得州AI数据中心成吞水巨兽，居民却被要求缩短淋浴时间

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brickyardjimmy 
Texas is free!
得克萨斯自由了！​

Mach5Driver 
Texas lawmakers are already taking action by having the 10 Commandments posted in every classroom. It's the only real solution. 
得州立法者已经在行动了，他们要求每个教室都张贴《十诫》（注：基督教核心戒律），这才是真正的解决方案。

Squeakygear 
Exactly, more supply side Jesus for the children!
没错，给孩子们多来点"富豪福音耶稣"！
注：“Supply Side Jesus”是一个美国政治讽刺漫画梗，里面一个形象是“减税救世主”，他并不去喂饱饥饿者，而是把面包和鱼先分给富人，让“财富滴漏”到穷人，讽刺得州《十诫》法案是假借道德之名，行服务权贵之实。

Alternative-Lack6025
Reminder that Texas revolted against Mexico to keep black people as slaves then revolt against USA for the same reason.
And that's not even dwelling in all the civil rights movement era.
Why are anyone surprised when they behave abhorrently?


提醒一下，得克萨斯当年脱离墨西哥是为了保留黑人奴隶制，后来脱离美国也是出于同样的原因。这还没算上民权运动时期的种种劣迹。所以现在他们干出啥缺德事都不奇怪。

cancerBronzeV 
Oklahoma's panhandle exists because Texas needed to give it up to keep slavery.
俄克拉荷马州的狭长地带怎么来的，就是因为得克萨斯州需要放弃它以保留奴隶制。
译者注：指1850年《妥协案》，当时得州将北部土地（今俄克拉荷马狭长地带）割让给联邦政府，条件包括不干预得州的奴隶制。

Dikkelul27
Don't worry they're making sure that the racist gerrymandering goes on today aswell
安了，这帮人现在还在玩“按肤色划选区”的老把戏呢！

CantBeConcise
Quick question, where are you from? I wanna see what's happened there over the last 150 years and judge you just on the bad things. Go on, which state/country?
简单问一句，敢报户口吗？让我查查你老家150年的黑历史，咱们就盯着烂事来评呗，来啊，报个地名？

windowtosh 
Kinda hard to be worse than “got into two wars to keep black people as literal slaves” tbh 
说实话，很难找到比"发动两场战争就为了把黑人当奴隶"更恶劣的事了吧。

CantBeConcise
Lol no it's not. Not even in the slightest.
I mean, if you had a shit education about world history then yeah, I imagine that could be the worst thing you can think of. But guess what, your ignorance of history doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Go on. You have the whole of the internet to look through. See if you can find something worse than that. Shouldn't take very long.
笑死，可拉倒吧！连（更恶劣的）边儿都沾不上。
说白了，你要是没好好学过世界历史，那确实可能觉得这算顶天了。但问题是，你没听说过≠没发生过好吧？
来，上网随便搜，找到比蓄奴战争更缺德的事儿并不难。

Val_Hallen 
Every day I wish just once their little temper tantrum of breaking from the US would come true. 
Watch them realize real fucking quick how they are a failed state and can only boast about "their achievements" with the full force of the US backing their sad, Christofascist state. 
They have no economy without the dollar. They have no exports or trade without the US. They have nothing. States only succeed when working together. And for Red States, only because Blue States prop them up. And even then, they are abject failures anyway. 
每天我都希望，他们那闹着要脱离美国的小脾气能成真一次。
看看他们怎么光速意识到自己就是个失败政权，只能靠着美国的全力支持，才能吹嘘他们那些所谓“成就”，支撑他们那可悲的基督教法西斯政权。
没美元，经济直接崩盘，没美国，外贸全完蛋，他们啥也不是，各州只有团结合作，国家才能成功。而对红州（共和党州）来说，他们能存在仅仅是因为蓝州（民主党州）在养着他们。即便如此，他们还是彻头彻尾的废物。

gamwizrd1 
463 million gallons of water over two years. 
Over that same time, 31.29 million residents of Texas used about 388.3 billion gallons of water showering. Or in other words, enough water for the data centers to run for 1,677.4 years. 
I'm not making any value judgement one way or the other for AI water use, I'm just providing mathematical context for the conversation. 
两年用了4.63亿加仑水。
但同期得州3129万老百姓光洗澡就用了3883亿加仑！换算下来，居民洗澡水够AI数据中心用1677年！
声明：不是给AI洗地，纯提供数据。

brickyardjimmy 
Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter Top 1% Commenter It's not just the water. It's the power they use as well. I'm all for shorter showers regardless but at some point we have to decide if life is for people or not. And, by the way, I don't know why we're not using those billions of shower waste water to cool the data centers. It's not like they need fresh water for it.
不只是水的问题，还有电力消耗。
我是支持大家减少洗澡时间的，但我们总得想想，生活到底是为了什么。
为什么不把那些洗澡的废水用来给数据中心降温呢？反正也不一定非得用干净水嘛。

gamwizrd1
Sure, there's plenty of context to add to both situations. Water, power, and land consumption for data centers, balanced against benefit to society. Showers, lawn maintenance, water parks, many many things to consider for direct human consumption of water. I'm not informed enough on either issue to make a value judgement, although I will say just based on the magnitude of scale of difference between shower water use and data center water use, I would guess that the two subjects are unrelated to each other. Mainly, I wanted to provide context for a highly sensationalized article title. It's entirely possible that the intent of the article - to lobby for reduction of data center use for either the sake of water conservation or some other cause - is valid and good. BUT, the title is sensational.
这事儿当然得多角度看。数据中心耗水耗电占地，与其产生的社会效益需要平衡，但老百姓用水洗澡、浇草坪、玩水上乐园，同样得算账啊。我不好说谁对谁错，但光看用水量级差这么多，就感觉这俩事儿压根不挨边儿。
我是来给这个标题党文章泼冷水的，文章可能初心是好的（比如省水环保），但标题纯属带节奏。

borbor8
Wait, I thought Trump was going to fix the shower thing? We were all going to be blasted by great water pressure? No?
等等，我以为特朗普会解决洗澡水问题？我们不是都能享受到超强水压吗？难道没有？
译者注：特朗普2018年提出“淋浴头新政”，当时他抱怨环保标准导致水压不足，影响了他打理发型，宣称要 “让美国人再次拥有能冲掉皮肤的淋浴”，后因法规复杂性无实质进展，今年4月，重返白宫的特朗普又签署了一项行政令，内容是放宽淋浴头等家用电器的水压限制。而得州则一贯被视为美国的“红州”，即在政治上倾向于支持共和党，讽刺当前的节水政策与特朗普的“淋浴头新政”相矛盾，有“大公司优先”之嫌。

epochwin 
That’s probably in El Salvador
可能在萨尔瓦多才有吧。

hoppertn
No no, that’s the toilets you’re thinking of. He wants a strong, powerful flush so no document shreds are left because he ate them.
错啦，人家要的是马桶冲力够猛，好冲走他嚼碎咽下去的文件残渣。

meistermichi 
He's gonna do that right after fixing the egg prices and ending the war in Ukraine.
他会在搞定鸡蛋价格和结束乌克兰战争之后，马上处理这事儿的。

Sweatytubesock 
He’s going to build the Great Faucet. And Canada is going to pay for it. 
他要建“伟大水龙头”，而且加拿大得为这买单。


WalrusSpecialist706 
Everybody will have pressure they want but nobody mentioned everybody gets water. 
每个人都能得到想要的水压，但没提到每个人都能得到水。

MaNewt
Stop pricing water for industrial uses the same as water subsidized for drinking 
Just tax it. It would be such a popular bill. The ads write themselves. 
Only by increasing the price, it might make sense for these data centers to invest in reusing some of the water for cooling rather than just evaporating it away.
别再让工业用水的价格和享受补贴的饮用水一样了，直接征税吧，这法案绝对受欢迎，广告都不用怎么做。
只有提高价格，数据中心才可能想办法回收一部分水用来冷却，而不是直接让水蒸发掉。

ommonemitter 
You might have missed the point they dont want to tax businesses
你可能没搞懂，他们根本不想对企业征税。


dogfaced_pony_soulja 
Especially in Texas. Greg Abbott would never stand for that. 
尤其在得克萨斯州，格雷格·阿博特（州长）不会允许这样的事发生。


Fclssvd
I think you’re unaware the only reason these businesses are in Texas is for the exact reason that they can do this. If laws were passed the businesses would relocate to a different state。
我觉得你可能没意识到，这些公司扎堆得州图的就是这儿随便造，真要立法管，信不信他们立马卷铺盖跑路。

MaNewt 
Then they pay a lot to relocate, and we fight in the next state. If a company had zero moving costs, sure, but the fact that California still has so many data centers and company headquarters despite high taxes shows that you can tax the golden goose a little. Just a small surcharge per acre ft of water for industrial could change the math to where they’ll probably invest in more water efficient cooling systems instead of not bothering because it will never pay for itself. But not enough where moving makes sense.
那他们就得花大价钱搬迁，而我们会继续在下一个州抗争。
如果企业搬迁零成本，那确实没办法。但事实上，尽管加州税率高，仍然有大量数据中心和企业总部，说明对赚钱的企业适当征税是可行的。
只需对工业用水征收少量附加费，就能改变他们的成本计算，促使他们投资更节水的冷却系统，而不是因为觉得“永远回不了本”就懒得改，但这个税费又不会高到让他们觉得搬迁更划算的地步。

ToMorrowsEnd 
This. Republicans like to make it sound like a company will just abandon a multi billion dollar facility and pay 100 million to move just to spite a politician. 
Just like "the rich will leave the country if we tax them" no they wont. 
正是如此，共和党人总喜欢用那套“企业一不爽就卷铺盖跑路”的话术，真当资本家会轻易不要几十亿盖的厂子，再倒贴几个亿搬家，就为了跟政客赌气？
就像他们说“如果对富人征税，富人就会离开这个国家”一样，不，他们不会。