出生率下降将如何影响全球经济？

@DonTNguyen
They keep telling everyone to have kids but everything in our modern world right now works against having a family.
 
他们一直告诉大家要生孩子，但我们现在的现代世界一切都在阻碍家庭的建立。
 
@dominicsummerton4114
How a failing economy is affecting birth rates, would be a more accurate title.
 
“失败的经济如何影响出生率”这个标题会更准确。
 
@wattbenj
The only time governments and the media ever seem to care is when it affects the economy.
 
政府和媒体似乎唯一关心的就是当这个问题影响到经济时。
 
@skycloud4802
I refuse to produce any wage slaves for the wealthy elites.
 
我拒绝为富裕精英们生育任何工资奴隶。
 
@AdesteFidelis
I can barely afford my own needs, if I want to raise a family I'll play The Sims.
 
我几乎无法负担自己的生活需求，如果想要养一个家庭，我可以去玩《模拟人生》。
 
@gamma4053
Complain about low birth rates but also don’t help improve the standard of living for regular working people. What a joke.
 
抱怨生育率低，但又不改善普通工薪阶层的生活水平。真是笑话。
 
@BrockGreybeard
Maybe we should start worrying less with "the economy" and more with people's quality of life...
 
也许我们应该少担心“经济”，多关注人们的生活质量...
 
@ahmednibra89
a direct result of the insane wealth inequality - the world has never had more abundance yet the fertility rate has never been lower
 
这直接是疯狂财富不平等的结果——世界从未如此富足，但生育率却从未如此低。
 
@ks33-1
It's clearly because we young people can't afford kids anymore. The prices of housing all across the world have gone up while there has been nothing done to support job growth. Just endless wars and nonsense politics of bickering with each other. People can't afford to feed themselves, how can they afford kids? A co-worker of mine leaves her eight year old alone at home and constantly tracks his location, and keeps checking the camera at work because she can't afford to put her son in daycare. The cost to put him in daycare over the summer? $800 a month! A month. The future looks grim
 
显然是因为我们年轻人再也负担不起孩子了。全球的房价都在上涨，但没有任何措施支持工作增长。只有无休止的战争和相互争吵的政治。人们连自己都养不起，怎么能养得起孩子？我的一个同事把八岁的孩子独自留在家里，不停追踪他的位置，工作时一直查看摄像头，因为她负担不起送孩子上托儿所。让他去托儿所的夏季费用？每个月800美元！一个月。未来看起来很暗淡。
 
@dawidrejczak3208
My boss earns many thousands of pounds a day, and he pays me the national minimum wage... Social inequality, that's the main cause. Companies that turn over millions should be banned from paying the minimum wage.
 
我的老板每天赚好几千英镑，而他只给我支付最低工资……社会不平等，这是主要原因。年营业额上百万的公司不该只支付最低工资。
 
@peacetaro8007
Having a baby is a luxury in developed countries. The cost prohibits young couple struggling with rent and other living costs. People gave up on owning a house. Now giving up on having babies.
 
在发达国家，生孩子已经是一种奢侈。高昂的成本让年轻夫妇在租房和其他生活费用之间捉襟见肘。人们放弃了拥有房子，现在也放弃了生孩子。
 
@satderry8149
35 yo, single, homeowning, working class English male here. The reason I chose to not procreate is because this world is turmoil, not climate change. The government does not represent the working man, let alone the youth
 
35岁，单身，有房，是工薪阶层的英国男性。我选择不生孩子的原因是因为这个世界充满动荡，不是气候变化。政府不代表工人，更别提年轻人了。
 
@flashsentry1791
My father who was a carpenter had four kids, a 3 bed 2 bath house before he was 30 and He never worked overtime.
I work 60 hours a week as a  license HVAC tech, live in a single room apartment paying over 2000 a month,  and I'm mid 30's. And the government can't figure out why all 4 of us don't have children.
 
我的父亲是个木匠，30岁之前有四个孩子，住着一栋三室两卫的房子，而且他从不加班。
我作为一名持证的暖通技术员，每周工作60小时，住在一间单人公寓里，每月租金超过2000，我已经三十多岁了。政府还搞不明白，为什么我们四个人都没有孩子。
 
@lucyhoneyisabel8531
If you want to fix the birth rate then make the world an easier place to be a parent and raise a family? like duh????
 
如果你想解决生育率问题，那就让世界成为一个更容易做父母、养育家庭的地方？这不是显而易见的吗？？？
 
@TotalScrubbery
Oh no, no the billionaires money. We dont need an ever increasing population
 
哦不，不是亿万富翁的钱。我们不需要一个日益增长的人口。
 
@lisalu3994
Rich need to share their wealth first. No one wants to bring kids into this broken world, speaking as a mother, this world is terrifying.
 
富人首先需要分享他们的财富。没有人想在这个破碎的世界里生孩子，作为母亲说，我觉得这个世界很可怕。
 
@GildedCube0
Reasons i'm not having kids: 1. I don't own my own home, 2. I don't have a stable job, 3. I don't have a strong social support system, 4. I am not sure I want to subject a child to this life. 5. I am tired. 6. my wife doesnt want one aswell. 7. im 43 years old
 
我不想要孩子的原因：1. 我没有自己的房子，2. 我没有稳定的工作，3. 我没有强大的社会支持系统，4. 我不确定是否愿意让孩子经历这样的生活，5. 我很累，6. 我的妻子也不想要，7. 我已经43岁了。
 
@mtpender69
Instead of asking "How will falling birth rates affect the global economy?", you should be asking "How does the global economy cause falling birth rates?".
 
与其问“出生率下降将如何影响全球经济？”，你应该问“全球经济如何导致出生率下降？”
 
@lunasmokezim1718
Globally, the world has an overpopulation problem. With climate change, upcoming water and food shortages, and the economic problems that AI will introduce. What's the problem here? This seems like the kind of auto correction that the planet needs. Less people, less stuff, less damage. What's the point in having children you can't educate, feed, house, and employ? I know how it sounds, but can someone honestly tell me how any of this bad? All i hear is GDP, not enough workers. You have pushed endless growth to its inevitable tipping point. Surprise, it's tipping over.
 
全球范围内，世界面临过度人口问题。随着气候变化、即将到来的水和食物短缺，以及AI带来的经济问题。问题出在哪里？这看起来像是地球需要的自动修正。少一些人，少一些东西，少一些破坏。生孩子有什么意义，如果你不能提供教育、食物、住所和工作？我知道这听起来很残酷，但有人能诚实地告诉我这有什么不好吗？我只听到的是GDP，不足够的劳动力。你们已经把无尽增长推向了不可避免的临界点。惊讶吗？它已经倾斜了。
 
@PomuLeafEveryday
People talking about how expensive it is to have children, but ignoring the rate of people even coupling up. People just aren't getting together as much anymore, relationships are either very short term or not even happening at all. People are either too busy working, we have higher rates of people picking up gig work outside of their day job just to get by. Social media and dating apps have ruined interpersonal relationships. People hang out in person much less. But heck, comfortable public meeting locations are disappearing, young people hate the club or the pub. Or even having reasons or time to meet new people is disappearing. We have a mental health crisis too. We used to find meaning in work, but these days the social contract has been violated by the elite. Wages don't grow, employers demand loyalty but don't show loyalty themselves. We used to get by without both partners working full time. There's so many problems. I think the biggest problem is the lack of small tight-knit community that brings people together and support each other. We need a huge social restructuring.
 
人们在谈论生孩子的费用，却忽视了人们配对的速度。现在人们不再像以前那样组成家庭了，关系要么是非常短期的，要么根本没有发生。人们要么太忙于工作，要么为了生计兼职做更多的零工。社交媒体和约会应用摧毁了人际关系。人们见面的机会变得越来越少。但是，舒适的公共聚会场所正在消失，年轻人讨厌俱乐部和酒吧，甚至没有理由或时间去结识新的人。我们还有一场心理健康危机。我们曾经在工作中找到意义，但如今社会契约已经被精英阶层侵犯。工资没有增长，雇主要求忠诚，但自己却不表现出忠诚。我们曾经能够不依赖双方都全职工作就生活。问题太多了。我认为最大的问题是缺乏一个小而紧密的社区，能把人们聚集在一起并相互支持。我们需要一次巨大的社会重建。
 
@AngelaSellek
My daughter and myself live in a bedsit as it's all we can afford. If I could provide a better home for us I most certainly would.Why are people surprised that we're having less children! For God's sake look around!
 
我和我的女儿住在一间床位房，因为这是我们唯一能负担得起的。如果我能为我们提供更好的家，我肯定会这么做。为什么人们会对我们少生孩子感到惊讶！天啊，看看四周！
 
@JJs_playground
Also let's remember, what jobs will these new children have?
New graduates are having a hard time to find a job and they have the highest unemployment rates.
 
另外，我们也要记住，这些新生的孩子将会做什么工作？
新毕业生很难找到工作，而且他们的失业率是最高的。
 
@drift-l2o
Who cares? Worry about the children who have already been brought into this world and don't get enough love and material security.
 
谁在乎？应该担心那些已经来到这个世界、却没有得到足够爱与物质保障的孩子们。
 
@kashif7811
less than 500 million global population would be optimum.
 
全球人口少于5亿才是最理想的。
 
@adamrubinson6875
People not having kids because of financial costs in the year 2025. It's stuff like this that makes me ashamed to be human and not want to not partake in modern society.
 
2025年，因为经济成本而不生孩子的人。正是这些事情让我为自己是人类而感到羞愧，不想参与现代社会。
 
@uttpiew
Having children is not rewarding for current modern society. Unless you are extremely passionate about taking care children (some people are), you are most likely to postpone it as much as possible. Let us imagine and prepare for a future with far less humans.
 
在当今社会，生孩子对大多数人来说并不值得。如果你没有极大的热情去照顾孩子（有些人确实有），你很可能会尽量推迟这件事。让我们想象并为一个人口大幅减少的未来做好准备。
 
@carterwgtx
The answer is to tax the rich…this is our population rebalancing when conditions are no longer conducive to continued growth.
 
解决方法是征税富人……这就是我们人口重建的方式，当现有条件不再有利于持续增长时。
 
@Nyxionis
It’s not that people not having children is harming the economy, but rather the issue of economic distribution models that leads people to choose not to have children.
 
问题不在于人们不生孩子会伤害经济，而是经济分配模式的问题，导致人们选择不生孩子。
 
@munirsafdar8943
Also youve turned everything into a rat race, the maze is too complex now and large, the mice will starve before they reach the end.. brutal depiction of the situation but it's a reality.
 
你们也把一切变成了竞赛，迷宫现在太复杂且庞大，老鼠们在到达终点之前就会饿死……这虽然是对现状的残酷描述，但它却是现实。
 
@DanielEdwards-
And there’s the truth of the matter… how will falling fertility rates affect the economy. Rich people worrying about where their next buck will come from while the rest of us can’t have families cos we’re broke.
 
这才是问题的真相……出生率下降将如何影响经济。富人担心下一笔钱从哪里来，而我们其他人却因为穷得养不起家庭。
 
@brandonjohnson5205
Wouldnt a decline in birth rate and population be better for the environment? Why is this being looked at as an issue?
 
出生率和人口下降不是对环境更好的吗？为什么这被看作是个问题？
 
@hermitwei5074
Humanity is insatiable, our earth with limited resources already have too much population! People compete for limited jobs, country fight for limited land.
 
人类是贪得无厌的，我们的地球资源有限，已经有太多的人口了！人们在为有限的工作岗位争夺，国家在为有限的土地争斗。
 
@1995
The farmer is unaware that the constant abuse of his farm animals render them insterile. Reduce cost of living and working hours. Any animal will stop breeding if environment is hostile towards them.
 
农民不知道，他对农场动物的不断虐待让它们不再能繁殖。如果生活成本和工作时间减少，任何动物都会停止繁殖，如果环境对它们来说是敌对
 
@MrSatadal
First create an ecosystem for new life instead of talking about making babies
 
首先要为新生命创造一个生态系统，而不是只谈论生孩子。
 
@Akixkisu
It is almost like wealth distribution is the root cause of all of these issues. So we should probably cut tax rates for corporations that are 84% owned by the wealthiest 3%.
几乎可以说，财富分配是所有这些问题的根本原因。所以我们可能应该降低那些由最富有的3%拥有84%的公司税率。
 
@mrfalleo
Sort out, financial inequality and the housing crisis then maybe I would consider a child. But until then I have to work extra hours to maintain my existence.
 
先解决经济不平等和住房危机，然后我可能会考虑要孩子。但在此之前，我不得不加班工作来维持生计。
 
annaclarke7643
At the end of the day, it is the woman that is left holding the baby. A broken relationship or marriage ensures that the woman has little to no pension and struggling to work, rear their children and have enough energy to do anything else. I also think that these ‘specialist’ spokespeople don’t really know what they are talking about.
 
说到底，最终是女性要背负孩子。破裂的关系或婚姻使得女性几乎没有养老金，还要挣扎着工作、抚养孩子，还要有足够的精力做其他事。我也认为这些“专家”发言人并不真正理解他们在说什么。
 
@JamesBlume-u4i
Who in the heck wants children And who's getting married!
 
谁他妈想要孩子？谁还在结婚？
 
@mateaukalua4426
With less children and more adults we have less kids being born into poverty. I am all for that. I remember being hungry at night as a kid. Wouldn't wish that on anyone.
 
随着孩子变少、成年人变多，我们有更多的孩子不会出生在贫困中。我支持这一点。我记得小时候晚上饿肚子的样子。希望这种情况不会再发生在任何人身上。
 
@Gumbo_Calm
Size of housing in the UK is a less obvious influence here. New builds in the UK are tiny. The smallest in Europe and around half the sq ft of new builds in the US. Then we have no green spaces, childcare, public services, etc. Being built in the new build communities. Houses need space for 3 child families that just isn't being factored in. Profit profit profit. It's simply gone so far, so much so that it's going to snuff out society.
 
英国的住房大小是这里不太明显的影响因素。英国的新建房屋非常小。是欧洲最小的，只有美国新建房屋的一半面积。而且新建社区没有绿地、儿童看护、公共服务等设施。房子需要为三口之家提供空间，但这些都没有被考虑进去。只顾利润，利润，利润。情况已经糟糕到极点，甚至会摧毁整个社会。
 
Riderdownn
We went from 1 salary supporting a household with an entire family, new car, nice house, to 2 salary households (from working 40h a week to 80h cumulatively) not being able to afford a house or even think about starting a family. Amazing work boomers. Really well done. Thank you
 
我们从一个薪水支撑整个家庭、买新车、住好房子，变成了两个薪水的家庭（每周工作40小时变成了80小时），却买不起房子，甚至连考虑要孩子的机会都没有。真是太棒了，感谢你们，婴儿潮一代。做得真好，谢谢。
 
@johnpaulgonzaga5997
Cramped space, higher cost, higher work hours, bad diet-all contributing factors to  this
拥挤的空间、更高的成本、更长的工时、不良的饮食——这些都是原因。
 
@bravosierra2447
Today I went to a school info session. The first power point started with a video of robots dancing.
Instead of smiles and awe, there was silence, the general feeling amongst the parents was dismay.
I’m thinking, the next gen will have to compete against these robots for jobs.
 
今天我参加了一个学校信息会。第一张幻灯片开始是一个机器人跳舞的视频。
本应是笑声和惊叹，结果却是沉默，家长们普遍感到失望。
我在想，下一代将不得不和这些机器人竞争工作。
 
@EnzoSanchez-q4s
One in five people say they don’t want children because of climate change, but that’s not the real issue. The truth is many can’t afford to have kids because the cost of living is crushing families. Our world is very different from what it used to be. Yes, having children will increase expenses, but costs have already been rising for years—supposedly due to “supply chain issues,” which many see as a convenient excuse.
Meanwhile, companies are making record profits, not because business is booming, but by hiking prices and blaming “inflation.” Workers, on the other hand, earn less in real terms each year due to that same inflation, meaning their labour is worth less and less. At this point, for many, work feels uncomfortably close to modern-day slavery.
 
五分之一的人表示他们不想要孩子，因为气候变化，但这并不是问题的根本。事实上，很多人无法负担得起养孩子，因为生活成本压得家庭喘不过气来。我们的世界已经和以前完全不同了。是的，养孩子会增加开支，但成本多年来已经在上升——所谓的“供应链问题”，很多人认为这只是一个方便的借口。
与此同时，企业创下了创纪录的利润，这并不是因为生意火爆，而是通过抬高价格并将责任归咎于“通货膨胀”。而工人的收入每年都在名义上减少，实际购买力越来越低，这意味着他们的劳动价值越来越小。对很多人来说，现在的工作感觉像是现代奴隶制。
 
@johnwilliam6092
Made me laugh when they mentioned about workplace pensions. Shifting the responsibility onto the working population, again.
 
当他们提到工作场所养老金时，真让我笑了。又把责任推到工人身上了。
 
@crobinsfly9979
For many men, and now myself, having to battle just to even be a father to your children in family court is a trauma probably equivalent to being in an actual shooting war for years. Therefore, my one daughter will be my only child. I got a vasectomy because I am never going through this again. I'm even high income, wfh and can afford this kid easily but I've opted out permanently due to the trauma many mothers inflict on their children's father by demanding his money and minimizing his custody for no reason at all.
 
对于很多男人，包括我自己，单单在家庭法庭上为成为孩子的父亲而斗争，就可能是和真正的枪战战争经历相当的创伤。因此，我的一个女儿将是我唯一的孩子。我做了绝育手术，因为我再也不想经历这样的事情了。即使我的收入很高，能在家工作，也能轻松养育这个孩子，但由于许多母亲对孩子的父亲施加创伤，要求他支付抚养费并减少他的监护权，我选择永久退出。
 
@CyborgZeta
I was thinking about this issue a few days ago. I suspect our economies were built up post-WWII under the assumption that populations would keep growing. Now that birth rates are declining, governments are concerned.
Either we're going to get more automation and AI to make up for less workers, or society as a whole will need to restructure itself to accommodate for smaller populations.
 
我几天前也在思考这个问题。我怀疑我们的经济是在二战后建立的，假设人口会持续增长。现在出生率下降，政府开始担忧。
我们要么通过更多的自动化和人工智能来弥补劳动力的减少，要么社会整体需要重构，以适应更小的人口。
 
@mikeb6459
The world feels so uncertain and one thing you need to bring a child into the world is stability.
 
这个世界感觉充满不确定性，而要把孩子带到这个世界上，唯一需要的是稳定。
 
@HurdyGurdy-m2t
Economists and governments the world over agonise over this question and charge consultants hundreds of thousands of dollars to help solve but that I could answer for free: who in their right mind would willingly have a child right now? You would condemn another life to living through the next 100 years, knowing what they will face? Couldn't be me or any of my girlfriends
 
全球的经济学家和政府都在为这个问题苦恼，并支付顾问数十万美元来解决这个问题，但我可以免费回答：谁会愿意现在生孩子？你会把另一个生命判定为在接下来的100年里面对它们将遭遇的种种困难吗？我做不到，任何我的女朋友也做不到。
 
@dannelson6980
Maybe the governments and economists need to figure out a system not based on a pyramid scheme, of an endlessly increasing population.
 
也许政府和经济学家需要想出一种系统，而不是基于金字塔骗局那样不断增长的人口。
 
@furfur5070
Living is only expensive if your lifestyle goals are unreasonable.  When my parents had my brother and me, they had no running water in the house, didn't have vacations,  had no gadgets(!), and rented.   Our very poor conditions did not stop us having a decent childhood.
 
生活之所以昂贵，是因为你的生活目标不切实际。当我的父母有我和我弟弟时，他们家里没有自来水，没有度假，没有任何小玩意儿(!)，还租房住。我们非常贫困的条件并没有阻止我们拥有一个体面的童年。
 
@theant9821
Money isn't the issue, its opinion, instead of wanting 4 or 6 kids maximum usually 2 is now the maximum. And 2 is not enough.
Our attitudes towards relationships, sex, family etc. Have drastically altered.
Kids aren't taught to aspire to have a family, they're taught to feed the economy with qualifications. Family doesn't get a mention anymore.
 
钱不是问题，问题是观念。过去通常愿意要4个或6个孩子，而现在最大通常只有2个。但2个孩子也不够。
我们对待关系、性、家庭等的态度已经发生了巨大的变化。
孩子们不再被教导要有一个家庭的愿望，他们被教导要通过获得资格来为经济做贡献。家庭再也不会提及了。
 
@BVN-TEXAS
The other huge issue is the older retiring or close to retirement people are telling the younger generation to work harder and tighten their belt and just accept they will have to live with less and not have what their parents did while they scream we are not going to give an inch or accept any decrease in our lifestyle.
They basically are saying look we have gone our whole life and become accustomed to this nice cushy standard of living so it would be horrible for us to have to downs size and accept a lower standard of living.
 
另一个巨大的问题是，临近退休或已经退休的老人告诉年轻一代要更加努力工作，勒紧裤带，接受自己将不得不生活得比父母少，而他们自己却大喊着“不愿意接受任何生活标准的下降”。
他们基本上在说，看，我们整个人生都习惯了这种舒适的生活标准，所以如果我们必须缩小规模、接受更低的生活标准，那将是很糟糕的。

But you younger kids yall haven’t built a life on this nice standard of living like we have so it’s ok for you to accept a lower one at your young age and just get used to it.
And they want us to accept this lower standard of living so we can pay the massive taxes to fund for them to keep their standards of living with this massive inflation they created to ,,, wait for it ,, keep their standards of living.
And when the younger generation says ok we just won’t have kids and will save our money and refuse to work the back breaking manual labor jobs to keep your area of town all nice and pretty,, the older ones say ok no problem,we will just flood the country with migrants that we can use to do slave labor.
And they figure since they are retired and pensioners, they can stay home and don’t have to go out and deal with the mess they have made of society.
 
但是你们年轻人还没有在这种优越的生活标准下建立生活，所以你们可以在年轻时接受更低的标准，慢慢适应。
他们希望我们接受更低的生活标准，好让我们支付巨额税收，以支撑他们保持他们的生活水平，同时通过他们制造的通货膨胀来“保持”他们的生活标准。
当年轻一代说好，我们决定不生孩子，存钱，不愿意做那些令人筋疲力尽的体力劳动来保持你们小镇的一切都美好时，老一辈的人说，没问题，我们会用大量移民来填补这些职位，来做奴工。
他们觉得既然自己已经退休，拿养老金，就可以待在家里，不用去应付他们为社会带来的混乱。
 
@DaimonAnimations
As long as A.I. continue to take jobs away a lot less people will not want to have kids when your job can be taken away. So if corpos prefer A.I. over people then this is going to continue and people won't be able to afford anything.
 
只要人工智能继续剥夺工作，很多人都不愿意生孩子，因为一旦你的工作被取代了，你怎么养家呢？如果公司更偏爱人工智能而非人类，那么这种情况会继续下去，人们将无法负担任何东西。