Hiram Ruiz
China is a joke the USA has the real deal when it comes to technology

中国是个笑话，谈到技术，美国才是真正的实力派。

Ron Smith
Show me any city in America that can even come close to it.

给我看看美国有哪个城市能和它相提并论。

©️
lol why do you think the US is considered the most powerful force, Our leaders fund the military way more than fixing our country

哈哈，你为什么认为美国被认为是地球上最强大的力量？我们的领导人给军队的资金比用于建设国家的资金多得多。

Eris
US isn't considered the most powerful anymore

美国已经不再被认为是世界上最强大的国家了。

©️
Oh really let me hear who is

哦，真的吗？让我听听是谁。

Eris
China

中国。

Ron Smith
Considered that by who? The whole world laughs at America. They think we are fat, lazy, and dumb. Which we do a great job at proving that.

谁认为的？全世界都在嘲笑美国。他们认为我们又胖又懒又笨。我们在这方面做得非常出色。

©️
lol is our military fat, lazy and dumb?Just cause we got civs that eat like pigs that doesn’t correlate with our military

哈哈，我们的军队又胖又懒又笨吗？仅仅因为我们有像猪一样吃东西的平民，这和我们的军队可没关系。

Ron Smith
My bad I didn’t realize the military was all America was. Carry on.

我的错，我没意识到美国就只有军队了。继续吧。

Tommy Lawrence
it still is why do u think so many countries still buy weapons from us

它仍然是，你觉得为什么这么多国家仍然从我们这里购买武器？

Unsuspecting.Armadillo
Nope sorry

不，抱歉。

Eris
name one thing the US is better than China at

说出一件美国比中国强的地方。

Unsuspecting.Armadillo
Naval power, air power, nuclear power. The three biggest indicators of success during war

海军力量、空军力量、核力量。战争中成功的三大指标。

Eris
China has way more ship building capacity than the US, China actually has flying 6th gen fighters. US has more nukes but doesn't have hypersonic missiles

中国的造船能力远超美国，中国实际上拥有正在飞行的第六代战斗机。美国有更多的核武器，但没有高超音速导弹。

Unsuspecting.Armadillo
China has 6th gen fighters that are still years from actual production, China has shipbuilding capacity for smaller vessels, and nukes>hypersonic missiles lol

中国的第六代战斗机距离实际生产还有数年，中国拥有小型舰艇的造船能力，而且核武器比高超音速导弹更重要哈哈。

Eris
US doesn't even have 6th gen fighters that fly. And ICBM nukes are toys compared to hypersonic nukes

美国甚至没有能飞的第六代战斗机。洲际弹道导弹核武器和高超音速核武器相比就是玩具。

Eris
yk hypersonic missiles are also nuclear capable right? They're faster and not interceptable

你知道高超音速导弹也能携带核弹头，对吧？它们更快，无法拦截。

chillywilly
because of the secret tech no ody really knows about

因为没有人真正知道的秘密技术。

Alpha homeless in NYC
Lol…….. How are you so cute

哈哈……你怎么这么可爱。

©️
Hey thanks! My battle buddy usually tells me the same

嘿，谢谢！我的战友通常也这么说。

Hiram Ruiz
You guys think china is so high tech I just want to make sure you guys know that the us is at least a decade ahead of of china or Russia and that is is a proven fact , no one can’t deny that like or not the USA will be the superior superpower of the world , don’t care how much technology you guys think china has

你们认为中国高科技，我只是想让你们知道美国至少领先中国或俄罗斯十年，这是一个被证明的事实，无论喜不喜欢，没有人能否认美国是世界上超级大国，我不在乎你们认为中国有多少技术。

lucas295838
The county in housing crisis?

那个有住房危机的国家？

Sigmoid

A strong argument that carriers will be obsolete within 10-15 years. Tech is越来越 so advanced that getting along, solving problems amicably and making peace is probably going to be easier and more profitable than waging expensive wars.
一个有力的论点是，航母将在10-15年内过时。技术越来越先进，以至于友好相处、和平解决问题和实现和平可能比发动昂贵的战争更容易、更有利可图。

jppvesa
The US hasn't got the capacity for an attrition war, and going nuclear against a nuclear country is out of the option. China would defacto force US to retreat back home in a manner of months....Am I glad to say this, no, as you're our supposed ally, at least after Trump is removed from the picture. You haven't got the stomach to lose 1000 soldiers a day let alone more... ..you need to build up more and faster

美国没有打消耗战的能力，对一个核国家动用核武器是不可能的。中国实际上会迫使美国在几个月内撤回国内……我高兴这么说吗？不，因为你们是我们的盟友，至少在特朗普下台之后。你们没有每天损失1000名士兵的勇气，更不用说更多了……你们需要更快地壮大自己。

Erik
Nukes doesnt matter when both sides has enough to destroy the earth more then 4 times

当双方都有足够毁灭地球四次以上的核武器时，核武器就不重要了。

Unsuspecting.Armadillo
Doubtful that carriers will become obsolete. Being able to have a small Air Force deployed anywhere anytime is a useful tool

航母是否会过时值得怀疑。能够随时随地部署一支小型空军是一个有用的工具。

mick
the american empire is crumbling everyday. those ones who will start ww3 is the US because they know and are getting desperate

美利坚帝国每天都在崩溃。那些会发动第三次世界大战的是美国，因为他们知道并且越来越绝望。

ً
Yea nearly forgot it's china who have their bases all around the world isn't it? it's not USA that's for sure.. LOL

是的，差点忘了是中国在世界各地都有基地，不是吗？肯定不是美国。哈哈。

Sigmoid
It has been without doubt. Undersea drones, hypersonics and drone swarms. They are becoming increasingly vulnerable. It wasn't lack of metal or crew that stopped battleships being produced.

毫无疑问。水下无人机、高超音速武器和无人机蜂群。它们正变得越来越脆弱。阻止战列舰生产的不是缺乏金属或船员。

Unsuspecting.Armadillo
Yea, it was because missile cruisers could do a battleships job much better. Nothing can do an aircraft carriers job better. And carriers don’t sail alone. They have ships spread out miles and miles to protect against threats like that lol.

是的，那是因为导弹巡洋舰能比战列舰更好地完成任务。没有什么能比航空母舰做得更好。而且航母不是单独航行的。它们有船只散布在数英里之外，以抵御那样的威胁，哈哈。

Sigmoid
It wasn't just that, there vulnerability to modern munitions and expense played a very big part. It doesn't matter how big a protective fleet is if it is overwhelmed by mass production. Despite the number of US carriers, as soon as just one is disabled then US pride, power projection and global status is gone.

不仅仅是那样，它们对现代弹药的脆弱性和高昂的费用也起了很大的作用。如果一支保护舰队被大规模生产的武器压倒，那么它的规模有多大都无关紧要。尽管美国航母数量众多，但只要有一艘被击毁，美国的自豪、力量投射和全球地位就会荡然无存。

Unsuspecting.Armadillo
lol no. The US has 11 nuclear aircraft carriers . The rest of the world has 1 (France). The US could lose 9 and still have unmatched global power projection.

哈哈，不。美国有11艘核动力航空母舰。世界上其他国家只有1艘（法国）。美国即使失去9艘，仍然拥有无与伦比的全球力量投射能力。

CatInTheHat67
not anymore

不再是了。

Sigmoid
One is missing the point, when just one is disabled they will be classed as sitting ducks and expensive liabilities, not power projection.

有一点被忽略了，只有一艘被击毁时，它们将被归类为活靶子和昂贵的负担，而不是力量投射。

Rakkeren
Yes

是的。

Unsuspecting.Armadillo
Not really. A floating airport would still be incredibly useful, even if China has to use millions to disable it (if it will even be able to). No other nation has the reach of the US, even if one or two carriers are disabled. People don’t stop using things when one goes down lMao.

不尽然。一个浮动机场仍然会非常有用，即使中国需要花费数百万来使其瘫痪（如果它能够做到的话）。即使一两艘航母被击毁，也没有其他国家拥有美国的这种影响力。东西坏了一个，人们并不会停止使用它。

Sigmoid
One is right they don't. The carriers roles will change as they become more vulnerable as tech against them increases forcing them further away from peer combat zones. This will probably be in next 10-15 years.

的确如此，他们不会。随着针对航母的技术不断发展，它们将变得更加脆弱，迫使它们远离同级别作战区域，因此航母的角色将发生改变。这可能在未来10-15年内发生。

Unsuspecting.Armadillo
As tech against them increases, so does the protective tech. You mentioned hypersonic missiles. You think that anti hypersonic missile tech isn’t already in r&d? Those carriers are the second biggest power projector for the US (behind the nuclear triad) and they are obviously going to invest just as heavily in protecting them

随着针对它们的技术增长，保护技术也会随之增长。你提到了高超音速导弹。你认为反高超音速导弹技术还没有在研发中吗？这些航母是美国第二大力量投射工具（仅次于核三位一体），他们显然会同样大力投资保护它们。

Loins
The US infrastructure is weak because of the massive military

美国的基础设施很弱，因为军队太庞大了。

Filip Očkaj
Because you debt as dck your 30 generation never be pay that debt low iq

因为你们的债务多得像……你们的30代人永远也还不清那些债务，智商真低。

Tommy Lawrence
they still do bro

他们仍然这样做，兄弟。

Gamer4life
Bros mad usa actually went downhill now that China is nm1

兄弟生气了，美国现在真的走下坡路了，因为中国是第一了。

Gamer4life
Thing is most countries stopped trading w usa and usa hardly has any Allie’s left on top of that usa has to produce own drones cars phones etc without the resources needed they used to get from Africa they stopped sending

问题是大多数国家停止与美国贸易，美国几乎没有盟友了，此外美国不得不生产自己的无人机、汽车、手机等，没有他们过去从非洲获得的所需资源，他们停止了出口。

Gamer4life
And so it will go downhill for usa complete focus on military will take it down from within happend before lol

所以美国会走下坡路，完全专注于军事会，其内部会崩溃，以前也发生过，哈哈。

Eris
having bases doesn't mean ur strong

有基地不代表你强大。

Eris
ah yes. the country with 90%+ home ownership is in a housing crisis

啊，是的。房屋拥有率超过90%的国家正处于住房危机中。

Sigmoid
One is right, this is true they will be investing heavily to protect them. As one mentioned earlier this was one of reasons the battleships became obsolete, too expensive for the thick armor. Manned fighters and stealth planes are all very expensive to design make, run, maintain and most importantly lose. Drones will make these planes obsolete soon too for a fraction of the cost. Who needs a carrier against peers if your not launching fighters?

确实如此，他们会大力投资保护它们。正如之前提到的，这也是战列舰过时的原因之一，厚重的装甲成本太高。有人驾驶战斗机和隐形飞机在设计、制造、运行、维护以及最重要的是损失方面都非常昂贵。无人机也将很快使这些飞机过时，而且成本仅为这些的一小部分。如果你不发射战斗机，谁还需要航母来对抗同级别对手呢？

Unsuspecting.Armadillo
Drones (at least what China is making right now) will not make fighters obsolete unmanned fighters may, but they would still need a carrier to launch from. And battleships became obsolete because missile cruisers did their jobs better in every way, not because they became too expensive to protect.

无人机（至少中国目前正在制造的）不会使战斗机过时。无人战斗机可能会，但它们仍然需要航母来发射。战列舰之所以过时，是因为导弹巡洋舰在各个方面都能更好地完成它们的任务，而不是因为它们的保护成本太高。

Sigmoid
It was one of the reasons. No time to go round in circles with you. Cheap, effective, unmanned, easy to mass produce, swarmable, EMP proofed and AI coordinated drones and missile tech is probably going to have the advantage over eyewateringly expensive carriers, planes and pilots who take 10 years to train. This will probably be 10-15 years for carriers and maybe by 2060 for planes.

那只是原因之一。没时间和你兜圈子了。廉价、高效、无人、易于大规模生产、可蜂群作战、抗电磁脉冲且人工智能协调的无人机和导弹技术，很可能比耗资巨大、训练10年才能上岗的航母、飞机和飞行员更具优势。这可能在10到15年内对航空母舰构成威胁，也许到2060年会对飞机构成威胁。

ً
Being able to have your bases all around the world shows how powerful as a military (country) you are. What are you talking about?

能够在世界各地拥有基地，这表明你作为一个军事（国家）是多么强大。你在说什么？

©️
Buddy no one said the military was all America was, You simply said they view Americans as fat, lazy and dumb, Which correct a lot are but will most of them be the ones getting drafted? No, Are they in the United States Fighting Force? No All I said was, is our Military fat, lazy and dumb? Which they’re not so put some respect on something you wouldn’t enlist in, And most of our youth generation is in the gym in good shape. Ofcourse we have fats but that’s all over the world bud

老兄，没人说军队就是美国的一切，你只是说他们认为美国人又胖又懒又笨，没错，很多人是这样，但他们中的大多数会是那些被征召入伍的人吗？不。他们是美国军队的一员吗？不。我只是说，我们的军队又胖又懒又笨吗？他们不是，所以对你不会入伍的事物表示一些尊重吧。我们的大部分年轻一代都在健身房里保持良好身材。当然我们有胖子，但全世界都有，伙计。

TheMichaelfr
Chinas only winning parts is their factory’s a couple big bombing runs couple easily crumble all of Chinas reinforcements and counter defense systems

中国唯一的优势就是他们的工厂，几次大规模轰炸就能轻易摧毁中国所有的增援和反防御系统。

Eris
like u can even get with in 1000km of China's airspace

就像你们甚至无法进入中国领空1000公里以内一样？

TheMichaelfr
Probably can stealth bombing during the night and icbms if America feels like it

如果美国愿意，很可能会在夜间进行隐形轰炸和洲际弹道导弹攻击。

irdfc_ok
your population is tho, 60% overweight and 30% obese. also really bad education in most schools along with shit wages and no free healthcare, America is a 3rd world country in a trench coat pretending to be a 1st world country. hell, even Japan is更好 than y'all, yous are just defunded as fuck only for majority if not nearly all of it going to the military atp, and then into companies hands for a bag of $20 bolts they charge the military $40,000 for.

你的人口确实如此，60%超重，30%肥胖。而且大多数学校的教育质量很差，工资也很低，也没有免费医疗。美国就像一个穿着风衣假装是第一世界国家的三流国家。甚至日本都比你们好，你们被严重削减资金，大部分甚至几乎所有资金都流向了军队，然后流向了公司，这些公司把价值20美元的螺栓以4万美元的价格卖给军队。

©️
Yup 47% of males aged 18-25 are overweight, Which If a draft was to happen we would have a decent amount of overweight males getting sent to war, damn right the schools are most kids aren’t learning nothing anymore either, it’s sad and yea it’s sucks to see our leaders funding the military more then helping the country out with important stuff

是的，18-25岁的男性中有47%超重，如果发生征兵，我们会有相当数量的超重男性被送去参战，学校确实很糟糕，大多数孩子也不再学习任何东西了，这很可悲，看到我们的领导人把更多的资金投入军事而不是帮助国家解决重要问题，真是令人沮丧。

Eris
China has hypersonic missiles and some of the best air detec systems, US ain't getting through

中国拥有高超音速导弹和一些最好的防空系统，美国无法突破。

yueee
The f35 that american is proud of got shotdown in Chinese Airspace? A superpower that struggle to deal houthis?

美国引以为豪的F35在中国领空被击落了？一个连胡塞武装都难以对付的超级大国？

Adrian
In what way? Not militarily. They’re still behind economically, even though they got wayyyyyyy more people than USA has. Give me 1 logical reason to put them ahead.

在哪方面？不是军事方面。他们经济上仍然落后，尽管他们的人口比美国多得多。给我一个把他们排在前面的合理解释。

TheMichaelfr
Hypersonic goes both ways dude and air detection might do some but not anything against some of our stealth bombers

高超音速是双向的，伙计，空中探测可能有点作用，但对我们的一些隐形轰炸机没有任何作用。

.
the US military does have an issue with being overweight

美国军队确实存在超重问题。

Eris
they're now ahead in military and has been ahead in economy for years they're also ahead in infrastructure, safety, tech, education, and healthcare

他们现在军事上领先，经济上领先多年了。他们在基础设施、安全、技术、教育和医疗方面也领先。

Eris
ur stealth bombers ain't as good as u think buddy

你们的隐形轰炸机没你想的那么好，伙计。

Wade watts
so what im hearing is ppl are getting rich off of the funding and no one will be able to track how the money was spent bcoz its gonna be labelled top secret

所以我听到的是，人们靠着这些资金发财，没有人能够追踪钱是怎么花的，因为它会被标记为最高机密。

KonstaK
USA is total joke

美国完全是个笑话。

Marcin Najman
yes, with 50 years delay

是的，延迟了50年。

leigh_perry
Where your flying cars ? China has them for sale already.

你们的飞行汽车呢？中国已经有售了。

Yi Feng
that's why USA use china DJI drone

这就是为什么美国使用中国的DJI无人机。

molland2020
What’s America’s real deal in different technology area? What area the China is not surpassing or catching up?

美国在不同技术领域有什么真本事？中国没有超越或追赶的领域是什么？

EdwinOnAir
Quantity vs quality.. i think based on history results you can do the math

数量与质量……我想根据历史结果，你可以算一下。

logi
China has even better technology.

中国有更好的技术。

Mark Bee537
Really?

真的吗？

drxshng434
lol all the technology US uses is made in china. where do u think they get their stuff from. you don't think china would save the best for themselves?

哈哈，美国使用的所有技术都是中国制造的。你认为他们从哪里得到这些东西？你不认为中国会把最好的留给自己吗？

James lorenza
Ok buddy

好吧，伙计。

NK
yeah sure. thats why most usa products are built in china

是啊，当然。这就是为什么大多数美国产品都是在中国制造的。

zen tzu
China probably got 100 hidden nukes

中国可能藏着100枚核弹。

foutezmoilapaix
most of USA military technology contains parts made in china, good luck.

美国的大部分军事技术都包含中国制造的零部件，祝你好运。

vognor7
this is exactly what the problem is with america

这正是美国的问题所在。

scsndo
US has better technology the only problem is there isnt a single factory in the US

美国拥有更好的技术，唯一的问题是美国没有一家工厂。

Thom S
Are we serious lol

我们是认真的吗，哈哈。

Jabul Kumar
china has much more potential than USA

中国比美国有更大的潜力。

hahahahahaq

哈哈哈哈。

DennisVaaaa
And Sweden is even mor advanced than any other country. So what is your point?

瑞典甚至比其他任何国家都更先进。那你的观点是什么？

Abraham Beglin
DJI is from china btw

顺便说一句，大疆是中国的。

Yaesus♀️⚛️
I don't get this comment because China is more technologically advanced than the us

我不明白这条评论，因为中国在技术上比美国更先进。

sauður
hahahahaha what

哈哈哈哈什么。

Anees Khan
It isn’t USA it’s the German engineers that USA recruited

那不是美国，是美国招募的德国工程师。

Hopper
are you sure?

你确定吗？

Hiram Ruiz

百分百。

Fripturel Elicopter
China it's the one who it's winning the race of technological advancement.

中国正在赢得技术进步的竞赛。

Per Kristian kassa
china is surpassing usa in tech in a few years. nothing new comes from usa. all advances in physics and manufacturing is in China

中国将在几年内超越美国的技术。美国没有新东西出来。所有物理和制造业的进步都在中国。

Lemon.777
that time is over

那个时代已经过去了。

gerpogie
No they don’t

不，他们没有。

user2313904249964

对对对 你说的对，继续这么想，所以不要天天想着制裁我们了，反正我们这么差

jack reacher
haha

哈哈。

Andy
America by definition is a third world country

从定义上讲，美国是一个第三世界国家。

Tomas Eriksson65
are you from the past?

你来自过去吗？

umm no china has technologically clearly surpassed usa

嗯，不，中国在技术上已经明显超越了美国。

Orreat⚽
Hollywood boy

好莱坞男孩。

Admiral Akbar
lol

哈哈。

Adolf Burger
usa is a joke for years now

美国这些年来一直是个笑话。

Hiram Ruiz
That doesn’t mean anything we still the superpower china don’t even have carriers that can navigate for 20 plus years without refueling we got nuclear carriers not diesel crap the needs refueling every 8 hours

那什么都不代表，我们仍然是超级大国，中国甚至没有可以不加油航行20多年的航母，我们有核动力航母，不是那种每8小时就需要加油的柴油垃圾。

Adolf Burger
yeah sure

是啊，当然。

Pavlos
Check where your iPhone is from

看看你的iPhone是哪里产的。

Hiram Ruiz
They were invented in America years ago later they move to china for cheaper labor but we have the technology

它们是多年前在美国发明的，后来为了更便宜的劳动力才搬到中国，但我们拥有技术。

hsjcj
So the United States doesn't need to impose sanctions on China.

所以美国不需要制裁中国？

will
please tell me you're joking, the us is just about reaching china's level of technology from about 20 years ago....

请告诉我你在开玩笑，美国的技术水平才刚刚达到中国大约20年前的水平……

RoastKale
zero chance. usa weapons need Chinese refined metals and minerals, womp womp. china have hypersonic so you'd lose your stuff just as fast with your untested defence systems

零机会。美国武器需要中国提炼的金属和矿物，呜呜。中国有高超音速武器，所以你的未经测试的防御系统也会很快失灵。

ZAAD-piraat
i dont think so, i think china might be stronger at the moment

我不这么认为，我觉得中国现在可能更强大。

Lowie
nor really

不完全是。

Kung Fu guy
The US needs China to be able to produce that technology though.

不过美国需要中国才能生产那种技术。

Hiram Ruiz
I’m sure one day the USA is going to to show the world whos the boss

我敢肯定有一天美国会向世界展示谁才是老大。