你对中国大妈在公园跳广场舞怎么看？ 果然是一种远观很美好，近听很吵闹的两极分化运动
What do you think about Chinese aunties dancing in the park?
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网友：为什么这些现象正在中国各地发生？美国纽约布鲁克林的日落公园就已成为华人大妈们展示风采的舞台，休闲方式包括广场舞、交际舞以及乐器练习。不过这些活动进行的并不顺利，因为带有音乐伴奏的关系常遭到周边居民的抗议，时间一长还引来了警察......
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What do you think about Chinese aunties dancing in the park?
你对中国大妈在公园跳广场舞怎么看？
Culture | 文化
你对中国大妈在公园跳广场舞怎么看？
Culture | 文化
Why are these phenomena occurring throughout China?
为什么这些现象正在中国各地发生？
美国纽约布鲁克林的日落公园就已成为华人大妈们展示风采的舞台，休闲方式包括广场舞、交际舞以及乐器练习。不过这些活动进行的并不顺利，因为带有音乐伴奏的关系常遭到周边居民的抗议，时间一长还引来了警察。
为什么这些现象正在中国各地发生？
美国纽约布鲁克林的日落公园就已成为华人大妈们展示风采的舞台，休闲方式包括广场舞、交际舞以及乐器练习。不过这些活动进行的并不顺利，因为带有音乐伴奏的关系常遭到周边居民的抗议，时间一长还引来了警察。
一组“中国大妈”在俄罗斯莫斯科红场跳广场舞的照片在网上热传。这次同样引来了当地警察，而大妈们称，警察仅是提醒她们“小声点”而已。
几位中国大妈在法国巴黎卢浮宫大跳广场舞的照片也在网络上引发口水仗。这一次警察没有来，倒是不少网民批评大妈的行为“丢了丑”。
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It's great that China is safe enough that they can enjoy themselves in the parks.
中国的安全性真的令人称赞，这使得人们能够在公园里尽情享受。
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My step mom came from China and felt quite isolated and inactive here. In China, she was a leader of a dancing group that danced in a park across their apartment complex. They had uniforms and fan props. Just a bunch of ladies, and some men, who wanted to do a social and physical activity.
When she got here, she couldn't get that. She tried dancing in our backyard but it wasn't enough. She moved to the school park near our home. She danced by herself, music coming from phone, for days.
Then, one after another, people joined her. We live in a very multicultural city, and ladies of VARIOUS cultural backgrounds asked to join my step mom. She did not know English, but the desire to dance, be active, and socialize was universal. Then COVID happened and ruined everything.
All this to say, this is a generally good thing. If it bothers you, either ask them to turn it down, ask them to move elsewhere that doesn't bother you, or you get over it. They are not doing it 24/7. They are not out there to be a menace. They are doing something positive for their health, mental and physical.
If you wanna deny them enjoyment of the space for your enjoyment of the space like you deserve it more, you're not "wrong," just a Karen.
我的继母来自中国，在这里感到相当孤立且不活跃。在中国时，她是一个舞蹈队的队长，这个舞蹈队经常在她们公寓楼对面的公园里跳舞。她们有统一的服装和扇子道具，不过是一群女士，还有一些男士，希望通过舞蹈进行社交活动并锻炼身体。
来到这里后，她没法继续那种生活。她试着在我们家的后院跳舞，但那远远不够。于是她搬到我们家附近的学校公园，在那里独自跳舞，用手机播放音乐，一连跳了好几天。
后来，一位又一位的人加入了她。我们住在一个多元文化的城市，各种不同文化背景的女士主动要求加入我继母的舞蹈。尽管她不懂英语，但舞蹈、运动和社交的愿望却是共同的。然而后来新冠疫情到来，一切都被破坏了。
说这么多想表达的是，这其实总体上是件好事。如果你对此感到困扰，要么请她们把音量调小一点，要么请她们换一个不会打扰你的地方，或者你就克服自己的不适。她们又不是24小时都在那里活动，更不是故意来惹麻烦的，她们正在做一些对自己的身体和心理健康有益的事情。
如果你想否定她们对公共空间的使用，来满足你自己的使用需求，好像自己更有“资格”，那你并不是“错了”，你只是一个“Karen”罢了。（注：Karen一词常被用来指喜欢无理取闹、爱挑剔的中年女性，具有一定贬义。）
I know it's been a while since the height of covid. I hope your step mom is still dancing with her friend group
我知道距离新冠疫情高峰期已经过去有一段时间了，希望你的继母还能和她的朋友群一起跳舞。
What’s the big deal? Traditional exercise and social activity.
这有什么大惊小怪的？传统的运动与社交活动罢了。
Couldn't care less in China but lately in North america there's been a group of ladies that have been absolutely blasting the music. You can hear it across the entire park and streets away. It started with a small speaker. And now have a giant boom box.
It's just disrupting to everyone else. I want peace and tranquility while I stroll. Hear the birds. While I understand a little more noise isn't a big deal in a tier 1 city, in a sleepy North American suburb that kind of noise is jarring.
Nobody would appreciate me blasting rap music across the entire park. Just because they're sweet old ladies doesn't make it okay
在中国可能没人在乎，但最近在北美，有一群女士开始用超大音量播放音乐，整个公园甚至离得几条街都能听见。这最开始还只是用小音箱，现在已经是超大音响，看似升级了设备，却破坏了周围每个人的氛围。
这对其他人来说实在是扰人的，我散步时只希望感受和平与宁静，听鸟儿鸣叫。虽然在中国一线城市多一点噪音可能没什么，但在一个宁静的北美郊区，这种音量真的让人难以接受。
如果我在全公园范围内放大音量的rap音乐，肯定没人会喜欢它。仅仅因为她们是友善的老太太就可以被原谅吗？答案显然是否定的，根本不应该这样。
海外华人
There are at least a hundred of them there, Whats even funnier is that There are elderly white and black dudes practicing with them. It's a sight to behold.
在我们当地的商场里，有一群年长的华人会聚集在那里练习太极拳，商场的建筑通常在早上8点开放，但里面的商店要到11点才开始营业，有至少一百多位老人参与其中，更有趣的是，还有一些年长的白人和黑人也加入其中一起练习，这真是一幅令人难忘的场景。
Ask the police if there is a noise ordinance?
问下警察是否有噪音管控条例。
ABChinese dude here. I think people should just live with the noise in a city. I get looks blasting traditional Chinese music like bro wtf you playing outta your ride. I get looks playing 90s gangsta ass rap. Like bro you trying to be hard? Different people will give you looks for different music. Parents are fine with me blasting Sam Hui but not Tupac. Good thing I don't care.
Fuck it as long as the cops are okay with it, I am blasting whatever the fuck I want. Country music. Ranchita. Wong fei hung or wuxia music. System of a down. Idgaf.
When I hear people blasting music, even if it is shit I don't like I am happy they are jamming out and enjoying that shit.
身为一个AB华人（美国出生的华人），我觉得在城市里生活就得习惯噪音。每次我在车里放传统中国音乐，总有人投来诡异的目光，好像在说“你到底在放什么东西？”而如果我换成90年代的硬核嘻哈，就又有人觉得我在假装酷。不同的人因为不同的音乐会用异样的眼光看你。比如我放许冠杰的时候我爸妈完全没意见，但要是我换成图派克（Tupac），他们就开始不满了。不过好在我完全不在乎。
只要警察没意见，我就会继续放我想放的任何音乐：乡村音乐、牧歌、黄飞鸿或者武侠音乐，还有 System of a Down（美国金属乐队），我才不管别人的看法。
每次听到有人在放音乐，不管是不是我喜欢的类型，我都会感到开心，因为他们似乎正在尽情享受属于自己的节奏。
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You’re in an urban park, not a nature preserve.
你身处一座城市公园，而不是自然保护区。
Urban parks are quite literally there to provide peace and respite from the urban bits around them, not to become just another urban space.
城市公园存在的意义恰恰是为了提供平静与休憩的场所，从周边的城市喧嚣中解脱出来，而不是变成另一个城市化的空间。
Fair point but volume has to be reasonable surely?
有道理，但音量肯定还是要适度吧？
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Well number one. Part of it is literally a nature preserve and there are city signs posted saying as much about how it's designed to be naturalized to preserve local animals and fauna. If that's your rebuttal then I counter with. You're in a park. Not a dance studio.
Secondly. An urban park with rap music blasting across a whole park is annoying and "disturbing the peace" just the same.
Don't lie to me. I know our culture. 20-50 black guys blasting rap music would not get such a hand waving attitude.
首先，第一点，这里实际上是个自然保护区，城市的标志牌已经明确说明了这一点，并强调此地是为了保护当地的动物和植物而进行的自然化设计。如果你想反驳，我的回应是：你是在公园里，而不是舞蹈工作室。
其次，一个城市公园里整片区域都在播放嘻哈音乐，这确实会让人觉得很烦人，并且构成了“扰乱公共安宁”的问题。
不要晃点我，我了解我们的文化。假如有二十到五十个黑人在公园里放着嘻哈音乐，情况绝对不会被如此轻松地忽略。
Go for a hike if you want solitude.
如果你想要独处，那就去野外徒步吧。
I don't need solitude. I just need to not be ear raped by music that can be heard streets away from my house.
You're defending an indefensible position because of some insecure need to defend everything about China. It's okay bro.
我并不需要孤独，我只是希望不要被那些能从我家外街道听到的音乐轰炸耳朵。
你在为一个无法辩护的立场辩护，只是因为某种不安全感驱使你要为中国的一切辩护。没关系，兄弟。
you are right
你说得对。
Old ladies dancing in the park is literally the best thing about China
在中国，老太太们在公园里跳舞简直是最美好的事情。
Can you call the cops?
你能报警吗？
I don't know what you mean by "our" culture, but if 20-50 black guys blast rap music in a park and all they're doing is dancing and socializing, I'm ok with it.
我不太明白你说的“我们的”文化是什么意思，但相比20到50个黑人在公园里放说唱音乐，而她们只是跳舞和社交的话，我没问题。
All I'm saying is you can do anything you want but we live in a society. It's a public park. By all means use it. But it's not any one groups park to monopolize.
I do not understand why this is so controversial
我只是想说，你可以做任何你想做的事情，但我们生活在一个社会里。这是一个公共公园，尽管可以随意使用，但它不是某一个群体可以独占的公园。我不明白为什么这会如此有争议。
So we follow the code.
所以我们遵循规则。
Non-Chinese
But there’s a lot of people that wouldn’t be and would absolutely call the cops who most likely would react very aggressively. This is America we’re talking about
不过还有很多人不会这么做，而是会直接报警，而警察很可能会采取非常激烈的行动。毕竟我们谈论的是美国。
I hope they're enjoying themselves and are making friends.
我希望他们过得愉快并且交到了朋友。
Idk tbh, I remember one time I got bored and Joined in. So there is a bunch of old Aunties and a random Uni student dancing in the park
老实说，我也不太清楚，我记得有一次觉得无聊就加入了。于是公园里就出现了一群大妈和一个随机的大学生一起跳舞的场景。
Well it’s good for their health.
这对他们的健康有好处。
I want to join them but I don't want to appear disrespectful
我想加入他们，但我不想显得不尊重。
Join them! My mom is part of a troupe of aunties dancing in the park, and whenever they get a non-Chinese joining them, it's really exciting.
加入他们吧！我妈妈参加了一个阿姨们在公园跳舞的团队，每次有非华裔人士加入都特别令人兴奋。
My guess is they'd be happy to have you join!
我想他们会很高兴欢迎你的加入！
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I think it’s great,
It’s free, they get to socialize and get some exercise.
Wish it’s acceptable here
我觉得这很棒，
免费，还能社交并进行一些锻炼。
希望在这里也能被接受。
My wife tells me that the woman who brings the music charges everyone a couple of rmb for her efforts. And often a few in the group who want to bring the music and get a few rmb will fight over who gets to. That’s one of the things I like about China, older people (like me) outside doing stuff in a public area.
我妻子告诉我，那位负责带音乐的女士会向每个人收取几块钱作为回报，而且经常有团体中的几个人争着要带音乐以赚取这些钱，这让我喜欢中国的一点是年纪大的老人比如我会在公共场所活动做些事情。
I've joined several groups and was never charged. There are some more formal groups with matching outfits, that look a bit more official.
我加入过几个团体，从未被收费过，有一些更正式的团体穿着统一的服装，看起来更像是官方组织。
海外华人
我看不出太极有什么不好的地方。
Being social and exercising is good. Join them.
社交和运动是很好的，快加入他们吧。
It has always been like that. This isn’t a new phenomenon by any means. It’s just a way to get some exercise and social interaction. It can be obnoxiously loud but it’s never really bothered me, personally.
情况一直是这样的，这绝不是一种新的现象，只不过是一种获得锻炼和社交互动的方式，虽然这种行为可能会过于吵闹，但对我个人来说并没有造成真正的困扰。
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It’s an amazing tradition. Promotes healthy elderly communities.
这是一个令人惊叹的传统，它推动了老年群体的健康发展。
Westerners find them amusing
西方人认为它们很有趣。
Good to health and kill time.
Noisy music is disturbing others only.
有益健康，打发时间。（竖大拇指）
吵闹的音乐只会干扰到别人。
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Isn’t it nice that these aunties can have some well organized fun dance close to their home?
这些大妈们能在家附近跳一些组织得井井有条的广场舞，难道不是很棒吗？
海外华人
这一直以来都在发生，我觉得这很棒。他们能够锻炼身体，也能够社交，完全没有什么不好的。
Lol, they all retire at 50. I mean, what else are you gonna do with your time? Not like the rest of us who retire 60+ I mean you get your best post-menopause years with nothing to do. I'd be dancing in the park as well if I were them.
哈哈，他们都在50岁退休。我是说，你还打算用时间做什么呢？不像我们这些60岁以上才退休的人，我是说，绝经后的最佳时光也没什么事情可做。如果我是他们，我也会去公园里跳舞的。
Good for them, it's a free, healthy, social activity. You can join them if you want
对他们来说很好，这是一个自由、健康且充满社交性的活动，如果你想的话也可以加入他们。
Here comes the HATING Western agent provocateurs again!
Go help the homeless people off the streets of the Western world and mind your OWN business! FFS!
又来了，这些充满恨意的西方煽动者！快去帮助那些西方社会街头的无家可归者，管好你自己的事吧，拜托了！
Well, group of people does group activities in the park is worldwide. It's no different than a group of kids playing basketball or a group of rich people playing golf
一群人在公园里做团体活动是全球性的，与一群孩子打篮球或一群富人打高尔夫没有什么不同。
Something we should emulate in other countries, along with the public exercise quipment that’s everywhere and the low retirement ages. I love how comfortable the oldies are in public spaces in China. In the West they seem much more isolated and housebound.
这是我们应该向其他国家学习的事情，比如随处可见的公共健身器材和较低的退休年龄。我很喜欢中国的老年人如何自在地生活在公共空间里，而在西方，他们似乎更加孤立，常常待在家里。
As long as they are not affecting other people there are more pros than cons.
只要他们没有影响到其他人，利大于弊。
I hope they're having fun and making new friends
我希望他们玩得开心，并结交新朋友。
大陆人
Only if they can play some not so cringe music and turn the volume down and not annoy me. 广场舞大妈以前可是扰民惹不起的典范
只有当他们能播放一些不那么尴尬的音乐并降低音量而不让我感到烦躁（才能接受）。
广场舞大妈以前可是扰民惹不起的典范
That is their right but don’t annoy another
那是他们的权利，但不要惹恼别人。
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I don’t spend much time thinking about it
我没有花太多时间去思考这件事。
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(German Chinese)德国华人
最佳的晚餐后散步娱乐活动。
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1 group is ok, 2 groups is ok if they spread up, 3 group or more is a noise hellhole, with each of them blasting a different song. That is just noise pollution
1个团体还好，2个团体如果分散开也还可以，但3个团体甚至更多简直就是噪音地狱，每个团体都播放不同的歌曲，这完全是噪音污染。
Nothing as long as they do it early enough? Sometimes I see students doing the same in parks or empty basketball courts. You just see it less because they have school (and other areas to dance.)
只要他们做得够早就没问题吧？有时候我看到学生们在公园或空旷的篮球场做同样的事情，只是你会看到得少一些，因为他们有学校（还有其他地方可以跳舞）。
We have this exact same thing in Bayside, Queens.
我们在皇后区的贝赛也有完全一样的东西。