伊朗大使馆呼吁印度向以色列施压，称“支持和平的大国应发挥作用”

IREDA1000
Why would Israel listen to India ? 
I don’t think Israel would listen to anyone, they know Americans won’t back out and that’s enough assurance.

为什么以色列要听印度的？我觉得以色列谁的话都不会听，他们知道美国人不会退出，这就足够有保障了。

noir_dx -> IREDA1000
It's more to make a country's stance clear.

更多是为了明确一个国家的立场。

MahatmaBapu69 -> noir_dx
Did Iran make it's stance clear on 7th May?

伊朗在 5 月 7 日明确立场了吗？

noir_dx -> MahatmaBapu69
You do realize that india and Iran are allies and supplies oil, yes? Iran opened its air space for Indian students to return home while israel is not letting anybody out, including Indians who were shipped out there. Israel also killed two Indian army UN peacekeeping soldiers in Lebanon but never gave an explanation. 
Maybe vishwaguru should learn to be one rather than working hard to make India an isolated country only to provide cheap exploitable labour.

你知道印度和伊朗是盟友，而且伊朗给印度供应石油吧？伊朗为印度学生开放领空让他们回国，而以色列却不让任何人离开，包括被送到那里的印度人。以色列还在黎巴嫩杀害了两名印度籍联合国维和士兵，但从未给出解释。也许 “世界导师” 应该学着成为真正的导师，而不是努力把印度变成一个孤立的国家，只为提供廉价可剥削的劳动力。

KizaruMus -> noir_dx
Iran plays both sides. India and Iran are geopolitical partners to satisfy each others needs, their relation is not based on some deeper love, or common values. Indian students were in Iran so they bear some responsibility as these students bring in the much needed forex for an isolated country. 
I don't think Israel purposefully targeted Indian peacekeepers who are on UN duty. Also these matters are discussed via govt to govt contacts, so we don't know what transpired regarding this issue. 
About India being isolated, I would point you to current relationship between India and Arab countries. Also between India and other countries in the Mediterranean sea like Greece, Cyprus etc. India is poised to build stronger relations with many countries in that region of the world with stronger military and defense ties. These all don't seem to be indicative of an isolated country. Also exporting labour is a positive as this leads to greater people to people contacts, on top of providing jobs and also providing service to host countries.

伊朗在两边都下注。印度和伊朗是地缘政治伙伴，满足彼此需求，他们的关系不是基于更深的爱或共同价值观。印度学生在伊朗，所以伊朗对他们有一定责任，因为这些学生为这个被孤立的国家带来了急需的外汇。我不认为以色列是故意针对在联合国服役的印度维和人员。此外，这些事情是通过政府间接触讨论的，所以我们不知道这个问题背后发生了什么。
关于印度被孤立，请看看印度与阿拉伯国家目前的关系，以及与希腊、塞浦路斯等地中海国家的关系。印度正准备通过加强军事和国防联系，与该地区的许多国家建立更牢固的关系，这些都不像是一个被孤立国家的迹象。此外，积极出口劳动力，因为这会促进人与人之间的联系，同时提供就业机会并为东道国提供服务。

noir_dx -> KizaruMus
Every country plays both sides. Self-interest comes first. However, there are times when you need to take a stand rather than abstaining from things. If we keep abstaining from such important UN votes, heavens forbid, when we need help from key countries, we'll be ignored. 
Anyways, there's no point in speaking with someone who thinks Israel didn't know the peacekeeping forces stationed there, despite not being a secret base, having distinguishable uniforms and vehicles with the big "UN" abbreviation on the building, vehicles, and watch towers. Exporting cheap, exploitable labour is not a good thing. It's just the government's way of shifting away its responsibilities, as it failed to create employable opportunities.

每个国家都在两边下注，利益优先。然而，有些时候你需要表明立场，而不是回避。如果我们在如此重要的联合国投票中一直回避，万一哪天我们需要关键国家的帮助，就会被忽视。
不管怎样，和一个认为以色列不知道那里驻扎着维和部队的人说话没意义，尽管那不是秘密基地，他们有可识别的制服和车辆，建筑物、车辆和瞭望塔上都有大大的 “UN” 缩写。出口廉价、可剥削的劳动力不是好事，这只是政府转移责任的方式，因为它未能创造就业机会。

KizaruMus -> noir_dx
UN assembly votes are not worth the paper on which they are printed. There is no mechanism to enforce anything that the general assembly passes. Even UN security council resolutions are not enforceable until the P-5 use their military power to enforce it. Just look at the ICJ case that ukraine filed against Russia in 2022, Russia ignored it and war is still going on 3 years after ICJ decided the case in ukraine's favor. In these situations the countries who move resolutions in general assembly, etc. are not looking at solutions, they are just looking to earn some virtue points and feel good about themselves. But the countries against whom the resolutions are brought up feel that world is conspiring against them and want to isolate them. So in light of these scenarios it  might be better to abstain and not take any sides because the outcome of these votes are inconsequential. 
Remember that collateral damage is always a reality in war. In 1967 six day war, Israel by mistake shot down a US naval ship, USS Liberty. These types on incidents are very unfortunate and regrettable part of warfare. In the case of UN peacekeeping forces and paraphernalia being attacked, it is prudent to remember that UN compounds in gaza were used to store weapons and also housed terrorists so UN is not without blemishes in this conflict. That being said I don't condone attacks on UN peacekeepers but everything has to be viewed in a context. 
As for labour export, it is a strong point of a country with overpopulation and is a show of skilled labour force. That being said Indian govt should help laborers like the ones who built the football stadiums in Qatar for FIFA world cup as those were working under adverse conditions. Not every laborer is exploited, some go outside to earn more money for their family. As more and more infrastructure projects are being planned in India some of these laborers will be employed in India.

联合国大会的投票一文不值，没有机制来执行大会通过的任何决议。甚至联合国安理会决议也无法执行，除非五常动用军事力量来执行。看看乌克兰在 2022 年对俄罗斯提起的国际法院案件，俄罗斯无视了它，战争在国际法院裁定乌克兰胜诉三年后仍在继续。在这种情况下，在大会等场合提出决议的国家不是在寻求解决方案，只是想赚取一些道德积分，自我感觉良好。但被提出决议的国家会觉得世界在密谋反对它们，想要孤立它们。因此，鉴于这些情况，最好是弃权，不站任何一边，因为这些投票的结果无关紧要。
记住，战争中附带损害总是难以避免。1967 年六日战争中，以色列误击了美国海军舰艇 “自由号”。这类事件是战争中非常不幸和令人遗憾的一部分。关于联合国维和部队及其装备遭到袭击，需要谨慎记住，加沙的联合国驻地被用来储存武器，还藏匿了恐怖分子，所以联合国在这场冲突中也并非毫无过错。话说如此，我并非要为袭击维和人员开脱，但任何事都需放在具体情境中考量。
至于劳动力出口，这是一个人口过剩国家的优势，也是熟练劳动力的体现。然而，印度政府应该帮助像在卡塔尔为国际足联世界杯建造足球场的劳工，他们在恶劣条件下工作。并非每个劳工都被剥削，有些人出国是为了给家人赚更多钱。随着印度规划越来越多的基础设施项目，这些劳工中的一些将在印度就业。

Marcus_Aurelius71 -> noir_dx
Yep let’s also not forget that Iran is India’s first overseas project with Chandhar port.

是的，别忘了伊朗的恰赫巴哈尔港是印度的第一个海外项目。

faraday__1971 -> MahatmaBapu69
Bruuh, a lot happened since that day. Including killing of around 10,000 kids in gaza. What israel did for its revenge is inhumane af. Both sides dont care about civilians.
Any sane indian would be neutral by now. Both of them are assholes who are strategically important for us. We want a world where both can coexist with overall stability in the region.

兄弟，从那天起发生了很多事，包括加沙约 1 万名儿童被杀。以色列的报复行为是不人道的。双方都不在乎平民，任何理智的印度人现在都会保持中立。他们两个都是混蛋，但对我们来说都具有战略重要性。我们希望有一个双方可以共存、地区总体稳定的世界。

LoyalKopite -> MahatmaBapu69
They stayed neutral.

他们保持中立。

Titswari -> IREDA1000
Israel doesn’t even listen to the Americans

以色列甚至不听美国人的。

LoyalKopite -> Titswari
It depends.

这要看情况。

shevy-java -> Titswari
No, I think they would listen, if there would be a strong and committed government. Trump is just flip-flopping and playing golf. That's not a strong government. His personal wealth amassed by +200% (or +100%, I don't have the exact number) in the last 2 years. His interests are to benefit from everything personally.
Most of Israel's supplies go through the USA. Without that support there would be no possibility for such a small country to offset larger nearby countries. So in principle a strong government in the USA would have more leverage over Israel. A weak government has no chance here.

不，我认为如果有一个强大且坚定的政府，他们会听的。特朗普只是摇摆不定，还在打高尔夫，这不是一个强大的政府。他的个人财富在过去两年里增加了 200%（或 100%，我没有确切数字），他的利益就是事事为自己谋私利。以色列的大部分物资都通过美国运输，没有这种支持，这样一个小国不可能抗衡附近更大的国家。所以原则上，美国的强政府对以色列有更大的影响力，弱政府在这里没有机会。

Iconic_Mithrandir -> IREDA1000
I mean, Israel imports a majority of its food, largely from Southern Europe and Turkey. If those countries were to threaten to even moderately restrict exports unless Israel ceases its war of aggression against Iran and pulls out of Gaza, Israel would not be in a strong position.
The US could step in, but the US is also actively deporting all of its farm workers right now thanks to Cheeto Benito's idiocy...so they may be challenged in actually delivering

我的意思是，以色列大部分粮食进口来自南欧和土耳其。如果这些国家威胁要适度限制出口，除非以色列停止对伊朗的侵略战争并撤出加沙，以色列的处境将不妙。美国可能会介入，但由于特朗普的愚蠢，美国现在正在积极驱逐所有农场工人… 所以他们可能在实际交付上遇到挑战。

TylerDurdenpromax
Israel controls the world's strongest nation and has literally bought off all politicians , senators and house members of that cunttree with a few thousand dollars. Do u think they will listen to India ?

以色列控制着世界上最强大的国家，实际上用几千美元就收买了那个国家的所有政客、参议员和众议员。你认为他们会听印度的吗？

Hot-bookworm -> TylerDurdenpromax
Few thousands dollars?? It's way above that number, I read somewhere if we take an average it comes close to a million DOLLARS and they buy politician on both sides, not being antisemitic but that community got hell lot of money trump got like 100$ million. Plus American banks aren't even central banks they are pvt banks (guess who owns it) it's just survival of the fittest they are just too intelligent 

几千美元？远不止这个数字，我在某处读到，如果取平均值，接近 100 万美元，他们收买双方的政客，不是反犹主义，但那个群体确实有很多钱，特朗普得到了大约 1 亿美元。此外，美国的银行甚至不是中央银行，它们是私人银行（猜猜是谁拥有的），这就是适者生存，他们太聪明了。

TylerDurdenpromax -> Hot-bookworm
There are some low level senators who have been paid less... But yeah Trump and other famous Democrats like Biden and Clinton etc have got millions of dollars. U aren't Antisemitic lol. It's just become so obvious now yet people are not ready to accept the fact and term it Antisemitic. Yes too intelligent XD.

有些低级参议员拿的钱少一些…… 但特朗普和其他著名民主党人，如拜登和克林顿等，已经拿到了数百万美元。你不是反犹主义者，哈哈，现在这已经很明显了，但人们还不愿意接受这个事实，并称之为反犹主义。是啊，太聪明了 XD。

Iconic_Mithrandir -> TylerDurdenpromax
People call "Jews run the world from the shadows" anti-semitic...and as a caricature it is.
But then you see AIPAC with their arm literally up the ass of 90% of US politicians, working their mouths like puppets, and its impossible to ignore the reality is far closer to the caricature than most would like to recognize.

人们称 “犹太人在幕后统治世界” 为反犹主义… 作为一种刻板印象，它确实是。但当你看到美国以色列公共事务委员会（AIPAC）的手臂几乎伸进 90% 美国政客的屁股里，像操纵木偶一样操纵他们的嘴时，就无法忽视现实比大多数人愿意承认的更接近这种刻板印象。

Hot-bookworm -> TylerDurdenpromax
Exactly, sure it's good for community and their interest but extremely bad for any democracy.

确实，当然这对他们的社区和利益有好处，但对任何民主国家都极其不利。

muxecoid
Just reminding that Iran is responsible for civil war in Yemen that killed more Muslim Arabs than Israel ever will.

提醒一下，伊朗对也门内战负有责任，杀死的阿拉伯穆斯林比以色列曾经杀的还多。

NicePhilosopher6525 -> muxecoid
Let's not speak bs either. The Yemen fiasco barely has anything to do with Iran, except for some moral + limited armed support for the Houthis. And the Saudis are more to blame for the death and destruction in Yemen, than Iran is.
However, it is true that Iran has bloodied its hands in Syria, by backing the murderous Assad regime.
Eitherways, backing either Iran or Israel is stupidity for India, since both are useful and key regional allies.

我们也不要说废话。也门的惨败与伊朗几乎没有关系，除了对胡塞武装的一些道义和有限的武装支持。沙特对也门的死亡和破坏比伊朗应负的责任更大。然而，伊朗确实在叙利亚沾了血，支持了杀人的阿萨德政权。无论如何，支持伊朗或以色列对印度来说都是愚蠢的，因为两者都是有用的关键地区盟友。

BigDimension4580
We should mind our business and not get involved in this conflict, if you guys feels it's wrong, instead of virtue signalling you can go to iran and fight.

我们应该管好自己的事，不要卷入这场冲突。如果你们觉得这是错的，与其进行道德表态，不如去伊朗战斗。

TaraLadka
Iran shouldn't be allowed to have nukes
Iran having nukes means half the terrorist groups have nukes

不应该允许伊朗拥有核武器，伊朗拥有核武器意味着一半的恐怖组织拥有核武器。

Raza-Ansari_786 -> TaraLadka
Bro it will balance the power in middle East and israel will remain docile , no harm towards middle eastern countries ,we should keep a better stance coz we get remittances and employment from middle East , israel docile , that area will spur

兄弟，这会平衡中东的力量，以色列将保持温顺，对中东国家没有伤害。我们应该保持更好的立场，因为我们从中东获得汇款和就业机会，以色列温顺了，那个地区就会繁荣发展。

Diligent_Driver_5049 -> Raza-Ansari_786
bro said "Israel " and "docile " in same sentence . Bro is more delusional than a kid believing in Santa Claus.

兄弟你竟然能把 “以色列” 和 “温顺” 放在同一个句子里。兄弟比相信圣诞老人的孩子还妄想啊。