网友讨论：美国公立学校为何破产？为何会接连倒闭，影响面有多大？
Why Public Schools Are Going Broke In The U.S.
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随着联邦疫情救助资金的耗尽和入学人数的持续下降，美国的公立学校正面临着严重的预算危机。
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U. S. public schools are facing a major budget crunch as federal pandemic relief money runs out and enrollment numbers continue to drop. Many districts added staff during the Covid era to address urgent needs, but with fewer students and no extra funding, those positions are no longer sustainable. Watch the video above to learn why school systems are being forced to cut staff and what that means for students and communities.
随着联邦疫情救助资金的耗尽和入学人数的持续下降，美国的公立学校正面临着严重的预算危机。在疫情期间，许多学区增加了员工以应对紧急需求，但由于学生人数减少且没有额外资金，这些职位已不再可持续。观看上面的影片，了解为什么学校系统被迫裁减员工，这对学生和社区意味着什么。
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I work in a school district.
The problem is the overpaid admins outnumbering the number of custodians, bus drivers, nutrition services.
95% of the “administration” have never set foot in a class room. I wish this was an exaggeration.
我在一个学区工作。
问题是，薪水过高的管理人员数量超过了清洁工、巴士司机、营养服务人员的数量。
95%的“行政人员”从未踏进过课堂。我希望这只是夸张。
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Basically, it's poor planning & poor judgement by a majority of those in charge. So, business as usual in America. A land where common sense is thrown out & will get you terminated.
基本上，这是大多数负责人糟糕的规划和判断。因此，美国的商业模式一如既往。一个常识被抛弃的国家，这样的常识会让你被解雇。
I can only imagine what it was like back when the country invested in education. Now there's less funding each year for schools and more tax cuts for the extremely rich. And more tax cuts. Then more tax cuts. And then more.
我只能想象那个国家曾经投资教育时的情况。现在，学校的资金每年都在减少，而对富人则是越来越多的减税。然后更多的减税，再然后更多。
How is the pension situation looking in Pasadena and other districts? Lots of state and local governments will pay a fortune for contracted services and admins just to avoid filling pension eligible positions.
帕萨迪纳和其他学区的退休金状况如何？许多州和地方政府会支付巨额费用给合同服务和管理人员，只为了避免填补符合退休金资格的职位。
"Walk back pay raises"? You don't get to do that. Why even say that? That is why teachers are quitting. I love seeing teachers quit. I wish more would. If our education is ever to improve, we'll need a real teacher shortage ( and a few other requirements).
Americans do not care about their kids at all! If we REALLY valued our children, we'd fund education.
“撤回加薪”？你不能这么做。为什么要这么说？这就是教师辞职的原因。我喜欢看到教师辞职。我希望更多的教师辞职。如果我们的教育要改善，我们就需要真正的教师短缺（以及一些其他条件）。美国人根本不关心自己的孩子！如果我们真心珍视我们的孩子，我们就会资助教育。
Public schools should be overflowing with money as high as property tax is here in texas ....its the highest line item on my bill
公立学校应该充满资金，特别是在德州这里，财产税这么高……这是我账单上最高的一项费用。
They need to stop wasting money on stuff they don't need and overpaid staff that doesn't pull their own weight.
他们需要停止浪费不必要的资金，尤其是在那些没有做出贡献的高薪员工身上。
Why is enrollment down? Expect multiple factors…. one is a waste of funds from “COVID”, administrative spending, outdated funding calculations , and a diminished confidence in the value of public education. Equation for disaster.
为什么入学人数下降？原因有很多……其中之一是“疫情”期间的资金浪费、行政开支、过时的资金计算方法，以及对公立教育价值的信任降低。这是灾难的方程式。
Start by getting rid of those overpaid "administrators" who do nothing, then give that money back to the teachers.
从那些不做事的高薪“管理员”开始，然后把那些钱返还给老师。
Too much administrators, not enough actual teachers.
Restructure the whole system now.
管理员太多，真正的教师太少。现在就重组整个系统。
It's not a "budget cut". It was temporary money to deal with a temporary problem... which wasn't used properly. If "pandemic" staff was needed, they shouldn't have been hired as full time staff, but rather as contracted workers on a fixed term contract
这不是“预算削减”。那是应对临时问题的临时资金……但没有被正确使用。如果“疫情”期间需要的员工，应该聘用临时工，而不是聘用全职员工。
I worked at a middle/high school with an enrollment of approximately 600 students. The school had a principal and three assistant principals with a combined salary of more than $500,000. Meanwhile the chemistry lab was extremely dangerous and an acident waiting to happen. When I asked for repairs they cried poor.
我曾在一所大约有600名学生的中学/高中工作。学校有一位校长和三位副校长，他们的总薪水超过50万美元。而与此同时，化学实验室极其危险，随时可能发生事故。当我要求修理时，他们却说资金不足。
Fire a minimum of half the overpaid Administrators and hire more quality teachers. Hold parents accountable for their children's continued education at home and their behaviors at school so parenting duties don't fall on those teachers.
解雇一半以上的高薪管理员，雇更多优秀的教师。让家长对孩子的持续教育和在校行为负责，这样父母的责任就不会落在教师身上。
Too many Administrators, focus on Athletics, and not paying teachers STEM more! Good luck finding a HS Physics teacher or Computer Science teacher with declining college students studying Education. Grants are not permanent fixes
管理员太多，过于注重体育，没把钱投入到STEM（科学、技术、工程、数学）教育上！随着选择教育专业的大学生减少，找到一位高中物理或计算机科学老师越来越难。资助不是长期解决方案。
in the 90's there was only 4-5 admins in my school, now the same school has around 40 admins.
90年代我的学校只有4-5位管理员，现在同一所学校有大约40位管理员。
The problem has and will always be administration staff. They are too many of them, they have ridiculous salaries (some earn more than public universities), do not know what they are doing at all. You only need a few of them to run budget and make sure money is paid out.
Money should always go to teachers, counselors, bus drivers and janitors. They are the ones that interact with the students everyday and actually run the school. Everyone else is support staff and its just bloated, poorly mismanaged and expensive. If that isn't fix, no amount of money or student enrollment will make any difference.
问题始终是行政人员。人数太多，薪水过高（有些人的薪水甚至超过了公立大学的水平），而且他们完全不知道自己在做什么。管理预算和确保款项支付的管理员就够了。资金应该优先投入到教师、辅导员、公交车司机和清洁工身上。因为他们每天与学生互动，才真正运营着学校。其他人只是支持人员，系统臃肿、管理不善且开销巨大。如果这个问题不解决，任何金额的资金或学生注册人数都无法改变现状。
Bad healthcare and a bad education system what can possibly go wrong
糟糕的医疗和糟糕的教育系统，能有什么可能出错的呢？
This is why only 40% of the kids can do mathematics because our teachers and administration don’t even know how to budget their own balance.
这就是为什么只有40%的孩子能做数学题，因为我们的教师和管理层甚至不知道如何管理自己的预算。
Most people who graduated in 1980 went to schools that now have half the number of students but 4 times the staff as before.
大多数1980年毕业的人上的是如今学生人数只有原来一半，但工作人员却是原来四倍的学校。
School admins need to be held accountable. Knowing the funds were temporary they moved forward with their spending. This in effort to pad their resumes with “accomplishments” completed between 2020-2024.
学校管理人员需要负责任。明知资金是暂时的，他们还是继续推进开支。这样做是为了在2020到2024年之间为自己的简历增加一些“成就”。
This video just began to scratch the surface.
CNBC needs to explore how top-heavy many of these districts have become along with how much they've managed to pay themselves with no actual benefits to the districts! This also includes teachers on special assignment being improperly used
这个视频只是触及了表面。
CNBC需要深入探讨这些学区在管理层层级过重的同时，他们自己获得了多少薪酬，却对学区没有实际好处！这也包括被不当使用的特殊岗位教师。
Quality of education is TRASH IN America unfortunately
美国的教育质量可悲地很差。
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It’s injudicious that we had to just make up jobs that weren’t in demand just to make people feel important instead of making them work in fields that were in demand.
为了让人们感到重要，我们竟然创造了些没有需求的职位，而不是让他们从事有需求的行业，这种做法真是愚蠢。
We spend more money per student than any other country but our outcomes are horrible. Spending more money is not the answer.
我们每个学生的花费比任何其他国家都多，但我们的结果却很糟糕。多花钱不是解决问题的办法。
What a beautiful country. Bad education system, bad health care system, bad retirement system and now an administration in Washington that raises tax on all imports … resulting in high inflation and lay offs in manufacturing
真是一个美丽的国家。糟糕的教育系统，糟糕的医疗系统，糟糕的退休系统，现在华盛顿的政府还提高了所有进口商品的税收……导致高通胀和制造业裁员。
If public schools now have more teachers yet fewer students then shouldn't the quality of education increases as smaller class sizes = more time/attention spent on each student, like in private schools?
如果公立学校现在有更多的教师，但学生人数却更少，那么是不是应该提高教育质量呢？因为小班教学意味着每个学生可以获得更多的时间和关注，就像私立学校一样？
We have friends who are public school teachers, and they send their kids to private school. I find it very interesting that they are funding their own demise.
我们有朋友是公立学校的教师，他们把孩子送到私立学校。我觉得很有意思，他们自己资助了自己的灭顶之灾。
Get rid of administrative roles. Schools school be spending the most on teachers.
取消行政职务。学校应该把大部分经费用在教师身上。
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But aren't a lot of teachers leaving the profession due to burnout.
但很多教师因为职业倦怠而离开这个行业，不是吗？
It doesn’t help that many people are leaving the state because of high living costs.
很多人因为高昂的生活成本离开这个州，这也没有帮助。
It sucks people are losing their jobs but if you have more staff than needed. then you need to cut staff. That is the basics at its core. If you get more students and you need more staff then you hire more. This is not a situation where you do not have enough money for the staff that is needed
很糟糕的是人们失去了工作，但如果你的员工超过了需求，那就必须裁员。这是最基本的原则。如果学生多了，需要更多员工，那就雇佣更多人。这并不是因为没有足够的钱雇佣需要的员工。
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The local school district publishes the salaries. The top twenty or more are administrators.
当地学区会公布工资。排名前二十或更多的是管理员。
Reduce the compensation your administrators are getting as well as the number of them, reduce the number of conferences, digitize your communications for students/teachers, and introduce team teaching.
减少管理员的薪酬和数量，减少会议次数，数字化学生和教师的沟通，并引入团队教学。
At this point the whole Public School system will be shut down and a new system will have to replace it. Its been so outdated since the Industrial age.
在这个时候，整个公立学校系统可能会关闭，必须有一个新的系统来取而代之。自工业时代以来，它已经过时了。
Nobody can afford to raise a family in California anymore. That's why they've seen a bigger drop in students than the national average.
现在没有人能在加利福尼亚养家了。这就是为什么他们的学生人数下降比全国平均水平还要大。
So basically schools manage their money like your average NBA player.
基本上，学校管理钱的方式就像普通的NBA球员一样。
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My greatest concern is how to recover from all these economic and global troubles and stay afloat especially with the political power tussle going on in US.
我最担心的是如何从这些经济和全球性的问题中恢复过来，并在美国的政治权力斗争中保持生存。
Send the laid-off teachers to Texas! Our district is sourcing teacher candidates from Mexico even for non-Spanish related subjects!
Teacher shortage, teacher surplus, which the heck is it?! This is an alarmist video that counters the actual trend of the fact that we don’t have enough qualified teachers in this country. The problem is NOT too many teachers per funded dollar.
把被裁掉的老师送到德州吧！我们学区甚至在为非西班牙语相关科目寻找来自墨西哥的教师候选人！
是教师短缺还是教师过剩？！这是一段危言耸听的视频，反驳了实际的趋势——我们国家没有足够的合格教师。问题不在于每个资助的美元是否有太多教师。
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Most of the excessive school district hiring is for administrative jobs, not educators
大多数过多的学区招聘是行政职位，而不是教育职位。
If there are less students, layoff is the obvious answer so I don't get the issue there. If you moved to place with bad underfunded school, that's on you. School rating should be one of the biggest consideration when buying a house if you have kids.
如果学生减少，裁员是显而易见的解决办法，所以我不理解那里有什么问题。如果你搬到一个资金不足的学校地区，那是你的选择。购买房子时，如果有孩子，学校评级应该是最大的考虑因素之一。
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Not just the number of student's...funding is also based on property values...thats one of the reasons for "red lining" to due and defund basic service....its also why public schools in high value real estate areas such as Aspen colorado are world class.
不仅仅是学生数量……资金也与房产价值挂钩……这也是“红线”现象的原因之一，它贬低并削减了基本服务的资金……这也是为什么像科罗拉多州阿斯彭这样高价值房地产区的公立学校世界一流的原因。
We pulled our kids out of school and are now homeschooling. Our community homeschool has great teachers, wonderful community involvement, and we have better control of what is being taught. This cost us less than the cost per student in the public schools.
我们把孩子从学校拉出来，现在在家教育。我们的社区家庭学校有优秀的老师，出色的社区参与，我们对教学内容有更好的控制。这花费比公立学校每个学生的成本还要低。
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Some NY districts have 40 different administrators within a 10-mile radius but the teachers unx fights tooth and nail to keep from consolidating. Their solution, raise taxes again and again.
纽约一些学区在10英里半径内有40个不同的行政人员，但教师工会竭力反对合并。它们的解决方案是一次又一次地提高税收。
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This video needs to be retitled, "Why Pasadena Schools and many California schools are going broke."
这个视频应该重新命名为：“为什么帕萨迪纳学校和许多加州学校正在破产。”
These unxs are the reason no one wants to make anything here or hire.
这些工会是为什么没人愿意在这里生产或雇佣的原因。
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Do adults just like... forget about childhood altogether? Every lawmaker, administrator, even teacher, went through school in their childhood. It makes no sense why it seems like they have no idea what's going on.
成年人难道就...完全忘记了童年吗？每个立法者、管理员，甚至是老师，小时候都上过学。为什么他们好像完全不知道发生了什么，简直没道理。
Can you add on the curve, the performance of students in relation to funds and administrative budget increased?
你能加上一个曲线，展示学生的表现与资金和行政预算增加之间的关系吗？
Mismanagement of funds should be a crime if deemed unsustainable without future funding over a 5 year period.
如果资金管理不善，并且在没有未来五年资金支持的情况下无法维持，那应该被视为犯罪。
How is Texas still building $50 million+ high school football stadiums in a deficit?
为什么德州在财政赤字的情况下，还在建造价值超过5000万美元的高中足球场？
Why does the US even need public schools when children are going to be sent back to work in the factories to reduce cost of wages so the US manufacturing can compete with Asia and Latin America? How much schooling do you need to use a loom or a lathe?
美国为什么需要公立学校？因为孩子们最终会被送回工厂工作，以降低工资成本，这样美国的制造业才能与亚洲和拉丁美洲竞争。用织布机或车床工作，你需要多少学校教育？
Smart children will learn more effectively without being caged and chained to desks each weekday all day long. They are the future.
聪明的孩子如果不被困在桌子旁整天上课，学习效率会更高。他们才是未来。
I think that there is a typo in the title of this video, I’m pretty sure it is supposed to be “WHY PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE GOING BROKE IN CALIFORNIA”
我认为这个视频标题有个错别字，我确定应该是“为什么加利福尼亚的公立学校破产”。
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We are blessed to be able to homeschool, but the school system gets our tax dollars and don't have our child in school to spend it on. I know a number of folks who don't have kids in school also pay, so where is this money without a student to spend it on going? None of it helps us buy software, textbooks, lab supplies, etc.
我们很幸运能进行家庭教育，但公立学校系统却拿我们的税款，却没有将孩子送到学校用这些钱。我知道很多没有孩子上学的人也在缴税，那么没有学生的这些钱到底去了哪里？这些钱也没有用来给我们购买软件、教材、实验用品等。
Another issue is the imbalance in physical facilities. Older facilities have not been maintained and are in shrinking areas but not enough decrease in enrollment to consolidate. Families who have kids are not moving to the older neighborhoods. So those areas they do move to have to build schools.
另一个问题是设施的不平衡。老旧的设施没有得到维护，而这些区域的学生数量在减少，但没有足够的入学人数来合并学校。有孩子的家庭不会搬到这些老旧的社区。所以那些有孩子的家庭搬到的地区需要建设新的学校。
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I want to do school online. I don't want to be forced to show up every day 8am to 3:30pm all day at school classes. I want to have all assignments at the beginning of class season and go on my pace as it would be finished by end of the semester or sooner. However, I do think moving to online would help with costs by tremendously amount. Don't cut all because it's good to get advice from teachers. I mean dude think at this scale how much fuel we would save, thats for sure quite a lot.
我想要上网课。我不想每天早上8点到下午3:30被迫去学校上课。我希望能在学期开始时就拿到所有作业，然后按照自己的节奏完成，可能在学期结束前就完成了。然而，我确实认为转向在线学习可以大幅降低成本。不要全部削减，因为向老师请教还是有好处的。我的意思是，想象一下，如果规模达到这种程度，我们节省多少燃料，肯定会节省不少。
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A major issue is that students today need so many more services than they used to: mental health, food, medicine, academic intervention, etc. this means rising overhead costs for schools to meet these needs for a shrinking population. I work at a school where maybe 10 kids in the entire building (about 600 kids) are at grade level for math. We NEED math intervention desperately to get these kids the knowledge and skills they need in the workforce - even trade schools! Losing the funding means that we cannot hire anyone for those positions and have to let go of non-core staff; all of which comes back and means that the kids do not get an education.
一个主要问题是，现在的学生需要的服务比以前多得多：心理健康、食物、药物、学业干预等等。这意味着学校为了满足这些需求的开销不断增加，而人口却在减少。我在一所学校工作，整栋楼里大约600个孩子，只有大约10个孩子的数学成绩达到年级水平。我们迫切需要数学干预，帮助这些孩子获得他们进入职场所需的知识和技能——即使是职业学校！资金减少意味着我们无法聘请相关人员，只能解雇非核心员工；所有这些都会影响孩子们的教育。
So “public schools” in the title = “California”
所以标题中的“公立学校”指的是“加利福尼亚”。
Schools are as understaffed as they've ever been with actual teachers, paraprofessionals, aids, bus drivers, and other on -the-ground, student-facing staff. Administration is bloated and has no background in child development at all and makes decisions based on optics instead of long term, child-centered, educational goals. What could possibly be the matter, here?
学校在实际教师、助教、辅导员、公交车司机以及其他直接面对学生的员工方面的人员短缺达到了前所未有的程度。管理层臃肿，根本没有儿童发展背景，做决策时更多考虑的是外部形象，而不是长期的、以儿童为中心的教育目标。问题到底出在哪里呢？
School districts spend millions per year on educational consultants. School board members in most states are allowed to work for these educational consultants.
And most educational consultants are multi state corporations or even international
学区每年花费数百万美元请教育顾问。在大多数州，学区董事会成员被允许为这些教育顾问工作。大多数教育顾问公司都是跨州甚至国际性的。
Permanent programs and staffing with limited funds. Also, mismanagement of the funds created the issues in my city. Now we've been hit up for over $300 million additional property tax levies in the last 5 years.
在资金有限的情况下，保持长期的项目和人员配置。此外，资金的管理不当导致了我们城市的问题。现在我们已经在过去5年中为了额外的3亿美元财产税征收而被迫接受。
In texas, out of state billionaires donated money to state republicans to divert tax funds from public schools to private ones.
This video mention anything like that?
在德州，外州的亿万富翁向州内的共和党捐款，将税收资金从公立学校转移到私立学校。这个视频提到过类似的事情吗？
Of course, normal families are switching to private or homeschooling or moving out of states like California and New York.
当然，正常的家庭正在转向私立学校或家庭教育，或者搬出像加利福尼亚和纽约这样的州。
I feel like whoever made the decisions to spend the extra money instead of managing it better should be fired first.
我觉得那些决定花费额外资金而不是更好地管理资金的人应该先被解雇。
Same thing with higher education. It's government handouts, people hiring more people, as the budget goes up up up. No thought about reducing costs.
高等教育也是一样。政府的补助金，雇佣更多人，预算越来越高。根本没有考虑削减成本。
Too much staff, but a shortage of teachers. Does excess staff include teachers? If not, what do they do? In recent years, many administrative positions were added that may have been justified by increasing enrollments, but now, because enrollments are declining, they are not needed, but once an organization has become accustomed to diluting responsibilities, it is hard to change. The same situation exists in higher education where much of the teaching has been relegated to part-time adjunct faculty who are paid about half of what full time faculty are paid to teach even though they are required to have the same qualifications, and who have few or no benefits. The savings have gone to increasing administrative staff with diluted responsibilities.
员工太多，但教师短缺。多余的员工包括教师吗？如果不是，那他们做什么？近年来，增加了许多行政职位，这些职位可能是由于入学人数的增加而设立的，但现在由于入学人数下降，这些职位变得不再需要。然而，一旦一个组织习惯了分散责任，就很难改变。高等教育也存在同样的情况，很多教学工作已经委托给兼职的外聘教师，这些教师的薪酬是全职教师的一半，尽管他们需要拥有相同的资格，并且几乎没有任何福利。这些节省下来的资金却被用来增加行政人员，责任变得更加分散。
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It's very wild that most of the people talking in this are doing everything except discussing the actual cost and like one individual stated that there was temporary funding that then expired and The school did not remove that expenditure or cancel it.
很奇怪，几乎所有讨论这个问题的人都在讨论其他问题，除了实际的成本问题，就像有个人提到过的那样，曾有临时资金支持，但资金到期后，学校并没有取消这些开支。
No wonder the kids who graduate from here know nothing about planning or Budgeting.
难怪这里毕业的孩子什么都不懂规划或预算。