戈登·布朗在呼吁取消二孩福利上限时表示，英国60年来从未出现过如此贫困的情况
UK hasn’t seen poverty like this for 60 years, says Gordon Brown in call to scrap two-child benefit cap
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“如果人们工作40个小时还买不起食物，他们就抗议不起了。”——《独立报》报道。
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UK hasn’t seen poverty like this for 60 years, says Gordon Brown in call to scrap two-child benefit cap
-The former prime minister backed reforms to gambling taxes in order to generate the £3.2bn needed to scrap the cap
戈登·布朗在呼吁取消二孩福利上限时表示，英国60年来从未出现过如此贫困的情况
——这位前首相支持对赌博税进行改革，以产生取消上限所需的32亿英镑
(Rachel Reeves defends decision not to lift two-child benefit cap.)
（雷切尔·里夫斯为不取消二孩福利上限的决定辩护。）
新闻：
Britain has not seen poverty this bad for more than half a century, Gordon Brown has warned as he urged Sir Keir Starmer to scrap the two-child benefit cap at the next Budget.
英国的贫困状况半个多世纪以来从未如此严重，戈登·布朗警告说，他敦促斯塔默在下一份预算中取消两孩的福利上限。
The former Labour prime minister and chancellor – who said “we are dealing with a divided Britain” and described it as a “social crisis” – backed the introduction of reforms to gambling taxes in order to generate the £3.2bn needed to scrap the cap.
这位前工党首相和财政大臣表示，“我们面对的是一个分裂的英国”，并将其描述为一场“社会危机”。他支持引入赌博税改革，以产生取消上限所需的32亿英镑。
Mr Brown said the gambling industry is “undertaxed”, throwing his weight behind a report from the Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR), which said that around half a million children could be lifted out of poverty through the reforms.
布朗表示，博彩业“税收过低”，他支持公共政策研究所的一份报告，该报告称，通过改革，大约50万儿童可以摆脱贫困。
The two-child benefit cap, which was introduced by Conservative chancellor George Osborne, prevents parents from claiming benefits for a third or subsequent child born after April 2017.
二孩福利上限由保守党财政大臣乔治·奥斯本推出，禁止父母为2017年4月以后出生的第三个或更多孩子申请福利。
Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, the former prime minister issued a stark warning about the state of Britain after 14 years of austerity under the Conservatives, urging the current government to take action.
在BBC广播4频道的《今日》节目中，这位前首相对保守党执政14年后的英国现状发出了严厉警告，敦促现任政府采取行动。
“Look, we’re dealing with a divided Britain. We’re dealing with a social crisis,” he said. “This problem is getting worse. It’s going to worsen over the next few years, because there’s a built-in escalator in the poverty figures because of the two-child rule.”
“看，我们面对的是一个分裂的英国。我们正在应对一场社会危机。这个问题越来越严重。在接下来的几年里，情况会变得更糟，因为二孩政策会导致贫困人口急剧增加。”
He added: “I live in the constituency in which I grew up. I still live here. I see every day this situation getting worse, and I did not think I would see the kind of poverty I saw when I was growing up, when we had slum housing, when we had travelling people coming to my school.
他补充说：“我住在我长大的选区。我还住在这里。我看到这种情况每天都在恶化，我以前不认为我会看到我在成长过程中看到的那种贫困，当我们有贫民窟的住房，当我们有旅行的人来我的学校。
“This is a return to the kind of poverty of 60 years ago, and I think we’ve got to act now, and that’s why it’s urgent that we take action in this Budget.”
“这是回到60年前的那种贫困，我认为我们现在必须采取行动，这就是为什么我们迫切需要在这个预算中采取行动。”
Speaking to ITV, he added: “You cannot have a situation where, under a Labour government, child poverty numbers just go up, and up, and up.”
在接受英国独立电视台采访时，他补充说：“在工党政府的领导下，儿童贫困人数不可能一直上升、上升、再上升。”
Rachel Reeves left the door open to a hike in gambling tax following Mr Brown’s comments, saying she had spoken with the former prime minister last week and that she is “deeply concerned around the levels of child poverty in Britain”.
在布朗发表评论后，雷切尔·里夫斯为提高赌博税开了大门，称她上周与这位前首相进行了交谈，她“对英国儿童的贫困程度深感担忧”。
Asked whether she was considering his proposals, the chancellor said on a visit to Dyffryn, in south Wales: “No child should grow up hungry, or parents not be able to afford the basics for their family.
当被问及她是否在考虑他的提议时，这位财政大臣在走访南威尔士的达夫林时说：“不应该有孩子饿着肚子长大，或者父母买不起家庭的基本生活必需品。
“We're a Labour government. Of course we care about child poverty. That’s why one of the first things we did as a government was to set up a child poverty taskforce that will be reporting in the autumn, and [we will] respond to it then.”
“我们是工党政府。我们当然关心儿童贫困问题。这就是为什么我们作为政府所做的第一件事就是成立一个儿童贫困问题工作组，并将在秋季报告，然后（我们）对此作出回应。”
She added: “We’ve already launched a review into gambling taxes. We’re taking evidence on that at the moment and, again, we’ll set out our policies in the normal way, in our Budget later this year.”
她补充说：“我们已经启动了对赌博税的审查。我们目前正在收集证据，我们将在今年晚些时候的预算中以正常方式制定我们的政策。”
Sir Keir Starmer is thought to be personally in favour of scrapping the cap, but after a number of expensive U-turns and a new report from top economists warning that the chancellor is facing a £51bn black hole in the public finances, there are growing questions over how the prime minister would be able to fund such a move.
据信，斯塔默个人支持取消上限，但经过多次代价高昂的180度大转弯，以及顶级经济学家的一份新报告警告称，财政大臣正面临510亿英镑的公共财政黑洞，人们越来越多地质疑，这位首相将如何为这一举措提供资金。
MPs from across Labour have repeatedly urged the prime minister to scrap or ease the limit as concern grows over the direction of the party. Critics of the policy say removing it would be the most effective way of reducing child poverty, amid warnings that as many as 100 children are pulled into poverty every day because of the cap.
随着人们对工党未来发展方向的担忧日益加剧，工党各党派的议员们一再敦促首相废除或放宽这一限制。批评该政策的人士表示，取消这一政策将是减少儿童贫困的最有效方式，有警告称，每天有多达100名儿童因这一上限而陷入贫困。
Kate Osborne, the Labour MP for Jarrow and Gateshead East, backed Mr Brown’s intervention, saying she “completely agrees” with the former prime minister and urging the government to scrap the two-child benefit cap “as soon as possible”.
来自贾罗和盖茨黑德东区的工党议员凯特·奥斯本支持布朗的干预，称她“完全赞同”这位前首相的观点，并敦促政府“尽快”取消二孩福利上限。
“Tackling child poverty should be our No 1 priority. Child poverty scars people for life,” she said. “The North East has the highest levels of child poverty; it has reached nearly 40 per cent in my constituency.
她称：“解决儿童贫困问题应该是我们的首要任务。儿童贫困给人们留下了终生的创伤。东北部的儿童贫困程度最高；在我的选区，它已达到近40%。
“Scrapping the cap would take 500,000 kids out of poverty immediately. It should be done as soon as possible, and should be paid for by taxing the richest in society and those that make a profit out of other people’s pain and addiction.”
“取消上限将使50万儿童立即摆脱贫困。这应该尽快完成，并且应该通过对社会上最富有的人和那些从别人的痛苦和成瘾中获利的人征税来支付。”
York Central MP Rachael Maskell, who was suspended from Labour after leading a rebellion against the government’s controversial welfare reforms earlier this year, urged Sir Keir to go even further than scrapping the two-child limit.
约克中央议员蕾切尔·马斯克尔在今年早些时候领导了一场反对政府有争议的福利改革的叛乱后被工党停职，她敦促斯塔默在取消二孩的限制之外更进一步。
“It is vital that the right fiscal interventions are seen as a priority, and hypothecating a gambling tax is a positive start to lift the first 360,000 children out of poverty through scrapping the two-child limit,” she said. “However, scrapping the cap will not be enough. Families need stability and support, wages need to pay the bills, and children need environments in which they can thrive.”
“至关重要的是，正确的财政干预被视为优先事项，而赌博税是一个积极的开始，通过取消二孩限制，使第一批36万儿童摆脱贫困，”她说。“然而，仅仅取消上限是不够的。家庭需要稳定和支持，工资需要支付账单，孩子需要能够茁壮成长的环境。”
Ms Maskell added: “The contribution that the former prime minister, Gordon Brown, has made to this debate is significant ahead of the autumn Budget. I trust government will follow the evidence and ensure every child has the best start in life.”
马斯克尔补充道：“在秋季预算公布之前，前首相戈登·布朗在这场辩论中做出的贡献意义重大。我相信政府会遵循证据，确保每个孩子都有最好的人生开端。”
It is thought that a decision on the cap won’t be taken until the government publishes its child poverty strategy, which has now been delayed until the autumn.
人们原先认为，在政府公布其儿童贫困战略（该战略现在已被推迟到秋季）之前，不会对上限做出决定。
Mr Brown said he understands that Reeves has “inherited a very difficult fiscal situation”, but warned: “At the Budget, the government has one straightforward choice. Gambling will not build our country for the next generation, but children free from poverty will.”
布朗表示，他理解里夫斯“接手了一个非常困难的财政状况”，但他警告说：“在预算中，政府有一个直接的选择。赌博不会为下一代建设我们的国家，但摆脱贫困的孩子们会。”
His comments came after the IPPR report urged the government to look at changing the way gambling is taxed, which it said could raise £3.2bn. It suggested an increase in tax paid by online casinos, from 21 per cent to 50 per cent, and raising the levy on slot and gaming machines from 20 per cent to 50 per cent.
在他发表上述言论之前，英国公共政策研究所的报告敦促政府考虑改变对赌博征税的方式，报告称这可能会筹集32亿英镑。它建议将在线赌场的税率从21%提高到50%，并将老虎机和游戏机的税率从20%提高到50%。
The organisation also proposed raising general betting duty on non-racing bets from 15 per cent to 25 per cent, which it said would bring other sports in line with the rates paid by horseracing.
该组织还提议将非赛马投注的一般投注税从15%提高到25%，并表示这将使其他体育项目与赛马支付的税率保持一致。
The IPPR said raising gambling taxes like this would be unlikely to reduce overall government revenue.
公共政策研究所表示，像这样提高赌博税不太可能减少政府的整体收入。
But a spokesperson for the Betting and Gaming Council rejected the “economically reckless, factually misleading” proposals, which it said “risk driving huge numbers to the growing, unsafe, unregulated gambling black market, which doesn’t protect consumers and contributes zero tax”.
但博彩和博彩委员会的一位发言人拒绝了这一“不计经济后果、误导事实”的提议，称该提议“有可能将大量群体推向日益增长、不安全、不受监管的赌博黑市，这既不能保护消费者，也会导致零税收”。
They added: “Further tax rises, fresh off the back of government reforms which cost the sector over a billion in lost revenue, would do more harm than good – for punters, jobs, growth and public finances.”
他们补充说：“政府改革刚刚结束，已经导致该行业损失了超过10亿美元的收入，进一步增税对赌客、就业、经济增长和公共财政来说弊大于利。”
The Treasury has been contacted for comment.
记者联系了财政部请其置评。
-The former prime minister backed reforms to gambling taxes in order to generate the £3.2bn needed to scrap the cap
戈登·布朗在呼吁取消二孩福利上限时表示，英国60年来从未出现过如此贫困的情况
——这位前首相支持对赌博税进行改革，以产生取消上限所需的32亿英镑
(Rachel Reeves defends decision not to lift two-child benefit cap.)
（雷切尔·里夫斯为不取消二孩福利上限的决定辩护。）
新闻：
Britain has not seen poverty this bad for more than half a century, Gordon Brown has warned as he urged Sir Keir Starmer to scrap the two-child benefit cap at the next Budget.
英国的贫困状况半个多世纪以来从未如此严重，戈登·布朗警告说，他敦促斯塔默在下一份预算中取消两孩的福利上限。
The former Labour prime minister and chancellor – who said “we are dealing with a divided Britain” and described it as a “social crisis” – backed the introduction of reforms to gambling taxes in order to generate the £3.2bn needed to scrap the cap.
这位前工党首相和财政大臣表示，“我们面对的是一个分裂的英国”，并将其描述为一场“社会危机”。他支持引入赌博税改革，以产生取消上限所需的32亿英镑。
Mr Brown said the gambling industry is “undertaxed”, throwing his weight behind a report from the Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR), which said that around half a million children could be lifted out of poverty through the reforms.
布朗表示，博彩业“税收过低”，他支持公共政策研究所的一份报告，该报告称，通过改革，大约50万儿童可以摆脱贫困。
The two-child benefit cap, which was introduced by Conservative chancellor George Osborne, prevents parents from claiming benefits for a third or subsequent child born after April 2017.
二孩福利上限由保守党财政大臣乔治·奥斯本推出，禁止父母为2017年4月以后出生的第三个或更多孩子申请福利。
Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, the former prime minister issued a stark warning about the state of Britain after 14 years of austerity under the Conservatives, urging the current government to take action.
在BBC广播4频道的《今日》节目中，这位前首相对保守党执政14年后的英国现状发出了严厉警告，敦促现任政府采取行动。
“Look, we’re dealing with a divided Britain. We’re dealing with a social crisis,” he said. “This problem is getting worse. It’s going to worsen over the next few years, because there’s a built-in escalator in the poverty figures because of the two-child rule.”
“看，我们面对的是一个分裂的英国。我们正在应对一场社会危机。这个问题越来越严重。在接下来的几年里，情况会变得更糟，因为二孩政策会导致贫困人口急剧增加。”
He added: “I live in the constituency in which I grew up. I still live here. I see every day this situation getting worse, and I did not think I would see the kind of poverty I saw when I was growing up, when we had slum housing, when we had travelling people coming to my school.
他补充说：“我住在我长大的选区。我还住在这里。我看到这种情况每天都在恶化，我以前不认为我会看到我在成长过程中看到的那种贫困，当我们有贫民窟的住房，当我们有旅行的人来我的学校。
“This is a return to the kind of poverty of 60 years ago, and I think we’ve got to act now, and that’s why it’s urgent that we take action in this Budget.”
“这是回到60年前的那种贫困，我认为我们现在必须采取行动，这就是为什么我们迫切需要在这个预算中采取行动。”
Speaking to ITV, he added: “You cannot have a situation where, under a Labour government, child poverty numbers just go up, and up, and up.”
在接受英国独立电视台采访时，他补充说：“在工党政府的领导下，儿童贫困人数不可能一直上升、上升、再上升。”
Rachel Reeves left the door open to a hike in gambling tax following Mr Brown’s comments, saying she had spoken with the former prime minister last week and that she is “deeply concerned around the levels of child poverty in Britain”.
在布朗发表评论后，雷切尔·里夫斯为提高赌博税开了大门，称她上周与这位前首相进行了交谈，她“对英国儿童的贫困程度深感担忧”。
Asked whether she was considering his proposals, the chancellor said on a visit to Dyffryn, in south Wales: “No child should grow up hungry, or parents not be able to afford the basics for their family.
当被问及她是否在考虑他的提议时，这位财政大臣在走访南威尔士的达夫林时说：“不应该有孩子饿着肚子长大，或者父母买不起家庭的基本生活必需品。
“We're a Labour government. Of course we care about child poverty. That’s why one of the first things we did as a government was to set up a child poverty taskforce that will be reporting in the autumn, and [we will] respond to it then.”
“我们是工党政府。我们当然关心儿童贫困问题。这就是为什么我们作为政府所做的第一件事就是成立一个儿童贫困问题工作组，并将在秋季报告，然后（我们）对此作出回应。”
She added: “We’ve already launched a review into gambling taxes. We’re taking evidence on that at the moment and, again, we’ll set out our policies in the normal way, in our Budget later this year.”
她补充说：“我们已经启动了对赌博税的审查。我们目前正在收集证据，我们将在今年晚些时候的预算中以正常方式制定我们的政策。”
Sir Keir Starmer is thought to be personally in favour of scrapping the cap, but after a number of expensive U-turns and a new report from top economists warning that the chancellor is facing a £51bn black hole in the public finances, there are growing questions over how the prime minister would be able to fund such a move.
据信，斯塔默个人支持取消上限，但经过多次代价高昂的180度大转弯，以及顶级经济学家的一份新报告警告称，财政大臣正面临510亿英镑的公共财政黑洞，人们越来越多地质疑，这位首相将如何为这一举措提供资金。
MPs from across Labour have repeatedly urged the prime minister to scrap or ease the limit as concern grows over the direction of the party. Critics of the policy say removing it would be the most effective way of reducing child poverty, amid warnings that as many as 100 children are pulled into poverty every day because of the cap.
随着人们对工党未来发展方向的担忧日益加剧，工党各党派的议员们一再敦促首相废除或放宽这一限制。批评该政策的人士表示，取消这一政策将是减少儿童贫困的最有效方式，有警告称，每天有多达100名儿童因这一上限而陷入贫困。
Kate Osborne, the Labour MP for Jarrow and Gateshead East, backed Mr Brown’s intervention, saying she “completely agrees” with the former prime minister and urging the government to scrap the two-child benefit cap “as soon as possible”.
来自贾罗和盖茨黑德东区的工党议员凯特·奥斯本支持布朗的干预，称她“完全赞同”这位前首相的观点，并敦促政府“尽快”取消二孩福利上限。
“Tackling child poverty should be our No 1 priority. Child poverty scars people for life,” she said. “The North East has the highest levels of child poverty; it has reached nearly 40 per cent in my constituency.
她称：“解决儿童贫困问题应该是我们的首要任务。儿童贫困给人们留下了终生的创伤。东北部的儿童贫困程度最高；在我的选区，它已达到近40%。
“Scrapping the cap would take 500,000 kids out of poverty immediately. It should be done as soon as possible, and should be paid for by taxing the richest in society and those that make a profit out of other people’s pain and addiction.”
“取消上限将使50万儿童立即摆脱贫困。这应该尽快完成，并且应该通过对社会上最富有的人和那些从别人的痛苦和成瘾中获利的人征税来支付。”
York Central MP Rachael Maskell, who was suspended from Labour after leading a rebellion against the government’s controversial welfare reforms earlier this year, urged Sir Keir to go even further than scrapping the two-child limit.
约克中央议员蕾切尔·马斯克尔在今年早些时候领导了一场反对政府有争议的福利改革的叛乱后被工党停职，她敦促斯塔默在取消二孩的限制之外更进一步。
“It is vital that the right fiscal interventions are seen as a priority, and hypothecating a gambling tax is a positive start to lift the first 360,000 children out of poverty through scrapping the two-child limit,” she said. “However, scrapping the cap will not be enough. Families need stability and support, wages need to pay the bills, and children need environments in which they can thrive.”
“至关重要的是，正确的财政干预被视为优先事项，而赌博税是一个积极的开始，通过取消二孩限制，使第一批36万儿童摆脱贫困，”她说。“然而，仅仅取消上限是不够的。家庭需要稳定和支持，工资需要支付账单，孩子需要能够茁壮成长的环境。”
Ms Maskell added: “The contribution that the former prime minister, Gordon Brown, has made to this debate is significant ahead of the autumn Budget. I trust government will follow the evidence and ensure every child has the best start in life.”
马斯克尔补充道：“在秋季预算公布之前，前首相戈登·布朗在这场辩论中做出的贡献意义重大。我相信政府会遵循证据，确保每个孩子都有最好的人生开端。”
It is thought that a decision on the cap won’t be taken until the government publishes its child poverty strategy, which has now been delayed until the autumn.
人们原先认为，在政府公布其儿童贫困战略（该战略现在已被推迟到秋季）之前，不会对上限做出决定。
Mr Brown said he understands that Reeves has “inherited a very difficult fiscal situation”, but warned: “At the Budget, the government has one straightforward choice. Gambling will not build our country for the next generation, but children free from poverty will.”
布朗表示，他理解里夫斯“接手了一个非常困难的财政状况”，但他警告说：“在预算中，政府有一个直接的选择。赌博不会为下一代建设我们的国家，但摆脱贫困的孩子们会。”
His comments came after the IPPR report urged the government to look at changing the way gambling is taxed, which it said could raise £3.2bn. It suggested an increase in tax paid by online casinos, from 21 per cent to 50 per cent, and raising the levy on slot and gaming machines from 20 per cent to 50 per cent.
在他发表上述言论之前，英国公共政策研究所的报告敦促政府考虑改变对赌博征税的方式，报告称这可能会筹集32亿英镑。它建议将在线赌场的税率从21%提高到50%，并将老虎机和游戏机的税率从20%提高到50%。
The organisation also proposed raising general betting duty on non-racing bets from 15 per cent to 25 per cent, which it said would bring other sports in line with the rates paid by horseracing.
该组织还提议将非赛马投注的一般投注税从15%提高到25%，并表示这将使其他体育项目与赛马支付的税率保持一致。
The IPPR said raising gambling taxes like this would be unlikely to reduce overall government revenue.
公共政策研究所表示，像这样提高赌博税不太可能减少政府的整体收入。
But a spokesperson for the Betting and Gaming Council rejected the “economically reckless, factually misleading” proposals, which it said “risk driving huge numbers to the growing, unsafe, unregulated gambling black market, which doesn’t protect consumers and contributes zero tax”.
但博彩和博彩委员会的一位发言人拒绝了这一“不计经济后果、误导事实”的提议，称该提议“有可能将大量群体推向日益增长、不安全、不受监管的赌博黑市，这既不能保护消费者，也会导致零税收”。
They added: “Further tax rises, fresh off the back of government reforms which cost the sector over a billion in lost revenue, would do more harm than good – for punters, jobs, growth and public finances.”
他们补充说：“政府改革刚刚结束，已经导致该行业损失了超过10亿美元的收入，进一步增税对赌客、就业、经济增长和公共财政来说弊大于利。”
The Treasury has been contacted for comment.
记者联系了财政部请其置评。
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Yet no one is protesting. How much lower before people get to the streets and demand change…
Instead of uniting and fighting together, they easily pit us against each other in the name of immigrants and religion.
How’s this different to any “third-world” nation?
然而没有人抗议。在人们走上街头要求改变之前还要降低多少？
他们没有团结起来共同斗争，而是以移民和宗教的名义轻易地让我们彼此对立。
这和任何“第三世界”国家有什么区别？
LauraPhilps7654
The anger gets funneled into voting for people like Trump and Farage - who are ultra-capitalist robber barons with nothing but contempt for poor and struggling people. But that way, the rich stay rich, and our meagre wages just end up right back in their pockets.
愤怒被集中到投票给特朗普和法拉奇这样的人——他们是极端资本主义的强盗大亨，除了蔑视穷人和挣扎的人什么都没有。但这样一来，富人就有钱了，而我们微薄的工资最终又回到了他们的口袋里。
cooky56
People can’t afford to protest, if they can’t afford food despite working for 40 hours. Doesn’t mean they don’t want to.
如果人们工作40个小时还买不起食物，他们就抗议不起了。不代表他们不想抗议。
No-Pack-5775
They don't want to
There's no class conscience
There's no awareness that a capitalist system will suck the life out of working people without checks and balances
The interests being represented are the people who can afford lobbyists and prop up the status quo
So people see their life getting worse, and get bombarded with propaganda blaming "the boat people" (4% of immigration) thinking that will magically fix everything
他们不想这么做
没有阶级良心
没有人意识到资本主义制度会在没有制衡的情况下榨干劳动人民的生命
被代表的利益是那些能买得起说客和维持现状的人
因此，人们看到自己的生活越来越糟，并受到指责“船民”（占移民总数的4%）的宣传轰炸，认为阻挡“船民”就能神奇地解决一切问题
GNU_Terry
when it costs a weeks food to go to an organised protest of any considerable size (usually a big city) I think it's safe to say that for some of us we can't reasonably protest. id love to go but most protests are in London and trains are extortionate, at the moment I'm barely affording to pay off my debt
当参加任何规模的有组织的抗议活动（通常是在大城市）需要花费一周的食物时，我想可以肯定地说，对我们中的一些人来说，我们无法合理地抗议。我很想去，但大多数抗议活动都在伦敦，火车票太贵了，目前我几乎还不起我的债务
Independent_Plum2166
Okay, so I’m not saying we should all drop everything and start protesting. But complaining that you can’t afford to protest is sort of the problem.
Meanwhile, the French took down their corrupt monarchy over being unable to afford food (amongst other things, but still).
Just saying, not being able to afford food is exactly the reason to start protests.
好吧，我不是说我们应该放下一切，开始抗议。但抱怨你无力抗议才是问题所在。
与此同时，法国人推翻了他们腐败的君主制，因为他们买不起食物（还有其他原因，但仍然重要）。
我只是说，买不起食物正是开始抗议的原因。
GNU_Terry
you cant expect those struggling to survive to protest when they don't have any reasonable means to join those protest. saying something like the French managed it when they had nothing is one thing but they had nothing to lose and at a time when society was completely different.
you cant expect someone living on an a balancing act to risk loosing everything to protest for a better situation when doing so could land them worse off. protesting for some could be the difference between having food or not, would you go protest if you had to go a week without food?
你不能指望那些挣扎求生的人在没有任何合理手段加入抗议的情况下进行抗议。说法国人在一无所有的情况下做到了是一回事，但他们也没有什么可失去的，而且当时的社会背景完全不同。
你不能指望一个生活在平衡中的人冒着失去一切的风险去抗议争取一个更好的情况，因为这样做可能会让他们的情况更糟。对一些人来说，抗议可能是有饭吃/没饭吃的区别，如果你不得不一周没饭吃，你还会去抗议吗？
Both-Mud-4362
When people are systematically starved, denied health care and forced to work ungodly hours to subsist they don't have the energy for revolution. Instead you end up with a population filled with apathy.
And as long as immigration is an option to replace the dying apathetic workforce. The rich won't care.
We need to protest ministers and the PM for a push towards taxing Wealth.
当人们系统性地挨饿，得不到医疗保健，被迫长时间工作以维持生计时，他们就没有精力搞革命。相反，你最终得到的是一群冷漠的人。
而且只要移民是替代垂死的冷漠劳动力的一个选择。富人是不会在意的。
我们需要抗议大臣们和首相，争取推动对财富征税。
tpool
Yet gold prices and stock markets are all hitting record highs. The money's here it's just in the wrong hands.
然而，金价和股市都创下了历史新高。钱就在这里，只是落入了坏人之手。
Swangthemthings
It’s not poverty. It’s corporate greed which should be called corruption, or even treason. These corporations have been allowed to “lobby” to politicians and get away with murder.
这不是贫穷。这是企业的贪婪，应该被称为腐败，甚至叛国。这些公司被允许“游说”政客，并逃脱谋杀的惩罚。
ramsdam
The key to all of this is house prices. If they had remained in line with other prices we would have better day to day lives.
这一切的关键是房价。如果它们与其他价格保持一致，我们的日常生活就会更好。
NibblyPigBristol
Probably the best way to do that is to convince people that flocking to urban locations will make them absolutely miserable.
The number of people in Bristol that have absolutely miserable lives but will do anything including living in squalor and losing over half their income to rent just to stay there is utterly staggering and worthy of study.
Whenever one of them finally runs out of money and ability to slog on they leave, and then shortly after post about how they're suddenly really happy because they have money, their rent is lower, they can enjoy their life, have hobbies, save a bit of money, etc.
也许最好的方法是让人们相信，涌向城市会让他们非常痛苦。
在布里斯托尔，有多少人过着绝对悲惨的生活，但他们愿意做任何事情，包括住在肮脏的地方，为了住在那里而把一半以上的收入花在房租上，这是完全惊人的，值得研究。
每当他们中的一个最终花光了钱，没有能力继续奋斗时，他们就会离开，然后不久就会发帖子说他们突然很开心，因为他们有钱了，房租更低了，他们可以享受生活，有爱好，省下一点钱，等等。
OTribal_chief
the amount of hoarding by the super elite is absolutely insane there just isnt that same amount of money going around the economy and instead the few are getting the money yet those businesses arent getting taxed like they should be
超级精英的囤积量绝对是疯狂的，没有那种规模的钱进入到经济中，相反，少数人得到了钱，就这样那些企业还没有缴纳应当缴纳的税
Flat_Revolution5130
And who,s fault is that.? Its only going to get worse as well due to an utterly crap government. That then could open the door to an even crapper government.
这是谁的错呢？由于一个完全垃圾的政府，情况只会变得更糟。而这又可能会为一个更加糟糕的政府打开大门。
Familiar-Woodpecker5
One day people will understand that the government isn’t in charge of the UK. The civil servants have more control than the MPs. MPs are nothing but spokespeople. This is all by design.
总有一天人们会明白，政府其实并不掌管英国。公务员比国会议员有更多的控制权。议员不过是发言人。这都是设计好的。