中国如何能赢得第二次登月竞赛?
How China Could Win the Second Moon Race
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网友:我宁愿看到我的税金花在可能的前沿科技上,哪怕浪费了,也比眼睁睁看着我的国家错过历史大趋势强。德国在这儿肯定感同身受……
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中国如何能赢得第二次登月竞赛
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@oipr80
They don’t want China to get there first but then they are like: it’s too expensive we don’t know if it’s worth it.
他们不想让中国先登上月球,但又说:这太贵了,我们不知道值不值。
@oceanwave4502
I would rather see my tax money wasted on possible frontier tech, rather than seeing my country miss megatrends of history. Germany can relate here...
我宁愿看到我的税金花在可能的前沿科技上,哪怕浪费了,也比眼睁睁看着我的国家错过历史大趋势强。德国在这儿肯定感同身受……
@JanWnogu
The U.S. already WERE there first, so it not about being first, but about establishing economically feasible bussinesses there.
美国已经先登上月球了,所以这不是争第一的问题,而是要在那儿建立经济上可行的商业模式。
@pizzatime9565
Americans are worried someone gets to the moon first and realizes there is no American flag
美国人担心有人先登上月球,然后发现那儿根本没有美国国旗。
@gives_bad_advice
There are six flags. And China is one of four countries to have photographed them in the past 20 years.
有六面旗子。过去20年里,中国是四个拍到这些旗子照片的国家之一。
@vlogkitsune6785
Chinese built a new Space Station, landed on the dark side of the moon, got the world's first samples from there. Serious how can you call it a competition when they are way way ahead.
中国建了新的空间站,登陆了月球背面,拿到了全球首批那儿的样本。说真的,他们领先这么多,你还怎么叫这是竞赛?
@Lena-vw6ye
You see how China, uses competition, and competitive education to put people in the right place to outcompete US. While America uses it's power to bend rules to slow down China's progress. China was banned from ISS and then it made it's own space station. If everyone else is allowed to learn, why can't China? Because China could actually become better? China should continue what it is best at, observing, re-engineering, innovating and competing.
你看中国是怎么利用竞争和竞争性教育,把人才放在合适的位置上,然后超越美国的。而美国却用它的权力扭曲规则,拖慢中国的进步。中国被禁止参与国际空间站,然后它就建了自己的空间站。如果其他人都能学习,为什么中国不行?就因为中国可能会变得更强?中国应该继续做它最擅长的:观察、逆向工程、创新和竞争。
@kaduoluo8846
Thanks for your compliments, but to be frankly, it's a little over-competitive. China still has a long way to go but we hope all the people in the world can respect each other and grow together.
谢谢你的夸奖,但说实话,这个竞争有点过头了。中国还有很长的路要走,但我们希望全世界的人能相互尊重,共同成长。
@Wai_Wai
USA is concerned about China because China has its own independent Baidu, Alibaba, Huawei, its Beidou Navigational system, her own Space station, etc...
美国之所以担心中国,是因为中国有自己独立的百度、阿里巴巴、华为、北斗导航系统,还有自己的空间站等等。
@thor.halsli
Thank you for specifying that the first ones were all white men whilst showing a picture of all white men.
Don't think i would have come to that same conclusion without Bloomberg's help
感谢你们特意指出第一批登月的人全是白人男性,还配了一张全是白人男性的照片。
没有彭博社的帮助,我还真想不到这个结论。
@stevefink6000
Color of skin is meaningless, we are all the same. Unless of course white ppl did something first. Then its important to point it out.
肤色没啥意义,我们都是人,除非白人先干了啥大事,那当然得特意指出来。
@ahmedmahfuztalukder2651
i thought the same when they said the next mission has a woman and a person of colour. I thought that was clear when we saw the woman and black man on screen but I guess it needed to be explicitly called out
我也这么想,他们说下次任务会有女性和有色人种。我觉得屏幕上出现女性和黑人时这已经很明显了,但看来还得特意强调一下。
@yusufli4604
When Americans say for all mankind, they mean that they are the greatest of all mankind.
美国人说“为了全人类”,他们的意思是他们是全人类中最伟大的。
@Kevin-cm5kc
'You can't claim territory on the moon. So anyway, we made 'the artemis accords' where we say we can claim territory on the moon. But for some reason, china thinks we're claiming territory on the moon'
Yeah, its hard to figure out where they got that idea.
“你不能在月球上宣称领土,所以我们搞了个‘阿尔忒弥斯协定’,说我们可以在月球上宣称领土。但不知为何,中国觉得我们是在月球上抢地盘。”
是啊,实在搞不懂他们哪儿来的这种想法。
@techxdefence
China's success in moon exploration will ensure a gaint leap towards humanity
中国在月球探索上的成功将为人类带来巨大的飞跃。
@zxlzxlzxl72
I want to know why the United States landed on the moon more than 50 years ago but can't now. Has space technology stopped developing for more than 50 years?
我想知道为什么美国50多年前登上了月球,现在却不行了。航天技术这50多年是没有发展吗?
@BrainBooster-s4t
ISRO
The Indian Space Research Organization plans to set up the country's first space station by 2035 and put a human on the Moon by 2040.
印度空间研究组织(ISRO)。
印度空间研究组织计划到2035年建立首个国家空间站,并到2040年实现载人登月。
@INDIANSARESICKMENOFASIA
Two out of the best 3 space agencies of the World (Russia/USA/China) said India did not land on Moon's South Pole.
NASA specifically said "The Chandrayaan-3 landing site is located about 600 kilometers from the Moon’s South Pole.". This is just another diplomatic way of saying India did not land on Moon's South Pole. If India had landed on on Moon's South Pole, NASA would have simply said that "The Chandrayaan-3 landing site is located at the Moon’s South Pole" instead of "The Chandrayaan-3 landing site is located about 600 KILOMETERS FROM the Moon’s South Pole.
Dr Ouyang Ziyuan, lauded as the father of China’s lunar exploration programme, told the Chinese-language Science Times newspaper that the Chandrayaan-3 landing site, at 69 degrees south latitude, was nowhere close to the pole, defined as between 88.5 and 90 degrees. What does that mean? Some country (IN) has honesty issues?
全球三大航天机构(俄罗斯、美国、中国)中有两个说印度没有登陆月球南极。
1)NASA明确表示:“月船三号的着陆点距离月球南极约600公里”。这只是外交上的一种说法,意思是印度没有登陆月球南极。如果印度真的登陆了月球南极,NASA会直接说“月船三号着陆点位于月球南极”,而不是“距离月球南极约600公里”。
2)被誉为中国探月计划之父的欧阳自远博士对中文《科学时报》说,月船三号的着陆点在南纬69度,根本不靠近南极,南极被定义为88.5到90度之间。
这意味着什么?某个国家(印度)有诚信问题?
@jayc2886
We had told that Americans went to the moon in 1969. How come after 55 years later, we all have difficulty to back to moon again including the u.s even with more advanced technologies today??
我们听说美国1969年登上了月球。55年后,技术更先进了,为什么包括美国在内的所有国家都很难再次登月?
@7oshiki19
The reason I struggle to believe the Lunar landings actually happened is, when Nasa decided to go back to the moon in 2012 or whenever it was, they should have been able to do it in easily under 5 years...and yet we are still waiting for them to return. I mean they had the launch, ferry and landing tech sorted in the 1970s, knew how much it costs, and basically knew everything else. Lets assume 1-2 year for redesing and modifications, 1-2 year for testing, another year for fixing any bugs, 3 years of astronaught training alongside it. Thats 5 years. They dont need to wait for launch windows either. There is only minor RnD extra costs...it just doesnt make sense.
我很难相信登月真的发生过,原因在于NASA在2012年或什么时候决定重返月球时,本该轻松在5年内搞定……可我们还在等他们回去。我的意思是,1970年代他们已经搞定了发射、运输和着陆技术,知道成本多少,基本上啥都知道。假设重新设计和修改要1-2年,测试1-2年,修复问题再1年,宇航员同时进行3年的训练,总共5年。他们也不用等发射窗口。研发的额外成本也不多……这完全说不通。
@kongdingyou6723
If US NASA had landed on the moon some 50 year ago, it is not logical US can't do it now unless it really hasn't landed at all !!!
如果美国NASA 50年前登上了月球,现在却做不到,除非他们压根没登过,否则这不合逻辑!!!
@gives_bad_advice
What would be the motivation to do it again? What can a man do on the moon that a robot cannot?
再次登月的动机是什么?人在月球上能干啥机器人干不了的事情?
@justinandreiminatejada
AI is not there yet also the lunar soil is greatly damaging to electronics so they will need constant maintenance, this missions will occur relatively pretty soon now so there is no point in reinventing the lunar mission so late in development also sends a more powerful message than simply having some robots that can't even work anyways
人工智能还没到那一步,月球土壤对电子设备损害很大,需要不断维护,这些任务很快就会发生,现在重新开发登月任务已经没有意义,而且比起派几个压根不好用的机器人,载人登月传递的信息更有力。
@gives_bad_advice
So the motivation to send men to the moon, since 1972 would be to send a message? What would the message be and who would it be for? Want the message sent to the Soviets in the first 9 manned missions enough? I'm not convinced that there has been enough reason to go in the last 52 years, considering the cost and danger of attempting it.
所以自1972年以来,派人登月的动机就是传递信息?那信息是什么,给谁看的?前9次载人任务给苏联传递的信息还不够吗?考虑到成本和危险,我不觉得过去52年有足够理由再去。
@junglesafari233
First - India discovered water in the surface of our Moon
Second - it's India which landed on the far side of the moon
Simple google can tell us...
But here Bloomberg go again...
第一,印度发现了月球表面的水;
第二,印度是第一个登陆月球背面的国家。
简单谷歌一下就能知道……
但彭博社又来了……
@Meandbroafter2
Was not expecting India to lead the race
Also intresting that the day they reached south pole NASA announced new projects (its easy for them technologically, idk why they weren't doing it since last decades)
没想到印度会领先这场竞赛。
还有意思的是他们到达南极那天,NASA宣布了新项目(技术上对他们来说很简单,不知道为啥过去几十年没干)。
@donkeykong516
China wants to be go to the because they just wanted to see if the US reality went to the moon in 1969 by checking if that US flag is really there.
中国想去月球,就是想看看1969年美国是不是真的登了月,检查那面美国国旗是不是真在那儿。
@thuydoan7496
Win second moon race? That title made me laugh because you don't win when you came in second place after many many years after that.
赢得第二次登月竞赛?这标题让我笑了,因为过了这么多年,拿第二不算赢啊。
@cnexpat1009
I always baffled the term person of color. Don't we all have colors? Last time I check. Europeans and their descendants are not transparent.
我一直搞不懂“有色人种”这词儿。咱们不都有颜色吗?上次我检查了一下,欧洲人及其后代也不是透明的啊。
@mewanrocks
After watching this program, we actually should worry about US intentions. Not China’s. US is planning commercialise moon for the benefit of few companies. Thanks for opening up our eyes.
看了这个节目后,我们其实应该担心美国而不是中国的意图,因为美国计划让少数公司把月球商业化。谢谢你们让我们开了眼。
@rahuljain52
Check your facts. India is the first country to land with rover on far side of the moon.... pity to see Bloomberg documentaries broadcasted across the globe are inaccurate in their statements...
查查事实吧。印度是第一个用探测车登陆月球背面的国家……看到彭博社的纪录片传遍全球却说法不准,真是遗憾。
@flyflybaby2723
It was India that discovered water on the South Pole!
I can't believe that you made this vignette and forgot to mention that
是印度发现了月球南极的水!
真不敢相信你们做了这个短片却忘了提这事儿。
@aparajitasuman9727
Disliking this video because of the apparent gloss over the fact that water was discovered in 2008 by Chandrayaan which was sent by India.
我不喜欢这个视频,因为它显然忽略了2008年印度“月船一号”发现水的事实。
@INDIANSARESICKMENOFASIA
When China embarks on their Chang'e-6 Moon mission, they are inclusive. China allows 4 witness countries to join them in their space mission to the far side of the Moon (South Pole–Aitken basin). When India embarks on their Moon mission, they are exclusive, probably due to the limitations of Bollywood studios.
中国启动嫦娥六号月球任务时很包容,允许4个见证国家加入他们的月球背面(南极-艾特肯盆地)任务,而印度开展月球任务时却很排外,可能是因为宝莱坞工作室的局限性。
@NitinSwaroop
The narrator says only China has landed on the far side of the moon which is incorrect & misleading as in September 2023 India's Chadrayaan-3 moon mission landed even further towards the south pole of the moon.
旁白说只有中国登陆了月球背面,这不准确且具有误导性,因为2023年9月印度的月船三号任务登陆了更靠近月球南极的地方。
@regolith1350
On every video about the Lunar south pole, the comments section gets filled with people incorrectly claiming:
India was the first nation to land at the South Pole
India was the first nation to discover water on the Moon
India did NOT land at the South Pole. Chandrayaan-3 landed at 69 degrees South latitude, which is nowhere near the South Pole. They landed in ... the south. That's it. NOT THE SOUTH POLE. 69 degrees is not 90 degrees. That's like going to Norway and saying you're at the North Pole or going to Florida and saying you're at the Equator. And now, Intuitive Machines has landed at about 80 degrees south, twice as close to the South Pole as Chandrayaan-3. India was not the first nation to land at the South Pole because so far NOBODY has landed at the South Pole.
The actual instrument on the 2008 Chandrayaan-1 orbiter that "discovered" water at the south pole - Moon Mineralogy Mapper - was a NASA/JPL instrument. Designed, built, paid for, and operated by USA, not India. India didn't design it, didn't make it, didn't pay for it, didn't commission it, didn't operate it. There were also many other American satellites, missions, and observations from flybys, etc. that found evidence of water, including BEFORE Chandrayaan (such as Clementine way back in the 1990s).
每次关于月球南极的视频,评论区总是一堆人错误地宣称:
1)印度是第一个登陆月球南极的国家;
2)印度是第一个发现月球有水的国家。
印度根本没登陆南极。月船三号在南纬69度着陆,离南极差得远呢。他们只是登陆了……南部,不是南极,仅此而已。69度可不是90度。这就像你去了挪威却说你在北极,或者去了佛罗里达却说你在赤道。现在,直觉机器公司在南纬80度着陆,比月船三号离南极近两倍。印度不是第一个登陆南极的国家,因为至今没人登陆过月球南极。
2008年月船一号轨道器上“发现”南极水的实际仪器——月球矿物绘图仪,是NASA/喷气推进实验室的仪器,由美国而不是印度设计、制造、资助和操作。印度没设计、没制造、没出钱、没委托、也没操作。还有很多美国卫星、任务和飞越观测发现了水的证据,包括在月船一号之前(比如1990年代的克莱门汀任务)。
@vidyasagarrvsr3723
Thank your for your clarification. I did my research, When India landed chandrayaan 3 ( that is the nearest to the south pole, ever landed by any country, which is true it 69 degrees). Now the nearest is the Odysseus lander, someone ever get, (still 300km away from South pole)
感谢你的澄清。我查了一下,印度月船三号着陆时(南纬69度)是迄今为止任何国家最靠近南极的着陆点,这是真的。现在最靠近的是“奥德修斯”着陆器,离南极还有300公里。
@broski_654
Clementine's findings were speculative and not conclusive evidence. There were many attempts after that but Chandrayaan I's mission was the one that proved for sure that there was presence of water in the South pole
克莱门汀的发现只是推测,不是确凿的证据。之后有很多尝试,但月船一号任务是第一个明确证明南极有水的。
@aschauhan9392
China has big agch because her economic are robust and rnd and research are more than world
中国有巨大的优势,因为她的经济强劲,研发投入比全世界都多。
@gideongouvs5559
You mean the "first" moonrace ----- they will be the "first" to go to the moon because no-one has ever been there and no-one will ever go because it can't be done
你是说“第一次”登月竞赛——他们会是“第一个”登上月球的,因为从来没人去过,也没人能去,因为这根本做不到。
@ks20234
The first discovery of water on Moon was by Indian probe Chandrayaan 1 in 2008. In fact this discovery is one of the crucial reasons for rekindling of interest in missions to the Moon.
Secondly last year India was the first or second country which landed on the far side of the Moon... a feat which even USA couldnt accomplish.
Another biased presentation by a Western media ignoring India's achievements, which are all the more incredible considering the significantly less amount spent on it.
月球上首次发现水的是2008年印度的月船一号探测器,这项发现是重新点燃月球任务兴趣的关键原因之一。
其次,去年印度是第一个或第二个登陆月球背面的国家……连美国都没能做到这一壮举。
又一个西方媒体的有偏见的报道,它忽略了印度的成就,考虑到印度花的钱少得多,这些成就尤其令人惊叹。
@sid31663
China now understands that making noise of their progress for humanity will only invite enemies from the west, so now they do it without making noise
中国现在明白,为人类的进步大肆宣传只会招来西方的敌意,所以他们现在默默地干。
@alexleanh
The biggest problem with the Artemis Accord is... CREDIBILITY! The US is well-known for tearing up treaties and accords throughout its history. The US government has torn up, dismissed, ignored, rescinded... over 300 treaties with the Native Americans to take over their land (what to guarantee the US won't do the same on the moon), created excuses to go to war with Mexico to take their land to build the United States. How about the many international treaties such as the Paris Accord during the Vietnam War, the recent reduced Nuclear Missiles deal with Russia, the recent Iran Nuclear Deal with Iran and the US allies, the Kyoto Protocol, etc. Also, the US is a signer and backer for Israel to take Palestinians' land to create their own nation and still... spreading their illegal settlements. The US is not operating on accords and treaties, but on military power and ego.
阿尔忒弥斯协定的最大问题是……可信度!美国历史上以撕毁条约和协定而闻名。美国政府撕毁、忽视、撤销了与美洲原住民的300多个条约,抢占了他们的土地(谁能保证美国不会在月球上干同样的事),他们还找借口与墨西哥开战,抢地建立美国。还有那些国际条约,比如越南战争时期的《巴黎协定》、最近与俄罗斯的削减核导弹协议、与伊朗及美国盟友的伊朗核协议、《京都议定书》等等。美国还是以色列的支持者,签署协议支持其占领巴勒斯坦土地建立国家,还在继续扩大非法定居点。美国靠的不是协定和条约,而是军事力量和自我中心。
@twood2032
I'm very sure the Soviet unx didn't just try, they were the first humans to land on the moon. I think this lady is wrong to say they were trying and sounds like belittling the Russians in their achievement.
我很确定苏联不只是尝试,他们是第一个登上月球的人类。我觉得这个女的说他们“尝试”登月是错的,听起来像在贬低俄罗斯的成就。
@Bmthbabe23
Why don't you say what is true? China is working with any Country including the USA who would like to be apart of China Space endevour. PS NATO Countries have been shown International Law does not apply so blah blah
为什么不说真话?中国愿意跟任何国家合作,包括美国,只要他们想参与中国的太空事业。附言:北约国家已经表明国际法对他们没用,所以随便吧。
@Reyesnino8763
The difference is you think is a moon race, a win or lose stuff, they think they just doing some normal human race space explore stuff, how come what other people did something can always triggered you?
As my mom always telling me, don't compare with other people, just focus your own business
区别在于你觉得这是登月竞赛,非赢即输,他们却觉得这只是人类正常的太空探索。为什么别人干了点啥总能让你激动?
我妈总是告诉我,别跟别人比,专心干好自己的事。
@Tabula_Rasa1
China cant sign the Artemis Accord because China is forbidden to work with American Space Agency due to Wolf Amendment. That should have been provided to the viewers.
中国不能签署阿尔忒弥斯协定,因为沃尔夫修正案禁止中国与美国航天局合作。这一点应该告诉观众。
@mitropoulosilias
SO if China go there First then it means that American Capitalism didn't worked???
BTW the budget in USA usually goes 5 to 10 times more than the first estimations...
check out how must the Starliner costed and what was the estimated cost on the bigining... furthermore Starliner did not even worked...
maybe we cant really do BIG THINGS in capitalism and based on private sector, because those guys usually want to make more money fast and space need it's time... Just like any other amazing things in our universe.
所以如果中国先到了月球,就意味着美国资本主义失败了???
顺便说一句,美国的预算通常比最初估计高出5到10倍……
看看“星际客机”的成本和最初估计的成本……而且星际客机压根没成功……
也许在资本主义和私营部门的主导下,我们真的干不了大事,因为那些家伙总想快点赚钱,而太空事业需要时间……就像宇宙中其他了不起的东西一样。