韩国年轻人如何看待韩国贫富差距 | 街头采访

 
 
@marinoint
In Taiwan it's ever worse; condo can easily cost 30X the annual salary!
(Most Taiwanese' salaries are much lower than S. Korea's, while the properties aren't noticeably cheaper.)
 
台湾（地区）的情况还要糟糕得多！公寓的均价动不动就是年薪的三十倍！
（要知道绝大多数台湾（地区）的薪资水平远低于韩国，而房价却并没有明显便宜多少。）
 
@Alex_Aramayo
This is virtually universal in almost all the rich countries
 
这种现象几乎在所有发达国家都普遍存在。
 
@TheDressking
인터뷰학생이 어린학생이라 집값에 관심이없어서 잘모르는거같은데 서울평균 집값은10억이 넘습니다
서울 주요 상급지 아파트는 30평이 현재 40억원이 넘습니다
신축은 50~60억원대 이구요
평균집값과 차이가 많이나는이유는 서울에는 오래된집들이 많이있기때문입니다
투기성목적때문에 서울시에서 재개발 재건축 규제가 시행되고있어 더디게 개발되고있어요. 외국인입장에선 빠르게 주변환경이 바뀌고있다고 생각하겠지만요.
서울에는 30평기준 10억이하의 아파트도 가끔 존재하는데 4~50년된 오래된 집들이기때문에 젊은사람들은 10억원이하 신축아파트들이 존재하는 경기도권으로 몰리고있습니다 물론 경기도도 상급지 아파트들은 평균20억원대이고 서울로 출퇴근이 힘들기때문에 저출산의 원인이되고있구요 월급400만원으로 편히 살수있다는 20대~30대초까지 혼자살때고 결혼하면 양쪽이 각자 그렇게 벌어야지만 자식 한명정도 낳고 어느정도 아끼면서 생활해야 평균적인 삶을 살수있다고 생각되요
 
接受采访的学生年纪尚轻，可能对房价不太关心所以不太了解，但首尔的平均房价已经超过10亿韩元了。
目前首尔主要高级地段的公寓，以30坪为单位计算，现在都要超过40亿韩元。
新建公寓更是达到50至60亿韩元级别。
与平均房价差距如此之大，是因为首尔存在大量老旧的住宅。
由于投机性的目的，首尔市政府正在实施再开发重建管制措施，导致开发进度缓慢。不过在外国人看来，可能会觉得周边环境变化得很快。
首尔偶尔也有30坪标准低于10亿韩元的公寓，但都是四五十年房龄的老旧住宅，所以年轻人都涌向京畿道区域那边低于10亿韩元的新建的公寓小区。当然京畿道的高级公寓平均也要20亿韩元左右，而且往返首尔通勤非常辛苦，这已经成了低生育率的原因之一。月薪400万韩元看似可以过得挺舒服，但那仅限于20多岁到30岁出头的单身时期。一旦结婚成家，夫妻双方都必须保持这样的收入水平才能生育一个孩子，平时还得精打细算过日子，这样才能维持普通水准的生活。
 
@letsgobrandon1719
@TheDressking I look on Naver and see 30 pyung apartments in the Youndeungpo area for under 1-1.5 billion won. It's even cheaper in other parts of Seoul. Where are you getting 4-6 billion won? That's almost $3-$5 million USD. That's Gangnam prices. Seoul is not all Gangnam. It's a big city.
 
我在Naver上看到永登浦区域30坪的公寓都在10至15亿韩元以下，首尔其他区域甚至更便宜。您说的40到60亿韩元是从哪里来的数据？这都快折合300到500万美元了，那是江南区的价格水平。首尔并不全是江南区，这可是个大都市啊。
 
@SanaNote
日本で言えば、都心のアパートが何億だと報道されるが、千葉や埼玉であればそれほど高くないという話ですね。一人暮らしの頃は都心周辺に住み、結婚して子供ができると郊外に移る傾向があります。仮にお金があっても、都心は自然も少なく、子育てしにくいです。
 
这就好比日本的情况，虽然媒体报道市中心公寓动不动就要好几亿日元，但千叶和埼玉这些地方其实并没有那么昂贵。单身时期的人们倾向于住在市中心周边，结婚生子后往往就会搬到郊区。即便经济条件允许，市中心也缺乏自然环境，实在不适合抚养孩子。
 
@yamuiemata
South Korea's issues are different than other countries with wealth cap inequality because of how competitive everyone is and "keeping up with the Kardashians" so to speak mentality.
 
韩国的贫富差距问题与其他国家的性质不同，因为这里每个人都非常争强好胜，普遍存在着那种"攀比炫富"的心态。
 
@adamsaciid4919
with out competion s. korea would be the same of n. korea , so every success has a consequence
 
如果没有竞争机制，韩国恐怕会变得和朝鲜一个样。所以说啊，任何成功都是要付出相应代价的。
 
@juanjorge751
I mean is the same on Mainland China as far as i know, i guess North Est Asia is just a ranked server.
 
据我所知中国大陆情况也差不多，看来东北亚地区简直就是个天梯排位赛服务器啊。
 
@yamuiemata
@juanjorge751 yeah but mainland C has a autocratic leadership that will cut off the ones who show off their wealth....unlike S.Korea where the population wants to follow the wealthy people trend in fashion
 
不过C实行威权统治，他们会打压那些炫富的人......而韩国的情况恰恰相反，民众反而热衷于模仿富豪们的时尚潮流。
 
@zevil89
Whats sad is the number of elderly in Seoul living in poverty. Its not really a sight you see in Japan, Taiwan or the Chinese diaspora in South East Asia. I was wondering why the government just doesnt given them a livable pension since Korea is wealthy
 
最令人心酸的是首尔那么多老年人生活在贫困之中。这种景象在日本、台湾（地区）或东南亚华人社区几乎看不到。我实在想不通，韩国明明这么富裕，政府为什么不能给老人们提供足以维持基本生活的养老金呢？
 
@uludak8468
bc poverty is kept out of sight in tourist spots in general
 
因为贫困现象通常都被隐藏在游客看不见的地方。
 
@ikash-mi9ub
one of the biggest culture shocks living in korea is seeing elderly people, hunched over, doing manual labor to afford to live. like picking up garbage in the street, selling vegetables at markets, being janitors in office buildings etc.
 
在韩国生活最让人震撼的文化冲击之一就是亲眼目睹那些白发苍苍的老年人为了生计不得不佝偻着背做体力活。比如在街上捡垃圾，在市场卖菜，在办公楼里当清洁工等等。
 
@noeminoemi1350
elderlies like to work to keep themselves productive and useful.
 
老年人之所以继续工作，是因为他们想要保持自己的生产力和价值感。
 
@jiminswriter4209
The elderly do get a pension. You are fooling yourself if you think there is very little elderly poverty in those other countries.
 
老年人确实能领到养老金。但要是你觉得其他国家的老年贫困问题不严重，那根本就是在自欺欺人。
 
@zevil89
I literally live in South East Asia and we do not send 70 year olds to pick cardboard boxes. At the very least we give extended older relatives a place to stay and food. A floor to sleep on and 3 simple meals a day isnt expensive. Thats why I was shocked to see the elderly carrying heavy carts in Seoul.
 
我本人就生活在东南亚，我们绝对不会让七十多岁的老人去捡纸箱。至少我们会给年长的亲戚提供住所和食物——让他们有地板可以睡觉，一天供应三顿简餐，这些根本花不了多少钱。所以当我看到首尔的老年人推着沉重的手推车时，真的感到无比震惊。
 
@hkkim8718
Gov'ts (national, municipal) and organizations provide shelters and warm food; however, there are also many who prefers freedom over shelters with rules.
 
政府（包括中央和地方政府）以及各种机构其实提供了收容所和热食，但确实有很多人宁愿选择自由，也不愿接受带有各种规矩的收容所。
 
@curethe9776
As koreans, we need to abandon the desire to elevate our status above others. most Koreans derive happiness from having things that others do not, such as prestigious universities, jobs, income, appearance etc ..and they take pleasure in flaunting these achievements to provoke envy in others. however, only a few people can truly achieve this. We need to learn to find happiness in what we have now. The government should have instilled the principles of jante’s law during the era when they exercised strict control over the citizens. Lol
 
作为韩国人，我们确实需要摒弃那种总想凌驾于他人之上的心态。现在大多数同胞的幸福感都来自于拥有别人没有的东西——像是名牌大学的学历、体面的工作、高昂的收入或者出众的外表等等……而且他们还特别热衷于炫耀这些成就，就为了惹来别人羡慕的眼光。但说实话，真正能实现这种生活的人终究只是极少数。我们更应该学会在当下已经拥有的事物中找到满足感。其实早在政府还能对民众实行严格管制的年代，他们就应该灌输扬特定律的基本原则了，真是让人哭笑不得啊。
 
@workinperkins
Considering the land mass and resources, it makes sense that it would be centralized. When the resources accumulate to the point where they naturally overflow, the growth into other areas will happen naturally. The best thing that Korea can do is work toward self-sufficiency to lessen imports.
 
考虑到国土面积和资源储备的实际情况，采用集中化发展模式确实是合理之举。当资源积累到自然溢出的程度时，向其他领域的扩张便会水到渠成。韩国当下最应该做的就是全力提升自给自足的能力，逐步减少对进口的依赖程度。
 
@alfonsowillock5801
One of the big issues is seeing the elderly working when they should be retired and getting a pension or social security. That is sad to see.
 
最让人心酸的问题之一就是看到本该安享晚年、领取养老金或社会保障金的老人家，却不得不继续工作。这般景象实在令人唏嘘不已。
 
@theojeong521
I live in Australia, and the social welfare system here is much greater. I feel for my relatives back home where they earn peanuts, and theyre approaching the age where they are forced to retire (early 60s). The pensions are definitely not enough for these forced retirees
 
我现在旅居澳大利亚，这里的社会福利体系要完善得多。每每想起老家那些领着微薄薪水的亲戚们，心里就特别不是滋味——他们眼看就要到强制退休的年纪（六十出头），可那点养老金根本不够这些被迫退休的人维持生活。
 
@catmanfpv9213
Koreans, try to be more grateful and happy with what you have now. Live is short, chill. Don't be too kiasu.
 
韩国的朋友们，试着多感恩当下拥有的幸福吧。人生苦短，不妨放松心态，何必事事都争强好胜呢？
 
@Enchanteralle
Wow, traveling 2 hours one way to high school?! Kudos to that guy. Issue with wealth gap seems to happen all around the world, but I'm feeling grateful that there's more opportunities in the U.S. to make a decent living.
 
哇，每天单程花两个小时通勤去上高中？这位小哥真了不起！贫富差距的问题似乎遍布全球，但值得庆幸的是在美国谋生的机会确实要多一些。
 
@Magerquark
In my opinion wealth gap only really matters, when low income workers or people on job search currently not working, are not able to participate in regular life, which means being able to afford food, maintain a cheap car, occasionally go out to eat / go to the cinema / parks.
It gets very problematic when low income can not afford healthcare
 
在我看来，贫富差距真正构成社会问题是当低收入群体或暂时失业者连基本的生活都难以维持的时候——这意味着他们是否吃得饱饭、养得起代步车、偶尔能外出就餐或看看电影逛公园。
而当低收入群体连医疗保障都负担不起时，问题就变得异常严峻了。
 
@jyd1384
Well...most EU nations and even the strongest one, the US have had lots of poor people located in lower social classes and homeless guys here and there. Of course, South Korea also has this unsolved matter, which means most rich nations couldn't find the best answer to solve this complicated thing whatsoever. Why couldn't the superpower America build useful alternatives or laws in the US Congress? Most democratic states based on capitalism couldn't find the right answer to solve this ultimate question. People can't make their proper answers for this thing. But they know the fact that all people must have fair and reliable chances to create better living conditions irrespective of their age, sex, and resident location in South Korea. Basically, many Korean international companies have focused on foreign markets such as the US and EU nations so far. Supposing they can go back to South Korea sooner or later, younger people in South Korea may find their chances.
 
说起来呢，绝大多数欧盟国家乃至最强的美国都存在着大量处于社会底层的贫困人群，街头巷尾随处可见无家可归者。当然，韩国同样面临这个未解的难题，这意味着大多数富裕国家至今都未能找到完美方案来化解如此复杂的困局。为何超级大国美国不能在国会制定出有效的替代方案或法律呢？大多数建立在资本主义基础上的民主国家都没能找出解决这个终极命题的正确答案。人们无法就此提出恰当的解决方案，但他们都明白一个事实：所有民众都应获得公平可靠的机会来改善生活条件，不论年龄性别，也不论在韩国境内居住何处。从根本上说，许多韩国跨国企业至今仍专注于欧美等海外市场。倘若这些企业迟早能够回流韩国，那么韩国的年轻一代或许就能找到更多发展机遇。
 
@arc2348
한국은 지니계수도 평범하고 중위 가처분 소득은 높은편이라 다른 국가들에 비해 빈부격차가 낮은편이다
 
韩国的基尼系数处于普通水平，而中位数可支配收入却相对较高，所以跟其他国家比起来，贫富差距算是比较小的。
 
@busterboyd4125
Here's my advice to young Koreans. Speak with your wallet. If you feel that conglomerates are at the root of this wealth gap then stop feeding those companies. Stop buying Korean cars, stop buying Korean washing machines, stop shopping at malls run by Jaebols. They can't exist in Korea without consumers. Also, stop valuing jobs at these conglomerates. Don't apply there, don't marry people who work there, and don't talk positive about those jobs. Everyone in Korea after graduating college wants a job at Hyundai, Samsung, LG, etc. while at the same time complaining about the wealth gap. Without a change in mindset nothing will change. Change doesn't happen easily. It's often very painful.
 
我想给韩国的年轻人提一个建议：用你们的钱包来投票。如果觉得财阀是贫富差距的根源，那就别再给这些企业输血了。别买韩国车，别买韩国洗衣机，别去财阀经营的商场购物。没有消费者，它们在韩国根本活不下去。还有，别再追捧这些财阀的工作岗位。别去应聘，别和在那里工作的人结婚，更别说这些工作的好话。现在韩国所有的大学生毕业后都挤破头想进现代、三星、LG这些公司，同时却又抱怨贫富差距。不改变这种心态，就什么都改变不了。变革从来不是易事，往往伴随着阵痛。
 
@MyWorldIsYourOyster
BTW, there's zero guarantee that you'll end up on a fortunate path despite going to hagwons/private education. Society is far too competitive and the educational system is corrupt. Students nowadays only want to answer the questions correctly rather than learn the material.
Personal effort was far different from the Silent generation vs Boomer generation... Now, it's so difficult to catch up with wealth margins. It's a huge factor why the birth rate decline and population decline is inevitable with developed countries.
 
话说回来，即便参加了补习班或者私人教育，也根本不能保证你最终就能走上一条康庄大道。现如今社会竞争实在太激烈，教育体系又腐败不堪。现在的学生们只想着把题目答对，根本不在乎真正掌握知识。
个人努力所能带来的回报，比起沉默世代和婴儿潮世代那会儿已经天差地别......现如今想要追赶财富差距简直难如登天。发达国家生育率持续走低和人口衰退已成定局，这绝对是个重要因素。