外网讨论：6G是什么，为什么中国领先？
What is 6G and why is China ahead?
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中国在开发第六代或6G无线通信方面一直走在世界前列。这项新技术预计将改变我们与世界互动的方式，融合“真实”与数字环境，并使更智能和创新的系统能够与其他技术结合。然而，尽管中国在2024年制定了三项6G技术标准，并领先一步，但并不是所有国家都积极接受这一下一代互联技术。
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China has been outpacing much of the world with its efforts to develop sixth-generation or 6G wireless communications. The new technology is expected to change the way we interact with the world by fusing “real” and digital environments as well as by allowing more intelligent and innovative systems to combine with other technologies. But while China established three 6G technological standards in 2024, not all countries have been as proactive embracing the next generation of interconnectivity.
中国在开发第六代或6G无线通信方面一直走在世界前列。这项新技术预计将改变我们与世界互动的方式，融合“真实”与数字环境，并使更智能和创新的系统能够与其他技术结合。然而，尽管中国在2024年制定了三项6G技术标准，并领先一步，但并不是所有国家都积极接受这一下一代互联技术。
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IShowSpeed had proven his experience of livestreaming in China without lag for 6 hours straight 1440p live on youtube too
IShowSpeed证明了他在中国进行6小时连续直播的经验，没有延迟，并且在YouTube上直播1440p画质。
Yes the power of HUAWEI 5G
wish speed tried some cool HUAWEI stuff, i'm a big HUAWEI fan
是的，HUAWEI 5G的强大
希望Speed能试试一些酷炫的HUAWEI产品，我是HUAWEI的大粉丝。
and HUAWEI have 5.5G and HUAWEI will come out with 6G satelite, HUAWEI is advanced in soo much, maybe in the future speed will know.
而且HUAWEI有5.5G，HUAWEI还将推出6G卫星，HUAWEI在很多方面都很先进，也许未来Speed会了解。
I watched his stream when he was on the train going ~300 km/h through the tunnels...No lag no delay, I thought it was 1080p 60p, but then I clicked settings, it showed 1440p 60p....Crazy
我看过他的直播，当时他在火车上，以大约300公里每小时的速度穿过隧道……没有延迟没有卡顿，我原以为是1080p 60帧，但点击设置后，显示的是1440p 60帧……太疯狂了。
I hope Speed comes to Eendia and and experience our rich Heendoo culture
希望Speed来印度，体验一下我们丰富的印度文化。
Not just speed but also coverage. You can't even buy a beverage in China without some sort of internet access since the country is almost entirely cashless and cardless at this point. Which means they have to have coverage EVERYWHERE in the country. Maybe not 5G speeds, but you do need some degree of coverage.
不仅仅是Speed，覆盖范围也很重要。现在在中国，你几乎无法买到饮料，因为这个国家几乎完全是无现金和无卡支付的。这意味着他们需要在全国范围内都有网络覆盖。也许没有5G速度，但至少需要一定程度的覆盖。
去年我在三峡游船上，导游正在试图向我们推销一些纪念品。这条路不是三峡的主要线路，已经远离大城市，甚至不在三峡的支流上，而是在三峡的支流的支流上，我们被带到一个叫做“小三峡”的小峡谷，真的是在荒芜的地方。但当我需要支付30元人民币或者其他小纪念品的钱时，甚至在那个小峡谷里也有手机信号，所以我能够完成支付。
US advertised 5g and masks 4g as 5g before ever deploying it to most people. Lead the way, China
美国在大规模部署5G之前，曾将4G和5G混淆宣传。中国引领着这一切。
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Meanwhile 300 million people in poor China have no internet and 1.4 billion people need to jump the Great Firewall to access the internet.
与此同时，中国有3亿贫困人口没有互联网，14亿人需要翻越防火墙才能上网。
What exactly do you think 1.4 billion people use to access WeChat, Bilibili, etc if they have no internet. How is China leading the development of 6G with no internet? Can you comprehend your own statement?
你觉得14亿人怎么用微信、哔哩哔哩等，如果他们没有互联网？你能理解自己说的是什么吗？
Minister in my country: "why we need fast internet, no useful"
我国的部长： "为什么我们需要快速的互联网，没什么用。"
Why is China ahead is not even a question that needs to be asked
为什么中国领先，这个问题根本不需要问。
China is testing 6G, while my India is still stuck with 3G—we don't even have proper 4G. Forget Gs, most of our rural areas don't even have access to the internet.
中国正在测试6G，而我的印度还停留在3G——我们甚至没有适当的4G。别说G了，我们大多数农村地区连互联网都没有。
My village in Arunachal doesn't even have any g for sim like no jio, bsnl, airtel or vi nothing no network connectivity
我在“阿邦”(中国藏南)的村庄甚至没有任何G信号，像Jio、BSNL、Airtel或Vi都没有，根本没有网络连接。
Well Done China..! no doubt you are always ahead...
做得好，中国！毫无疑问，你们总是走在前面…
LOL I'm still using 4G in the UK, although 5G does pop up on my mobile network while I'm travelling in London
哈哈，我在英国还是在用4G，尽管在伦敦旅行时手机网络偶尔会显示5G。
The biggest question would be, "why is India not ahead"? Did India position itself as the Global superpower? How is it possible that India, the #1 superpower of the internet, is unable to make 6G and have got to rely on American's Starlix?
最大的问题是：“为什么印度不领先？”印度是否定位自己为全球超级大国？怎么可能印度，互联网的#1超级大国，不能研发6G，反而要依赖美国的Starlix？
You lack knowledge india has Standalone technology fully New Towers Jio 5G india Speed 820 Mbps, full india covered look at satellite imagery
你缺乏知识，印度有独立技术，完全新的塔楼，Jio 5G印度网速820 Mbps，全印度覆盖，看看卫星影像。
This comes to no surprise as to why China is ahead in terms of tech dev...
这不奇怪，为什么中国在技术开发方面领先。
So many countries have not even start 5G or still stucked in 5G problem
这么多国家甚至还没开始5G，或者仍然卡在5G的问题上。
In Eendia, we just rebadge the logo on the phone icon and we have 5G. Jai Hind!
在印度，我们只是重新标识手机图标上的5G标志就能有5G了。印度必胜！
Ofcourse pakistan I saw they were about to launch in August 2024, trusted zhong Chinese network provider but I see how much it was successful till now
当然，巴基斯坦我看到他们计划在2024年8月推出，信任的中方网络提供商，但我看到到现在为止成功的程度如何。
The coolest part was paying everything with your palm in the store and now 6G
最酷的部分是可以在商店里用手掌支付一切，现在又有了6G。
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1) When India saw China's 6th gen plane, India panics and interrogates why their Tejas is still in PPT "“40 Tejas Aircraft Not Delivered Even In 8 Years”, Air Chief Highlights Production Issues"
2) When India saw China's new OS Harmony, India panics and questions why "Why is India Pushing for Home-grown Web Browsers"
3) When India saw China's release of Alipay in year 2004, India copies, and India's UPI was only launched in year 2016.
4) When India saw China's first nuclear test in 1964, India copies and made theirs 10 years later.
5) When India saw China's 5G or 6G, Indian panics and signs a contract with Starlix.
6) same goes for investment in infrastructures, investments in Africa, AI eg. DeepSeek AI and so on. There are more examples obviously.
India does not have a clear development policy. Their only policy is to copy China and that is why they are always the laggard of China.
当印度看到中国的第六代飞机时，印度慌了，质疑为什么他们的“泰戈尔”飞机仍然停留在PPT中，“8年内40架泰戈尔飞机未交付”，空军司令强调生产问题。
当印度看到中国的新操作系统鸿蒙时，印度慌了，质疑为什么“印度要推动本土浏览器”。
当印度看到中国在2004年发布支付宝时，印度跟着抄，印度的UPI直到2016年才推出。
当印度看到中国1964年进行第一次核试验时，印度跟着抄，10年后才进行自己的核试验。
当印度看到中国的5G或6G时，印度慌了，签约了Starlix的合同。
基础设施投资、非洲投资、人工智能（例如DeepSeek AI）等同样如此。显然还有更多例子。
印度没有明确的发展政策，他们唯一的政策就是抄袭中国，这就是为什么他们总是中国的落后者。
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Most of us Eendians are still running on 4G.
我们大多数印度人仍然在使用4G。
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180 millions Indians use 5G Saar that is much higher then Europe and South Asia
1.8亿印度人使用5G，比欧洲和南亚都要高。
I still remember that at the 2g&3g era the cost of mobile networks was extremely expensive only some developed countries afford it because the tech was monopolized by a few companies.until China join the game in 4G era make everything affordable even for African countries or poor country like India.Chinese companies like Huawei built 4G all over the world. Even poor countries like India suddenly could built 4G overnight and phones are affordable to them.
If not China,Indian could never afford it,the west would make it dozens times expensive.
我还记得在2G和3G时代，移动网络的成本非常高，只有一些发达国家能够负担得起，因为技术被少数公司垄断。直到中国加入4G时代，才让所有人都能负担得起，包括非洲国家和像印度这样的贫穷国家。像华为这样的中国公司在全球建设了4G基础设施。即使是像印度这样的贫困国家，也能在一夜之间建立起4G网络，手机变得对他们来说也变得负担得起。
如果没有中国，印度根本无法负担得起，西方会让这项技术变得昂贵数十倍。
India is incapable to reverse engineer or innovate key technologies. That’s why in 40 years it couldn’t built a jet engine (Kaveri engine project started in 1983), still using cryogenic engines supplied by Russia in 1990s, couldn’t improve it either. Not even Honda activa engine is fully built in India as that requires precision engineering etc. Paajeets ain't that smart to innovate or reverse enginnering, because it requires intelligence.
印度没有能力逆向工程或创新关键技术。这就是为什么在40年里它无法制造出喷气发动机（卡维里发动机项目从1983年开始），仍然使用1990年代俄罗斯供应的低温发动机，而且也无法改进它。甚至连本田Activa的发动机也不完全是在印度制造的，因为那需要精密的工程技术等等。印度人并不像他们所想的那样聪明去创新或逆向工程，因为这需要智慧。
Just saw Modi begging Trump for concessions on tariffs on 14 Feb 2025 Press Conference and Modi wanting to patch up with China through a podcast with Lex Fridman after getting a slap from Daddy Trump. A big U-Turn in Indian foreign policy indeed which highly suggest Indian economy is definitely collapsing.
刚刚看到莫迪在2025年2月14日的新闻发布会上向特朗普乞求关税让步，莫迪还想通过和Lex Fridman的播客与中国修复关系，这是在特朗普“打脸”之后的一个大转弯。印度外交政策的重大转变，确实暗示印度经济肯定在崩溃。
Indian strategy big mouth .blufing first , if not working then victimize themself and beg.
印度的策略就是嘴巴大，先虚张声势，如果不行了就自我受害然后乞求。
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Here in Indonesia, we used to have a telecommunication minister who once asked what is the use of fast internet? So no surprise our 5G today is minuscule in presence.
在印度尼西亚，我们曾经有一个通信部长，曾问过“快速的互联网有什么用？”所以毫不奇怪，我们现在的5G在这里几乎没有什么存在感。
what's makes me staggering is my android phone 5G download speed already 50 mbps instead of that my lan Ethernet cable download speed 2.2 mbps
让我感到震惊的是，我的安卓手机5G下载速度已经达到50 Mbps，而我的LAN以太网下载速度却只有2.2 Mbps。
When the top 2 economic superpowers of the world collectively decide to sanction you using tariffs or trade, you know you are in deep trouble. That is why India, after getting a slap from Daddy Trump during the 14 Feb Press Conference 2025, came crawling back to China. Modi, unexpectedly, wants to patch up with China through a podcast with Lex Fridman. He has no one else to turn to and the timing of his podcast couldn't be anything more convincing and convenient.
当世界上两大经济超级大国共同决定通过关税或贸易制裁你时，你知道你已经陷入了大麻烦。这就是为什么印度在2025年2月14日的新闻发布会上被特朗普“打脸”之后，跪着回到了中国。莫迪，出乎意料地，想通过与Lex Fridman的播客修复与中国的关系。他别无选择，他与中国修复关系的时机和他的播客恰到好处，似乎更具说服力和便利。
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National average 1 Q of India = 76 and National average 1 Q of China = 104. That is why most of the key technologies are dominated by China. Source: China leads the world in 37 out of 44 critical technologies, according to a report by an Australian think tank , "The Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI)". I know statistical numbers without any tangible results are merely numbers but......Where is India and their products? Where is the Indian AI equivalent of the Chinese DeepSeek or TicTok? Where is the Indian mobile phones, 6 G telecommuication, Space station, DJI drones (global leader), CATL EV battery (global leader), Solar panels (global leader), artificial sun (first one), invention of Toripalimab, thorium molten salt nuclear power station (world first), world's first methane rocket in space orbit, world first lunar samples from the far side of the moon (South Pole–Aitken basin), 6th gen fighter jets and many more? Where is Indian and India?
印度的全国平均智商（Q）是76，而中国的全国平均智商（Q）是104。这就是为什么大多数关键技术都被中国主导。来源：澳大利亚战略政策研究所（ASPI）的一份报告显示，中国在44项关键技术中领先37项。我知道没有实际结果的统计数字仅仅是数字，但......印度在哪里，他们的产品在哪里？印度的人工智能相当于中国的DeepSeek或TikTok吗？印度的手机、6G通信、空间站、全球领先的DJI无人机、全球领先的CATL电池、全球领先的太阳能电池板、全球首个人工太阳、Toripalimab发明、世界首个熔盐钍核电站（世界首个）、世界首个轨道中的甲烷火箭、世界首个来自月球远侧的样本（南极-艾肯盆地）、第六代战斗机等等？印度在哪里，印度的产品在哪里？
Where are the Indian products? Where are Indian EVs, Indian EV batteries, Indian AI, 6G and so on? I struggle to find anything Indian on the global market except for its unemployed economic refugees that it has been exporting to every country.
印度的产品在哪里？印度的电动汽车（EV）在哪里，印度的电动汽车电池，印度的人工智能，6G等等？我很难在全球市场上找到任何印度的东西，除了它输出到每个国家的失业经济难民。
The only product that India has discovered is Cowdung and that's why India is also called as Cowdungstan.
印度唯一发现的产品是牛粪，这也是为什么印度被称为“牛粪国”。
Im actually ok with 6 to 8 inches. Now you are bringing in 14 inches.
我其实对6到8英寸已经很满意了。现在你却提到14英寸。
just some seret to share... China is actually inventing and looking into so call "8G" already....
有个秘密要分享……中国其实已经在研究所谓的“8G”了……
Can people in the comment appreciate China rather than mocking other countries? So disrespected to the Chinese people who work hard for this achievement. Congratulations to !
能不能有人在评论中欣赏中国，而不是嘲笑其他国家？这么不尊重为这一成就辛勤工作的中国人民。恭喜！
When I got my first 5G phone i dont notice any improvement from my previous 4G phone in my daily use. Maybe it will come after they build 6G.
当我拿到第一部5G手机时，我没有在日常使用中注意到比4G手机有什么改善。也许等到他们建成6G后会有改变。
What are the software and hardware prerequisites to upgrade from 5G to 6G, making having 5G is an advantage?
从5G升级到6G需要什么软件和硬件要求，拥有5G有什么优势？
That is not clear to me, what is the advantage over 5G. Just many, many beautiful words and nothing more.
我不太清楚，这和5G相比有什么优势。只是很多华丽的词语，什么也没说清楚。
Wasn’t 5G suppose to do what 6G is claimed to be doing.
5G不应该做6G现在所宣称的事情吗？
Meanhwile Indonesia still 4 G
与此同时，印度尼西亚还是4G。
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I’m still happy with my 4G in the Netherlands
我在荷兰还是很满意我的4G。
We're not even prepared 5G even today thanks to its short range thus unable to use 3G and 4G network, standalone tower arent cheap especially when you need to build many.
我们今天甚至没有为5G做好准备，因为它的覆盖范围较短，无法使用3G和4G网络，独立基站并不便宜，尤其是当你需要建立很多基站时。
India came crawling back to China and begging after USA slaps India during the 14th Feb 2025 Press Conference of Trump and Modi. Prior to that, India sends two beggars to China twice to beg for mercy and assistance within a period of 40 days urgently and each time they do not dare to demand that the meeting place be held in India. Not a single Indian media is discussing about those events. Too much humiliation I guess.
印度在2025年2月14日特朗普和莫迪的新闻发布会上被美国打压后，爬回去向中国乞求。之前，印度在40天内两次派遣乞求者去中国请求宽恕和援助，每次他们都不敢要求会议地点设在印度。没有一个印度媒体在讨论这些事件。太过耻辱了，我猜。
2) Indian National Security Advisor, Ajit Doval, 18th of Dec 2024, came to China with a begging bowl.
1.印度外交秘书维克拉姆·米斯里，2025年1月28日，带着乞求的碗来到中国。
2.印度国家安全顾问阿吉特·多瓦尔，2024年12月18日，带着乞求的碗来到中国。
Not really sure 5G has been fully adapted by everyone yet. It's very expensive for telecom companies to upgrade from 4G to 5G. It will take time for telecom companies to fully amortize the cost to 5G.
While I'm sure 6G is better, but who is going to pay for the upgrade to 6G? Also, is there a real need to 6G, even in a few years?
我不太确定5G是否已经被每个人完全适应。对电信公司来说，从4G升级到5G非常昂贵。电信公司需要时间才能完全摊销5G的成本。
虽然我相信6G更好，但谁来支付升级到6G的费用呢？而且，几年来真的需要6G吗？
it seems in china, the higher the number, the better it must be
在中国，数字越大，似乎就越好。
Same thing was said for 4G and then 5G and we all know how 5G is performing.
对于4G和5G也曾经说过类似的话，我们都知道5G的表现如何。
China is leading in 6G network and 6G fighter plane. No doubt j 36 is better than F 47.
中国在6G网络和6G战斗机方面领先。毫无疑问，J-36比F-47更好。
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America and Europe will be overwhelmed by Chinese innovation and resilience ..
West can never catch up to china
美国和欧洲将被中国的创新和韧性所压倒..
西方永远赶不上中国。
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Most country struck 4g because can't connect to 5g convert due to poor maintenance any some city stuck old times and they where there's nothing can't we do anything about an has slowed down upgrade city to disrupt the next future technology dream can caused all likely slowed grow money and due to slowed maintenance upxe makes all countries can't join new technology all years of for reason
大多数国家停留在4G，因为由于维护不善无法连接到5G，一些城市还停留在旧时代，他们无能为力，无法做任何事情，这导致了升级城市的进程变慢，影响了未来技术梦想的实现，可能会导致所有国家的增长放缓，且由于维护更新放慢，所有国家都无法赶上新技术，原因已经多年。
5G didn't even work ,now they are on to 6G? Just make 4G better it works.
5G甚至都没用，现在又开始讨论6G了？不如把4G做得更好，它已经能用了。
Went china for vacation and i been stressing for 3 days because of their internet censorship.
去中国度假，三天都因为他们的互联网审查而焦虑不已。
"C has cheated and stolen their way into a global superpower status, at our expense," Marco Rubio at Senate confirmation hearing.
"C通过作弊和偷窃的方式成为了全球超级大国，代价是我们的损失。" ——马尔科·鲁比奥在参议院确认听证会上。
I can't imagine ppl still talking about 5 or 6 G while we have been using Starlix for years.
我简直无法想象人们还在谈论5G或6G，而我们已经使用Starlix好几年了。
Literally everything that is hyped now about 6G is what was said about 5G.
现在关于6G的所有炒作，几乎都是之前关于5G的说法。
So sad that EU is getting bogged down further and further into the conflict with no end in sight. Hundreds of billions of euros have been and will be used to support the war. If only such could be diverted to science/tech research and development. What could possibly go wrong for EU future?
真可惜，欧盟正越来越陷入冲突，没有尽头。数千亿欧元已经被用来支持战争，未来还会继续。如果这些钱能用来支持科技研究和发展该多好。欧盟的未来怎么会好呢？
In 7G, computers will control humans and dictate what they do and see.
在7G时代，计算机会控制人类，决定他们做什么、看什么。
That's what they told us about 5G and it's slow... So why should we think 6G will be even faster?
这正是他们告诉我们5G的情况，但它速度很慢……那么为什么我们应该认为6G会更快呢？