能否肯定的说，中国领先印度至少30年？
Is it safe to say that China is at least 30 years ahead of India?
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等等，别难过，我们并非事事都落后。我们咬了中国，把他们赶下了榜首。猜猜是什么？
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Ravi
Really just 30 years?
You have an economy of 4 trillion and China has 19 trillion almost 5 times ahead.
You are waiting for a fighter jet engine for a year to make your 4th gen fighter aircraft ready whereas China made the world stun by flying sixth-generation aircraft in the sky.
You are making and promoting the Astro app where as China made Nividia share crash through its Deepseek AI model.
Instead of the tag of the youngest country India failed to establish a manufacturing industry where as China is referred to as the world’s factory.
China manufactures 50% world's EV cars and operates more than 25% of EV cars on its roads where whereas India struggles to have even 2% of EV cars on Indian roads.
India is still waiting for its first bullet train on track even though technically supported by Japan whereas China operates the world's largest bullet train network.
《能不能说中国领先印度至少30年？》
真的才30年吗？
你们的经济4万亿美元，而中国经济19万亿美元，几乎是前者的5倍。
你们在等待战斗机发动机一年，为第四代战斗机做好准备，而中国却让第六代战机翱翔天际，震惊世界。
你们在开发和推广Astro应用程序，而中国却通过其Deepseek人工智能模型让英伟达的股价暴跌。
所谓的最年轻的国家，印度——未能建立起制造业，而中国被称为世界工厂。
中国生产了全球50%的电动汽车，并在其道路上行驶着超过25%的电动汽车，而印度甚至连2%的电动汽车在道路上行驶都举步维艰。
印度仍在等待其首列高铁的通车，尽管它得到了日本的技术支持，而中国却运营着世界上最大的高铁网络。
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China produces world 50% smartphones and 70% lithium batteries whereas India produces? Do you still remember Micromax phone is being manufactured or not?
China city can give a tough challenge to European developed country cities in terms of infrastructure whereas India lags basic needs.
China won 91 total medals in the Paris Olympics where whereas India in the history of the Olympics managed just 41 medals.
Wait don’t get sad we are not behind in everything. We have bitten China and kicked them out of the top position. Any guess in what?
Yes correct population! Yes, we have more poor, unemployed, unskilled, and uncivilized people compared to them.
中国生产了全球50%的智能手机和70%的锂电池，而印度却在生产……你还记得Micromax手机还在生产吗？
中国城市在基础设施方面可以对欧洲发达国家的城市构成严峻挑战，而印度在基本生活需求方面却落后。
中国仅在巴黎奥运会上就获得91枚奖牌，而印度在奥运会历史上也才获得41枚奖牌。
等等，别难过，我们并非事事都落后。我们咬了中国，把他们赶下了榜首。猜猜是什么？
没错，人口！没错，我们的穷人、失业者、无技能者、未开化者比他们多。
China city can give a tough challenge to European developed country cities in terms of infrastructure whereas India lags basic needs.
China won 91 total medals in the Paris Olympics where whereas India in the history of the Olympics managed just 41 medals.
Wait don’t get sad we are not behind in everything. We have bitten China and kicked them out of the top position. Any guess in what?
Yes correct population! Yes, we have more poor, unemployed, unskilled, and uncivilized people compared to them.
中国生产了全球50%的智能手机和70%的锂电池，而印度却在生产……你还记得Micromax手机还在生产吗？
中国城市在基础设施方面可以对欧洲发达国家的城市构成严峻挑战，而印度在基本生活需求方面却落后。
中国仅在巴黎奥运会上就获得91枚奖牌，而印度在奥运会历史上也才获得41枚奖牌。
等等，别难过，我们并非事事都落后。我们咬了中国，把他们赶下了榜首。猜猜是什么？
没错，人口！没错，我们的穷人、失业者、无技能者、未开化者比他们多。
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Best answer to compare india and China.
印中比较里最好的答复。
作为一个中国人，我一直相信印度是一个伟大的国家。它早已超越美国，成为超级大国，将我们远远甩在后面
我也是中国人，他说的很对，中国人都承认印度的领导地位，未来的世界是印度的。
I think China is more advanced than us is because they don't waste time in bullshit like this, they go practical.
我认为中国比我们先进是因为他们不会在这种废话上浪费时间，而是注重实际。
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India and China are in different league and comparisons are meaning less. China is competing with US , not with India. Deep seek is an eye opener about the competitive edge that China is likely to gain , in coming years. We are ‘under’ and ‘slow’ achievers, who haven't worked , to our potential , weighed down by legacy baggage. Let us not compare , but adopt their best practices.
印度和中国完全不同，比较毫无意义。中国是在与美国竞争，而不是与印度。Deepseek让我们看到了中国未来几年可能获得的竞争优势。我们成就“不足”且“缓慢”，没有充分发挥潜力，背负着历史包袱。我们不应该比较，而应该学习他们的最佳实践。
The key best practice really is to see how China defeated extreme poverty as a collective effort between govt, corporations, villages, etc.
关键的最佳实践实际上是看看中国如何通过政府、企业、村庄等的共同努力战胜极端贫困。
The best thing to do for India is to expand its manufacturing base and use its huge technical manpower to concentrate on R& D and innovation , like China. GOI is doing a lot of multiple poverty alleviation programs on a huge scale , but real solution is to make people employable and create job opportunities.
对印度来说，最好的办法是像中国一样，扩大其制造业基础，并利用其庞大的技术人力专注于研发和创新。印度政府正在大规模地实施多项扶贫计划，但真正的解决方案是提高人们的就业能力，创造就业机会。
Always the intent decades ago…. we waited and waited, but in so many things, India under delivered, not even in software when once we thought India could be a lead decades ago. Even India’s data is housed and controlled by the US or the west. I’m sure India is trying hard on poverty alleviation with some successes. I visited India many times…. for a start, I simply want to see an India where food insecurity is beaten first
几十年前的目标始终如一……我们等了又等，但在很多方面，印度都未能兑现承诺，甚至在软件领域也是如此，而几十年前我们曾认为印度可以领先。甚至印度的数据也被美国或西方国家存储和控制。
我相信印度正在努力减贫，并取得了一些成功。我曾多次访问印度……首先，我只是想看到一个首先解决粮食不安全问题的印度。
India should compared themselves with Indonesia instead.
印度应该首先跟印尼比
If India can abolish its existing caste systems where most of the issues holding India poor and backward will give India a good starting position to develop and prosper into a more developed society. Everyone in the world including yourselves knows that India has brain power to do it.
如果印度能够废除现有的种姓制度，消除阻碍印度贫穷落后的诸多问题，印度将拥有一个良好的起点，从而发展繁荣，迈向更发达的社会。包括你们在内的全世界所有人都知道，印度拥有做到这一点的智慧。
India needs to incorporate honesty among its citizens,that will fix 90 % of the problem
印度需要让公民变得诚实，这将解决 90% 的问题
The OLD EASY way to Glorify China and Admonish India….
China is Numero Uno in the ENTIRE WORLD, the only Superpower USA has fallen behind, Russia is no match, Europe has become dependent on China even for cleaning their arses (Toilet paper).
So what?
India is My, Your, Our Country. Not just a country OUR MOTHERLAND. A place to Live and a place to DIE FOR.
PROBLEM of India is INDIANS (WE).
We bring Governments of Lalu-Rabri, Kejriwal etc for PETTY GAINS. We can't think beyond “Me and My Family”. We think Reservation is “OUR BIRTHRIGHT”. We Pollute, Deface, Rob, Spit and worse of ALL ABUSE our Motherland … Can you DO THE SAME in CHINA? You would DISAPPEAR IN THIN AIR overnight, NO TRACES!!!! Your Family will Shiver to take your name…
Come to SENSES, China is NOT offering Free Citizenships to us(Never it will), IMPROVE OUR ONLY COUNTRY. Even and Ugly Mother is the Most Beautiful mother a Child can get…
Be The Change You Want To See In Your Country…
美化中国、谴责印度的老套路……
中国是全世界的头号强国，唯一的超级大国美国已经落后，俄罗斯根本不是对手，欧洲甚至连擦屁股（厕纸）都依赖中国。
那又怎样？
印度是我的，你的，我们的国家。不仅仅是一个国家，更是我们的祖国。一个值得居住的地方，一个值得为之献身的地方。
印度的问题在于印度人（我们）。
我们为了些微的利益，造就了拉鲁-拉布里、凯杰里瓦尔等等政府。我们只能考虑“我和我的家人”。我们认为预留制是“我们与生俱来的权利”。我们污染、污损、抢劫、吐痰，更糟糕的是，我们虐待我们的祖国……你能在中国做同样的事情吗？你会一夜之间消失得无影无踪！！！！你的家人会因为要用你的名字而瑟瑟发抖……
清醒一点，中国不会给我们提供免费公民身份（永远不会），改善我们唯一的国家吧。即使是丑陋的母亲，也是孩子能拥有的最美丽的母亲……
成为你想看到的国家改变的那个人……
India needs a cultural revolution like China. They ditched their religion and traditions and adopted modern science. But in India our whole politics is based on Gods and religion. And we have our holy caste system.
印度需要像中国那样的文化革命。他们抛弃了宗教和传统，接受了现代科学。但在印度，我们的整个政治都建立在神灵和宗教的基础上。而且我们还有神圣的种姓制度。
First religion holds India back. Using Crore and Laks is also confusing to the rest of the world by placing the comma after two zeros etc. Corruption is the culture. Maintenance is not embedded in India. All we see are temporary bright colours.
首先，宗教阻碍了印度的发展。使用Crore 和 Laks作为单位，也会让世界其他国家感到困惑，此外还有逗号放在两个零后面等等。
腐败是文化。维护在印度根深蒂固。我们看到的只是暂时的光明。
I'm not interested in comparing countries based on material progress like mobile phones, fast trains, GDP, or fighter jets. What's the point of development if we're destroying our planet?
Global warming, climate change, plastic pollution, deforestation, and fossil fuel consumption are ravaging the earth. Glaciers are melting at an alarming rate, and jungles are being cleared. Yet, we're obsessed with comparing nations.
Let's focus on preserving our planet instead of blindly pursuing development. I hope the future isn't bleak. Let's not ruin this beautiful world.
我对根据物质进步（例如手机、高铁、GDP或战斗机）来比较国家不感兴趣。如果我们正在毁灭地球，发展还有什么意义？
全球变暖、气候变化、塑料污染、森林砍伐和化石燃料消耗正在摧毁地球。冰川正在以惊人的速度融化，丛林正在被砍伐殆尽。然而，我们却痴迷于比较国家。
让我们专注于保护地球，而不是盲目追求发展。我希望未来不要黯淡。让我们不要毁掉这个美丽的世界。
Economy of china was around 4 trillion in 2007 , i don't think we are behind more than 20 years . Lets watch what happens next.
2007年中国经济规模约为4万亿，我认为我们落后的时间不会超过20年。让我们拭目以待接下来会发生什么。
Factually, it is light years behind
Per Capita income which reflects actual standard of living is as below:
China:$12,969 as of 2023
India: $2,940 as of 2023.
It is literally 5 times, when compared to behemoth of country with largest population, literally even if India starts growing in double digits and China stops growing literally from today.
you do the math the number of years it takes to catch up, both the above scenarios are as impossible as finding advanced human civilisation in Jupiter, today itself. You got the perspective?
Still you think it takes only 20 years for India to grow 5 times and China stops growing , effective immediately?
as on 2045 Jan 1st morning, India per capita income will be
$ 13000 and China’s will still be $12969? It is not even worthy to be a joke.
What may be possible is , India may hit $13000 Per capita( which is almost impossible, but still to agree with you to make you feel as winner), China’s Per Capita will hover around $50000, ( which is almost a reality). So the % gap still remains, but moved to different positions, absolutely.
事实上，它落后了数光年。
反映实际生活水平的人均收入如下：
中国：截至2023年为12,969美元
印度：截至2023年为2,940美元。
即使印度开始以两位数增长，而中国从今天起停止增长，印度仍然是后者的五分之一，你算算印度要花多少年才能赶上中国，上述两种情况都如同在木星上找到先进的人类文明一样不可能。你明白了吗？
你还认为印度只需20年就能增长5倍，而中国会立即停止增长吗？到2045年1月1日早上，印度的人均收入将达到13,000美元，而中国仍然是12,969美元？这简直不值得开玩笑。
可能的是，印度的人均收入可能达到1.3万美元（这几乎不可能，但我还是同意你的说法，好让你觉得自己是赢家），而中国的人均收入将在5万美元左右徘徊（这几乎是现实）。所以，百分比差距仍然存在，但绝对已经转移到了不同的位置。
you can not predict the future on these simple calculation , japans GDP was 4 trillion 20 years back it still is around 4.5 trillion , why? how? lots and lots of factors cone into play china has build itself due to tremendous american and west investments which they are repenting now but future is not predictable , just hope for the best
你无法通过这些简单的计算来预测未来。日本20年前的GDP是4万亿，现在仍然是4.5万亿左右，为什么？怎么会这样？很多很多因素都在起作用。
中国依靠美国和西方的巨额投资实现了自身建设，但现在他们正在后悔，但未来是不可预测的，只能祈祷一切顺利。
We are comparing it on today's term not future terms , secondly china’s per capita gdp is less than mexico , does that make mexico is more powerful than china . There are so many countries in europe more than per capita gdp that of china does than mean china is shit hole compare to europe . To reach per capita gdp of 30,000 china needs to have atleast 45 trillion dollars economy. Is that even possible?
我们是在用现在的眼光来比较，而不是用未来的眼光来比较。
其次，中国的人均GDP低于墨西哥，这能说明墨西哥比中国强大吗？欧洲那么多国家的人均GDP都高于中国，这能说明中国跟欧洲比起来简直就是个粪坑吗？中国要达到人均GDP3万，经济总量至少得达到45万亿美元。这可能吗？
simple gdp doesnt explain anything
u take one look at the beijing in 2007 and its still a stark difference compared to indian ones
i suggest using gdp percent of world as a measure of economy
单纯的GDP并不能解释一切事情。
看看2007年的北京，它与印度相比仍然有着显著的差异。
我建议用GDP占世界比重来衡量经济。
By that means dubai city is better than Beijing, does that mean UAE is more advance than china ? There are so many cities like tokyo , Melbourne, Seoul are more livable than Beijing. I don't think any statistics do justice, economy of countries are more complex to understand so i think we should not make comparisons with naivety like KB
照这么说，这意味着迪拜比北京好，是不是意味着阿联酋比中国更先进？东京、墨尔本、首尔等许多城市都比北京更宜居。我认为任何统计数据都无法公正地衡量一个国家的经济状况，理解起来更加复杂，所以我认为我们不应该像KB那样天真地进行比较。/大笑
Even China had similar population and basic civic culture is almost same, but in India none of the governments are doing anything to greatly focus on public skills and education. More education will create better job opportunities. Problem of Indians is that we don’t value jobs equally, we are like why an educated person will clean the sewer and streets but in countries like China and Japan it’s civic duty. While in America several volunteers take up this duty daily and court orders minor offenders to civic duties without pressing charges.
即使中国人口基数相仿，基本公民文化也几乎相同，但印度政府却没有大力重视公共技能和教育。更多的教育才能创造更好的就业机会。
印度人的问题在于，我们对待工作的态度并不平等，我们不明白为什么受过教育的人会去清理下水道和街道，但在中国和日本这样的国家，这是公民义务。而在美国，每天都有志愿者承担这项义务，法院甚至会不经起诉就命令轻微违法者履行公民义务。