QA：中国阅兵如此协调有序，为什么11名中国人踢不好足球，进不了世界杯决赛圈？

Jesuan Wu
Because this is how most Chinese teenagers live.
I remember vividly in last year of high school, that the headmaster anxiously called out on the parents in a school-family meeting, that "There are still students who sleep more than 5 hours a day!" And that was in the early 2000s. I hear it’s even tougher now.
Some terrible crime, for a child to waste time sleeping more than 5 hours a day.
In a country where children rarely play sports in a meaningful way until adulthood, it’s hard to become good at football.
Then there’s corruption.
In a country that loves football and disrespect sports at the same time, the few under educated players who make it to the top make sure to hoard all the money they can while they can. This would include bribes to play on the team, match-fixing, etc. This creates a wall that prevents healthy competition to improve on the skills of the sport.

因为大多数中国青少年就是这样生活的。



我清楚地记得在高中最后一年，校长在一次学校家庭会议上焦急地对家长们说：“竟然还有学生每天睡超过5个小时！”
那是21世纪初的事了。我听说现在情况更糟了。
孩子每天浪费时间睡超过5个小时，简直是罪孽深重。
在一个孩子们直到成年才真正参与体育运动的国家，想要踢好足球实属不易。
此外，腐败问题也层出不穷。
在一个热爱足球却又不尊重体育的国家，少数受教育程度低、最终跻身顶尖行列的球员，会尽可能地敛财。他们用贿赂的方式加入球队，操纵比赛等等。这筑起了一道壁垒，阻碍了良性竞争，从而无法提高这项运动的水平。

H'ng Eng Ngee
But why football specifically? Just to name a few, the Chinese are top at ping pong and badminton.

但为什么特别选择足球呢？举几个例子，中国人在乒乓球和羽毛球项目上都是顶尖的。

Heinz Breustedt
Exactly, just a stupid question.

确实，这只是一个愚蠢的问题。

Jesuan Wu
It becomes exponentially more difficult when you go from training someone to be good at a solo sport, to a bunch of people being good at a team sport.

从训练某人擅长单人运动，转变为训练一群人擅长团队运动，难度就会成倍增加。

Zoran Borut Vresnik
It's cheap and not so competitive.
Ping pong you need one table and 20 talented kids to single out and train them to be champions.
For football you need huge base of players to compete. Also huge infrastructure. Teams, fans, etc. And on the end you have to fight with almost all world. Ping pong? Who else care about ping pong? Do you know who is world champion? Not talking about 12th in the world….

它便宜，竞争也不太激烈。
乒乓球只需要一张球台和20个有天赋的孩子，然后挑选他们，培养他们成为冠军。
足球需要庞大的球员基础才能参与竞争。此外，还需要庞大的基础设施、球队、球迷等等。最后，你还要与几乎所有国家竞争。乒乓球？还有谁在乎乒乓球？你知道谁是世界冠军吗？更不用说世界第12名了……

Gareth Wells
They will eventually get better, just as the Japanese and Koreans have. Size, speed and muscle twitch matters in football. Dexterity and flexibility are traits well suited for table tennis, badminton and diving…which are generally played as individual sports at the top levels. China does not have a deep or long tradition with football.
Kids like these spend more time playing football than in school

他们最终会变得更好，就像日本人和韩国人一样。体型、速度和肌肉收缩对足球很重要。灵巧和柔韧性非常适合乒乓球、羽毛球和跳水……这些项目通常都是顶级水平的个人项目。中国在足球方面并没有深厚或悠久的传统。
像这样的孩子踢足球的时间比在学校的时间还多


Johannes Sulistyo
Team sports.
All sports that you mention are individual sports, like athletic scores and gymnastics that Chinese excell at.
The question alludes to Chinese collectivism, coordination, and socialism which does not translate well to team sports.
Picture it, China is the largest football fan in the world, it is also the biggest basket ball market. Yet they suck at both.

团队运动。
你提到的所有运动都是个人项目，比如中国擅长的田径和体操。
这个问题暗示了中国的集体主义、协作主义和社会主义，而这些在团队运动中并不适用。
想象一下，中国是世界上最大的足球迷市场，也是最大的篮球市场。然而，他们在这两方面都很差。

Peter Chan
It's just anti-China hawks just hunt for things to attack China. They exhausted making fun of China in everything. So now they seek things that China isn't good at, such as football. The picking is getting very slim for them.

反华鹰派只是在寻找攻击中国的东西。他们已经厌倦了在各个方面嘲讽中国。所以，他们现在开始寻找中国不擅长的东西，比如足球。对他们来说，机会越来越渺茫了。

Quanicus
Counterpoint: it's really just the men's soccer team. The volleyball team doesn't suck, the doubles pingpong/tennis/badminton team doesn't suck, and heck, the women's soccer team doesn't suck, seems like it's just the men's soccer and not anything institutional.

反驳：只是男足而已。排球队还不错，乒乓球/网球/羽毛球双打也不错，哎呀，女足也不差，看来只是男足的问题，跟其他任何机构无关。

Chilly Padi
China men football is weak as the players are not motivated and not well known unlike table tennis or badminton.

中国男足实力较弱，因为与乒乓球或羽毛球不同，球员缺乏动力，而且知名度不高。

Andrei Moutchkine
It is unfair to China. Why only 11 team members? :)

这对中国队不公平。为什么只有11名队员？:)

Toby Zhang
They learned everything bad and almost nothing good when they first introduced the FC system.

当他们第一次引入 FC 系统时，他们学到的都是坏东西，几乎没有学到什么好东西。

Tim Palmerston
Time and time again South America demonstrates that good football is achieved with a huge support network for sports-oriented youth.
Alas, xiao Wang has three mountains of homework to finish for tomorrow.

南美洲一次又一次地证明，优秀的足球成绩离不开对热爱运动的青少年，以及支持他们的庞大网络。
唉，小王明天有三座大山般的作业要完成。

Epstein Lance
I am not sure what question this answer is trying to answer. China is the second most successful sports nation in the Olympics and that too when tbey don't play all the Olympic sports. Football success is fine but it doesn't define how good or bad China is at sports. And 40gold medals in tbe last Olympics attest to that fact. Football isn't the only sport.

我不确定这个答案想回答什么问题。中国是奥运会上第二成功的体育国家，而且即使他们没有参加所有奥运项目，也是如此。足球​​的成功固然不错，但这并不能决定中国体育的好坏。上届奥运会40枚金牌就证明了这一点。足球并非唯一的运动。

Michael Ciao
You use the name of Tojo an executed war criminal with blood of tens of millions of innocent people, are you a psychopath? Do you actually take pride in that war criminal name? Or do you think it is funny?
Countries with good soccer football teams are generally not very successful countries with failed economy.

提问者，你用东条英机这个用数千万无辜民众的鲜血清洗的战犯的名字来称呼自己，你是神经病吗？你真的以这个战犯的名字为荣吗？​还是觉得它很好笑？
拥有优秀足球队的国家通常都不太成功，经济也很失败。

Nganga Nhama
Im surprised that you have singled out football against all other sports codes Chines excell in, you only need to watch the Olympics and see how well disciplined and coordinated Chines players are.

我很惊讶，你把足球从中国擅长的所有其他运动项目中单独挑出来提问，你只需要看奥运会就能知道中国运动员的纪律性和协调性有多么好。

Herbert
Like everything in China, it's about numbers.
The military is coordinated and large because of the large pool of candidates. You need to apply and get accepted and then you have a chance. A lot don't make the grade.
For football, it will take a few more years of sextion and training.
They did the same for baseball, a sport my dad loved. They hired a baseball coach from the US and trained their players. In a few short years they had a team in the Olympics. The team even beat China Taipei which has a long history of baseball. (A Taiwanese in the audience had a heart attack and died on the spot!)

就像中国的一切一样，一切都关乎人数。
军队之所以协调一致，规模庞大，是因为候选人众多。你需要申请，被录取，然后才有机会。很多人最终没能入选。
对足球来说，还需要几年的选拔和训练。
棒球——我爸爸热爱的一项运动——也经历了同样的过程。他们从美国聘请了一位棒球教练，训练队员。短短几年内，他们就拥有了一支可以参加奥运会的队伍。这支队伍甚至击败了棒球历史悠久、实力雄厚的中华台北队。（现场一位台湾（地区）观众心脏病发作，当场死亡！）

Ivo Knittel
They are not exactly comfortable with the qualities of true great football teams: Being unpredictable, inspire are huge fanbase …

他们并不完全认同真正伟大的足球队的特质：难以预测结果、鼓舞人心、拥有庞大的粉丝群……

Feng Lu
Because the C Football Association is a corrupt institution, the only players who join the C national team are those who bribe the association, not the best players.
The C people are abandoning the C Football Association.
If you're interested in watching the provincial leagues, you'll find that they're far more entertaining than the C Super League.

因为C足协是一个腐败的机构，只有那些贿赂足协的人才能加入C国家队，而不是那些最优秀的球员。
C人民正在抛弃C足协。
如果你有兴趣观看省级联赛，你会发现它们比中超联赛有趣得多。

Tony Histbook
The parade soldiers are trained to march in unison and their training is devoted to achieving perfect unison without any need to think, react to the situation or as what many would call a team player as no active and direct collaboration, communication and support for and by others is required in a parade.
On the other hand, football players must be able to play as a team and therefore active and often direct communications, collaboration, support is needed to succeed or fail. Training football players with the same intensity, repetitions and conditions, such as straight pins used to prick the necks as a means to maintain a required head posture, as used to teach parade solider to march in unison is far, far different from knowing how to play football, developing required skills and working in conjunction with and in coordination with other team players is not the same.

阅兵士兵接受的是齐步行进的训练，他们的训练致力于达到完美的步调一致，无需思考、无需对情况做出反应，也无需像许多人所说的那样具备团队精神，因为阅兵式不需要其他人主动直接的合作、沟通和支持。
另一方面，足球运动员必须能够团队合作，因此无论成功还是失败，都需要主动且通常直接的沟通、协作和支持。训练足球运动员时，使用与训练阅兵士兵齐步行进时相同的强度、重复次数和条件（例如用大头针扎脖子以保持必要的头部姿势），与学习如何踢足球、发展所需技能以及与其他队员协同工作截然不同。
Adrian Qiu(秋霞)

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It’s very simple: sports events are not the lifeline of the national economy, so regulation in our country is not very strict. This has led to corruption in this field, which for a long time prevented truly capable players from getting onto the field.
Football, for a long period worldwide, has been rife with such corruption, including match-fixing and ties to gambling. That’s why this sector is not easy to control.
This is just like the widespread presence of elements of Capitalism in China’s tertiary industry, it’s nothing unusual.
You bring up this kind of example to try to make us feel uneasy, but it doesn’t work, because we understand the reality of our society. We know our military parades are excellent and ensure our safety. This belongs to the second level of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. Football, as entertainment, sits at the very top of the pyramid: self-actualization. Governments that focus all their energy on this top level are usually those that fail at the bottom levels. Besides, no matter what, those countries are still far stronger than a Japan where, in Ōkubo, a bag of rice could once buy a girl’s body, failing even at the first level of needs.
China is a developing country of the Third World. Our capacity is limited, our resources per capita are extremely scarce, so we must focus our efforts on the essentials. And the most essential task is guaranteeing ordinary people’s basic livelihood, not putting 11 people on a field to, like in ancient Rome, provide entertainment for everyone to watch, drink beer, gamble, and fight each others for poor reasons.
As our living conditions continue to improve, this issue will eventually be resolved. But we are not in a hurry about it.

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原因很简单：体育赛事并非国民经济命脉，因此我国的监管并不严格。这导致了该领域的腐败现象，长期以来，真正有能力的运动员无法进入赛场。
长期以来，全球范围内的足球运动都充斥着腐败，包括假球和赌博。这就是为什么这个行业难以监管的原因。
这就像中国第三产业中普遍存在着资本主义因素一样，并不罕见。
你举这样的例子试图让我们感到不安，但这行不通，因为我们了解我们社会的现实。我们知道我们的阅兵很精彩，能够保障我们的安全。这属于马斯洛需求层次理论的第二层。足球作为一种娱乐，位于金字塔的顶端：自我实现。那些把所有精力都集中在这一顶层的政府，往往底层都做不到。而且，无论如何，这些国家仍然比曾经在大久保用一袋米就能买到一个女孩身体的日本强大得多，他们甚至对第一层次的需求都无法实现。
中国是第三世界的发展中国家。我们的能力有限，人均资源极其匮乏，所以我们必须把精力集中在最基本的事情上。而最根本的任务是保障普通民众的基本生活，而不是像古罗马那样，把11个人放在一个球场上，供大家观看、喝酒、赌博、互相争斗，提供一些不体面的娱乐活动。
随着我们生活水平的不断提高，这个问题最终会得到解决。但我们并不急于解决这个问题。