RT：玩家因在《战争雷霆》游戏论坛发布鹞式战机手册遭到封号，这是该游戏第九次泄露受限资料
Gamer banned for posting restricted warplane manual – report
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据报道，《战争雷霆》论坛的此次事件已是该游戏第九次泄露受限资料，这次的受害者是鹞式战斗机。
正文翻译
Gamer banned for posting restricted warplane manual – report
玩家因发布受限战机手册遭封禁——报道
The War Thunder forum incident reportedly marks the ninth leak of restricted material lixed to the game
据报道，《战争雷霆》论坛此次事件已是该游戏第九次泄露受限资料
The developer of the War Thunder military simulation game has banned a player from its online forums for posting a page from a restricted US warplane manual, according to a report by the UK Defence Journal.
据英国《国防杂志》报道，《战争雷霆》军事模拟游戏的开发商因一名玩家在论坛上发布受限的美国战机手册页面而对其进行了封禁。
Developed by Gaijin Entertainment, War Thunder is known for its highly detailed weapon system simulations. The game attracts a passionate community of military enthusiasts, including active and former service members, who frequently scrutinize the accuracy of in-game vehicles compared to their real-world counterparts.
由 Gaijin Entertainment 开发的《战争雷霆》以其高度精细的武器系统模拟而闻名。这款游戏吸引了众多狂热的军事爱好者，包括现役和退役军人，他们经常仔细比对游戏中载具与现实原型的准确性差异。
The UK Defence Journal website reported Monday that this was at least the ninth incident in which a user uploaded sensitive material while attempting to bolster an argument. The latest case involved a page from the Naval Air Training and Operating Procedures Standardization (NATOPS) manual for the AV-8B and TAV-8B Harrier jets, which are used by the US Navy and Marine Corps.
英国《国防期刊》网站周一报道称，这至少是第九起用户为支持论点而上传敏感资料的事件。最新案例涉及美国海军及海军陆战队使用的 AV-8B/TAV-8B 鹞式战机《海军航空训练与操作程序标准化手册》（NATOPS）中的一页内容。
The document was not labeled ‘classified’ but was marked ‘Distribution Statement C’, which means it is restricted to US government agencies and authorized defense contractors. Some forum users argue that posting content that is accessible elsewhere online should be allowed, claiming that governments tend to be too protective of outdated documents that are not actually secret in any meaningful way.
该文件虽未标注"机密"字样，但印有"分发声明 C"标记，意味着仅限美国政府机构及授权国防承包商使用。部分论坛用户辩称，网上其他渠道可获取的内容应当允许发布，并指出政府往往过度保护那些实际上已不具实质保密价值的过时文件。
Gaijin Entertainment however maintains a strict policy prohibiting the publication of any protected material on its platforms. The developer says its models are based exclusively on sources legally available to the general public.
然而，Gaijin Entertainment 始终坚持严格政策，禁止在其平台上发布任何受保护材料。开发商表示其模型仅基于合法向公众开放的资料来源。
Previous similar cases reportedly included leaks involving specifications for tanks such as Britain’s Challenger 2, France’s Leclerc, China’s ZTZ-99, the Eurocopter Tiger helicopter, several US warplanes including the F-16, F-15E, F-117 and most recently, the Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jet.
据报道，此前类似案例包括涉及英国"挑战者 2"、法国"勒克莱尔"、中国"ZTZ-99"等坦克参数，以及"虎式"武装直升机、美国 F-16/F-15E/F-117 等多款战机，最近还涉及欧洲"台风"战斗机的资料泄露。
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Change your profile name, no longer banned.
改个用户名不就不封号了。
Philip
That’s like trying to secretly be friends again with someone who punched you in the face. I stop supporting sites that ban me and block their address from my computer.
这就像试图偷偷和扇过你耳光的人重修旧好。我停止支持封禁我的网站，并会在电脑上屏蔽它们的地址。
Karbonero
And let me guess: the smart guy put his full name and address, right? Right? In all likelihood, former/current military intelligence member.
让我猜猜：这位聪明人填了真实姓名和地址对吧？大概率是前/现军情人员。
Avuncular
Nerds: do weapon systems and computer games
技术宅：既研究武器系统又玩电脑游戏
Also nerds: Sticklers for details
还是技术宅：对细节锱铢必较
Covert
Lol. Accuracy matters
笑死。严谨当然重要
John Miskinis
I am beginning to develop a fondness for that term that I just saw for the first time in this story, which is «not actually secret in any meaningful way». It appears that some folks take the accuracy of their forum posts very seriously.
我越来越喜欢这个故事里首次见到的表述——"实质上根本不构成机密"。看来有些网友对论坛发帖的严谨性确实较真。
Donald W.
It’s true. When the CIA set me up to try and sale cryptographic key cards and had me drugged-up, one of the question leading up to that was where was my ship going. Even though the information was common knowledge, the interrogator try to use it as given away classified information. Which was most likely put in my classified personnel record and used against me without my knowledge during my U.S. Naval career.
确有其事。当年中情局设局诱使我贩卖密码钥匙卡并给我下药时，其中一个前置问题就是询问我的军舰去向。尽管这些信息本是公开情报，审讯者却试图将其作为泄露机密证据。这段经历极可能被写进我的保密人事档案，在我整个美国海军生涯中被暗中用作把柄。
Covert
How did the spooks approach you? Order you into an unmarked van?
情报人员是怎么找上你的？直接命令你上那辆无标识的面包车？
John Campbell
What was your MOS seaman?
你当海军时的专业岗位是什么？
Pops Smith
He said he was in the Navy not the Army, grunt
他说自己是海军不是陆军，菜鸟
Donald W.
Good grief, can’t even play video’s games without U.S. censorship. I am still ban on X from when it was Twitter for pointing out EU and NATO nazism!
天啊，现在连打电子游戏都逃不过美国的审查。我至今仍因在 X 平台（前推特）上指出欧盟和北约的纳粹主义而被封禁！
Howard Fox
All zionist man babies
所有犹太复国主义的巨婴
Ted Christian
I think by the time the nerd patrol puts it online we can safely suppose the Soviets and Chicoms have a copy. At work I once had a copy of an International Space Station document stamped «US ONLY, NO FOREIGN DISTRIBUTION», whatever that meant exactly but I was dubious we were going to keep foreigners from finding out about the International Space Station. The government security freaks might as well wear floppy shoes and big red noses, particularly in the internet age.
等书呆子巡逻队把资料传到网上时，我们大可以假设苏联人和中G仔早就人手一份了。我工作那会儿见过一份标着"仅限美国境内，禁止对外传播"的国际空间站文件——且不论这禁令到底有啥意义，反正我是不信能拦住外国人发现国际空间站的存在。政府那些安保偏执狂还不如直接穿上小丑鞋戴个红鼻子，尤其是在互联网时代。
david flores
I would have to say you’re absolutely right, and with a perfect descxtion 100%
我必须说你完全正确，而且描述得完美无缺 100%
Mi Samsung
HMM Ted the Soviet unx is long gone and no one uses the term ‘Chicoms’ since the 60s.
嗯 泰德 苏联早就解体了 而且 60 年代后就没人用"中G仔"这种词了
Pops Smith
He sure shared his age demographic lol
他确实暴露了自己的年龄段啊 哈哈
Mi Samsung
IDK Pops, I’d say that he showed his nationality and education more than his age demographic. As a child of the 1950s I can not say that I’ve ever referred to the PRC as anything other than China. When I’ve referred to their leadership it was always the Chinese government and not the Chinese communist Party.
说真的老头，我觉得他展现的更多是国籍和教育背景而非年龄特征。作为 1950 年代生人，我从未用"PRC"以外的称谓指代中国。提到领导层时也总是用中国zf而非中国gcd。
Jon Bates
FWIW Most of the foundational components of the ISS were built by Russia
说真的 国际空间站大部分基础组件都是俄罗斯制造的
Jack Inabox
So real world warriors can be keyboard warriors too..
原来现实中的战士也能当键盘侠啊..
Alex Baker
The Harrier isn’t exactly cutting edge anymore. It would be like banning someone for posting a page from an F-104 manual. Apart from that, you can go up to any AV-8B pilot at any air show and he or she will explain everything in that manual to you if you ask.
鹞式战机早已算不上尖端科技了。这就好比因为有人上传了 F-104 战斗机的操作手册页面而封禁他。更何况在任何航展上，你随便找位 AV-8B 飞行员询问，对方都会把那本手册里的内容给你讲解得明明白白。
Mi Samsung
HMM the Harrier has been around since the late 60s and aside from the navigation and targeting computer programmes it is a pretty well known plane.
嗯...鹞式战机自 60 年代末就服役了，除了导航和火控计算机系统外，这架飞机的构造早就广为人知了。
Stalin Forever
Boys, keep it coming.
兄弟们，继续冲啊。
Elfein Twentyfives
funny i recall a gamer doing same thing on a world of tanks server way back in forums about capabilities of certain us tank
有意思 我记得以前有个玩家在《坦克世界》论坛上也干过类似的事 讨论某款美军坦克的性能参数
ootpik2
TFB. Whats so secret about 30 yr.old aircraft, truck, boat, or tank. Not a G_D dam thing. This argument is REDUNDANT as all that equipment.
真是可笑。30 年前的老式飞机、卡车、船只或坦克能有什么机密？根本屁都不是。这种争论就像那些过时装备一样多余。
There is NO standing Military on this Good EARTH that isn’t surrounded by THE P E O P L E !
在这颗美好的星球上，没有哪支军队不是被人民所包围的！
Jiszmo
This game must be pretty authentic to keep having these issues. If I had a better system I would be tempted to check it out.
这游戏真实度一定很高才会频频出现这类问题。要是我有更好的设备，还真想试试看。
Anonydun
Forum trolling elite level.
论坛钓鱼大师级操作。
A: I think the new megaplane has elite widgets with x km range
A：我觉得新型巨型战机的精英级部件射程可达 X 公里
B: No way, that’s BS
B：不可能，这太扯了
A: Dude my brother is a pilot, I swear, that is the spec
A：老兄我哥真是飞行员，我发誓，参数绝对没错
B: You’re lying, no one should listen to you
B：你在撒谎，大家别信他
A: (posts copy of official, confidential and secret manual) see? I’m right, elite widgets with x km range!
A：（发布官方机密手册副本）看见没？我说对了，精英级部件射程 X 公里！
B: Calls FBI…
B：呼叫联邦调查局…
JC Wale
It’s beyond me why ppl like to argue over tech spec stuff so much. Components change over the years and also, who cares
我真搞不懂为什么人们总爱为技术参数争论不休。零部件每年都在更新换代，再说了，谁在乎这些呢
XFretensis
The technical specs on the Roman ballista have now been banned. Similar to specs on a ‘windlass’ crossbow. The State of Victoria in Australia has now banned machetes even though specs are hard to find.
罗马弩炮的技术参数现已被禁用。类似于"绞盘弩"的参数规格。澳大利亚维多利亚州现已禁用砍刀，尽管相关参数很难找到。
Pragmatist_in_another_guise
Sadly, that is believable.
可悲的是这很可信。
Jim
So the U.S. secrecy issue is related to how many cans of beer can be stashed behind the flight crew seating?
所以美国的保密问题跟飞行座椅后面能塞多少罐啤酒有关？
Mist
Hey guys ! It is time to withdraw from these western ass game producers ! More excited platform from China
各位！是时候退出这些西方混蛋游戏厂商了！中国有更令人兴奋的平台
ANDREA Stengel
makes me want to play
这让我想玩
I Drone
I used to play another game like this but with even more graphics and physics—DCS, Digital Combat Simulator. The only problem with these games is that it takes extreme hardware to play them on high settings and that these games will eat a terrible amount of your time learning to fly certain airplanes and helicopters and run tanks, etc. I looked at the amount of time I was burning and the time I was away from my wife, and I had to stop playing…life is too short to be away from the ones we love. Play these games, and you will see what I mean.
我曾玩过另一款更注重图形和物理效果的同类型游戏——数字战斗模拟器 DCS。这类游戏唯一的问题在于：想要高画质运行需要顶级硬件配置，而且你需要投入大量时间学习驾驶特定飞机、直升机或操作坦克等。当我意识到耗费的时间以及因此减少陪伴妻子的时光后，不得不选择弃游…人生苦短，不该远离所爱之人。只要你玩过这些游戏，就会明白我的感受。
Pragmatist_in_another_guise
Documents such as those mentioned in the report are widely distributed among service personnel and contractors. Anybody with a keen interest in their content can find means to access them. This being especially true for agents of foreign powers. The West’s putative enemies – i.e. nations to which malintent conveniently is imputed so that armament industries and politicians may thrive – know far more about Western armament specification than ordinary citizens. Ironically, foreigners reciprocate in this fatuous level of secrecy.
报告中提及的这类文件在现役军人和承包商中广泛流传。任何对其内容有浓厚兴趣的人都能找到获取途径，外国特工尤其如此。西方假想敌——即那些被随意冠以恶意标签以便军工复合体和政客牟利的国家——对西方武器装备参数的了解远超普通民众。具有讽刺意味的是，外国势力也以同样荒谬的保密程度回敬西方。