《超人》在中国预计最终总票房为1000万美元。被人看好结果却在中国票房失败，引起外国网友热议

AGOTFAN
likes: 189
Comparison:
Thunderbolts* grossed $16 million
Captain America Brave New World grossed $14 million
 
对比：
《雷霆特工队*》总票房1600万美元
《美国队长：美丽新世界》总票房1400万美元
 
No_Public_7677
likes: 53
Damn
 
我去。
 
Puzzleheaded_Book697
likes: 78
Damn this movie is going to flatline internationally, it’s going to need crazy domestic legs like 400 M to have a chance. Crazy how people were saying this would be a billion dollar film and it can’t even do Man of steel numbers, that movie made 63 million in China over 10 years ago
 
我去，这部电影的海外票房要完蛋了，它得靠本土市场爆发出4亿美元那样的超强后劲才有可能回本。真是疯狂，之前还有人说这会是部十亿美元的电影，结果它连《超人：钢铁之躯》的水平都达不到，那部电影可是十多年前就在中国拿下了6300万美元的票房啊。
 
orange_falcon
likes: 94
China is a whole different ball game today. Chinese movie consumption habits have changed massively over the past 10 years. 10 years ago, their local industry was nowhere near Hollywood in terms of tech output. That has changed now. They actively pursue local cinema and shun Hollywood. Also add anti American sentiment to the mix.
That said, other Asian markets have also shown a level of apathy to Superman that I did not see coming.
 
如今的中国市场已经完全是另一回事了。过去十年，中国观众的电影消费习惯发生了巨大变化。十年前，他们的本土电影产业在技术水平上还远不及好莱坞。但现在情况变了，他们积极追捧国产电影，对好莱坞电影则敬而远之。再加上反美情绪的因素。
话虽如此，其他亚洲市场对《超人》也表现出一种我始料未及的冷漠。
 
fastcooljosh
likes: 11
With the exception of Avatar 3 which will most likely do 200+ million first week later this year.
 
《阿凡达3》是个例外，它今年晚些时候上映时，首周票房很可能会超过2亿美元。
 
GarlVinland4Astrea
likes: 10
China is not the same as it was for films back in 2013. Aside from a sext few films, they've generally been rejecting big Hollywood blockbusters for their own homegrown products. The early 2010's were a nice entrance for major big budget films in that market, but now they want to make their own money and their people are showing more interest in on the whole supporting their own national products.
 
现在的中国电影市场和2013年时已经不一样了。除少数几部电影外，他们基本上都在排斥好莱坞大片，转而支持自己的本土作品。2010年代初，好莱坞大制作电影在中国市场有过一段不错的时光，但现在他们想赚自己的钱，他们的民众也整体上更愿意支持国产作品。
 
alcatraz1286
likes: 0
because it's not a good film and james gunn is not a good filmmaker
 
因为它不是一部好电影，詹姆斯·古恩也不是一个好导演。
 
GarlVinland4Astrea
likes: -6
Reviews and audience reception say otherwise.
 
影评和观众口碑可不是这么说的。
 
Iagp
likes: 20
American Reviews and American audiences. They don't mattet crap for the rest of the world
 
美国影评和美国观众罢了。对世界其他地方来说，他们说的屁都不算。
 
GarlVinland4Astrea
likes: -8
It doesn't have bad reviews in the rest of the world. Idk why we are pretending that quality is indicative of boxoffice. Interest is indicative of box office. It's clear there is an interest difference domestically vs internationally.
 
它在世界其他地方也没有差评啊。我不知道为什么我们要假装电影质量能决定票房。观影兴趣才能决定票房。很明显，这部电影在美国国内和海外的受欢迎程度存在差异。
 
Iagp
likes: 16
It doesn't? Just in Europe we have 44 countries, do you know if the reviews are not bad in all of them?
 
没有？光是欧洲就有44个国家，你确定所有国家的评价都不差吗？
 
GarlVinland4Astrea
likes: 1
Okay then show that it on the whole has bad reviews in other countries.
 
行啊，那你倒是拿出证据，证明它在其他国家收到的普遍是差评。
 
Fickle_Load2129
likes: 2
You can easily look up the reviews for different countries its not hard to do. Superman is liked by people who've seen it at least in Western Europe which is by far the most important European market anyway. There just wasn't any buzz around the movie in Europe Idk why probably a bad marketing strategy.
 
想查不同国家的影评很容易，根本不难。至少在西欧（欧洲最重要的市场），看过《超人》的人都挺喜欢的。不知道为什么，这部电影在欧洲就是没什么热度，可能是营销策略太差了吧。
 
LazyBuoyyyy
likes: 8
While he is wrong, audience reception isn’t great in China. On their IMDB, it is barely touching 7. Much less than competition F1 and Rebirth. The reception isn’t strong everywhere.
 
虽然他说的不对，但这部电影在中国的观众口碑确实不怎么样。在他们的“IMDB”（指豆瓣）上，评分勉强到7分，远低于同期的《F1》和《重生》。观众反响并非在所有地方都很好。
 
Both-Manufacturer419
likes: 4
In China most people think Superman is too weak, most people prefer Superman Man of Steel because Henry Calvi is cool
 
在中国，大多数人觉得这个超人太弱了，大家更喜欢《超人：钢铁之躯》，因为亨利·卡维尔很酷。
 
LackingStory
likes: 10
For comparison: The Batman made 24M, but Guardians3 opened with 27M and made 86M total in China.
 
拿来对比一下：《新蝙蝠侠》在中国票房是2400万美元，但《银河护卫队3》开画就有2700万美元，最终总票房8600万美元。
 
CanadianGroose
likes: 2
A lot has changed in 3 years. Hollywood needs to adjust their expectations when it comes to the Chinese market.
 
三年间变化太大了。好莱坞需要调整他们对中国市场的预期了。
 
eBICgamer2010
likes: 147
10M final projected gross would be 6 million less than Thunderbolts:
 
最终预测总票房1000万美元，这可比《雷霆特工队》还少600万呢：
 
bluequarz
likes: 74
Superman is a top 3 DC character, Thunderbolts is a team up of side and tv characters. A DC movie full of characters the rank of Thunderbolts would have prob done almost 200m less than Thunderbolts at the box office .
Also Superman's marketing was 100m more than Thunderbolts reportedly.  (100m vs 200m) . If Superman fails to cross 600m then it won't cover both its production budget and its marketing through theatrical grosses no matter what WB is putting out to the press to save face.
 
超人是DC排名前三的角色，《雷霆特工队》则是一群配角和电视剧角色的组合。一部由《雷霆特工队》这种级别角色组成的DC电影，票房可能要比《雷霆特工队》本片还低近2亿美元。
而且，据报道《超人》的营销费用比《雷霆特工队》高了1亿美元（2亿对1亿）。如果《超人》全球票房过不了6亿美元，那么无论华纳为了面子向媒体放出什么消息，它都无法通过院线收入覆盖制作和营销两项成本。
 
SirFireHydrant
likes: 72
Superman's best case scenario is being barely profitable. Not something I'd be keen to boast about.
 
《超人》最好的情况也就是勉强盈利。这可不是什么值得我拿出来吹嘘的事。
 
PaperGod101
likes: 35
All this smack talk only for Superman to make less than Ant-Man 2.
 
吹了半天，结果《超人》票房还不如《蚁人2》。
 
darthyogi
likes: 15
“It’s Clobberin Time” (Superman is being clobbered) by Jurrasic World and F4)
 
“是时候大干一场了！”（然后超人被《侏罗纪世界》和《神奇四侠》暴揍）
 
PaperGod101
likes: 2
And F1
 
还有《F1》。
 
Takemyfishplease
likes: 39
Yes, when rebooting a failed universe with one of the most hyped directors/leaders of the genre ‘barely profitable’ will sure show them.
 
是啊，用一位业内最受热捧的导演/领袖来重启一个失败的宇宙，结果只是“勉强盈利”，这可真能“给他们点颜色看看”呢。
 
Backhandslap88
likes: 48
Gloating about MAYBE being BARELY profitable lol.
 
居然在为“可能”“勉强”盈利而沾沾自喜，笑死。
 
Fire_Otter
likes: 32
How is Superman going to be profitable? they went above and beyond on marketing
The 2.5x rule of thumb is no good for this film
$225 million budget
$200 million marketing
The movie is looking to finish below $600 million. The math ain’t mathing.
 
《超人》怎么可能盈利？他们在营销上可是下了血本。
2.5倍票房回本的经验法则对这部电影不适用。
预算2.25亿美元
营销2亿美元
电影最终票房看起来会低于6亿美元。这笔账怎么算都算不平。
 
Fun-Maintenance1217
likes: 67
The rollercoaster of following this subs' predictions, results and opinions on Supermans BO has been more entertaining than any film at all this year
 
关注这个论坛里关于《超人》票房的各种预测、结果和观点，这过程简直像坐过山车，比今年任何一部电影都有意思。
 
ILoveRegenHealth
likes: 38
Last time I felt this rollercoaster was Dial of Destiny. We all thought "No way it goes under $600M. $650M is the floor, right? Right? This is Indiana Jones after all."
Then it goes on to do $387M and not even touch $400M lol
 
上一次我有这种坐过山车的感觉还是《夺宝奇兵：命运转盘》。我们当时都觉得“票房不可能低于6亿吧。6.5亿是底线，对吧？对吧？这毕竟是印第安纳·琼斯啊。”
结果它最后只拿了3.87亿美元，连4亿的边都没摸到，笑死。
 
based_mafty
likes: 18
The marvels was even funnier. Everyone is predicting 600M as the floor. No way a sequel to billion dollar movie gonna bomb that bad.
Barely pass 200m. Nobody even the hater predict is gonna bomb that bad.
 
《惊奇队长2》那次更有趣。所有人都预测6亿美元是票房底线。一部十亿票房电影的续集不可能扑得那么惨吧。
结果勉强过了2亿。连黑子都没想到会扑得那么惨。
 
NobodyTellPoeDameron
likes: 2
The China Box Office numbers that were promised!
 
预言中的中国票房数字来了！
 
PhotographGrand5730
likes: 108
I am waiting for luiz in twitter to frx this outcome as success
 
我正等着推特上的Luiz把这个结果包装成一次成功呢。
 
AGOTFAN
likes: 43
He absolutely will.
 
他绝对会这么干的。
 
Lincolnruin
likes: 39
This is too bad even for him.
 
这票房也太差了，连他都洗不动了。
 
nnooaa_lev
likes: 10
I can't with this guy. He's so biased
Like I don't get cause we'll see the true numbers at the end of Superman run anyway
 
我真受不了这家伙了，他的偏见太重了。
我就不明白了，反正等《超人》下映后我们总会看到真实的数字，他现在这么做有什么意义。
 
ZookeepergameOdd6209
likes: 27
Is he on WB payroll? If not that's sad lol.
 
他是华纳发薪水的员工吗？如果不是，那可太可悲了，笑死。
 
Khalsleezy
likes: 42
It's honestly not just WB. I think people were saying he lied about Cap 4's tracking in China. I think he's just an overly enthusiastic fanboy. But when tracking the Boxoffice, that should be left at the door and facts should be the only thing to go by.
 
老实说，他不止是华纳的吹鼓手。我记得有人说他对《美国队长4》在中国的票房追踪数据也撒了谎。我觉得他就是一个过于狂热的粉丝。但做票房追踪分析，就应该把粉丝心态放一边，只依据事实说话。
 
VikusVidz
likes: 86
Heatwave in China atm.....
Seriously tho, they gonna have study sessions of this film and release when it comes to gaslighting whole populations on why this film didn't do well.
 
“中国现在正经历热浪……”
不过说真的，他们将来肯定会把这部电影当成研究案例，学习当电影票房不佳时，如何颠倒黑白，给全体民众洗脑找借口。
 
ILoveRegenHealth
likes: 63
lMao, is heatwave going to be the new Keaton walk-ups
 
笑死，“热浪”是要成为下一个“基顿幽灵场”吗？（译注：“基顿幽灵场”是《莫比亚斯》票房惨败时的梗，调侃电影靠不存在的观众救场。）
 
paul__k
likes: 17
Seems like the entire world except for the US is currently experiencing a heatwave. Except, it's been raining here all weekend, and neither the Saturday nor Sunday evening showings of the film sold out.
 
看来除了美国，全世界都在经历热浪。然而，我这里整个周末都在下雨，结果周六和周日晚上的场次都没卖完。
 
cummradenut
likes: 29
Maybe China has a tariff on Superman movies.
 
也许中国对超人电影征收了特别关税。
 
Harbournessrage
likes: 10
Gaslighting has already started.
 
洗脑已经开始了。
 
LightningZERO
likes: 11
Lol I noticed the heatwave explanation in many international threads. I hope it catches on as the next meme.
 
哈哈，我注意到在很多国际讨论串里都有“热浪”这个解释。希望它能成为下一个流行梗。
 
igloofu
likes: 7
Yet it was beat by F1 and JW.
 
然而它还是被《F1》和《侏罗纪世界》打败了。
 
SirFireHydrant
likes: 13
Wasn't the projection for lifetime gross $14m as recently as yesterday? What happened?
 
就在昨天，最终总票房的预测不还是1400万美元吗？发生什么了？
 
Local_Diet_7813
likes: 35
Crashes and burned
 
崩盘了。
 
Firefox72
likes: 9
Maoyan and Tao have not upxed their official projections yet as its only 7:30PM.
Projections usualy get upxed after 10PM when the day is closer to the end.
For now its still $11-15M at least officialy. We'l see how that changes later today.
 
现在才晚上7点半，猫眼和淘票票还没更新他们的官方预测。
预测通常要等到晚上10点后，当天快结束时才会更新。
目前官方的预测至少还是1100-1500万美元。我们看看今天晚些时候会有什么变化。
 
cummradenut
likes: 18
Tbh the White House tweeting out an image of the Superman poster with Trump’s face probably caused the international market to say “fuck this movie” lMao
Superman already doesn’t play great outside of the US but that picture went viral and there’s lots of anti-American sentiment at the moment, especially in China and the EU.
 
老实说，白宫发了那张把超人海报P成特朗普脸的推文，可能直接导致国际市场大骂“去他妈的这电影吧”，笑死。
超人这个角色在美国以外本来就不太吃香，结果那张图还病毒式传播，加上现在到处都是反美情绪，尤其是在中国和欧盟。
 
LackingStory
likes: 4
That would be funny, but is there any evidence this is what happened?
 
这说法挺有意思，但有证据表明是这样吗？
 
Posavec235
likes: 3
Ironic since the MAGA claimed for months that Superman will be an anti-Trump movie, and international audience will now associate Superman with Trump thanks to the White House tweet.
 
真讽刺，MAGA几个月来一直声称《超人》会是一部反特朗普的电影，结果现在因为白宫那条推文，国际观众反而会把超人和特朗普联系在一起了。
 
Jolly_Carpenter_6548
likes: 24
Honestly considering china loves monsters and action , I think they just don't like the concept of American superman
 
老实说，考虑到中国观众喜欢怪兽和动作片，我觉得他们就是不喜欢“美国超人”这个概念。
 
StratifiedBuffalo
likes: 43
There is a heatwave in all cinemas showing Superman atm (not Jurassic tho) /s
 
目前所有放映《超人》的电影院都遇到了热浪（但放《侏罗纪》的就没事）/s
 
paradox1920
likes: 6
I don’t know… they like Captain America? It’s even on the name. Superman to me though is more anti that and trying to represent the more decent part of people in general in the world rather than being particularly from one nation. Although given current circumstances with the government in USA, I could see how an icon character like that might not bode well for some overseas right now even though I believe the new movie still maintains what I said before. In any case, right now I can only hope for a solid win for Supes overall and then see what happens after all is said and done with this movie. I still think this film is the start of a reboot and building up from here. Many factors to consider when it comes to the performance of this if you ask me.
 
我不好说……他们不是喜欢美国队长吗？名字里都带着“美国”呢。不过对我来说，超人更像是反对国家主义的，他试图代表的是全世界人民更正直的那一面，而不是特别来自某个国家。当然，鉴于美国政府目前的状况，我能理解这样一个标志性人物可能在海外不太讨喜，尽管我相信新电影仍然保持了我之前说的内核。无论如何，现在我只希望超人总体上能取得一个稳固的胜利，然后再看这部电影尘埃落定后会怎样。我仍然认为这部电影是重启的开始，是未来发展的基石。要我说，影响这部电影表现的因素太多了。
 
SoapyDoodle
likes: 7
It’s no longer aspirational to be an American, I don’t understand why anyone is surprised by this.
 
“成为一个美国人”这件事已经不再令人向往了，我不明白为什么还会有人对此感到惊讶。
 
Material_Magazine989
likes: 10
It's a movie about a country invading another country and third parties interfering. The appeal wasn't there.
 
这是一部关于一个国家入侵另一个国家，然后第三方势力介入的电影。吸引力不足。
 
MaintenanceFar4207
likes: 11
Man this is not getting to 700M due to the modest to average BO internationally.
 
兄弟，由于海外票房表现平平，这片子到不了7亿美元了。
 
Local_Diet_7813
likes: 32
600 is lucky!
You will need 350 dom and 250 international for that
And 350 dom isn’t locked
 
能有6亿都算幸运了！
要达到6亿，你需要3.5亿北美票房和2.5亿海外票房。
但现在3.5亿的北美票房也根本没谱。
 
kingofstormandfire
likes: 8
It might not even make 600M depending on the OS drop next week.
 
看下周海外市场的跌幅，这电影甚至可能连6亿美元都到不了。
 
LazyBuoyyyy
likes: 5
How is a tentpole superhero blockbuster (which is actually good) is making the same money as random Indian movie in China ? What is happening?
 
一部（其实还不错的）台柱级超级英雄大片，怎么在中国赚的钱和随便一部印度电影差不多？这到底是怎么了？
 
jacktuar
likes: 1
Superman is tentpole in America but it's no longer as big a  thing anywhere else.
 
超人在美国是台柱子，但在其他地方早就不算什么大IP了。
 
Julio-C-Castro
likes: 15
As someone who’s excited to see this film, I share the same sentiment others do about why this film isn’t doing as well as it could. Superman is predominantly a very American symbol. Right now, America isn’t trying to be friendly with China with all the trade wars conversation. Could it be a contributing factor? Maybe it is for some. I wish Superman a nice run in the box office but realistically, it’s not looking great internationally.
 
作为一个很期待看这部电影的人，我同意其他人关于电影票房不佳原因的看法。超人主要是一个非常美国的象征。而眼下，伴随着贸易战的论调，美国并没有在努力与中国交好。这会是一个影响因素吗？可能对一些人来说是。我希望《超人》票房能有好成绩，但现实地说，它的国际前景不容乐观。
 
KakkaKarrotKake007
likes: 16
It might be a factor for "some" but I imagine it's on a fairly insignificant level
Maybe more in China but people blaming it underperforming in Europe because of Anti-America sentiment seems like copium, maybe what they showed in trailers just didn't appeal to people? Maybe Superman in general just isn't appealing to outside of America anymore? There's plenty of people who have seen the movie that don't like it's humor or tone or whatever else
Those seem much more likely scenarios tbh
 
这可能对“一些人”来说是个因素，但我认为影响微乎其微。
也许在中国影响大一些，但把欧洲票房不佳归咎于反美情绪，感觉像是在找借口自我安慰。或许是预告片展示的内容没吸引到人？或许是超人这个角色本身在美国以外已经没有吸引力了？还有很多看过电影的人不喜欢它的幽默、基调或者其他方面。
老实说，这些看起来是可能性大得多的原因。
 
Julio-C-Castro
likes: -2
You could be right that it just doesn’t “click” with the international audience due to its humor. But as I said, in relation to China, the current political climate between the US and China could be one reason it’s also not making waves in China. I’ve said it before on other subs about how I want the big three(JW, Superman, F4) this summer to do well but I do hold it true to all movies as well. Movies do well, we all win. There’s something for everybody and I look very much for to it all!
 
你可能是对的，因为幽默感的问题，它就是没能和国际观众产生共鸣。但就像我说的，就中国而言，当前中美之间的政治气候也可能是它在中国没能掀起波澜的原因之一。我之前在其他论坛也说过，我希望今年夏天的三巨头（《侏罗纪世界》、《超人》、《神奇四侠》）都能有好成绩，而且我对所有电影都抱有这种期望。电影表现好，我们大家都是赢家。总有适合每个人的东西，我非常期待这一切！
 
theghostofmanila
likes: 14
Most probably. And if you like Gunn's style and approach it with the mindset of a 12-year-old, you’ll probably enjoy it. But if you’re more of a moviegoer who appreciates coherent storytelling, manage your expectations.
 
很可能。如果你喜欢詹姆斯·古恩的风格，并用一个12岁孩子的心态去看，你大概会喜欢它。但如果你是那种更欣赏连贯叙事的影迷，那最好还是管理一下你的期望。
 
sharkflood
likes: -7
Gunn is one of the best directors alive and this film is better than any of the Snyder hero films
I think geopolitics is way more important here than a lot of you guys wanna admit
 
古恩是在世最优秀的导演之一，这部电影比任何一部施耐德的英雄电影都好。
我认为地缘政治在这里的重要性远比你们很多人愿意承认的要大。
 
theghostofmanila
likes: 4
Calling Gunn “one of the best directors alive” is blind praise, not fact. And bringing up Snyder when no one even mentioned him, like he’s living rent free in your head, is... something.
He’s good, sure. I liked the GotG trilogy. But that doesn’t automatically mean Superman works for everyone, especially outside the US. Geopolitics always plays a role in international box office, that’s true. But if you think global audiences are skipping the film just because of trade wars and not because of the overly American tone, weak rollout, poorly written scxt, or maybe even loyalty to earlier Superman versions (since you seem to want Snyder included in everything), then that’s a reach.
Sometimes a movie just doesn’t land the way the studio hoped. That’s not geopolitics. That’s market response.
 
称古恩为“在世最优秀的导演之一”是盲目吹捧，不是事实。而且在没人提施耐德的时候把他扯进来，就好像他一直在你脑子里挥之不去似的……真有意思。
他是不错，当然。我喜欢《银河护卫队》三部曲。但这不代表《超人》就适合所有人，尤其是在美国以外。地缘政治确实总在国际票房中扮演角色。但如果你认为全球观众不看这部电影只是因为贸易战，而不是因为那过于“美国”的调性、糟糕的宣发、写得差的剧本，或者甚至是（既然你好像什么都想扯上施耐德）对早期超人版本的忠诚，那就太牵强了。
有时候一部电影就是没能达到片方的预期效果。那不是地缘政治，那是市场反应。
 
_WonderWhy_
likes: 10
Story is not interesting, is why it didn't do well. more than it have anything to do with symbol.
In my country people didn't go see it because they didn't find any of the trailer interesting, In contrast to MoS many years ago, where it was success in my country simply because it show action+alien invasion sci-fi vibe.
 
故事没意思，才是它票房不佳的原因，这比它跟什么象征符号有关更重要。
在我们国家，人们不去看是因为他们觉得预告片毫无吸引力。相比之下，多年前的《超人：钢铁之躯》在我们国家很成功，纯粹因为它展现了动作+外星人入侵的科幻氛围。
 
gorays21
likes: 2
Really curious on how Doomsday does in China.
 
真的很好奇《毁灭日》在中国的表现会如何。
 
TigerGroundbreaking
likes: 4
It will do well
 
它会表现得很好的。
 
ExternalSeat
likes: 2
Superman is heavily American coded (especially this run). At a time where the American brand has been tarnished abroad like it hasn't been since the  Vietnam War (especially in China), it is no wonder that this film is flopping internationally.
Also China is developing its own domestic film industry that is rising in quality and prestige.
 
超人这个角色带有浓重的美国色彩（尤其是这一次）。在一个“美国”这个品牌在海外的声誉自越战以来从未如此受损的时代（尤其是在中国），这部电影在国际上扑街也就不足为奇了。
此外，中国正在发展自己的国产电影产业，质量和声望都在上升。
 
Samhunt909
likes: -1
I hope this is a joke
 
我希望这是个玩笑。
 
ExternalSeat
likes: 1
Nope. Superman very much is deeply associated with "Brand America" and this version very much builds on that allegory.
As such, it is impacted by the USA brand. That does impact its international box office significantly.
 
并不是。超人确实与“美国品牌”紧密相连，而这个版本更是强化了这一寓言。
因此，它受到了美国品牌声誉的影响。这确实极大地影响了它的国际票房。
 
Samhunt909
likes: -1
Yeah there’s America hatred so much Hollywood movies like Jurassic, f1, lilo are performing like crap. This is also rest of the world won’t buyijng any us products right?
 
是啊，对美国的仇恨如此之深，以至于《侏罗纪》、《F1》、《星际宝贝》这些好莱坞电影都表现得像坨屎一样。世界其他地方也肯定不买任何美国产品了，对吧？
 
chengxiufan
likes: 1
you are seriously comparing F1, where happened almost entirely outside of US, JW , a movie about evil american steal in latin america, and Superman, a movie about how american icon saved the world?
 
你居然拿这几部电影来比？《F1》的故事几乎完全发生在美国之外；《侏罗纪世界》讲的是邪恶美国人在拉丁美洲偷东西；而《超人》讲的是一个美国偶像如何拯救世界。这能一样吗？
 
tuepm
likes: 2
The reason this movie isn't doing well internationally is because Superman is, at it's core, American propaganda. Right now the rest of the world isn't in the mood to watch pro-American propaganda. Combine that with the fact that Republicans in the US look at Lex Luther and see themselves and you have the recipe for a really good movie not doing as well as it might have done otherwise.
 
这部电影在国际上表现不佳，是因为《超人》的核心就是美国的宣传工具。而现在，世界其他地方没心情看亲美的宣传。再加上美国的共和党人看着莱克斯·卢瑟就像看到了他们自己，这些因素加起来，就导致了一部本可以非常好的电影，却没有取得它本应有的成绩。
 
darktower41
likes: 2
American loves fast foods
Chinese love healthy foods.
 
美国人爱吃快餐，中国人爱吃健康食品。
 
bluzfan99
likes: 2
I missed the first 10 minutes of the movie because I couldn't find the cinema in time. Perhaps I'll go a 2nd time. Might just inflate the numbers by 0.001%. If Superman is tanking like this, I don't even want to imagine what might happen with Supergirl
 
我因为没及时找到电影院，错过了电影的前10分钟。也许我会去二刷。这样大概能把票房数字提高0.001%吧。如果《超人》都扑成这样，我简直不敢想《女超人》会怎么样。
 
_WonderWhy_
likes: 0
tbh, Supergirl have more change on international market, she doesn't have movie before, and that white Blonde girl lead actress is still famous look outside America.
I think the reason this Superman isn't do well because the story is nothing interesting, take MoS, people love it because it a new approach to Superman story with sci-fi alien invasion action.
 
说实话，女超人在国际市场上的机会可能更大。她之前没有自己的电影，而且那个金发白肤女主角在美国以外也算是讨喜的长相。
我觉得这次的《超人》表现不佳，就是因为故事没意思。拿《钢铁之躯》来说，大家喜欢它，是因为它用科幻外星人入侵的动作片方式，对超人故事做出了新的诠释。
 
trisnikk
likes: 1
yall really think china wants to watch the quintessential movie about america?
 
你们真觉得中国想看一部关于美国的经典样板戏吗？
 
DrewWho30
likes: 1
The fact this is doing less than brave new world is nuts.
 
它票房比《美丽新世界》（指《美国队长4》）还低，这太疯狂了。
 
bossholmes
likes: -2
Tbf it’s a pretty good movie - though the Chinese audience as a whole don’t really care for Hollywood films the same way they did.
 
说句公道话，这电影挺不错的——尽管中国观众整体上已经不像以前那样待见好莱坞电影了。
 
igloofu
likes: 10
Yet, F1 and JW are doing just fine (and even though they have been out for weeks, are higher than Superman atm).
 
然而，《F1》和《侏罗纪世界》表现得就很好（而且尽管它们已经上映几周了，目前的票房仍然比《超人》高）。
 
KhaLe18
likes: 1
While I agree with your point, JW is looking at a 50% or so drop from Dominion. And a Superman movie making more than Jurassic in China was never going to happen
 
虽然我同意你的观点，但《侏罗纪世界》的票房比前作《侏罗纪世界3》跌了大约50%。而且，一部超人电影想在中国超过侏罗纪系列的票房，这本来就是不可能发生的事。
 
hiiloovethis
likes: -52
Not good here. But let wom kick in europe and other part of asia. It is still not over. We still have domestic 350 locked.
 
这里（指中国市场）是不好。但是可以让口碑在欧洲和亚洲其他地区发酵。一切还没结束。我们北美3.5亿的票房还是稳的。
 
Local_Diet_7813
likes: 40
350 is in no way locked. It’s not overperforming the weekend estimates as we speak
 
3.5亿根本就没稳。就目前来看，它的周末票房并没有超出预期。
 
Icy_Smoke_733
likes: 30
Does "locked" mean something else to you? $350 million DOM is definitely *not* guaranteed.
Let's wait for the 2nd week drop. For all you know, it could be front-loaded.
 
“稳了”这个词对你来说是不是有别的意思？3.5亿美元的北美票房绝对*不*是板上钉钉的事。
咱们还是等第二周的跌幅出来再说吧。谁知道呢，它很可能是一部首周票房占比过高的电影。
 
SirFireHydrant
likes: 30
$350m is absolutely not locked domestically.
And there's no chance of WoM kicking in in Europe and Asia. Reception is dead there. It's not gonna bounce back from these numbers.
 
3.5亿北美票房绝对没稳。
而且口碑也不可能在欧洲和亚洲发酵了，那里的反响已经凉透了。票房不可能从现在的数字反弹回来的。
 
Lincolnruin
likes: 27
WoM is awful in Europe.
 
口碑在欧洲糟透了。
 
Backhandslap88
likes: 18
It’s not going to 3X with an A- Cinemascore, and another Superhero movie coming in 2 weeks.
$300M is your target lol.
 
在A-的CinemaScore评分下，而且两周后还有另一部超英电影上映，它的票房是不可能达到首周末票房3倍的。
3亿美元才是你的目标，笑死。
 
Batfleck666
likes: 17
The only thing that's locked is this making less than Man of Steel.
 
唯一“稳”了的，就是它的票房会比《超人：钢铁之躯》低。
 
WolfgangIsHot
likes: 2
Well...
French 1st week of MoS was 1.05 adm.
Superman is projected to make **0.62.**
Joker 2 made 0.60.
Venom 3 made 0.73.
Ouch.
 
这么说吧……
《钢铁之躯》在法国首周观影人次是105万。
《超人》预计是**62万**。
《小丑2》是60万。
《毒液3》是73万。
哎呀呀。