特朗普政府为南非白人授予难民身份,此举引发美国社会对政策倾斜和种族双标的激烈讨论
White South Africans granted refugee status by Trump administration
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一架载有59名获得特朗普政府授予难民身份的南非白人的航班抵达美国。特朗普政府不仅决定接纳这些南非人,还加快了处理他们作为难民的流程,原因是所谓的歧视问题。同时,它暂停了所有其他难民安置工作,包括那些因战争和饥荒而逃离的人。
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A flight carrying a group of 59 White South Africans granted refugee status by the Trump administration arrived in the United States. The Trump administration has moved to not only admit but to expedite the processing of Afrikaners as refugees for alleged discrimination. At the same time, it has suspended all other refugee resettlement, including for people fleeing war and famine
一架载有59名获得特朗普政府授予难民身份的南非白人的航班抵达美国。特朗普政府不仅决定接纳这些南非人,还加快了处理他们作为难民的流程,原因是所谓的歧视问题。同时,它暂停了所有其他难民安置工作,包括那些因战争和饥荒而逃离的人。
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I just watched a rugby game in South Africa where a stadium full of white South Africans were singing the national anthem in native African languages. They seem pretty happy there lol
我刚看了一场南非的橄榄球比赛,比赛中一座满座的南非白人球迷在用本土非洲语言唱国歌。他们似乎在那里过得挺开心的,哈哈。
If White GENO.... is happening in South Africa then whats been happening in Gaza
如果南非正在发生白人种族灭绝,那加沙发生的算什么?
I am a white South African, and I am outraged and nauseated by the blatant racism and hypocrisy from both Trump and these opportunist bogus "refugees". It is true that there is some anti-white racist rhetoric doing the round amongst fringe groups, some of which can be seen in the comments, and there is some DEI-like discriminatory legislation that theoretically disadvantage whites under some circumstances. But in all the years since the end of Apartheid in 1994, I have not personally ever experienced racism against me as an Afrikaans white person, and not once has a white person been persecuted because of their race or political views, This bullsh*t is leaving a large segment of the public inside and outside of South Africa with an impression that all white Afrikaans people are either persecuted or racist. Shame on the racist Trump regime, and shame on this group of opportunists that jumped the emigration queue\\\\ ahead of other people, black and white, who have legitimately applied to emigrate to the US
我是一名南非白人,看到特朗普和这些机会主义的“难民”如此赤裸裸的种族主义和虚伪让我感到愤怒和恶心。确实,某些边缘群体中有一些反白人种族主义的言论,有时也可以在评论中看到,同时也有一些类似DEI(多元、平等、包容)法案的歧视性立法,理论上在某些情况下可能使白人处于不利地位。但自1994年种族隔离结束以来,我个人从未经历过针对我的种族歧视,作为一名南非白人,也从未有过白人因为他们的种族或政治观点而遭受迫害。这种胡说八道让南非国内外的一大部分公众产生了这样的印象:所有的南非白人要么是受到迫害,要么是种族主义者。可耻的特朗普政权,和那些跳过合法排队移民的机会主义者们——无论是黑白人,他们才是真正合法申请移民美国的人。
Racism wants more racism for support
种族主义需要更多种族主义来获得支持。
I am a white South African farmer living and farming in South Africa, no one is killing is us, Elon Musk is doing this because Starlix was denied license so they want to impose sanctions
我是一个南非白人农民,生活和耕种在南非,没人杀我们。埃隆·马斯克之所以这么做是因为Starlix的许可被拒绝,所以他们想要实施制裁。
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What about the South Sudanese!!! They've needed refuge for months! They are being murdered too... and displaced from their homes
那南苏丹人呢!!!他们已经几个月需要避难!他们也在被杀害……并且被迫离开家园。
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I'm South African, and most of my friends are Afrikaaners. There is no GENO..... There is no disproportionate amount of crime/violence against any particular group. My friends all have great jobs and families and are living an upper-class lifestyle. There are numerous Afrikaans universities and schools. There are Afrikaans music festivals every month. There are Afrikaans-only music stations, TV channels, and even a town, which is Afrikaans-only.
If the "mainstream media" ever needed more proof of a lying, racist administration, this is it!
Have you ever seen victims of GENO.... with beer bellies?
我是南非人,我的大多数朋友是非洲荷兰人。没有种族灭绝。没有针对任何特定群体的犯罪/暴力。我的朋友们都拥有很好的工作和家庭,过着上流社会的生活。南非有许多非洲荷兰语大学和学校,每个月都有非洲荷兰语音乐节。还有只播非洲荷兰语的音乐频道、电视台,甚至还有一个只允许讲非洲荷兰语的城镇。
如果“主流媒体”需要更多证据来证明这是一个撒谎的种族主义政府,那这就是证据!
你见过种族灭绝的受害者有啤酒肚的吗?
As a South African, I can assure you that today South Africa lost 49 racists who accepted this racist Trump Visa, and America has gained 49 racists from South Africa. good riddance
作为一名南非人,我可以向你保证,今天南非失去了49个接受特朗普签证的种族主义者,而美国则获得了49个来自南非的种族主义者,真是好 riddance。
And I bet the people that have been screeching about immigration will have no problem with this decision.
我敢打赌,那些一直在尖叫反对移民的人一定不会对这个决定有任何问题。
I'm a gay black man in South Africa and I must add that you may have forgotten these stats: white South Africans earn about 4 times more than blacks, they own 72% of land, they pay about 7-13% interest on loans while blacks pay between 15-18%
我是一个南非的黑人同性恋者,我必须补充一点,你可能忘记了这些统计数据:南非白人的收入是黑人南非人的大约4倍,他们拥有72%的土地,白人贷款的利率大约是7-13%,而黑人则支付15-18%的利率。
As a white South African, I can confidently say there is no white GENO.... happening in this country. I live a very comfortable life here, especially when compared to many black South Africans. Since 1994, not a single farm has been confiscated. Yet, among us, there are still those who long for the days of apartheid—not because of any failure in governance, but simply because they can’t accept black leadership. To my knowledge, no South African farmer has taken up Donald Trump’s so-called “offer” of asylum. Most of those who showed interest weren’t successful or employed to begin with, which is why they grabbed at that opportunity. The truth is, South Africa today is still deeply unequal, but not in the way many white narratives would have you believe.
作为一名南非白人,我可以自信地说,这个国家没有发生所谓的白人种族灭绝。我在这里过得很舒适,尤其是和许多黑人南非人相比。自1994年以来,没有一块农场被没收。然而,我们当中仍然有一些人怀念种族隔离时代——不是因为政府治理失败,而仅仅是因为他们不能接受黑人的领导。据我所知,没有南非农民接受特朗普所谓的“庇护”提议。大多数有兴趣的人不是没有成功就是没有工作,这也是为什么他们抓住了那个机会。事实是,今天的南非依然存在深刻的不平等,但并不像许多白人叙事所想象的那样。
No one is talking about the fact that this group of Afrikaners are not the majority of them but rather a splinter far right racist group headed by AfriForum and the AWB. Most white South Africans will stay in SA. But the right wing racist has been lobbying for all right wing forces in the world to unite. And the find support in Trump anf Musk.
没有人提到这一点,这群非洲荷兰人并不是大多数,而是一个极右翼种族主义小团体,由AfriForum和AWB领导。大多数白人南非人将留在南非。但是右翼种族主义者一直在游说世界上所有右翼力量联合起来,他们在特朗普和马斯克那里找到了支持。
My wife and I were just in SA for 3 weeks and noticed No hostility whatsoever from anyone, of course we were predominantly in the tourist & wildlife areas but everything went absolutely perfect and everyone was 100% pleasant & kind. We did observe thousands of healthy skinny South Africans of probable European heritage jogging around the more expensive housing coastal cities. Did not visit any farms just the gigantic Wildlife sanctuaries where tens of thousands of wildlife (some endangered) are protected from poachers and licensed hunters. “Refugees” seeking citizenship of All backgrounds almost always greatly exaggerate their fear of persecution.
我和我的妻子刚刚在南非待了3周,注意到这里根本没有任何敌意,当然我们大多待在旅游和野生动物区,但一切都非常完美,每个人都非常友好和热情。我们确实看到成千上万的健康、瘦弱的南非人,应该是欧洲血统的人,在一些更贵的沿海城市慢跑。我们没有去任何农场,只去了巨大的野生动物保护区,那里保护着成千上万种野生动物(包括一些濒临灭绝的物种),免受偷猎者和持牌猎人的侵害。寻求庇护的“难民”几乎总是夸大他们受到迫害的恐惧。
I'm an elderly white South African who joined the swathes of people at the Grand Parade to welcome Nelson Mandela as our new leader. Apartheid was appalling. There is no GENO.... in South Africa. Let's remember that Apartheid was implemented by white Afrikaans-speaking people. These are the very people who are now perpetuating bigotry and prejudice about 'GENO....' against them in South Africa. They tried to control South Africa through Apartheid. That hasn't worked over time. Now they are demanding special treatment in the US. Do not underestimate Elon Musk's influence in all of this. His forebears came to South Africa because they respected and supported Apartheid in this country, whilst many white people didn't.
我是一位年长的南非白人,曾加入人群,在大广场欢迎纳尔逊·曼德拉作为我们的新领导人。种族隔离政策令人无法忍受。南非没有种族灭绝。我们要记住,种族隔离政策是由讲非洲语的白人实施的。正是这些人现在在南非散布有关“种族灭绝”的偏见和仇恨。他们曾试图通过种族隔离来控制南非,但随着时间的推移,这并未奏效。如今,他们正在美国要求特殊待遇。不要低估埃隆·马斯克在这一切中的影响力。他的祖先来到南非,是因为他们尊重并支持该国的种族隔离政策,而许多白人并不认同这一点。
This is so hypocritical. America first but Americans last.
这真是太虚伪了。美国第一,但美国人排最后。
I wonder why they didn't seek refuge in the Netherlands
我想知道为什么他们当时没有寻求在荷兰避难。
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IF South Africa is committing a GENO.... against white Boere in Soutg Africa the US should refer the case to the ICJ. South Africa is a state party to the Rome Statute. If it chooses not to, we should be forgiven for thinking this is purely a gimmick, a ruse to besmirch South Africa for daring to take Israel to the ICJ.
如果南非对白人博尔人实施种族灭绝,美国应该将此案提交国际法院。南非是《罗马规约》的缔约国。如果它选择不这样做,我们有理由认为这纯粹是一个噱头,企图抹黑南非,因为它敢于将以色列告上国际法院。
As a white South African I’m embarrassed by this, I can guarantee these people have not been persecuted in any form. Truly shameless!
作为一名南非白人,我为此感到羞耻。我可以保证这些人没有受到任何形式的迫害。真是无耻!
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Why did the U.S. government not take steps to offer asylum or extradite Black South Africans during the Apartheid regime, given the systemic racial oppression and human rights violations they were facing?
为什么在种族隔离政权期间,美国政府没有采取措施为南非的黑人提供庇护或将他们引渡出去,考虑到他们面临的系统性种族压迫和人权侵犯?
Go down there.. and see if there's an actual GENO.... in South Africa.. interview people.. I want to know 4 million white South africans. Most of them live very well. Live in very prominent communities. Have lots of money own lots of businesses and corporations
去那儿看看…看看南非是否真的存在种族灭绝…采访一下当地人…我想知道400万南非白人的情况。他们中的大多数人生活得很好,住在很显赫的社区,拥有大量的财富,拥有很多企业和公司。
Consider what Trump dod to the farming communities across America. He's had a replacement plan all along. Especially for black American farmers.
想想特朗普对美国农场社区做了什么。他一直有一个替代计划,尤其是针对美国黑人农民。
I met a South African surfer in Bali. He told me the country's crime rate is high. But the whites live in the safest areas, and full of privileges.
He had even offered to take me around surfing spots if I ever have a chance to be in the country.
我在巴厘岛遇到了一位南非冲浪者。他告诉我,南非的犯罪率很高,但白人住在最安全的区域,享有很多特权。他甚至还提供如果我有机会去南非,可以带我去冲浪地点。
Place them on the South Side of Chicago- I'm sure there they will be warmly welcomed
把他们放在芝加哥的南区——我敢肯定他们会受到热烈欢迎。
I love this don’t pretend America, let the world know what we really are. Where is Tim Scott who said America is not a racist country?
我喜欢这样,别假装美国了,让全世界知道我们到底是什么样子。蒂姆·斯科特在哪里,他说过美国不是一个种族主义国家?
Real farmers here in SA even learn how to speak our languages cos we have put our differences aside and we appreciate their work.
We are facing crime together it ain't a matter of color i can be hijacked while leaving my home in the ghetto he can also face the same thing living his farm.. The only people who are safe are politicians..
The is no need to spread lies about targeted crimes
南非真正的农民甚至学会了说我们的语言,因为我们已经放下了分歧,欣赏他们的工作。我们一起面对犯罪,这与肤色无关,我可以在贫民区离开家时被劫持,他住在农场也可能面临同样的事情…唯一安全的人是政治家…没有必要传播关于有针对性的犯罪的谎言。
you cant use the word GENO.... for the palestines but this guy are experiencing GENO.......
你不能用“种族灭绝”来形容巴勒斯坦人,但这些人却在经历种族灭绝…
I grew up in SA at the height of the Apartheid regime. No way would I accept these people.
我在南非种族隔离制度最严重的时候长大。我绝对不会接受这些人。
Get your facts straights on land ownership in South Africa. Only 30% of land in south africa is owned by individuals, of which whites own 72% of that. This means they actually own 22% of land, not 80 %. Tibal lands, owned thourgh trusts accounts for 15% of land in South Africa, and individual black ownership is about 5%. So black South Africans own about 20% of land in South Africa, not 4 %. The state own the majority of land, about 25%.
搞清楚南非的土地所有权。南非只有30%的土地是个人拥有的,其中白人拥有72%。这意味着他们实际拥有22%的土地,而不是80%。部落土地通过信托机构拥有,占南非土地的15%,黑人个人拥有大约5%的土地。所以,南非的黑人拥有大约20%的土地,而不是4%。国家拥有大部分土地,大约25%。
This is an absolute disgrace and proves that the US doesn't have an idea of what's going on in RSA. I'm an Anglo who attended senior school in South Africa. If I were to list ethnic groups in Africa who are most at risk and deserve refugee status, Afrikaans people wouldn't be in the top 50.
这真是一个耻辱,证明美国根本不了解南非的情况。我是一个在南非上过高中的英国人。如果我要列出在非洲最需要庇护并且应该获得难民身份的族群,阿非利坎人绝对不会排在前50名。
It's heart warming to see all the conservative pundits online welcoming these asylum seekers. I'm sure they would do that for any asylum seekers.
看到所有保守派评论员在网上欢迎这些寻求庇护者,真是让人暖心。我敢肯定他们会对任何寻求庇护者做出同样的回应。
America is on the wrong side of history...
美国站在了历史的错误一边...
Sudan is nowhere near South Africa. The war in Sudan is thousands of miles away from South Africa.
苏丹距离南非远得很。苏丹的战争离南非有数千英里之遥。
It’s almost always their workers who end up killing them, which raises a serious question: how are these so-called “workers” actually being treated? Strangely, no one seems interested in investigating that side of the story. In South Africa, staging a crime scene isn’t exactly rocket science. It’s well documented how foreigners have traveled here to murder their spouses, so is writing an epithet on a wall really that far-fetched? Let’s be honest, the South African police struggle with basic competence, never mind solving complex crimes. We’re living in a banana republic. Call it what it is, but don’t insult our intelligence by calling it “discrimination.” That’s nonsense.
几乎总是他们的工人最终杀了他们,这提出了一个严重的问题:这些所谓的“工人”到底是怎么被对待的?奇怪的是,似乎没人愿意调查这个故事的另一面。在南非,伪造犯罪现场并不是火箭科学。外国人来到这里谋杀配偶的事情早有记载,那么在墙上写个碑文真的有那么离谱吗?说实话,南非警察连最基本的能力都没有,更别提解决复杂的犯罪了。我们生活在一个香蕉共和国。称它为它应该是什么样的,而不是愚弄我们的智商,说什么是“歧视”。那简直是胡说八道。
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This is disguising…I feel physically sick. I visited South Africa a few years ago doing humanitarian work and witnessed how Afrikaner’s treated my Black counterparts…they wouldn’t even look my counterparts in the eye…talked at them thought me (I’m white)…I’m sure there are some decent Afrikaners, but I didn’t meet one in my work there…this is blatant racism to get more MAGA, white supremest voters here for Trump…it is truly sickening.
这太令人恶心了……我几年前去南非做过人道主义工作,亲眼目睹了阿非利坎人如何对待我的黑人同事……他们甚至不敢看我的同事的眼睛……对我(我是白人)说话。我敢肯定,阿非利坎人中有一些是好人,但在我那里的工作中,我没有遇到一个。为了吸引更多特朗普的MAGA白人至上主义选民,这简直是赤裸裸的种族主义……真是令人作呕。
These are people who want to change their lives. Maybe they have had bad experiences and are looking for new opportunities. Many have done so. That doesn’t make you a victim of persecution. White SAns are NOT being persecuted!!
这些人是想改变他们的生活。也许他们经历过不好的事情,正在寻找新的机会。很多人已经这么做了。这并不意味着你是迫害的受害者。南非白人并没有受到迫害!!
Since they're in Texas, I hope elon will extend some American hospitality to them and completely support all of their needs with his own money...
既然他们在德州,我希望埃隆会向他们提供一些美国式的热情,并完全用他自己的钱支持他们的所有需求……
I'm South African and farm murders are drastically less than the normal murder rate in South Africa and yes South Africa has crime rate problem, but so everyone else.
The "Land expropriation without compensation act" simply states farmers should give a portion unused land to previously disadvantaged groups.They just dont want to live next door to ethnic group that's the jest of it all.
我是南非人,农场谋杀的发生率远低于南非的正常谋杀率,虽然南非确实有犯罪率问题,但其他地方也一样。 "无偿征地法案"仅仅是要求农民将一部分未使用的土地给以前被剥夺的群体。他们只是不想和某个族群住在隔壁,这就是问题的核心。
People, read an article written by a White journalist in South Africa today, in one of the most independent white owned news outlet, times live.
Chances are that these people will regret or will be visiting home soon. That said, we all would take the offer, after all, South Africa is having a crime and unemployment problem. We are all feeling it. Its not about a specific race. In fact, I personally voted for the historically Whiter political party in the last elections because South Africans have been moving on. If any of those people claimed that they have had their land confiscated, its a lie.
大家,今天读了一篇由一位白人记者在南非写的文章,发表在一家最独立的白人拥有的新闻媒体Times Live上。
这些人可能会后悔,或者很快就会回家。话虽如此,毕竟南非正在面临犯罪和失业问题,我们都能感受到这一点。这与特定种族无关。事实上,我个人在上次选举中投了历史上白人政治党的票,因为南非人已经在不断前进。如果那些人声称他们的土地被没收了,那就是谎言。
我不知道特朗普是否真的相信这些,但他们在玩政治游戏。我只是希望这不会引发目前尚不存在的种族暴力。别跟我说马莱马。大多数南非黑人已经离开了他的党派,因为他们厌倦了愤怒的政治。他们希望有政策能解决失业和犯罪问题,无论是对白人还是黑人来说。
Donald trump is racist person in the world, I'm here in South Africa n we have mixed races in South Africa no other country have in Africa,we all crying about crime all he head to do to press on high crime.The news is still correct about high crime hey I'm black n we leave side by side with different races
特朗普是世界上最种族主义的人,我现在在南非,我们这里有不同的种族群体,南非在非洲是唯一一个如此的国家。我们都在为犯罪而哭泣,他只需要加强对高犯罪率的关注。新闻报道依旧正确,犯罪率很高。我是黑人,我们与不同种族的人并肩生活。
These leaders and administration will need to look for a place in exile. They don't realize how bad their choices will have on their futures here. I can't see any of them living here happy. Now, they need to worry about which country will take Americans.
这些领导人和政府将不得不寻找一个流亡的地方。他们没有意识到他们的选择将对他们未来的生活产生多么严重的影响。我看不出他们中有谁能在这里过得开心。现在,他们需要担心哪个国家愿意接纳美国人。
If Trump wants to take issue with South African politics, then by all means, please do so, but utilise sanctions and tariffs and the like. But the 'refugee' status of these people is not warranted, an absolute disgrace.....and i'm a white South African. You are far more likely to be killed as a black South African than a white.....and THAT IS THE TRUTH. I am against much of what the ANC are and stand for, and i dont necessarily blame these people for taking the opportunity, but i can't agree with what TRUMP has done here. You cannot argue that there are not other people more deserving and under greater threat.
如果特朗普想对南非的政治提出问题,那他可以这么做,但应该采取制裁和关税等手段。但这些人的‘难民’身份根本不成立,这是个绝对的耻辱……而且我是一个南非白人。作为南非黑人,比作为白人更容易被杀害……这才是事实。我反对ANC的很多做法和立场,我也不一定责怪这些人抓住机会,但我无法认同特朗普在这里的做法。你不能说没有其他人更值得帮助,且面临更大的威胁。
I am a Black South African, and I do not support violence against anyone, White Afrikaners included. This kind of rhetoric is exactly why Malema is losing support. The majority of South Africans are deeply concerned about real issues like crime and unemployment. We are not naive enough to believe that these problems will be solved by targeting or blaming Afrikaners.
This kind of divisive politics needs to stop. It risks inciting actual violence against the very communities it claims to defend, and no rational Black South African wants that. We are not trying to recreate historical injustices in reverse.
我是一个南非黑人,我不支持对任何人,包括白人非洲人实施暴力。这种言辞正是马莱马失去支持的原因。大多数南非人都深切关注犯罪和失业等现实问题。我们并不是那么天真,认为通过针对或指责非洲裔白人就能解决这些问题。
这种分裂性的政治必须停止。它有可能引发真正的暴力,而这种暴力可能会针对它声称要捍卫的社区,没有理智的南非黑人希望看到这种情况。我们并不想重现历史上的不公正。
I earned my PhD in the United States. It wasn’t handed to me, I worked hard for it. And like many others from similar backgrounds, I’ve proven that I deserved that opportunity.
是的,南非有多样性、公平和包容(DEI)政策。我是其中一个受益者,但我也为我所拥有的每一个机会付出了努力。我来自一个历史上资源匮乏的背景,虽然这塑造了我的经历,但从未定义我的能力。只要有平等的机会,我们中的许多人已经证明自己能够竞争并且卓越。DEI只是给了我们一个公平的平台。
我在美国获得了博士学位。那不是别人施舍给我的,我为此付出了辛勤的努力。像我一样的许多人都证明了我们应得的机会。