为什么关税不会带回制造业工作岗位？

@ucruci
Arresting then roughing up 400+ highly trained engineers from a foreign county who were building factories in US probably isn't the way to bring manufacturing back to USA.
 
逮捕并粗暴对待400多名来自外国的高技能工程师，他们正在美国建厂，显然不是让制造业回归美国的正确方式。
 
@wthomas5697
Electing an idiot to the highest office in the land is always a very bad sign. Especially when you did it once already.
 
选举一个傻瓜到国家最高职位，永远是一个很糟糕的信号。尤其是在你已经这么做过一次的情况下。
 
@handlaidtracksand3dprinted922
Trump has done the amazing - the decoupling of the entire world from the USA.
 
特朗普做到了不可思议的事情——让整个世界与美国脱钩。
 
@seddik6522
The forest was shrinking, but the trees continued to vote for the axe. For the axe was clever and convinced the trees that, because its handle was made of wood, it was one of them.
 
森林在缩小，但树木继续投票给斧头。因为斧头很聪明，且说服了树木，认为它是它们中的一员，因为它的柄是木做的。
 
@stevehunter291
Unfortunately as we are seeing with Canada, Brazil and India they are moving to isolate the US economically. Once trump is gone it will take decades to undo the harm.
 
不幸的是，正如我们从加拿大、巴西和印度所看到的那样，他们正试图将美国经济孤立起来。一旦特朗普下台，恢复所造成的伤害将需要几十年。
 
@todaywefly4370
It’s getting tiresome to listen to endless experts explain what is going wrong with Trumps administration.  It is patently obvious to just about everyone else in the world that America is sliding into a pit that will take decades to rise out of.  No one trusts America anymore, no one respects them much anymore and most importantly no one is investing long term anymore.  How is he getting away with it!
 
听无数专家解释特朗普政府出了什么问题，真让人感到疲惫。对几乎全世界的人来说，美国正在滑入一个需要几十年才能爬出来的深坑。现在没有人再信任美国，几乎没有人再尊重他们，最重要的是没有人再做长期投资了。他是怎么逃脱的！
 
@mildlyAnnoyed123
Trump’s policies are disastrous, but the fact that he was elected twice and still has the backing of over 40% of Americans is an indictment of the nation itself. America feels broken—and dangerously so.
 
特朗普的政策灾难性，但他曾经两次当选，且仍然获得超过40%的美国人支持，这本身就是对国家的指控。美国感觉已经崩溃——而且是危险的崩溃。
 
@michaeldowson6988
This started with Reagan. The Reaganites realized they lost the domestic propaganda war that was essential to winning in Vietnam, because of educated Americans' protests. So they started the long process of denying proper public education, and increasing the public propaganda campaign in its' place.
 
这一切始于里根。里根派意识到，他们在越南战争中败北的原因之一是美国受过教育的民众抗议使得国内的宣传战争失败。因此他们开始了长期的过程，否定适当的公共教育，并用增加的公共宣传战替代。
 
@zhli4238
Factory capacities are not there anymore.  Factories, equipments, skilled industrial labor, supply chains ... those things have been diminishing for decades.  Price alone won't play magic to bring them back.
 
工厂的生产能力已经不存在了。工厂、设备、熟练的工业劳动力、供应链……这些东西已经消失了几十年。仅凭价格并不能使它们重新回来。
 
@raym6747
Why nobody stands up against this adminstration violating what they build up in almost 1 century as the professor mentioned..?
 
为什么没有人站出来反对这个政府违反了他们在近一个世纪中建立的东西，正如教授所说？
 
@nancy4366
Tariffs won't bring back manufacturing because manufacturing requires many many different components to any one product and those components come from all over the world and tariffs are shutting down the suppliers for all the components that we would need to manufacture these products. Also Americans aren't going to work for his cheap as overseas so it would cost companies too much money to manufacture these items and products right here in the usa. Also Americans don't want manufacturer type jobs without unx and without Healthcare and without job security. That's why
 
关税不会带回制造业，因为制造业需要来自世界各地的许多不同组件，而关税正在关闭所有这些供应商，导致我们无法获得制造这些产品所需的组件。此外，美国人不会以低于海外工资的价格工作，因此美国公司在本土制造这些产品的成本会过高。而且美国人不愿意从事没有工会、没有医保和没有工作保障的制造类工作。这就是原因。
 
@ScottyTBoner
I lived in China for over a decade. And I lived in Canton where most of the manufacturing takes place. I hated living there because the air pollution made me sick. I rarely saw a blue sky. Driving at night, it looks like you’re driving through fog. And there was always this sort of rotten egg smell in the air. If we want to bring that to the US for the sake of owning the rest of the world, I’m not for it. And I don’t think Americans will do that kind of work as it is.
 
我在中国住了十多年，住在广东，那是大部分制造业的所在地。我讨厌住在那里，因为空气污染让我生病。我几乎从未看到过蓝天。晚上开车，感觉像是开车穿越雾霾。而且空气中总是有一股像腐烂鸡蛋的臭味。如果我们为了控制世界其他地方而将这种情况带到美国，我是反对的。而且我不认为美国人会做这种工作。
 
@ramospk
The thing about raising tariffs to reduce our budget deficit is that Trump blew up the deficit by granting huge tax breaks to the rich. Now, everybody that buys a T-shirt is helping Trump pay off that portion of the deficit.   Where is that fair?
 
提高关税以减少预算赤字的问题在于，特朗普通过大幅减税给富人而炸毁了赤字。现在，买一件T恤的人实际上是在帮助特朗普偿还那部分赤字。这怎么公平？
 
@geoffhead111
americans play a very stupid game with the 'socialist' label. socialism informs many functions of our society. you like a good wage? youre a socialist. you like workplace safety? youre a socialist. you think unxs protect us from rapacious bosses? youre a socialist. etc. socialists have been informing economic, legal and social philosophies since 1840
 
美国人玩弄‘社会主义’标签的游戏真的很愚蠢。社会主义影响了我们社会的许多功能。你喜欢好工资吗？你是社会主义者。你喜欢工作场所的安全吗？你是社会主义者。你认为工会保护我们免受贪婪老板的侵害吗？你是社会主义者。等等。社会主义自1840年以来一直在塑造经济、法律和社会哲学。
 
@rickciaburri2598
Tariffs are simply increasing taxes on regular consumers, and protecting the fortunes of billionaires by reducing their tax obligations . The end user pays for everything.
 
关税实际上是在增加普通消费者的税负，并通过减少亿万富翁的税收义务来保护他们的财富。最终用户承担一切费用。
 
@ApLemon
We have not even concluded his first year and this is already a mess! I can't imagine what other horrible things can happen within the rest of his term.
 
我们连第一年都还没结束，这已经是一团糟！我真不敢想象剩下的时间里会发生什么可怕的事情。
 
@aperson5062
As someone with a degree in economics, Trump policy is terrible.  It is lowering the standard of living by raising the cost of goods.  At the same time, it is ruining our export market for the products we do export as they are boycotted in retaliation.  The lost of trust in the USA as a dependable partner is causing Canada, our closest friend to buy new fighter jets from Europe because they can't trust America not to hold parts hostage.  This is not a short term dispute, this is long term reputational damage as well as economic damage.
 
作为一名经济学学位持有者，特朗普的政策很糟糕。它通过提高商品成本来降低生活水平。与此同时，它也在破坏我们出口的市场，因为我们的产品在报复中被抵制。美国作为一个可靠合作伙伴的信任丧失，导致我们的亲密盟友加拿大不得不从欧洲购买新的战斗机，因为他们不再相信美国不会挟持零部件。这不仅是一个短期的争议，而是长期的声誉损害以及经济损失。
 
@geohhoeg8630
63% of working PHDs in medicine and engineering are immigrants. Not complimentary. That makes it so that we don’t tax enough to pay for a good educational system and companies still get cheap high skill labor.
 
63%的医学和工程领域的在职博士都是移民。这并不是个赞美。这使得我们无法征收足够的税款来支持一个良好的教育系统，同时公司依旧能够获得廉价的高技能劳动力。
 
@gautamganguli1221
Cheap and abundant labor,mostly imported(think slavery in US) has always been a cornerstone of advanced civilizations.Till a year back US had cheap gadgets from China,cheap farm workers from Mexico and cheap IT workers from India. Trump saw the long term danger in this for US- but tried to force his model(seriously flawed) on the world. He- and his supporters-  are realizing the serious limits to US power- and US consumers will pay.
 
廉价且丰富的劳动力，主要是进口的（想想美国的奴隶制），一直是先进文明的基石。直到去年，美国还从中国获得廉价的小商品，从墨西哥获得廉价的农场工人，从印度获得廉价的IT工人。特朗普看到了这一点对美国的长期危险——但他试图把自己的模式强加给世界（这个模式严重有缺陷）。他和他的支持者现在意识到美国力量的严重局限——而且美国消费者将为此买单。
 
@LautrectheGuilty
I mean in the US the law counts for nothing now so, you'd have to be nuts to be looking to America as a reliable partner again. We might work with them for now because of momentum but are absolutely seeking viable alternatives.
 
我的意思是，现在在美国，法律已经不算什么了，所以如果你还把美国当作可靠的伙伴，那你得有点疯狂。我们现在可能因为惯性和动力与他们合作，但绝对在寻求可行的替代方案。
 
@sbjchef
American warlord capitalism wouldn't work without a poor underclass working to survive, read your own history, indentured servitude, slavery, share cropping, convict labour and poor immigrants, so who is next? because without the gross input of this labour the underlying engine of growth will collapse, innovators and entrepreneurs require that labour pool to service the people who run their enterprises and create the innovations.
 
美国的军阀资本主义若没有一个贫穷的下层阶级为生存而工作，是行不通的，读一下你们自己的历史，契约劳役、奴隶制、分成农耕、罪犯劳动和贫困移民，那下一个会是谁？因为没有这些廉价劳动力的巨大投入，增长的根本引擎就会崩溃，创新者和企业家需要这部分劳动力池来服务于那些经营企业和创造创新的人。
 
@xsliquidity
The purpose of tarrifs is to make foreign goods more expensive in order to discourage buying them.  It encourages buying domestic goods, which require domestic jobs to produce.  It increases economic growth in the domestic economy.
 
关税的目的是让外国商品变得更贵，以此来鼓励消费者购买本国产品，这需要国内的工作岗位来生产。这会促进国内经济的增长。
 
@disco7128
Nothing pisses me off more than listening to Donald Trump brag about how much money he's robbed from us and our families. News flash: that money don't just come out of thin air. You are bleeding the people of your nation, dry and for what? What is he going to do with the tariff money? Cut more social programs? On our way to laissez faire capitalism where all of the social contracts with the government and the people are broken and everything becomes violent. The more they make, the less we make, this is just not sustainable. It's bound to go up in a blaze of Glory at some point and there's a whole lot of us and a very small amount of them.
 
没有什么比听唐纳德·特朗普炫耀他从我们和我们的家庭那里抢了多少钱更让我生气了。提醒一下：这些钱可不是凭空冒出来的。你在榨取你自己国家人民的财富，拿这些钱做什么？他打算用关税收入做什么？削减更多的社会福利项目吗？我们正走向放任自由的资本主义，所有政府和人民之间的社会契约都被打破，一切都变得暴力。越是赚得多，我们赚得就越少，这样是不可持续的。迟早会以一场壮烈的火焰爆发，到时候我们这一大群人，而他们那小部分人。
 
@rgrifferon
Americans can’t compete with the labor cost of other countries, it’s an impossibility. Those tariffs are taxes on the things we purchase, stop being stupid.
 
美国人根本无法与其他国家的劳动力成本竞争，这是不可能的。那些关税是我们购买的东西上的税，别再傻了。
 
@DerekDAngel
American manufacturing will NEVER compete against foreign manufacturing when our competition has less regulation, taxation, oversight, and restriction to raw materials.
We’re reducing domestic manufacturing by using tariffs & sanctions to isolate ourselves from international free trade & the global market. If you start a business in the U.S, you’re closed in on by parasitic “vulture” policies designed to restrict your ability to produce product at an efficient and profitable rate.
 
美国制造业永远无法与外国制造业竞争，因为我们的竞争对手在监管、税收、监督和原材料的获取方面较少限制。
我们通过关税和制裁来孤立自己，减少国内制造业，远离国际自由贸易和全球市场。如果你在美国创业，你会被“秃鹫”政策围困，这些政策旨在限制你以高效和有利可图的方式生产产品的能力。
 
@ericwhite5333
One obvious point I never hear regarding the claim foreign companies will drop prices to cover the tariffs.  For this to be plausible, one has to accept as a given that major  corporate US purchasing departments have been ineffective at negotiating the lowest possible prices for wholesale imported goods.
Let that sink in; Walmart, GM, Home Depot etc can’t effectively negotiate the lowest prices.   Sure.
 
关于外国公司会降价以弥补关税的说法，有一个明显的点我从未听到过。为了使这种说法成立，必须接受一个前提，那就是美国主要企业采购部门在谈判进口商品批发价格时一直无效。
想想看；沃尔玛、通用汽车、家得宝等公司无法有效地谈判出最低价格。真是不可思议。
 
@stefanr5430
Trust in the US is being broken down in months. It'll take years to restore that.
And even now many americans think they're in the best country that ever was or will be...
 
对美国的信任正在几个月内被破坏。恢复它将需要数年。
即便如此，许多美国人仍然认为他们生活在世界上最好的国家。
 
@Anonymous-ic3db
Just say the real reason. Wall Street sold the American Dream to China, got used to the shareholder-value subscxtion industries that followed, and have absolutely NO desire to bring back the American middle class. These people sold us out, broke the law, and they got away with it for nearly 50 years.
 
就说实话吧。华尔街将美国梦卖给了中国，适应了随之而来的股东价值订阅产业，完全没有兴趣重振美国中产阶级。这些人出卖了我们，违法了，并且几乎50年都没有受到惩罚。
 
@960john
That's an insult to Denmark. And Krugman knows very well tariffs aren't the same as VAT tax. Tariffs also work as a subsidy for local companies relative to foreign exporters, distorting the value chain. VAT tax is neutral in that sense, it only discourages consumption.
 
这简直是对丹麦的侮辱。克鲁格曼非常清楚，关税和增值税是不同的。关税相当于对本地公司相对于外国出口商的补贴，扭曲了价值链。而增值税在这方面是中立的，它只是抑制消费。
 
@FeebleAntelope
Aside from the ineffectiveness, these tariffs keep getting ruled illegal.
So many things the administration keeps doing are being ruled illegal. But no one is holding them accountable.
 
除了无效性，这些关税还屡次被裁定为非法。
政府所做的许多事情都被判定为非法。但没有人追究他们的责任。
 
@leemcclelland2618
Even after Trump is gone, foreign nations and companies will be wary of investing in America because they never know what creature we will elect next. We are now untrustworthy and they have real lives to protect.
 
即使特朗普离开了，外国国家和公司也会对投资美国保持谨慎，因为他们永远不知道下一个我们会选出什么怪物。我们现在不可信，他们有自己的实际利益需要保护。
 
@quadcom
The statement that international markets would lose trust in the US if the next president reversed course is laughable. The global markets have already lost trust because trump broke the trust that was already there. Reversing course would help correct the damage done, as the US would admit to the world that it made a massive mistake in international relations. (ps. Yes, I purposefully did not capitalize trump because I don't feel he deserves it.)
 
如果下一任总统改变方向，国际市场失去对美国的信任的说法是可笑的。全球市场已经失去了信任，因为特朗普破坏了已经存在的信任。改变方向有助于修正所造成的损害，因为美国将向世界承认它在国际关系中犯了一个巨大的错误。（顺便说一下，我故意没有把特朗普的名字大写，因为我认为他不配。）
 
@science_and_facts_please
Tariffs are a tax on American businesses that import goods from foreign nations, collected by the U.S. government, with the revenue going to the U.S. Treasury. The cost of tariffs are passed on to the American consumer in the form of inflation. Over the past 50 years, U.S. corporations (including Trump corporate entities) have outsourced production to countries with lower labor costs. As a result, the U.S. now has limited manufacturing ability and increased dependence on foreign supply chains.
 
关税是对从外国进口商品的美国企业征收的税，由美国政府收取，收入进入美国财政部。关税的成本最终由美国消费者承担，以通货膨胀的形式体现出来。在过去的50年里，美国公司（包括特朗普的企业）将生产外包到劳动力成本较低的国家。因此，美国现在制造能力有限，且越来越依赖外国供应链。
 
@Dave-zl2ky
Bringing back manufacturing is a slow cooperative endeavor that requires a win-win for both parties. Biden had some successes in that area. Trump will be a big loser in that area by the end of four years. Trump tariffs for my company mean customers don't buy. That is 15-18% of revenue. My prices have not changed. The hostile rhetoric, especially toward Canada, has changed.
 
重振制造业是一个缓慢的合作过程，需要双方都能受益。拜登在这方面取得了一些成功。到四年结束时，特朗普在这一领域将是一个大输家。特朗普的关税对我的公司意味着客户不购买。这相当于15-18%的收入。我的价格没有变化。尤其是对加拿大的敌对言辞也发生了变化。
 
@robertboudreau5956
Tarifs are taxes.  If prices go up consumers will turn to cheaper alternatives or simply pull out from buying.  Higher prices, higher inflation, possibly with less jobs opportunities.  If organization fell the pinch they will probably not only alt recruiting but will start reducing their labor.  These tarifs are not the solutions to bring jobs back in America.
 
关税就是税收。如果价格上涨，消费者会转向更便宜的替代品，或者干脆停止购买。更高的价格、更高的通货膨胀，可能还会带来就业机会减少。如果公司感受到压力，它们可能不仅会改变招聘策略，还会开始减少劳动力。这些关税不是带回美国就业的解决方案。
 
@1lwtcasl
The US government since January 2025 is unreliable, undependable and untrustworthy. This reflects trump's reputation as a NYC businessman. Like the 6 businesses of his that he bankrupted and the failed university and foundation that were forced to close due to unethical business practices, trump is now bankrupting the US. He is doing what he knows: break things and create chaos. The GOP and his supporters fully embrace this in every way they can. Now we all live with the consequences.
 
自2025年1月以来，美国政府不可靠、不值得信任。这反映了特朗普作为纽约商人的声誉。就像他破产的6家公司，以及因不道德商业行为而被迫关闭的失败大学和基金会，特朗普现在正在让美国破产。他做的就是他最擅长的事：打破一切并制造混乱。共和党和他的支持者在各个方面都完全接受这一点。现在我们都得承担后果。
 
@jamespark3510
National security, job, health, debt, food secuirty, energy crisis, international relations....there isnt a single thing trump has no screwed up in last 4-5 months but people still support him???
 
国家安全、就业、健康、债务、食品安全、能源危机、国际关系……特朗普在过去的4到5个月里几乎没有什么事没搞砸，但人们还是支持他？
 
@dougscott188
Trump and his tariffs are a cancer on America. We live in an interconnected world and his ignorance and insistence on pursuing this policy is destructive to the country. But all that aside, the founders did not give the president that authority and for good reason. They did not want that power in the hands of one man opening him up to corruption and cronyism. They saw Trump before he existed.
 
特朗普和他的关税就像美国的癌症。我们生活在一个互联的世界，他的无知和坚持执行这种政策对国家是具有破坏性的。但抛开这些不谈，创始人们没有赋予总统这样的权力，这也是有充分理由的。他们不希望把这样的权力交给一个人，导致腐败和裙带关系。他们在特朗普出现之前就已经看到了这一点。
 
@Mtnmanmike62
I've been in manufacturing for most of my life. We have lost most of our trained manufacturing talent over the last twenty years. Specifically, tool and die makers. These people are the backbone of manufacturing. They also take years to become proficient. We cannot get them back very quickly. If we want to bring back manufacturing in the USA, we need an aggressive push for trade schools, where people can learn the prerequisite skills to make accurate goods. In short, we kinda have to go through the process of building our country up, in very short order.
Also, there's the investment in new equipment that matches the times. That costs billions of dollars. Who would want to pony up that kind of money with an untrustworthy president. Nobody knows what he will do next except for him. Investing in a new automated plant at this time could prove to be very risky. I don't see our government creating any incentive programs, so you can be assured that it will not get done. So the end result will be a collapse of our economy, all because a bunch of suits who don't know a thing about manufacturing are in control of it. Strap on your helmets!
 
我一生大部分时间都在制造业工作。过去二十年里，我们失去了大部分受过训练的制造人才，尤其是模具和工具制造工人。这些人是制造业的支柱。他们也需要多年的时间才能达到熟练水平。我们无法很快找回这些人才。如果我们想要在美国重振制造业，就需要大力推动职业学校，让人们能够学到制造精确产品所需的基础技能。简而言之，我们必须尽快走完重建国家的过程。此外，还需要投资新的设备，适应时代的变化。这需要数十亿美元。谁会在有一个不可靠的总统的情况下投资这么多钱呢？除了他自己，没有人知道他接下来会做什么。在这个时候投资一个新的自动化工厂可能非常风险。我们政府也没有创造任何激励计划，你可以放心，这一切都不会发生。所以最终结果将是我们的经济崩溃，原因是一些根本不懂制造业的高管掌握了控制权。准备好戴上头盔吧！
 
@faisalmirza9601
Denmark has free education and healthcare and amazing state pensions for the elderly.Don’t degrade Denmark by comparing it to the USA.
 
丹麦提供免费教育和医疗保健，并为老年人提供极好的国家养老金。不要把丹麦与美国进行比较，贬低丹麦。
 
@guru47pi
It is infuriating how often it needs to be repeated that raising the cost of things by adding a direct tax increases the cost of things. It's mind boggling to me that anyone would believe that a plan based on tariffs would reduce the cost of living.
 
令人愤怒的是，增加直接税的方式提高物价这一点需要反复强调。让我难以理解的是，居然有人认为基于关税的计划会降低生活成本。
 
@kezhouwang1884
Once you broken someone's heart, it is not easy to win it back. It is hard to restore a broken mirror.
 
一旦伤了别人的心，要重新赢回是很难的。修复一面破镜也是不容易的。
 
@jssidhoo
The most important thing that he said was about trust . The world does not TRUST the USA .
 
他说的最重要的事情是关于信任的。世界不再信任美国。
 
@jackieYang-u6q
It's not the first time they've done this — again trying to shift the crisis onto others. The U.S. Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930 not only failed to save the American economy, but also triggered a global tariff war, severely damaged world trade, deepened the Great Depression, and laid the groundwork for the turmoil preceding World War II.
 
这已经不是第一次他们这么做了——又一次试图将危机转嫁给别人。美国的《斯穆特-霍利关税法》不仅未能挽救美国经济，还引发了一场全球关税战争，严重损害了世界贸易，加深了大萧条，为第二次世界大战前的动荡打下了基础。