红迪热论：小米SU7 Ultra在中国上市，马力高达1500匹，售价仅73000美金！
Xiaomi SU7 Ultra with 1526 hp launched in China for 72,830 USD
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2025年2月27日，小米汽车--小米SU7 Ultra正式上市，售价52.99万元起。作为小米SU7系列旗舰车型，小米SU7 Ultra在产品开发之初，目标重新定义豪车新标准。在产品体验上，目标在科技上紧追特斯拉、性能比肩保时捷，豪华媲美奔驰、宝马、奥迪。
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It's just released with the price of 529 k yuan (previously said to be 820k). xiaomi expect 10 k sales of SU 7 ultra for 2025. I think it will sell more than 10k units.
刚发布的价格是52.9万人民币（之前说是82万）。小米预计2025年SU7 Ultra能卖1万台。我觉得这车肯定能卖得更多，1万台太保守了。
How does 1500 hp even get to the road properly without insane tires lol? Holy shit.
怎样才能让1500匹马力稳稳地在路面上行驶呀，没有超强顶配轮胎抓地怕不是要飞出去。卧槽，这也太猛了。
Check the video from YouTuber telescope. Obviously you can set it to some "comfort" mode which gives about 400 HP. Even on the track, he was driving in the "endurance" mode which only gives 900 HP. The 1500 is only supposed to be used seriously, like on a track.
看看油管博主telescope的视频就知道了。很明显你可以调到舒适模式，大概400马力。就算在赛道上，他也是用"耐力赛"模式开的，只有900马力。1500马力那是要动真格的时候才用的，比如在赛道上飙车。
It has tires import from Europe.
这车用的是欧洲进口轮胎
At higher speed I assume grip is less of an issue for acceleration and it gets more power limited, though I guess performance at 150+ doesn't matter at all outside the track
速度上来之后，抓地力对加速的影响应该就没那么大了，更多是受限于动力。不过话说回来，150+的速度除了在赛道上，其他地方也用不上吧，谁没事开那么快啊！
Correct - the tire contact patches have a limited force they can apply to push the road backward/push the car forward. And since speed * force = power. And since power is approximately constant (very roughly), 1500 hp would overcome the contact patches friction at low speeds (spin tires) but not at high speeds. So I would guess this has a good 0-60mph time, but amazing higher end acceleration (say 100-150mph)
没错——轮胎与地面接触的部分施加的力是有限的，它的作用是推动路面向后或推动汽车向前。由于速度乘以力等于功率，而功率大致是恒定的（非常粗略地说），所以在低速时，1500马力能够克服接触面上的摩擦力（比如轮胎打滑），但在高速时就不行了。因此，我猜这辆车的0-60英里/小时加速时间应该不错，但更令人惊讶的应该是它在高速区间的加速性能（例如100-150英里/小时）。
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my 762hp model S seems to do just fine with all seasons even in the rain.
我那762马力的特斯拉Model S各个季节开起来也完全没问题，哪怕是雨天
The preordered amount has been over 10k. So impressive
预售量就已经破万了，这也太顶了吧！
Many people preordered cyber trucks and then cancelled when they were so bad.
很多人预定了赛博卡车（特斯拉2019发布的一款电动皮卡），结果发现太拉胯了，直接退单了。
If xiaomi executes well, we'll probably see the opposite effect here.
如果小米这波表现出色的话，咱们很可能会看到完全相反的情况
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This car confuses me so much, these specs and those prices should be impossible
这辆车让我一脸懵逼，这样的配置和价格应该是不可能的。
All Chinese car prices seem impossible when directly converted. Domestic competition is massive, they're operating at thin or negative profit margins to gain market share, big economies of scale, vertical integration, and there isn't a dealership middleman demanding their share.
The most expensive trim and 530hp version of the BYD Seal, for comparison, sells for $25.000 converted.
中国汽车的价格直接换算后简直离谱。国内竞争太激烈了，车企们都在薄利多销甚至亏本赚吆喝，就为了抢占市场份额。他们玩的是规模经济，产业链垂直整合，而且没有中间商赚差价。
就拿比亚迪海豹来说，顶配530马力的版本换算成美元才2万。
$10,000 profit per car is not the same in the US vs China. Everything is cheaper in China, there is more value per dollar.
美中两国每辆车赚1万美元的利润差别可大了。在中国，几乎所有东西都很便宜，一美元能买到的东西更多。
Imagine what actual competition would do to the US market
想象一下真正的竞争会给美国市场带来什么冲击
Id assume most car companies would go under and everything will be manufactured in China not the US. Is this what people prefer? Sure cars could be cheaper but will people have any jobs to buy stuff?
我猜大多数汽车公司都会倒闭，所有东西都会在中国制造而不是美国。这是大家想要的吗？车是便宜了，但到时候大家还有工作能买得起东西吗？
Free market baby, thats what US has been touting for it
自由市场万岁，这不就是美国一直在吹捧的玩意儿么
Exactly. It would be amazing for our evolution as a nation.
We could allow China to build all these things and but then for cheap. That way Americans can spend much more money on other things.
Also, it would allow Americans to focus on other jobs that’s produce value in other ways instead of just being labor slaves
没错，这对我们国家的发展来说简直太棒了！
我们可以让中国来建造这些东西，而且价格还便宜。这样一来，美国人就能把更多的钱花在其他地方了。
而且，这还能让美国人专注于其他更能创造价值的工作，而不是整天当苦力。
incredible to think that the country that's supposed to be the flagbearer of free market is US in this scenario.
真是让人难以置信，在这种情况下，号称自由市场旗手的居然是美国。
But this is not “actual” competition. It’s China VS other markets. It’s not the same. There are a lot of things behind final price
但这可不是真正的"公平竞争"。这是中国VS其他市场，完全不是一回事。最终价格背后藏着太多门道了。
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While you make some valid points, they wouldn't apply to halo cars such the SU7 Ultra, which isn't meant to be sold in large numbers.
虽然你说得有点道理，但这些观点并不适用于像SU7 Ultra这样的旗舰车型。这种车本来就不是走量的，主打的就是一个高端定位。
Apparently they expect to sell 10k of it this year, but I guess large numbers is relative
听说他们今年打算卖1万台，不过嘛，数量多少都是相对的
xiaomi just announced that they have got 10k orders in two hours!
小米刚刚宣布，他们两小时内就接到了1万单！这也太猛了吧！
Not surprised
一点都不意外
Don’t forget that many of the Chinese EV companies are partly government owned, enjoy massive subsidies on their development and benefit from the questionably cheap labour costs in China.
别忘了，很多中国电动车企业都有Z府持股，享受着巨额研发补贴，还从中国那说不清道不明的廉价劳动力成本中获益。
I don’t know why this gets downvoted.
American car manufacturers benefit from things like direct loans during the bailout, massive subsidies of oil companies making gasoline cheaper, our free highway system, and underinvestment in alternative transport like intercity trains.
真不明白为什么这帖子会被踩。美国的汽车制造商可是占了不少便宜，比如救助计划中的直接贷款、石油公司获得的巨额补贴让汽油更便宜、免费的高速公路系统，还有对城际列车等替代交通方式投资不足，这些都在为他们提供帮助。
It's downvoted because it's superficial and outdated. If you ever visited Chinese factories and did on-site investigations of their industries in recent years, it's easy to realize the low cost of Chinese products mainly comes from high automation ratio, fully arranged supply chain and massive competition, rather than cheap labor.
It's not that cheap anymore. That's why low-end products manufacturers mostly moved their factories to Vietnam, and high-end ones invested a lot in AI+manufacturing. Workers losing jobs became a major social problem there.
In terms of gov subsidies, they did that 20 years ago to initiate supply chain, and 10 years ago to prioritize EV in public transportation contracts, and 2 years till now to facilitate EV buyers on vehicle registration. The overall money is about the same as federal gov subsidies to Intel and Boeing. Everyone does the same, but they do in a smarter and cleaner way.
被踩是因为有些人太肤浅没见过世面。如果你最近几年去过中国工厂，实地考察过他们的产业，很容易就会发现中国产品的低成本主要来自高自动化率、完善供应链和激烈的竞争，而不是廉价劳动力。
现在已经没那么便宜了。这就是为什么低端产品制造商大多把工厂搬到了越南，而高端产品制造商则在AI+制造上投入巨资。工人失业在那里已经成为一个主要的社会问题。
至于政府补贴，20年前他们这么做是为了启动供应链，10年前是为了在公共交通合同中优先考虑电动车，而最近两年则是为了促进电动车买家的车辆登记。总体金额与联邦政府对英特尔和波音的补贴差不多。大家都在做同样的事，但他们做得更聪明、更干净。
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Let's you know how these legacy car companies overcharge you.
让你后知后觉那些老牌车企是怎么割韭菜的。
Nobody is overcharging you, its just Chinese are immensely efficient + intentionally undervalued Yuan + Massive state subsidies.
Although xiaomi is absurd even when calculating these
没人坑你钱，只是中国人效率高得离谱+人民币故意被低估+国家补贴力度大。
就算把这些因素都算进去，小米的价格还是低得离谱。
Well the JV companies (SAIC-GM, FAW-VW, GAC-Toyota etc) have access to the same supply chain, same currency, and never mind state subsidies, they are literally 51% state OWNED, yet they were still charging high prices for cars until literally 2023 when Tesla started a price war and all the non state owned Chinese automakers joined in, forcing the JV carmakers to join in as well.
Which means even the Chinese consumers were getting overcharged for DECADES (with half of those profits going right overseas to foreign shareholders) until the domestic EV makers finally produced REAL competition just a few years ago.
这些合资企业（上汽通用、一汽大众、广汽丰田等）明明享受着同样的供应链、同样的货币环境，更别提还有国家补贴，它们可是实打实的51%国有控股啊！可直到2023年特斯拉掀起价格战，国内非国有的车企纷纷跟进，这些合资车企才被迫降价。
这意味着中国消费者被宰了几十年（一半利润还直接流向了海外股东），直到几年前中国电动车企真正崛起，才终于有了像样的竞争。
You can sell at tiny margins during times of crisis, it doesn't mean you were overcharging before. It just means you're willing to take a hit to increase market share.
危机时期低价甩卖，不代表之前定价虚高。纯粹是为了抢占市场份额，宁可自己吃点亏。说白了就是战略性亏损，懂的自然懂。
Almost all Mini Cooper EVs are made in China with cheaper labor and older tech, yet they still charge a premium for it.
Still don't believe they are overcharging buyers?
几乎所有Mini Cooper（宝马子品牌）电动车都是在中国制造的，用的是便宜的劳动力和老技术，但他们还是卖得贼贵。还不信他们在割韭菜？
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Any car made in China is much more expensive elsewhere. When you see a Chinese EV in Europe, theyre not sold with china prices, theyre sold with Europa prices and frankly so far rather unsuccessful. And before you go 'because of tariffs', they already didnt sell well before the tariffs. Only the MG4 did decent.
中国造的车在国外都贵得离谱。你在欧洲看到中国电动车，那价格可不是中国的价，和欧洲车价差不了多少。说实话到现在为止卖得都不咋地。别急着说"是因为关税"，没加关税之前就卖不动。也就MG4（名爵出的电动车）还算凑合。
If its selling, then its not overpriced.
能卖出去就说明价格没毛病。
Chinese cars are very present in EU. Given the fact that no one knew about BYD or NIO three years ago, it is just stunning. The percentis still low, but quickly growing even here in Germany. It will not be easy for them in a conservative market like Germany, but the German manufacturers have messed it up big time. Let's see...
中国车在欧洲真是随处可见啊！想想三年前谁听说过比亚迪和蔚来，现在这发展速度简直让人惊掉下巴。虽然市场份额还不大，但在德国这边增长得飞快。德国这种保守市场对他们来说确实不容易，但德国车企自己把好牌打烂了也是事实。咱们拭目以待吧...
I mean compare a Model S to a Taycan. Is Porsche just 'overcharging'? Or are there merits to the higher price? One thing I always notice about 'affordable' high performance cars is that they often have shitty brakes, thats particularly true for Tesla. Theres a less performant cooling system and obviously a Taycan has been optimized to drive decent in corners too and not just straights.
When I see 1500hp EV for that price I immediately think of shit brakes, not so great cooling and a not awfully well refined driving experience outside the obvious very high hp numbers. Sure itll do well in a drag race because apparently thats the only thing that matters these days. 1500hp to me screams marketing more so than any point being behind it. Its way too much power for virtually anything that isnt a drag race. Even Porsche is struggling to find any good reason to go beyond 1000hp with the new Taycan GT. Sure they could give it 1200hp so it would beat the Model S Plaid more confidently on a drag race but Porsche doesnt care that much about drag races.
And the whole topic of 'overcharging', ofc a premium brand doesnt offer great value, thats never been the case, these cars/items are status symbols. You dont seem to understand the point of luxury/premium cars/items and you very obviously arent the target audience for it.
咱们拿Model S（特斯拉）和Taycan（保时捷）比一比。保时捷是不是在割韭菜？还是说高价有高价的道理？我经常注意到那些亲民的高性能车，刹车系统往往很拉胯，特斯拉尤其明显。冷却系统也不太行，而Taycan显然在弯道表现上也下足了功夫，不只是直线加速牛逼。
看到1500马力的电动车卖这个价，我第一反应就是刹车肯定不行，冷却系统更不咋地，除了马力大得吓人，驾驶体验估计也就那样。当然，直线加速赛肯定很猛，毕竟现在好像就只看这个了。1500马力对我来说更像是营销噱头，而不是真的有什么实际意义。除了直线加速赛，这马力简直过剩到离谱。就连保时捷都在新款Taycan GT上纠结要不要突破1000马力。他们当然可以搞到1200马力，这样在直线加速赛上就能更轻松地干翻特斯拉Model S Plaid，但保时捷压根儿不在乎这个。
至于"割韭菜"这个话题，高端品牌当然不会给你性价比，从来都是这样，这些豪车/奢侈品就是身份的象征。你好像没搞懂豪车/奢侈品的意义，显然你也不是它们的目标用户。
xiaomi SU7 Ultra is priced at only 529,999 RMB (73,002.59 USD) but boasts top-tier supercar performance, luxury car configurations, and first-tier autonomous driving capabilities.
小米SU7 Ultra只要52万9999元人民币（约合7万3千美元），却拥有顶级超跑的性能、豪车的硬件配置和一线水平的自动驾驶能力。
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This car's performance is comparable to the Taycan Turbo GT, but its price is only $73K, making it a true disruptor of performance cars and a top performer in terms of cost-effectiveness
这辆车的性能能够与保时捷的Taycan Turbo GT媲美，但价格仅为73,000美元，真正成为了高性能车的颠覆者，并在性价比方面表现突出。
Absolutely it destroys Euro metal
没错，这车直接吊打欧洲豪车！
Bye bye European Legacy. xiaomi su7 has ended the speed legacy of Europe
欧洲速度神话拜拜咯，小米SU7已经终结了欧洲的速度传奇。
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the fact that this is their first car should scare all the legacy makes.
这居然是小米造的第一辆车，传统车企看了通通都得瑟瑟发抖。
As much as i love lucid and what theyve done for EVs, it's crazy that xiaomi has managed to outclass it so heavily in both price and performance with their second vehicle. Unreal.
虽然我很喜欢Lucid（美国电动汽车制造商），他们为电动车做了很多贡献，但小米第二辆车就能在价格和性能上完爆它，这也太离谱了吧！
This give me shivering all around the body.
这让我浑身起鸡皮疙瘩
This is a crazy thing. You can buy a performance monster with the exchange rate of 520k RMB, which is 72k USD. In the Chinese auto market, this has a great impact on the market position of the BMW 5 Series, Mercedes-Benz E-Class and Audi A6 at the same price. Even potential buyers of the BMW M2 will hesitate.
这简直太疯狂了！72k美元（约52万人民币）就能买到一台性能怪兽。在中国汽车市场，这绝对会对同价位的宝马5系、奔驰E级和奥迪A6的市场地位造成巨大冲击。就连想买宝马M2的人估计都得犹豫一下了。
I really hope that they bring it to Europe,
Would just love it if they make the same looking but lighter version with a smaller battery under 1,7 tones .
真心希望这车能引进欧洲啊
要是能出个外观一样但更轻的版本，电池小一点，重量控制在1.7吨以下就完美了。
They are far behind on ramping up production to meet Chinese demands alone, so probably not exporting any overseas anytime soon.
他们连满足中国本土需求的生产都跟不上，所以短期内应该不会出口到海外。
Considering the tariff factors, the market price in Europe may triple that in China.
考虑到关税因素，欧洲市场的价格可能是中国的三倍。
IMO the driving assist is on point, its same like power saver mode in smartphone, even your phone using fastest chip if you turned ON the power saver then you wouldn't get the best from it. Its the same like this driving assist simply to make the car live longer than normal (or brutal) use from the owner
我觉得这个驾驶辅助系统很到位，就像手机里的省电模式一样。就算你的手机用的是最快的芯片，开了省电模式后性能也会打折扣。这个驾驶辅助系统也是同理，就是为了让车子在正常（或者暴力）使用的情况下能更耐用。
If it was exported it would destroy everything
要是这玩意儿出口那可就天下大乱了
Would love to have the SU7 here in Indonesia, it won't be 'cheap' but it would be nice to see a competition to BYD Seal (although that car will be destroyed by its own brother, the Sealion 7)
真希望SU7能来印尼啊，虽然价格不会太"亲民"，但能看到它和比亚迪海豹（虽然这车可能会被自家兄弟海狮07干掉）竞争也挺有意思的
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This is why car manufacturers all over the world are scared
这就是为什么全球车企都瑟瑟发抖的原因
xiaomi Su7 Ultra is a beast
小米SU7 Ultra简直就是性能怪兽
this is a great achievement by xiaomi
小米这次真是干得漂亮
What a stunning, sumptuous specimen of what an EV can and should be. This car is a game changing masterpiece at this price point. So beautiful, look at that interior . Thank you for the video and introducing it to the rest of the world in such a professional, well mannered fashion.
Idc what needs to be done, we've got to get this car to the USA and the rest of the world right now. It is obscene and a travesty that this tech exists at this price yet we can't have it. We do over $750 billion annually in trade with China. What's really going on!?
这车简直是电动车界的颜值担当+实力派！在这个价位上，它绝对是颠覆性的杰作。内饰美得让人窒息。感谢大佬用这么专业又接地气的方式给我们介绍这款神车。
不管用什么办法，必须把这车搞到美国和其他国家来！这么牛逼的技术卖这个价，我们却买不到，简直离谱！明明中美每年贸易额都7500亿美金了，这到底啥情况啊？
guys，this car turned out to be less than 80k bucks for almost everything u need to race in a track and daily use, with 600 bucks a year as member for extra track service...
兄弟们，这车不到8万美金就能搞定赛道和日常使用，而且每年只要600美金会员费就能享受额外赛道服务...
As an engineer working on Active Safety systems, you hace to change your mindset om the priorities of these systems. The systems are tuned conservatively due to critical safety cases. Issues with sensor performance in all conditions. Compute limitations. And most importantly, issues with people's ability to intervene when something does go wrong. They often don't pay attention when the use these systems. The vehicles performance is rarely if ever factored in tuning those systems because of those constraints.
作为一名从事主动安全系统开发的工程师，您必须重新审视这些系统的优先级。在关键安全场景下，这些系统的调校往往偏向保守。传感器在各种条件下的表现、计算能力的限制，以及最重要的，当系统出现问题时人类干预的能力，都是必须考虑的因素。此外，驾驶者在使用这些系统时往往缺乏足够的专注力。正因如此，这些限制通常导致车辆的性能在主动安全系统的调校中被忽视。
Safety first. The driving sistem may be conservative but that is the point. Better that have a car that may by trying to kill you. Need 4speed go 2 the track.
安全第一。驾驶系统可能保守了点，但这就是重点。总比开着一辆想害死你的车强。想要飙车请去赛道。
Why cant we get this in the UsA jk I know the answer
为啥美国买不到这车啊？开个玩笑，其实我懂啥原因
TARIFF！
关税警告！
The SU7 base version just got the software upxe that stopped it crashing into obxts while self parking. Of course they are cautious with the self driving.
SU7基础版刚刚收到了软件更新，解决了自动泊车时撞到物体的问题。当然啦，他们在自动驾驶这块儿还是很谨慎的。
I'm still amazed how the table has turned that cars are cheaper in China compared with US. I remembered I bought a Lexus RX350 10 years ago for $48000 USD and at that time it was sold for $100,000 in China. Now if this car or any other EV are allowed to be sold in US with less than 30% tariff, they will crash Tesla easily.
真是让人震惊，现在中国的车居然比美国便宜这么多！我记得10年前我花了4万8千美元买了辆雷克萨斯RX350，当时这车在中国要卖10万美元。现在要是这些车或者任何电动车能以低于30%的关税在美国销售，特斯拉怕是要被吊打了。
I suppose that's why the tariff is set at 100% and not 30. I wonder if they aren't going to become cheap enough to be imported even with that, price seems to be dropping fast and their tech is better.
我猜这就是为啥关税定在100%而不是30%吧。不过我在想，就算现在这么高的关税。但他们的价格降得这么快，技术还更先进，会不会最后便宜到还是能进口？
The 100% is arbitrary and simply indicative of a legal de facto ban. If Chinese EVs somehow become competitive with that number that number will simply go higher.
这个100%的关税完全是拍脑袋定的，说白了就是变相禁止。要是中国电动车真能在这个税率下还有竞争力，他们肯定还会继续往上加。
Even at 100% tariff, sign me the fuck up! This price/performance ratio is just unreal!
就算加100%关税，我也要冲爆！这性价比简直离谱！
I don't think that it will crash Tesla easily because Tesla's Y and 3 are still top best selling cars in China
我觉得特斯拉不会那么容易崩，毕竟Model Y和Model 3在中国还是卖得挺好的吧
yeah, but the market share declined and they sell the car cheaper than US
是啊，但市场份额下降了，而且特斯拉在中国卖得比美国便宜。
Tesla as a pioneer of the EVs has massive brand value in China. It’s like Apple in smartphones.
特斯拉作为电动汽车的先锋，在中国有着巨大的品牌价值。就像智能手机界的苹果。
Tesla interior is referred to as “unfinished” by many people in China
Tesla’s brand value and novelty is quickly wearing off with the rise of Chinese EVs in recent years
特斯拉内饰被很多中国网友吐槽"半成品"
近年来随着中国电动车的崛起，特斯拉的品牌光环和新奇感正在快速消退
Holy hell, so they started preorders for the car at 110k USD, and then tells those customers a few months later that surprise! We are only going to charge you 73k for this car?
卧槽，他们一开始以11万美金的价格开启预订，几个月后突然告诉这些顾客：惊喜来咯！我们只收你7.3万美金
if xiaomi (and byd) ever gets sold up here in canada...i can see enough asians (as Singaporean myself) swapping their teslas in vancouver. Hell, I'll trade in my mach-e for the YU7 if the price is right lol
要是小米（还有比亚迪）能在加拿大开卖...我敢说温哥华这边肯定有一大堆亚洲人（包括我这个新加坡人）会把自己的特斯拉换掉。说真的，要是价格合适，我连自己的野马Mach-E都愿意换成小米YU7，哈哈。
Really no point putting the price in USD... you will never be able to buy it in the US, not to mention with that price.
标美元价格真的没啥意义...这玩意儿在美国根本买不到，更别说维持原价了。
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Domestic auto CEO's can afford to bring them over and are willing to pay any price to get a good car.
美国车企的CEO们完全有能力引进这些豪车，而且为了搞到一辆好车，他们愿意不惜一切代价砸钱。
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There is a point if you ever leave the cave. Most people use USD as the reference currency before converting it back to local currency. In case you're not aware, people trade with USD on almost everything.
xiaomi will start exporting cars soon, the US with all the sanctions will be left out. Kinda their fault xiaomi started an EV division in the first place.
你要是真出过国门就该知道，大多数人都是先把钱换成美元，再换成当地货币。你可能不知道，现在几乎所有的国际贸易都是用美元结算的。
小米马上要开始出口汽车了，美国搞了那么多制裁，肯定会被排除在外。要我说，当初要不是搞芯片制裁，也不会逼得小米成立电动汽车部门。
Even with 100% tariff, it's still gona cost you less than what competitors offer in the states.
就算加上100%的关税，也比美国本土竞争对手的报价便宜多了。
$73k for a supercar, holy shit. However, I know the real devil is in the details, so I don't know how the handling or brakes are compared to something like a Koenigsegg, Lamborghini, or Bugatti.
7.3万美元买超跑，这也太离谱了吧！不过我知道真正的难题在于细节，所以不知道它的操控和刹车跟科尼赛克、兰博基尼或者布加迪比起来咋样。
I mean, look at the standard parts, bilstein EVO R shocks, Endless MA45B brake pads, P Zero/P Zero Trofeo RS tires 265 front 325 rear, and they are going to release a 2-seater Nürburgring special edition after their Nürburgring run this year. The performance of this car is no joke.
我是说，看看这些标配：Bilstein EVO R避震器、Endless MA45B刹车片、前265后325的P Zero/P Zero Trofeo RS轮胎，而且他们今年在纽北跑完后还要推出双座纽北特别版。这车的性能可不是闹着玩的。
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Watched the track videos for it, seems very solid. They used carbon rotors and akebono brakes. Can wait for their Nurburgring track result which many racers expect to be sub 7 min
看了赛道视频，感觉挺稳的。他们用了碳陶瓷刹车盘和Akebono卡钳。大家都在等纽北赛道成绩，很多车手预测能跑进7分钟以内，期待中~
Already broke the record in october, 6:46.
10月份就已经打破纪录了，6分46秒
That’s the ‘prototype’ car which is built differently from the su7 ultra you can actually buy
打破记录的是"原型车"，跟你实际能买到的SU7 Ultra完全不是一回事儿。
They beat the taycan GT track record on Shanghai F1 track. So it’s actually pretty impressive.
他们在上海F1赛道上打破了保时捷Taycan GT的圈速记录。确实挺令人印象深刻。
Im just wondering what you do with 1500hp. With supercars with an ICE you dont need to full throttle it to experience those cars. An ICE has infinitely more character than an electric motor. You can enjoy a Bugatti W16 engine without going anywhere near peak power.
Rivian has a high hp EV supercar and it hasnt sold all that well, they expected to sell more. Ofc that thing had a supercar price but genuinely, 1500hp just screams marketing more so than common sense. At that price i cant imagine it coming with brakes or battery cooling that could last multiple Nordschleife laps without overheating. Its probably still selling decent for a while but let me say this, Tesla nowadays barely sells any Model S and X despite 1000hp for a low price.
我就好奇1500匹马力能干啥。开燃油超跑根本不需要踩到底就能体验到那种感觉。内燃机的魅力可比电动机大多了。布加迪的W16引擎，不用开到极限就能爽到。
Rivian（美国电动车制造公司）搞了台大马力电动超跑，结果销量不咋地，比预期差远了。当然那玩意儿价格确实贵得离谱，但说真的，1500匹马力更像是营销噱头，没啥实际意义。这价位我都不敢想象它的刹车和电池散热系统能不能撑得住在纽北跑圈。可能短期内还能卖得不错，但我要说的是，现在特斯拉的Model S和X就算有1000匹马力还便宜，销量也就那样。
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Insane price for the specs. Question about the 10K target sales is only around production. if they can meet that, they will exceed the numbers easily.
This should be the model they should take to Europe, Australia, Singapore, Middle east etc whenever they have the domestic demand under control. will sell very well for sure.
这配置这价格简直离谱！关于1万台的销售目标，唯一的问题就是产能。只要能搞定生产，销量绝对轻松超预期。
等中国国内需求稳定了，这款车就该进军欧洲、澳大利亚、新加坡和中东市场了。绝对能卖爆！
They already sold 10k in the first 2hr
开售两小时就卖出了1万辆
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Question was around production. End of 2024 they sold > 139K vehicles and had locked 250K orders. Which means they have 100K+ backlog for their vehicles. This one will have special production line and I dont know how long it will take to hit 10K production.
Demand will not be the issue for sure.
问题主要围绕产量。2024年底他们交付了超过13.9万辆，并且锁定了25万辆的订单。这意味着他们还有超过10万辆的积压订单。这款车会有专门的生产线，但我不确定要达到月产1万辆需要多久。
Phase 2 expansion of the factory is under going and new factory for YU7 is in construction.
I don’t know if it will be a brand new line for Ultra. Likely shared
二期车厂扩建正在进行中，YU7（小米即将退出的家用电动SUV）的新车厂也在建设中。
不知道Ultra会不会有全新的生产线，很可能是共用的。
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Did they fix the brake issue with this car?
这车的刹车问题修好了没？
There’s never a brake issue. xiaomi already warned people if you want to race you need to upgrade the brake pad for 1000$
刹车从来不是问题。小米早就提醒过大家了，想飙车的话得花1000美元升级刹车片。
Like a McLaren and a Porsche Panamera had a child. Not a bad pedigree. This would be a 60% tariff if it somehow made it to the US?
这车简直就是迈凯伦和保时捷帕拉梅拉的混血儿啊！结合得相当不错嘛～不过要是这车真能进美国市场，怕是要被征收60%的关税吧？
I watch the live this morning. It was truly astonishing that xiaomi could provide such a price. 6:46 in Nurburgring. I think it’s good to bring higher levels of tech to a lower, more affordable price. I like their motto. Wish they could stick to it.
今天早上看了发布会直播。小米能给出这个价格真是让人震惊。纽北6分46秒的成绩，我觉得把高端技术带到更亲民的价格区间是件好事。我挺喜欢他们的理念，希望他们能一直坚持下去。
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The China EV market is so far ahead of us here. I watched a few live streams on xiaohongshu / rednote showing their EV capabilities and I was really amazed. Everything can be controlled from your phone / voice including simple stuff like locking the door, opening roof etc.
中国电动车市场简直甩我们几条街啊！我在小红书上看了几个直播，展示他们的电动车功能，真的被惊艳到了。所有东西都能用手机或语音控制，像锁门、开天窗这种基本操作都不在话下。
I am a supporter of xiaomi. I strongly agree with Lei Jun's business philosophy. If anyone from overseas wants to get SU7(MAX/Ultra), they can contact me to discuss the feasibility.
我是小米的铁粉，特别认同雷军的商业理念。如果有海外朋友想入手SU7（MAX/Ultra），可以找我聊聊，咱们一起研究下怎么搞到手。
Putting prices for cars sold in China in USD or € is such bullshit.
ID.3 costs 16k€ in China but 32k€ in Germany. Same is true for the Chinese OEM cars like BYD or NIO.
Everything is much cheaper there but if/once sold in the west it will never be this cheap
把中国汽车售价换算成美元或欧元简直离谱。
ID.3（大众推出的电动车）在中国卖1.6万欧，在德国却要3.2万欧。比亚迪、蔚来这些中国品牌的车也一样。
在中国啥都便宜，但一旦卖到西方，价格就再也下不来了。
Such outrage for a mere currency issue. It's doesn't take more than 5sec to convert the currency; and even if you ignore that it's not Chinese companies fault that EU countries have less competition and high tariffs. So it's pretty obvious the prices will be cheaper in China.
就为了个货币问题这么大动肝火？换算个货币连5秒都不用。再说了，就算你不换算，中国公司也没做错啥啊，明明是欧盟国家竞争少、关税高。所以在中国价格便宜不是很正常的事吗？