeply rooted structural challenges that require context-specific, sustainable solutions.
In South Africa, we’re often criticized for policies perceived as anti-white, but the reality is that we’re trying—however imperfectly—to address the legacies of a profoundly unequal past. Borrowing from other countries can offer inspiration, but what we truly need is a complete reimagining of our systems to create a more equitable future.
The same applies to India. It shouldn’t model its development solely on the success of nations like South Korea, which operates under entirely different circumstances. South Korea doesn’t face the massive scale of poverty that India does. India needs to chart its own path—one rooted in its unique context and challenges—to build a future that’s truly inclusive and forward-looking.

作为一位南非人，我非常欣赏这个节目的质量和深度——制作精良，内容也非常有见地。不过，我认为有必要指出一个普遍的问题，尤其是在像印度和韩国这样的国家之间做比较时。就像南非一样，印度面临着深层次的结构性挑战，这些挑战需要结合各自的国情、制定可持续的解决方案。
在南非，我们经常因某些政策被批评为“反白人”，但现实是——即便做得并不完美——我们一直在努力解决过去严重不平等所留下的后果。从其他国家汲取灵感固然重要，但我们真正需要的是彻底重塑我们的制度，以实现一个更公平的未来。
印度也是如此。印度不应仅仅效仿像韩国这样成功的国家，因为韩国的背景与印度完全不同。韩国并没有像印度那样的大规模贫困问题。印度必须走出一条属于自己的道路——基于自己的国情和挑战，构建一个真正包容且有远见的未来。

@RoudrajitSarkar
With 144 Crore Population, India needs atleast 10 Trillion Dollar Nominal GDP for a Higher quality of life and Per Capita.
It will take atleast 11 more years.

以14.4亿人口来算，印度至少需要达到10万亿美元的名义GDP，才能实现较高的生活质量和人均收入水平。
这至少还需要11年时间。

@executioner2020
even that will not be enough unless the wealth inequality is fixed

即使达到那个目标，也远远不够，除非能够解决贫富差距问题。

@rishavsingh747
Looking at Corruption it might take 5-6 generations

考虑到腐败问题，可能还需要五到六代人的时间。

@shanesahilreddyudumula
11 years is a small number brother i think 30 years minimum and that's being optimistic

兄弟，11年只是一个小数字，我认为至少还要30年，而且这还是在比较乐观的情况下。

@RoudrajitSarkar
@executioner2020 It's Hard. Many Indians are still coming out or just came out of Poverty & Extreme Poverty. According to UN, From 2006-2023, 415 million indians came out Poverty. It's very hard to establish somewhat wealth equality within these people and those who are already in a good position in Wealth Pyramid.

确实很难。还有很多印度人正在摆脱贫困，或者刚刚摆脱极端贫困。根据联合国的数据，从2006年至2023年，有4.15亿印度人脱离了贫困。在这些刚刚脱贫的人与本就处于财富金字塔上层的人之间建立某种程度的财富平等是非常困难的。

@vinayak6685
High time to realise GDP of country is NOT the right measure to uate country's situation

现在是时候认识到一个国家的GDP并不是评估其真实国情的正确指标了。

@amitbhattacharjyya2088
It's a right measure. But India started this too late , it will take time to increase per capita. Par capita is a derivatives of total GDP. India needs to be a 20 trillions economy so that our per capita can reach 16000 dollar

GDP确实是一个正确的衡量指标。但印度起步太晚了，要提高人均收入还需要时间。人均GDP是总GDP的一个衍生值。印度需要成为一个20万亿美元的经济体，才能使人均GDP达到16000美元。

@nike9971
That is where China won. They did nt just depend on cheap labour alone. They innovated, reverse engineered, improved, and created their own products to be their own master.

中国正是在这里赢了。他们并不仅仅依赖廉价劳动力，而是进行了创新、逆向工程、改进，并创造出了自己的产品，成为了自己的主人。

@aritrapatra8933
In India also we have cutting edge tech companies but not a single indian vc funds them, they rely on foreign funds.

在印度也有尖端科技公司，但却没有一个印度本土的风险投资愿意支持它们，它们全都依赖外国资金。

@aritrabain37
First of all this needs money , for that the government needs tax revenue even to promote the R&D .
That can be only done when gdp will be more .
2nd China is not perfect These kinds of videos are also make on the Chinese economy but the reality doesn't change it isn't .
And I am sure we can be like China

首先，这些都需要资金，而政府即使是要推动研发，也需要有税收收入。
而这只有在GDP增长之后才能做到。
第二，中国也并不完美，这类视频在讲中国经济时也一样存在，但现实并不会因为这些而改变。
我相信我们也可以做到像中国那样。

@Lockdown9697TRF
In that meantime we mocked for their replication of products. In fact rn we can't even replicate the products to the standards what they've done all these years

在那段时间里我们嘲笑他们抄袭别人的产品，可事实上我们现在连复制他们这些年造出来的产品都达不到他们的标准。

@karthikmukesh8742
@aritrapatra8933 because our R&D is merely 0.6% from GDP. It clearly shows that India & Indians give a damn about Innovations. That's why talents are flying to foreign countries.

因为我们的研发投入仅占GDP的0.6%，这清楚地表明印度和印度人根本不重视创新，这也是为什么人才不断流向外国的原因。

@GoodDay-p7p
An Indian economic expert said India's GDP is overstated by 40%. That is to say the actual GDP of India is $2.4 trillion not 4 trillion.

一位印度经济学家表示印度的GDP被夸大了40%。也就是说，印度的实际GDP只有2.4万亿美元，而不是4万亿美元。

@surajkraghavan2190
Truth is always bitter ! While i am happy we are 4th biggest economy,what has been said in this video cannot be wiped off !
No proper infra all tier 1 cities are highly populated , polluted and fragile.
under developed tier -2 & tier 3 cities
No breakthrough or slow investment in value added high profit segments like
semiconductor
defence (arms and weapons) export
modern agriculture
Cyber security & AI
Many such segments to be listed.
Govt should stop the outflow of our young engineers, scientists to west and provide them lucrative benefits and life to innovate here ..
We definitely can pull this off!!

真相总是令人苦涩！虽然我很高兴我们成为世界第四大经济体，但视频中所说的内容却无法抹去！
1）一线城市缺乏完善的基础设施，人口拥挤，污染严重，系统脆弱；
2）二三线城市的发展滞后；
3）在高附加值、高利润的领域缺乏突破，投资缓慢，例如：
（1）半导体，
（2）国防（武器与军备）出口，
（3）现代农业，
（4）网络安全与人工智能。
还有许多类似领域。
政府应该阻止我们的年轻工程师、科学家流向西方国家，并在国内为他们提供优厚待遇和体面的生活，让他们愿意留下来进行创新……
我们绝对能够做到！

@sanjubat
kaisi baat kr rha hai bhai muze japan me job krni hai government stop to nhi laga sakti india just doesn't offer anything in return for the tax they are demanding

你在说什么啊兄弟？我想去日本工作，政府又不能拦着我。印度对我们缴的税根本没有做出任何回报。

@saibhaveshreddy5923
alright...you say we should stop our people from going abroad but do you get the standard of living?...my neighbour who has a job in apple...lives in a 3cr flat in bangalore and yet he throws food packets on the road like an uneducated...the fact is most of the people even in cities like Mumbai,Bangalore,Delhi etc..are just literate...they don't have civic sense and are not educated...and even if we want to stay in india...the who would wanna work in TCS or infosys wth 4-5 lpa salary and living in tier 1 cities...the govt jobs pay so less...have a slow growth rate..

好吧……你说我们应该阻止人才出国，可你见过真正的生活水平吗？我的邻居在苹果公司上班，住在班加罗尔价值三千万卢比的公寓里，但他却像个没有受过教育的人一样把食物包装袋扔在路上……事实是即使是在孟买、班加罗尔、德里这样的城市，大多数人也只是有文化程度，却缺乏公民意识，根本谈不上真正受过教育。
而即使我们想留在印度，谁会愿意在TCS或者Infosys干着年薪四到五十万卢比的工作，同时还要在一线城市艰难生存？政府工作的工资那么低，升职又慢……