DRDO反对与法国签署价值6100亿卢比的AMCA发动机协议，因为法国拒绝向印度转让卡弗里发动机的相关技术

@galaxyofvid2738
What happened to swadeshi beggas  want transfer of tech irony isn't it you got pushpak viman tech

那些高喊本土化的人怎么了，现在又想要技术转让了，真是讽刺啊，你们不是已经有普什帕克飞行器的技术了吗


@SUJITDAS-yp3px
Samaj nehi atihe  india ke baiganik kiya karata hay France che ata, Russia che ata hay Russia 15 core ki desh ar india to 150 core ki des kiya karata,

我看不懂，印度的科学家都在做什么，法国来的，俄罗斯来的，俄罗斯的人口才1.5亿，而印度有15亿，印度到底在做什么


@nagarajgosukonda3381
The PMO should not ignore DRDOs warning...... the similar things like source code would happen

总理办公室不应该无视印度国防研究与发展组织的警告，否则同样的事情比如源代码泄露也会发生


@virendranegi2218
No one would give you source code not even russia. But yes whom ever will choose roll royce or saffran both will not give IP right to India. So the Amca is project is bound to fail given we have are partnering with other country...
Hence I believe shutting down Kaveri Engine was such a disaster.

没有任何国家会给你源代码，连俄罗斯都不会，而且无论选择罗尔斯罗伊斯还是赛峰，他们都不会把知识产权转让给印度，所以AMCA项目注定要失败，因为我们正在与其他国家合作，因此我认为关闭“卡弗里”发动机真是一个灾难


@lalittripathi9968
russia ne diya h isliye he apne missile integrate kiye hai sukhoi mai ..

这是因为俄罗斯提供了这些导弹，所以才在苏霍伊战机上集成了这些导弹


@vulnerablelko
​​ @lalittripathi9968  missile integration is a different thing which can be done  without giving source codes but still it requires many permissions from the origin country

导弹集成是另一回事，可以在不提供源代码的情况下进行，但仍然需要原产国许多许可


@kishorbpatel
Wrong example on source code. There was NO agreement on source code. It was just requested and denied.

源码的例子是错误的，关于源码并没有达成任何协议，只是提出了请求但被拒绝了


@kishorbpatel
Really?  Kaveri engine has been in development since 1986!  They have not even got Tejas engine developed!!  At this rate AMCA engine would not be done by even 2047 by DRDO alone. DRDO does need collaboration with a proven developer for accelerated timeline. Just make them sign penalty clauses if they fail to transfer technology.

真的吗？Kaveri发动机从1986年就开始研发了，到现在连“光辉”战斗机的发动机都还没开发出来，照这个速度，单靠DRDO，AMCA的发动机到2047年都未必能完成，DRDO确实需要和有成熟经验的开发商合作才能加快进度，只要让他们签好技术转让失败的惩罚条款就行


@commentor2594
Yeah we should wait for 50 more years for engines

是啊我们应该再等五十年才能有引擎


@utkarshsingh7067
सरकार को कमिशन भी तो चाहिए भाई चुनाव में पैसा लगता है ।

政府也要抽成的啊，选举可是要花钱的


@sanjeevsharma1413
Japan ke sath milker amca ka engine banwana chahiye.

应该和日本一起合作开发AMCA的发动机。


@Heman-kz6xr
​ @vulnerablelko  we need source code to integrate Rafale with S400

我们需要源代码来将阵风战斗机与S400进行整合


@asishrout9952
DRDO is right 
We stand with DRDO

DRDO是对的，我们支持DRDO


@kishorbpatel
Supporting DRDO does not mean Rolls Royce is more trusted than Safran. UK is more influenced by anti India interests than France

支持DRDO并不意味着劳斯莱斯比赛峰更值得信赖，英国受反印势力影响比法国更大


@S.L.0311
supporting or not supporting doesnt mean anything, its about choosing  right partner while considering geo-politics, foreign relations, track record of part project and other factors for a critical project of IAF

支持或不支持其实并没有什么意义，关键是在印度空军这样的重要项目中，综合考虑地缘政治、外交关系、以往合作项目的表现以及其他因素，选择合适的合作伙伴


@Charizard-xyz1
Drdo doesn’t know anything about Geopolitics.

DRDO对地缘政治一无所知


@ItachiUchiha-n6n5p
We can develop our own but it’s need a better team of scientists which is available if we pay more salary and invest at list 50 billion dollars.

我们也可以自主研发，只需要一支更优秀的科学家团队，只要我们提高薪资并至少投资五百亿美元，这样的人才是可以招到的


@commentor2594
Bro drdo is delaying project we cant wait  any longer, babus closed kaveri in 2016, didn't order more tejas, FE 404 engine factory closed in absence of new orders, now ❤these babus are delaying GE414 manufacturing, they didn't order rafale jets now delaying more

兄弟，印度国防研究与发展组织一直在拖延项目，我们已经等不下去了，这帮官僚在2016年叫停了卡维里发动机，也没有追加光辉战机订单，FE404发动机工厂因为没有新订单而关闭，现在这些官僚又在拖延GE414发动机的生产，他们也没订购阵风战机，现在还在一拖再拖


@Charizard-xyz1
France :- Independent Foreign Policy 
Uk :- America Vassal State

法国：独立的外交政策  
英国：美国的附庸国


@commentor2594
​ @kishorbpatel  not getting engine would be more anti india then statements western countries make

比起西方国家的言论，拿不到发动机才更能体现反印度


@jaganmansingh1516
GOVT must listen to DRDO.

政府必须听取DRDO的意见


@indian8763
राफेल का सोर्स कोड आज तक नही दिया

到现在为止都没有给出阵风的源代码


@sharartibacha7273
Na kabhi dega

永远都不会给 （笑哭）


@sutradhar2009
I fully agreed with DRDO......France never deliver TOT

我完全同意DRDO，法国从来没有真正交付过技术转让


@jaspreetsingh-xg7if
Pta bhi hai ke Lo0tera france, Lo0tera britain,Lo0tera america Dhokebaj,Unreliable hai lekin phir bhi hamare leaders west ke sath weapons, engines deals karte hai. Aisa es liye karte hai kyonki hamare leaders Darpok, Corrupt, Mansik Gulam hai west ke. Mansik Gulami ke karn yeh leaders Mand-budhi vale ho gaye hai. west ke agay jukne ke karn enke decisions Maha-murakho jaise hote hai

大家都知道法国、英国、美国这些强盗国家虚伪、不可靠，可我们的领导人还是和西方做武器和发动机的交易，这是因为我们的领导人胆小、腐败、在思想上是西方的奴隶，这种思想上的奴役让他们变得愚蠢，面对西方总是低头，所以做出的决策也像极了大傻瓜


@snehasisbairagi2827
​ @jaspreetsingh-xg7if japan ka jet engine bhi to hay !

@jaspreetsingh-xg7if 日本也有喷气发动机


@sunilkumardupakuntla8837
I welcome DRDO move.  That is a right assessment from DRDO.  France says something and delives something.  Their words and acts are never aligned.
We are only fools if we are sigining contract with France.  Signing more deals means it is creating dependency also we are telling to France that we don't have options and we can't do anything even if they deny terms and conditions.  By signing deals with such vendors we are setting wrong expectation and presedence for future deals.  Never ever entertain such people.
At some point we need to become compititor for France only because of the kind of statements made by France naval personnel.

我支持印度国防研究与发展组织的做法，这是他们做出的正确判断。法国总是说一套做一套，他们的言行从来不一致。如果我们还和法国签合同，那只能说明我们是傻瓜，签更多协议只会让我们对他们产生依赖，同时也在向法国传递我们没有其他选择、即使他们拒绝合同条款我们也毫无办法的信息。和这样的供应商合作只会为将来的交易树立错误的期望和先例，绝不能容忍这样的人。法国海军人员所发表的那种言论终有一天要促使我们成为法国的竞争者。


@jaspreetsingh-xg7if
Pta bhi hai ke Lo0tera france, Lo0tera britain,Lo0tera america Dhokebaj,Unreliable hai lekin phir bhi hamare leaders west ke sath weapons, engines deals karte hai. Aisa es liye karte hai kyonki hamare leaders Darpok, Corrupt, Mansik Gulam hai west ke. Mansik Gulami ke karn yeh leaders Mand-budhi vale ho gaye hai. west ke agay jukne ke karn enke decisions Maha-murakho jaise hote hai

大家都知道像法国、英国、美国这样的国家是强盗，是骗子，不可靠，但我们的领导人还是要和西方做武器和发动机的生意，这是因为我们的领导人胆小、腐败、在思想上是西方的奴隶，正因为有这种思想上的奴性，这些领导人变得头脑迟钝，对西方低三下四，做的决定也像极了大笨蛋


@greenindiawithRajkumar
NATO policy to keep India in control

北约的政策是为了确保控制印度


@OmarSausage
NATO couldn't care less about India. You flatter yourselves to think otherwise.

北约根本不关心印度，你们觉得他们在意你们那只是自作多情


@pankajmittal9457
India should work with Japan simultaneously.

印度应该同时与日本展开合作


@sumitpandey3812
Japan is the closest ally of USA

日本是美国最亲密的盟友


@Samyak-c8e
Yes

是的


@jeevanlal23457
​ @sumitpandey3812 japan is also closet of india

@sumitpandey3812 日本其实也是印度的亲密伙伴


@daemon_0007
 @sumitpandey3812  Japan is the only ally of USA which was hit by them 1945.

日本是美国的唯一一个盟友，却在1945年被美国打击过


@Heman-kz6xr
Japan isn't an defense hub

日本不是一个防御枢纽


@Heman-kz6xr
​ @sumitpandey3812  Japan doesn't trust uncle sam either way they have been the victims of Trade W@r back in 70s-80s but the main issue is japan doesn't have independent foreign policy to start with other than that they have making huge investment in india since 1958

@sumitpandey3812 日本无论如何也不信任美国，他们在70年代到80年代曾是贸易战的受害者，但主要问题在于日本本身没有独立的外交政策，除此之外他们从1958年起就在印度进行了大量投资


@Daksh-f5i
​@jeevanlal23457 Lol who told you that ??

哈哈，这是谁告诉你的


@RV-oy3es
DRDO you are 100% right. No Deal

DRDO你说得完全对，这笔交易不能做


@theboysmeme
We can't trust anyone!!!

我们不能相信任何人


@vaibhavganave4356
No we trust Russia.

不，我们信任俄罗斯


@HOGWARTSEXPRESS-HE
no we can't trust anyone

我们谁也不能相信


@TheWatcher28
​​ @vaibhavganave4356 bhai Russia bhi full tot nhi karta su30 license production hai still kuch parts russia se import hote hai for the same reason

兄弟，俄罗斯也没有完全停止，苏30虽然是许可生产的，但有些零部件还是要从俄罗斯进口，就是因为这个原因


@shivanshwadhwani4417
Nobody is stupid to give away their technology, India should stop begging for Technology Transfer. But unfortunately Indian minds can’t build complex machinery, hence the begging to all the western nations, and in fact most machinery in manufacturing across India is Chinese, there too India just relies.

没有人会傻到把自己的技术拱手让人，印度应该停止乞求技术转让，但遗憾的是印度人的能力不足以自主研发复杂机械，所以只能向所有西方国家求助，实际上印度全国制造业所用的大部分机械设备都是中国造的，在这方面印度也只是依赖别人


@manmohanmalik2470
CANCEL AMCA ENGINE DEAL WITH FRANCE .

取消与法国的AMCA发动机合作协议


@Charizard-xyz1
rage bait successful

你成功用这种方式激怒大家了


@kumarrahul8699
DRDO is absolutely right about FRANCE.

DRDO对法国的看法完全正确


@Ricky098-p1t
paisey kay mamla mein Gorey apnay baap kay sagey nhn hotay... Its a big lesson learnt so India if going with Safran, check with all the loopholes before signing with Safran or RollsRoyce

在钱的问题上，外国人连自己亲爹都不认，这是一个很大的教训，所以印度如果要和赛峰公司合作，签合同之前一定要彻底查清所有漏洞，无论是赛峰还是罗尔斯·罗伊斯都一样


@jaspreetsingh-xg7if
Pta bhi hai ke Lo0tera france, Lo0tera britain,Lo0tera america Dhokebaj,Unreliable hai lekin phir bhi hamare leaders west ke sath weapons, engines deals karte hai. Aisa es liye karte hai kyonki hamare leaders Darpok, Corrupt, Mansik Gulam hai west ke. Mansik Gulami ke karn yeh leaders Mand-budhi vale ho gaye hai. west ke agay jukne ke karn enke decisions Maha-murakho jaise hote hai

我们都知道法国、英国、美国这些掠夺者国家是不可信的、是骗人的，但我们的领导人还是跟西方做武器和发动机的交易，这么做是因为我们的领导人胆小、腐败，对西方有精神上的奴性，正是因为有这种精神奴役，这些领导人变得愚蠢，他们在西方人面前低头，所以做出的决定也非常愚蠢


@fulltu1766
Absolutely correct, they diodn't even share source code for Rafales to integrate indigenously developed weapons.

完全正确，他们甚至没有分享“阵风”战斗机的源代码用于整合本国自主研发的武器


@OmarSausage
Because that wasn't in the purchase contract. Maybe you guys should have thought about that before signing the deal?

因为那并不在购入合同里，也许你们在签合同前就该考虑到这一点


@fulltu1766
@OmarSausage Pls share a copy of contract or share weblx of that contract, as far as I know 100% ToT was there, source code is part of that.

@OmarSausage 请分享一下合同副本或者该合同的网页链接，据我所知合同中是包含100%的技术转让，源代码也是其中的一部分


@jaspreetsingh-xg7if
​@OmarSausagePta bhi hai ke Lo0tera france, Lo0tera britain,Lo0tera america Dhokebaj,Unreliable hai lekin phir bhi hamare leaders west ke sath weapons, engines deals karte hai. Aisa es liye karte hai kyonki hamare leaders Darpok, Corrupt, Mansik Gulam hai west ke. Mansik Gulami ke karn yeh leaders Mand-budhi vale ho gaye hai. west ke agay jukne ke karn enke decisions Maha-murakho jaise hote hai

虽然法国、英国、美国这些国家都是诈骗犯、不可靠的，但是我们的领导人还是和西方国家进行武器和引擎交易，这是因为我们的领导人胆小、腐败、在心理上对西方有依赖，由于这种心理上的依赖，他们已经变得头脑迟钝，向西方低头导致他们的决策非常愚蠢


@shubhamawasthi4436
Government should consider these points

政府应该考虑这些方面


@AnilVerma-qh9hm
No no no brother , government wants all these points. Yes they donot want self dependency. High commission they are achieving.

不不不兄弟，政府就是要这些点，他们确实不希望我们自给自足，而且还在获取高额提成


@vishnuprakash799
Yeah..they didn't share the source code during war

是的，他们在战争期间都没有分享源代码


@thesecret6019
Bhai agar tumne fighter jet banane ke liye kayi saalon ki mehnat ki hain toh uske source code ka access aise hi kisiko de doge kya?!

兄弟，如果你花了好几年时间辛苦研发战斗机，你会轻易把它的源代码交给别人吗


@vishnuprakash799
​ @thesecret6019 however what is your problem when drdo says something about france?. Fake account ?!

但是，当DRDO说到法国的时候，你到底有什么问题，假账号？


@gauravmishra1671
 @thesecret6019  PAHLE PHIR KYU BOOLA THA KI SOURCE CODE BHI DENGE ? POORI JANAKARI RAKHA KARO

@thesecret6019 那你之前为什么说还会提供源码？以后把事情弄明白点


@gautamganguli1221
Sharing the source code is the same as handing over the ownership of the production  secrets along with the product itself. This is only now being allowed fir a fat fee if the supplier agrees..Never otherwise.

共享源代码就等同于在交付产品本身的同时，把生产过程中的核心机密也一并交出去，只有在供应商同意并收取高额费用的情况下才会允许这样做，除此之外绝不会允许


@vishnuprakash799
 @gautamganguli1221  DRDO is right . france agreed to help with kaveri during rafeal purchase . that was also fat fee. ain`t  it ??

@ gautamganguli1221  DRDO是对的，法国在采购阵风战机时同意帮助研发卡弗里发动机，这也是一笔不少的费用，不是吗


@Heman-kz6xr
​ @gauravmishra1671  toh GOI ne source code deal mein kyu nhi include kiya

那么印度政府为什么在协议中没有把源代码包含进去呢


@Sangram2031
Our engineers and IITans working there

我们的工程师和在那里工作的印度理工学院毕业生


@Aryvrt
We must take all technological advancements and developments at every step

我们必须在每一步都把握住所有的技术进步和发展


@shinigami_ryuk
funding nhi ho rhi sarkar se

没能从政府那里拿到资金


@DheerendraSingh-w2y
Bilkul sahi keh rahe h drdo wale..Ye france ki companies har bar aise hi kr rahi h..ager is bar bhi aise hi kiya to humare Airforce ka future hi khatre me aa jayega..We should consider for this engine Japan or either Rolls royce..France is not a trusted partner..

你说得完全正确，DRDO的看法没错，这些法国公司每次都是这样，如果这次还是这样做，我们空军的未来将会处于危险之中，我们应该考虑使用日本或者劳斯莱斯的发动机，法国并不是一个值得信赖的合作伙伴


@jaspreetsingh-xg7if
Pta bhi hai ke Lo0tera france, Lo0tera britain,Lo0tera america Dhokebaj,Unreliable hai lekin phir bhi hamare leaders west ke sath weapons, engines deals karte hai. Aisa es liye karte hai kyonki hamare leaders Darpok, Corrupt, Mansik Gulam hai west ke. Mansik Gulami ke karn yeh leaders Mand-budhi vale ho gaye hai. west ke agay jukne ke karn enke decisions Maha-murakho jaise hote hai

大家都知道法国、英国、美国这些强国都是骗子、不可靠的，但我们的领导人还是和西方做武器、发动机的交易，这是因为我们的领导人胆小、腐败、思想上是西方的奴隶，因为这种精神奴役，他们成了没有主见的人，在西方面前低头，所以他们的决定也非常愚蠢

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@LearnManish-n3w
DRDO always work for our national defence with most accurately and at low cost, we must accept and respect our DRDO words.

DRDO一直以极高的精准度和低成本为我们的国防努力，我们必须接受并尊重DRDO的发言


@su0078
Always Remember Kurulakar who sent Agni Project details to Pakistani ISI. 
DRDO has some enemies inside it. They must be cured.

永远记住那个把烈火工程资料泄露给巴基斯坦情报机构ISI的Kurulakar，印度国防研究与发展组织内部存在一些敌人，必须清除这些内奸


@SandeepKumar-rw1jp
He is right about France

关于法国，他说得对


@lovehindustan710
Not only DRDO i am also against this deal.. our past experiance with safron is not too good.

不仅仅是DRDO反对这项交易，我自己也反对，我们过去与赛峰的合作经验并不好


@jaspreetsingh-xg7if
Pta bhi hai ke Lo0tera france, Lo0tera britain,Lo0tera america Dhokebaj,Unreliable hai lekin phir bhi hamare leaders west ke sath weapons, engines deals karte hai. Aisa es liye karte hai kyonki hamare leaders Darpok, Corrupt, Mansik Gulam hai west ke. Mansik Gulami ke karn yeh leaders Mand-budhi vale ho gaye hai. west ke agay jukne ke karn enke decisions Maha-murakho jaise hote hai

大家都知道法国、英国、美国是掠夺者，是骗子，不可靠，可我们的领导人还是和西方国家做武器、发动机的交易，这是因为我们的领导人胆小、腐败，是西方的精神奴隶，由于这种精神奴役，这些领导人成了头脑愚钝的人，向西方低头，使得他们的决策像极了大傻瓜


@AK-qg3sn
This time I support DRDO not because I believe DRDO but I have no faith on France as far as technical know how is concerned.

这次我支持DRDO，不是因为我相信DRDO而是因为在技术方面我对法国完全没有信心


@ShyamSunder-md4pf
They are all same don't forget harrier fighter jet  purchase from Uk  what happened in kargil

它们都一样，别忘了从英国购买的海鹞战斗机，以及卡吉尔战争中发生的事情


@rangeetrajmitra4128
40 Mirage 2000 was purchased from France initially. The first batch was delivered in 80s and second batch in 90s. Further India also purchased additional 10 Mirage 2000s in 2004 from France.

最初印度从法国购买了40架幻影2000战斗机，第一批在80年代交付，第二批在90年代交付，此外印度在2004年又从法国追加购买了10架幻影2000


@AdityaKadamMechanical
If France does not deliver as promised, there will be set procedure in payments that will reduce.

如果法国未能按承诺交付，付款将会按照约定减少


@vickitino007
India should have a deal with Japan...
They have readymade engines with transfer technology...
We would get all the technology....

印度应该和日本达成协议，他们有现成的发动机而且可以转让技术，这样我们就能获得所有的技术

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@RohitSahni-c9y
Preparation of wastage of another 10 yrs. by the government, defence ministry is totally anti India,we have got the test bed when government has already scrapped the kaveri project ,till date we don't have a flying test bed,planners of defence ministry are working for foreign governments.

政府又要浪费十年，国防部完全是在反印度，明明我们已经有了测试平台，但政府却已经取消了卡弗里项目，到现在我们连一个飞行测试平台都没有，国防部的决策者根本是为外国政府服务


@BSingh-bv6pw
Tech Transfer is a myth. India needs to pump sufficient funding in indigenous R&D. No foreign country would want to share critical tech of 'Thermal Resistance Core' of Afterburner section of Aero Engine.

技术转让其实是个神话，印度需要为本土研发投入足够的资金，没有哪个外国愿意分享航空发动机加力燃烧室“热阻核心”这样的关键技术


@Heman-kz6xr
Hear this out - It's GOI fault why don't they add clause in the deal like pen@lsing them for not giving even after promising?

听我说——这都是印度政府的错，他们为什么不在协议里加一条，比如说如果对方承诺了却没给就处罚对方


@RaviSingh-jt7ge
Humari Defence Minister jo is deal ko sign krna chahti he ye sab jante hue ki France promise kiye hue deal ko poora nhi krta fir bhi defence Ministry ye deal kr rhi he wo 100% wha ke logo ko mota commission mil rha hoga inko desh se koi matlab nhi he

我们的国防部长明知道法国没有履行承诺的协议还是想签这份协议，国防部门还在推进，很可能他们全都拿了法国巨额回扣，这些人根本不在乎国家。


@RitikSahu-ui6rg
Whatever drdo says government prioritize its own benifit shhhhhhh(Bjp party Benifit).

无论DRDO怎么说，政府都会优先考虑自身利益，都是为了BJP党的好处


@MukeshPatel-k2y
Drdo ne sahi kha France trusted partner nhi hai, gov ko fir se sochna chahiye

DRDO说得对，法国并不是值得信赖的合作伙伴，政府应该重新考虑这个问题


@Minato.Namikaze559
France is no Russia. France is a joke. Even those Dassault Raffel ain't as good as modern Russian Jets.

法国根本比不上俄罗斯，法国就是个笑话，就连达索“阵风”战斗机也远不如现代俄罗斯战机


@Charizard-xyz1
France engine life :- 8000 hrs
Russia engine life :- 2000 hrs

法国发动机寿命为八千小时而俄罗斯发动机寿命为两千小时


@Minato.Namikaze559
​ @Charizard-xyz1  ya 7500+ hrs life with only 75 kn thrust. Russian jet engines can produce upto 176 kn thrust with a a life span of 4000-6000 hrs with 3d thrust vectoring. Everything as its pros and cons. Frankly 120+ kn plus thrust is the need of the hours and Russian are champions of that.

@Charizard-xyz1 是的，7500多小时寿命但只有75千牛推力，而俄罗斯的喷气发动机可以达到176千牛推力，寿命有4000到6000小时还能实现三维矢量推力，每种设计都有优缺点，坦率来说现在需要的是120千牛以上的推力，俄罗斯在这方面无疑是行家


@user-j7y9wIl
हम भारतीयों को खुद को ऐसा विकसित करना चाहिए कि हमें किसी की सहायता लेने की आवश्यकता ही नहीं पड़े अपने बलबूते पर ही हम सब कुछ करें बल्कि यह गोरे और दुनिया भर के लोग हमसे सहायता लेने की उम्मीद करें और गुहार लगाएंi

我们印度人应该让自己强大到不需要依靠任何人的帮助，所有事情都靠我们自己完成，反而应该让白人和全世界的人期待向我们寻求帮助并请求我们


@dharam1718
If the French have failed to honor  agreements,maybe it is time to move on.  Based on this information, none of the nato countries need to be considered reliable defense partners

如果法国未能履行协议，也许是时候向前看了，根据这些信息，没有哪个北约国家需要被视为可靠的防御伙伴


@user-j7y9wIl
आज से डेढ़ सौ से 200 साल पहले जब यह सब मॉडर्न इंजन और तकनीकें नहीं थी तो उसके बाद में यूरोप के देशों ने भी तो उनको विकसित किया ही अमेरिका ने भी तो विकसित किया ही उस टाइम वह भी गरीब देश ही थे धीरे धीरे विकसित हो रहे थे दुनिया को हालांकि लूट रहे थे इस तरह भारत को भी तो काफी साल हो गए इस पर काम करते हुए खुद विकसित करो अपनी तकनीक उनसे बढ़िया तकनीक की वह हमसे मांगने के लिए हमारे पीछे लाइन में खड़े हो तब आत्मविश्वास बढ़ता है देश के नागरिक का

大约在一百五十到两百年前，当这些现代引擎和技术还不存在的时候，欧洲国家和美国也是从穷国逐渐发展起来的，他们其实也是慢慢变富的，虽然当时在掠夺世界，印度也已经很多年在努力发展了，现在我们应该自力更生，不断提升自己的技术，只有当他们排队向我们求技术的时候，我们国家的公民才会真正有自信


@kv0714
100% करेक्ट

百分之百正确


@lakshmanaka6419
Ask monay from government develop our own engine DRDO can

要求政府拨款让我们DRDO自己研发发动机


@factsbyme3402
Japan is right option

日本是正确的选择


@SodiumSyndicate
Govt wants to give 61000 Crore to foreigners for some Engine that has to be developed from scratch in 10 years, but they don't want to give 20000-30000 crores to 2 or 3 Indian companies to take over the Kaveri program parallely & deliver competing finished engines that is 100% indigenous & with internal competition too.

政府想要花6100亿卢比给外国人开发一种需要用十年从零开始研发的发动机，但却不愿意给两三家印度公司两千到三千亿卢比，让他们并行接手卡弗里计划并交付完全国产且彼此竞争的成品发动机


@Heman-kz6xr
What do you know about kaveri engine?
Let me ask you - do you know for how long this project has been going on?

你了解卡弗里发动机吗？请问你知道这个项目已经进行了多久吗


@Pranav_Tomar
Japan and UK offers are way better

日本和英国的优惠要好很多


@PeterPratimVlogs
If DRDO Is against the deal then why is there a need to sign the deal. ? If  this deals against DRDO then I believe that there will definitely be corruption that will take place.

如果DRDO反对这项协议，那为什么还要签署呢，如果这项协议违背了DRDO的意愿，我认为这其中一定存在腐败


@realfun-u9x
Jab france source code nahi de raha toh full transfer of technology kaise dega

法国连源代码都不给，怎么可能会提供全部技术转让


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@Arrow7X-v7r
France also not that reliable! They would like their customer to be dependent! If Japan has an engine, go with Japan!

法国也不那么可靠，他们希望客户依赖他们，如果日本有发动机就选日本


@srv9067
Rafale deal was over priced and over hyped. Likewisely this engines deal with safran also over priced and over hyped. ( For tejas Mk2 we are getting most stable and reliable GEF414 engine for 100 crores per engine. Whereas now india signed 61000 crores deal now. How many engines are we going to get for this huge amount ??? Instead of this deal India should think about signing TOT and IPR rights deal with Russian izdeliye 177S engine which can be used in SU 30 MKI as well as AMCA OR with GE which can be used in Tejas Mk2 and AMCA mk1 as well. I think India missed a wonderful opportunity.

“阵风战机的采购被严重高价且过度宣传，这次同赛峰的发动机协议同样高价且被过度炒作，像光辉MK2装备的GEF414发动机每台只要一亿卢比，性价比稳定又可靠，现在印度却签下了6100亿卢比的合同，这么大的金额到底能买到多少台发动机呢？与其这样，不如考虑和俄罗斯177S发动机签技术转让和知识产权协议，这种发动机可以用于苏-30MKI和AMCA，或直接与GE签协议，也可以用在光辉MK2和AMCA MK1上，我觉得印度这次错过了一个极好的机会”


@Heman-kz6xr
Bhai Engine Realibility naam ka bhi cheez hota hai
Tumlog haar cheez ko itna aasan kyu sochte ho? Bol diya aur ho gaya?

兄弟，发动机的可靠性也是很重要的，你们为什么把一切都想得那么简单，以为说做就能成吗


@Shubham-o5k2v
Ha bhai bj* france se chanda lekar aankh band karke saare contracts unko de rhi
Desh k bhavisya k saath khilwaad

哈哈兄弟，直接从法国拿黑钱，闭着眼睛把所有合同都给了他们对国家的未来太不负责任了


@Yashvardhanvashisht
WHY NOT GOING WITH JAPAN.....WHY......JAPAN IS TOP IN EVERYTHING RELIABILITY,  TECHNOLOGY, LONGEVITY OF THINGS, QUALITY OF THINGS,   FRIENDLINESS, EVERYTHING.

为什么不选择日本呢，日本在所有方面都是顶尖的，无论是可靠性、技术、耐用性、品质还是友好程度，各方面都遥遥领先


@Heman-kz6xr
Not in defense tech not atleast in terms of Jet engine

（日本）在国防技术方面，至少在喷气发动机领域并不是这样的


@বিশালবর্মা
Don't ignore the japanese jet engine.

不要忽视日本的喷气发动机


@rkoravikumar
Aisa kyon hai ke Bhartiya Sarkar Japan  ya Rolls Royce ke offer ko darkinar kar ke fir se France ko fir se mauka de rahi hai .....jab ki vo kitni baar Bharat ko dhokha de chuka hai

为什么印度政府不接受日本或劳斯莱斯的提议，而是一次又一次给法国机会，明明法国已经多次欺骗过印度


@amritamgramudyog1091
Very true i stand by drdo you can't trust france as per it's past experience with france

非常正确，我支持印度国防研究与发展组织，考虑到法国以往的经历，法国并不值得信任