【欧亚海军观察】震撼！中国首艘054B型护卫舰“漯河”号
China's First Type 054B Frigate 'Luohe' is Truly Stunning!
译文简介
首艘054B型护卫舰已在青岛某海军港口交付中国海军，第二艘预计将在2025年入列。
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The first Type 054B frigate was handed over to the PLAN at a naval port in Qingdao. A second ship is expected to enter service in 2025.
首艘054B型护卫舰已在青岛某海军港口交付中国海军，第二艘预计将在2025年入列。
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Damn, the PLAN has some bloody good looking ships.
哇，PLAN（解放军海军）的舰艇真是帅炸了！
What a beautiful ship she is.
她真是一艘漂亮的船啊！
Meanwhile...... Constelation class
3 years delay and waiting...
与此同时……星座级
拖了3年，还在等……
Will stay in PPT
将会止步PPT
the engine runs super clean.... zero smoke
发动机运行非常干净，完全没有烟。
COGAG
燃气轮机组合推进系统。
Mumbai
孟买
The 054B frigates are inferior to Indian destroyers that should be ready by the year 2050.
054B型护卫舰比不过印度计划2050年服役的驱逐舰。
Hahhhaha India numba wan
哈哈哈哈，印度南玻万！
even on drawings, indian ships are far better...
即使是在图纸上，印度的舰船也更好...
Yasss saaarrrr we areee numba wannnn saaarrrr.damn poopjeet
耶斯！大哥，我们是第一！哈哈，太狠了，喷屎人。
2090...
2090年...
India Supapowa 2050.
印度超机大国2050。
Underestimating China is a fools judgement
小看中国是愚蠢的判断。
ROFL comparing frigates to destroyers?
How do the indian ships compare to Type 055s?
哈哈哈，把护卫舰和驱逐舰放一起比？
印度的舰船跟055型驱逐舰比起来怎么样？
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Indian destroyer ppt proposal is far superior to the 055`s.
I have never seen 055's ppt and neither have you.
印度驱逐舰的PPT提案远胜于055的。
说实话我没见过055的PPT，估计你也没见过吧。
Indian navy will be numb ba wan by 2075
到2075年印度海军会成为世界第一！
I see the sarcasm
我看出来你在讽刺了。
India has no stealth fighters
印度没有隐形战斗机 lol
Little-3rd-brotha has Stealth
三弟有隐形马桶
@呆蛙赢麻了
为什么要提印度？印度在哪儿？
Indians love to plan ahead, yes, but only in terms of projects. NOT in terms of the technologies involved in the project, and how to produce those technologies domestically.
印度人确实喜欢提前做计划，但通常只限于项目本身而不涉及项目的技术部分，更不用说如何在国内生产这些技术了。
/笑哭
By which time said destroyers would be obsolete.
到那时候这些驱逐舰早就过时了。
Has India flown stealth fighters like China???? How can you compare China with India??? Even now India is far behind China, what more in 2050 Very strange comment
印度有像中国那样飞过隐形战斗机吗？你怎么能拿印度和中国比较？印度现在都远远落后于中国更别提到2050年了，真是奇怪的评论
U got me there
你赢了！
Oh yes, India is the best most advanced country in the world. So US, did you hear this, quickly switch your focus from China to India
哦，没错，印度是世界上最先进的国家！美国，你听到了吗？赶紧把注意力从中国转移到印度吧
China is clearly the best ship builder in the world as far as hulls go. Just compare their frigate program to ours for one
中国毫无疑问是世界上造船能力最强的国家，至少在船体建造方面是这样。拿他们的护卫舰项目和我们的比一比就知道了。
This is a 6000 ton class frigate, will be mass produced like its predecessor 054a
这是一艘6000吨级的护卫舰，可能会像它的前辈054A一样量产。
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It is borderline destroyer in NATO standards
按北约标准来看，这差不多算是驱逐舰了吧。
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@Chickenworm9394 Nah just a fishing ship, nothing to worry about.
@Chickenworm9394 啊，不过是一艘渔船，没啥好担心的。
咋着你家船厂的？一张嘴就加了1000吨
@Chickenworm9394 this classification line is pretty much blurred these days, British type 26 8000 tons, German F125 7200 tons, yet they are both called frigate
@Chickenworm9394 现在这种分类界限确实挺模糊的，像英国的26型8000吨，德国的F125型7200吨，它们却都被叫做护卫舰。
@yunfenglu6619 and German F126 is like 10 000 tons if i remember and its a "frigate"
@yunfenglu6619 德国的F126级好像是1万吨的吨位吧（如果我没记错的话），居然还叫“护卫舰”
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It's not 6000 tons but 5500-5700 but overall still good and much more capable than the 054A's.
不是6000吨，是5500到5700吨，不过整体还是不错的，比054A能力更强。
Big navy downgrade small destroyers to "large bluewater frigate" due to 10000ton destroyer exist in the navy.
Small navy country usually upgrade their frigate to "small destroyer" simply because they need it to do the job of destroyer XD
大海军因为有1万吨级的驱逐舰存在，把小一些的驱逐舰降级成了“中型远洋护卫舰”。
而小海军国家通常会把自己的护卫舰升级成“迷你驱逐舰”，因为他们需要这些护卫舰去承担驱逐舰的活儿（笑）。
So majestic!
太震撼了！
Beautiful
美丽 / 漂亮 / 好美啊
Wow! China's Type 054B makes the US's Arleigh Burke class look like a nice museum.
哇！中国的054B型让美国的阿利伯克级看起来像是个不错的博物馆。
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Still the burke is on another level.
伯克果然还是高一个级别啊！
the only minus for me is the turret design.
make it less curvy, dawg the old one is way better with multiple flat surface & sharp edges.
对我来说唯一的缺点就是炮塔的设计。
拜托，别弄得这么圆润啊兄弟 以前那个多面平面加上锐利边角的设计帅多了！
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So gorgeous.
太美了！
I love the lines on modern Chinese warships...
我超喜欢现代中国军舰的线条感！
This supposes to be a new class of stealth ships.
这应该是一种全新的隐形舰艇。
another beast from PLAN
又是解放军海军的一个怪物级选手！
Wtf? How are they making so many new types in quick succession?
搞啥呢？他们怎么这么快就出这么多新类型？
They build approximately 80% of the world’s ships.
他们建造了全球大约80%的船只。
overcapacity
产能过剩
they have at least 3 shipyards to build this small vessels
他们至少有三个船厂来建造这种小型船只。
Jealous?
嫉妒了吗？
@JinKee Dedication and hardworking
@JinKee 你真是又敬业又努力！
@HeidiKernstad Actually about 60%, but I'm just being pedantic because 60, 80 are both dominating.
@HeidiKernstad 其实大概是60%，不过我只是有点较真罢了，因为60%和80%都很占优势。
China has 230 X ship building capacity compare US
中国的造船能力是美国的230倍。
@pohmoh3590 and that figure is when China is just nonchalantly building ships for fun
@pohmoh3590 那还是中国随随便便造着玩的时候的数字呢。
Planning and ability
计划与能力
Is that china's answer to canadian HMCS Ottawa
这是中国版的加拿大渥太华舰吗？
The main gun turret looks like a nice chunk of bread.
主炮塔看起来像一大块面包！
@农夫山贼有点田
是的，在中国，这门炮被称作”馒头炮“
Gorgeous and sleek!
华丽又时尚！
The 100 mm cannon on the 054B frigate is still related to France.In those days, the China Navy introduced the French 100mm naval gun, but it didn't continue to study it because it didn't work well.
054B护卫舰上的100毫米舰炮还是和法国有关的。当年中国海军引进了法国的100毫米舰炮，但没深入研究因为实际表现不太理想。
china can landing rover to moon and mars when france cant, so why u think china cant made cannon better than france LOL
中国都能把探测器送上月球和火星法国却做不到，你觉得中国做不了比法国更好的大炮吗？lol
@农夫山贼有点田
是的，这是法国100毫米舰炮的改进版，当年中国海军购买之后发现，法国的这门舰炮为了减重导致故障率太高，经过多方面的改进，中国海军又用回了这门炮，明显克服了原来的缺点
Just out of curiosity whether TYPE-054B is faster than Type-054A because I believe Type-054B is utilised to accompany the Aircraft Carriers.
就好奇一下，054B型舰是不是比054A型更快？因为我觉得054B型主要是用来护航航母的。
Type 054A is assigned for carrier escorts too
054A型护卫舰也被用于航母护航。
054B的重大改进点：
1.速度更快，能跟得上航母战斗群
2.能携带Z-20F执行更高效的大面积反潜任务
054B are designed for ocean yacht
054B是为游历大洋设计的。
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@Chickenworm9394 But they can't keep up that well, which is what the 054B's, or whatever new class of frigates that would succeed this, are replacing them in that domain as it's much larger and much more capable.
@Chickenworm9394 但他们跟不上节奏，所以才会用054B级或者其他新一代护卫舰来接替它们，因为这些新舰更大，性能也更强。
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Why missile qty is only 32? Previous 054A is 48 right?
为什么导弹数量只有32枚？之前的054A不是有48枚吗？
My sources say the type 054A also had 32 cells. They're both equipped with smaller cells compared to the destroyers since they are purposed for ASW.
据我了解，054A型也是32个发射单元。因为它们是为了反潜作战设计的，所以相比驱逐舰使用的是较小的发射单元。
Both have same 32 cell VLS. B model includes 24 cell HQQ 10 launcher and moved the 30mm CIWS and changes from 2 x 6 barrel guns to 1 x 11 barrel gun. Larger displacement was likely to increase endurance. Also B model losses the bow mounted ASW rockets.
两者都配备了相同的32单元垂直发射系统（VLS）。B型增加了24单元的HQQ 10发射器，同时把30毫米近防武器系统（CIWS）的设计改为从双6管炮变成单11管炮。排水量的增加大概率是为了提升续航能力。不过，B型取消了舰艏的反潜火箭装置。
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052D has 48
052D有48单元。
@shihanwong3548 No, 052D has 64 UVLS cells with a 24-cell short range HQ-10 SAM launcher.
@shihanwong3548 不对，052D有64个通用垂直发射单元（UVLS），另外还有一个24单元的近程HQ-10防空导弹发射器。
No, the 054A had the 32-cell H/AKJ-16 VLS just like the 054B is using. Shame the 054B is still using this VLS as it was thought it would be using the newer UVLS but that just likely means the PLAN has an entirely from scratch successor ship in development to succeed these frigates. Which is why it's interesting that rather than just start mass-producing these much more larger and capable 054B's, they seem to have restarted 054A production with the 054AG's. The 054B might just be a two-ship class to test out technologies.
To your original point, 32 VLS for medium-range SAMs is more than enough for a small frigate of this size who's entire purpose is ASW, escorts, and medium-range air defense. The addition of the 24-cell HQ-10 launcher also increases its self defence capabilities.
不，054A使用的确实是32单元的H/AKJ-16垂直发射系统，054B也是用同样的系统。令人遗憾的就是054B依然采用这种垂直发射系统，原本以为它会换成更新的通用垂发系统（UVLS）。但这可能意味着解放军海军（PLAN）正在开发一款完全从头设计的新型舰艇作为这些护卫舰的继任者。这也解释了为什么他们没有直接大规模生产更大、更先进的054B，而是重启了被称为“054AG”的054A改进型生产。也许054B只是一个用于测试新技术的两艘舰的实验性级别。
至于你最初的观点，对于这种以反潜（ASW）、护航和中程防空为主要任务的小型护卫舰来说，32单元的垂直发射系统的中程防空导弹已经完全足够了。此外，增加的24单元HQ-10发射器也进一步提升了其自卫能力。
@Flightman453 Yes - so when you compare to the Arleigh Burke and it's 96 VLS it doesn't tell the full story because it discounts the 052's HQ-10. So really it would be like 88 cells.... So ton for ton and dollar for dollar - the 052 packs a bigger punch than the Arleigh Burke.
@Flightman453 是的——如果你拿052和阿利·伯克级驱逐舰的96单元垂直发射系统（VLS）相比，实际情况没那么简单，因为这忽略了052的HQ-10系统。算上HQ-10的话，其实应该是相当于88单元……所以论吨位和造价，052的火力相比阿利·伯克还是更强一些的。
@ No, an HQ-10 is not a VLS cell. Those are two completely different things.
@ 不对，HQ-10 不是垂直发射单元（VLS）。这两者完全是不同的东西。
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Good,the 100mm cannon !
点赞，这门100毫米火炮！
What are the differences between the A and B variants?
A和B型有什么区别？
the build is the same, new upxe for radar, adding ciws 1130
设计没变，更新了雷达，还加入了1130近防炮。
The 054B is much larger which will improve it's endurance and speed. Along with a newer radar and overall more room to fit newer more capable sensors and electronics. From an armament perspective, they're pretty similar with slight differences which suggests the 054B is likely not meant to succeed the 054A, but to be a two-ship class for an entirely new class of next generation frigates.
But for the armament, the 054B still uses the same H/AKJ-16 VLS as the 054A, the 054B replaced the 76mm main gun with a 100mm main gun, instead of using 2x 1130 CIWS like the 054A's, it only uses one 1130 CIWS and adds a 24-cell short range HQ-10 SAM launcher, and they both still retain the 8x YJ-83 AShM's. So really, the only main differences in terms of armament is the main gun and the addition of an HQ-10 launcher.
054B型护卫舰要大得多，这将提升其续航能力和航速。此外它配备了新型雷达，整体空间更大能够容纳更先进的传感器和电子设备。从武器装备来看，054B与054A基本相似但有一些细微差别。这表明054B可能并不是用来替代054A的，而是与之并存，并作为下一代护卫舰的新两舰级设计之一。
具体到武器配置，054B仍然使用与054A相同的H/AKJ-16垂直发射系统（VLS）。不过054B将76毫米主炮换成了100毫米主炮，而不像054A那样使用两门1130近防炮（CIWS），它只保留了一门1130近防炮，但新增了一个24单元的短程HQ-10防空导弹发射系统。此外，两型舰还是都保留了8枚YJ-83反舰导弹。所以在武器上，主要区别在于主炮的升级和HQ-10导弹发射系统的新增。
Some good looking ship here
这里有几艘挺帅气的船啊！
Elegant lines..a nice ship.
线条流畅，是一艘好船！
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Seems not too far off the Type 052s, which were classed as destroyers
看起来和052型驱逐舰差不多，都被归类为驱逐舰。
In terms of air defense capabilities, these could not possibly replace the Type-052DLs in the carrier escort ship role.
就防空能力而言，这些舰艇根本不可能替代052DL型在航母护航中的角色。
Couldnt they have increased the stealth by hiding the fencing behind a steel deflector wall or something? I felt they could have added that around the railing...?
他们就不能通过在护栏后面加个钢板遮挡什么的来提高隐蔽性吗？我觉得他们可以在围栏周围加点这类设计啊...
type054b is only a trial ship for next model of frigate, so it wont be mass built
054B型只是下一型护卫舰的试验舰，所以不会大量建造。
32 VLS cells is more than enough deterrence for a smaller vessel. China can easily produce many more of these should the PLA N need them too!
32个垂直发射单元对于小型舰艇来说已经足够起到威慑作用了。中国如果需要的话，完全可以轻松地多造一些！
Frigate more anti sub ship. Less air defense.
护卫舰更偏向反潜，防空能力较弱。
they are for sub hunting mainly
它们主要是用来猎潜的。
Beautiful
美啊！
The radar keeps spinning, adding to the mystery!!!
雷达不停地转啊转，增加了几分神秘感！
Dropping dumplings.
下饺子了。
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Most Chinese weapons have more or less design characters from Russia. but their Navy is totally different bit of west Europe style.
大多数中国武器或多或少都有点俄罗斯设计的影子，但他们的海军风格完全不一样，更接近西欧那种感觉。
Please don't embarass old grandpas of Arleigh Burke and Ticonderoga..
别让“伯克爷爷”和“提康爷爷”丢脸了吧！
All that foredeck and only one gun ?
前甲板那么大，就装了一门炮？
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you are forgetting the 32 cell VLS's behind the gun.
你是不是忘了主炮后面的32单元垂直发射系统（VLS）？
He still living in the age of battleships
他还活在战列舰的时代。
What do you mean by "one gun"? What modern-day frigate or destroyer has multiple main guns? This isn't the 20th century.
“你说的‘一门主炮’是什么意思？现在还有哪款现代护卫舰或驱逐舰会配置多门主炮？这可不是20世纪了。”
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Frigates are too small compared to destroyers. US Navy has no frigates. However, around the world, frigates are the main force. With Trump/Elon government budget efficiency drives, frigates main gain higher status again.
护卫舰相对于驱逐舰来说太小了，而且美国海军没有护卫舰。不过在世界范围内护卫舰却是主要力量。如果特朗普/马斯克政府提倡提高预算效率，也许护卫舰能再次提升地位。
China uses frigates to hunt for submarines... Russia uses them now for hypersonics.
中国用护卫舰猎潜……俄罗斯现在用护卫舰搭载高超音速武器。
窗户大视野好，窗户大显船小。 哎~~~~~~~
In the back of my mind I'm like that radar is fake lol. I know its not however the world wonders how powerful is Chinas radars and such
在我心里总觉得那个雷达是假的，lol。不过我也清楚它不是假的，只是大家都会好奇中国的雷达到底有多强大。
How can you tell that its fake?
你怎么看出来是假的？
small aegis
小型神盾
it's only a frigate.... cheap and fast to make
这只是护卫舰而已……便宜又造得快。