土耳其和希腊如何为塞浦路斯做战争准备：新的军备竞赛-网帖翻译-龙腾网

@lelevontin1814
War? As a Turk i condemn those things. Fuck war. Enough troubles and problems on earth.

战争？作为一名土耳其人，我谴责这些事情。去他的战争。地球上的麻烦和问题已经够多了。
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@ruzgar_adam
Between 1954 and 1958, he was unsuccessful in his various applications to the UN for "self-determination". In the meantime, Colonel Grivas, who came from Greece, founded the EOKA terrorist organization in 1955 and the acts of violence on the island gradually increased. In the period of 1955 and 1958, Turkish Cypriots were forced to leave 33 mixed villages. In this case, in 1956, England announced that not only Greeks but also Turkish Cypriots had the right to "self-determination" and that the demand for partition was a valid option within this frxwork. Greece's failure to obtain a unilateral decision in favor of "self-determination" and Enosis from the UN, the resistance of Turkish Cypriots against Enosis and Turkey's determination to support them enabled negotiations to be initiated between Turkey and Greece.

1954年至1958年期间，他多次向联合国申请“自决”但未获成功。与此同时，来自希腊的格里瓦斯上校于1955年成立了EOKA恐怖组织，岛上的暴力行为逐渐增加。在1955年至1958年期间，土耳其裔塞浦路斯人被迫离开了33个混合村庄。在这种情况下，1956年，英国宣布不仅希腊人，土耳其裔塞浦路斯人也有“自决”的权利，并且在这一框架内分裂是一个有效的选项。希腊未能从联合国获得支持“自决”和统一的单方面决定，土耳其裔塞浦路斯人反对统一，以及土耳其决定支持他们，促使土耳其和希腊之间展开谈判。1959年2月11日，

Turkey and Greece reached an agreement in Zurich on February 11, 1959 and received the approval of England and the leaders of the two communities in Cyprus in London. The Zurich and London Agreements that emerged in this way were based on the principles of independence, partnership of the two communities, autonomy in the social sphere and effective guarantee of the solution by Turkey, Greece and England.

土耳其和希腊在苏黎世达成协议，并在伦敦获得了英国和塞浦路斯两社区领导人的批准。由此产生的苏黎世和伦敦协议基于独立、两社区合作、社会领域自治以及由土耳其、希腊和英国有效保障解决方案的原则。

The “Republic of Cyprus” was established in 1960 in accordance with international agreements based on the partnership between the two peoples of the island. Its Constitution, guaranteed by the said agreements, was based on the equal political rights and status of the Turkish and Greek Cypriot peoples on the island. The Greek Cypriot side did not give the 1960 Republic a chance to survive as it was established, and initiated attempts to change the structure of the “Republic of Cyprus” that came into being with the said agreements system, in order to exclude and isolate the Turkish Cypriots from state institutions, to end their presence on the island and finally to pave the way for unification with Greece (ENOSIS).

1960年，根据基于岛上两民族合作的国际协议，成立了“塞浦路斯共和国”。其宪法由上述协议保障，基于岛上土耳其裔和希腊裔塞浦路斯人享有平等的政治权利和地位。希腊裔塞浦路斯人没有给予1960年共和国生存的机会，而是试图改变通过上述协议体系成立的“塞浦路斯共和国”的结构，以排除和孤立土耳其裔塞浦路斯人，使他们在岛上的存在结束，最终为与希腊统一（ENOSIS）铺平道路。

The Greek Cypriot side launched comprehensive and systematic attacks against the Turkish Cypriot community on December 21, 1963. The Turkish Cypriots were removed from state institutions. This campaign, known in Turkish Cypriot history as “Bloody Christmas”, was based on the previously prepared “Akritas Plan”. The Akritas Plan, which envisaged the annihilation or expulsion of the Turks from the island, was not the action plan of a simple organization, but an attempt at ethnic cleansing prepared by Greek authorities. As a result of the implementation of the Akritas plan, 30,000 Turkish Cypriots were forced to leave 103 villages. The Turkish Cypriot population was forced to leave their places and took refuge in small areas on the island, corresponding to 3% of the island’s surface area, which had no access to the sea and were constantly under siege.

1963年12月21日，希腊裔塞浦路斯人对土耳其裔塞浦路斯社区发动了全面和系统的攻击。土耳其裔塞浦路斯人被从国家机构中移除。这场在土耳其裔塞浦路斯人历史上被称为“血腊圣诞”的运动，基于此前准备的“Akritas计划”。Akritas计划设想消灭或驱逐岛上的土耳其人，这不仅是一个简单组织的行动计划，而是由希腊当局准备的种族清洗企图。实施Akritas计划后，30,000名土耳其裔塞浦路斯人被迫离开103个村庄。土耳其裔塞浦路斯人被迫离开他们的居所，避难于岛上占地面积3%的小区域，这些区域无法通海，且不断受到围攻。

Therefore, the “Republic of Cyprus” ceased to exist after the Greek Cypriots unilaterally abolished the constitution by force in 1963.

因此，1963年希腊裔塞浦路斯人单方面武力废除宪法后，“塞浦路斯共和国”不复存在。

In 1967, the Junta, which seized power in Greece through a military coup, attempted to negotiate with Turkey in the Keşan and Dedeağaç meetings to achieve Enosis, but when this failed, attacks were launched against the villages of Boğaziçi and Geçitkale in Cyprus, and Greek troops also participated in these attacks. This crisis ended upon Turkey’s warning that it would exercise its right to intervene under the agreements, and Greece was forced to withdraw its forces from the island under UN supervision. On July 15, 1974, with the support of the Greek Junta, EOKA leader Nikos Sampson staged a coup against Makarios in order to annex the island to Greece, and seized power for a short time.

1967年，通过军事政变掌权的希腊军政府试图在Keşan和Dedeağaç会议上与土耳其谈判以实现统一，但谈判失败后，针对塞浦路斯的Boğaziçi和Geçitkale村庄发动了攻击，希腊军队也参与了这些攻击。这场危机在土耳其警告将依据协议行使干预权后结束，希腊被迫在联合国监督下从岛上撤军。1974年7月15日，在希腊军政府的支持下，EOKA领导人尼科斯·桑普森发动政变，企图将岛屿并入希腊，并短暂掌权。

In the face of this action, which threatened the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Cyprus, Turkey first proposed a joint intervention to England within the frxwork of the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee. Upon England’s negative response, Turkey, taking into account the security of the Turks on the island, launched the Peace Operation on July 20, 1974. Thus, the annexation of Cyprus to Greece was prevented and the existence of the Turkish Cypriot people was secured. The Turkish Peace Operation also ended the Junta rule in Greece and brought democracy to the country. As can be understood from here, Turkey was not an occupier but rather a savior, bringing peace to the island.

面对这一威胁塞浦路斯主权和领土完整的行动，土耳其首先向英国提出在1960年《保证条约》框架内进行联合干预的建议。英国拒绝后，土耳其考虑到岛上土耳其人的安全，1974年7月20日发起了和平行动。因此，塞浦路斯被并入希腊的企图被阻止，土耳其裔塞浦路斯人的存在得到了保障。土耳其和平行动也结束了希腊军政府的统治，并将民主带入该国。从这里可以理解，土耳其不是占领者，而是带来和平的救世主。

@SerhatAlbayoğlu
Very well explained, thank you. I wish the moderator would take the bother and read this very informative writing. You've summed the Cyprus issue up perfectly. May I add few more points to your writing to explain the other issues ?

解释得非常清楚，谢谢。我希望版主能抽出时间阅读这篇非常有信息量的文章。你完美地总结了塞浦路斯问题。我可以在你的文章中添加一些点来解释其他问题吗？

1. F35 issue : Türkiye was the partner of F35 project right from the start. many of the planes parts were being manufactured in Türkiye. Our pilots were training in the States until Türkiye bought S400 from the Russia. Why Türkiye bought it from Russia insted of the allies is the question that should be asked here. At the time PKK terrorists being supported by the USA were sending missiles to the southern parts of our country and killing our people. That showed us that we do need an air defence systems. American politicians who sold their soul to the Jewish zionists strongly opposed and blocked the sales of Patriot systems to Türkiye. Because Israel has plans to expand their land and they do not want a strong Türkiye who is probably the only country to stop that. This is madness. A Nato country not selling to another Nato country. Turkey, which joined the North Atlantic Alliance on February 18, 1952, has been a strong and reliable member of NATO for more than half a century. NATO and the trans-Atlantic bond are important in ensuring peace and stability in the Euro-Atlantic region and in protecting democracy, prosperity and freedoms." played a decisive role. The same USA government did not find any excuse to Greeks buying S300 purchase of Greece and S400 purchase of India. Is this not a double standard ?

1. F35问题：土耳其从一开始就是F35项目的合作伙伴。许多飞机零部件在土耳其制造。我们的飞行员在美国接受训练，直到土耳其从俄罗斯购买了S400。为什么土耳其要从俄罗斯而不是盟友那里购买，这是一个值得提出的问题。当时，美国支持的PKK恐怖分子向我国南部地区发射导弹，杀害我们的人民。这显示我们确实需要防空系统。那些将灵魂卖给犹太锡安主义者的美国政客强烈反对并阻止向土耳其销售爱国者系统。因为以色列计划扩展他们的土地，他们不想要一个强大的土耳其，而土耳其可能是唯一能阻止他们的国家。这太疯狂了。一个北约国家不向另一个北约国家出售。土耳其自1952年2月18日加入北大西洋联盟以来，已经成为北约一个强大而可靠的成员，超过半个世纪。北约和跨大西洋联盟在确保欧大西洋地区的和平与稳定，保护民主、繁荣和自由方面发挥了决定性作用。同一美国政府在希腊购买S300和印度购买S400时，却没有给任何借口。这难道不是双重标准吗？

2. As for the Cyprus issue, the west did dirty on Türkiye again. Just see how Makarios and Grivas butchered the Turkish people before the Turkish intervension. See how Greek side continiously refused for the talks for peace.If you don't believe me, then I suggest you do your own search for the reality. Then EU as not accepted Türkiye to join as a member for many many years. But happily accepted Southern Cyprus immidately. Just read about the Greeks Megali Idea. The islands in the aegean sea was wrongly handed over to the Greeks after the 2nd world war which most of them a stone throw away from our shores. The condition attached to this was that they would never militarise these islands and the sea distance could be ony 6 miles. What did the Greeks do ? They have heavily militarised these islands and now they are pushing these sea limits to 12 miles. If they can achieve their goal our fishermen should ask permission from Greeks even if they want to fish on our shores. No Turkish ships can sail in the Aegean Sea. And what business can Greeks have in the East Mediteranian ? Those are Turkish seas.

2. 至于塞浦路斯问题，西方再次对土耳其不利。看看Makarios和Grivas在土耳其干预前如何屠杀土耳其人。看看希腊方面如何不断拒绝和平谈判。如果你不相信我，我建议你自己搜索事实真相。然后欧盟多年不接受土耳其成为成员，但却立即接受了南塞浦路斯。看看希腊的大马士革理念。第二次世界大战后，爱琴海的岛屿被错误地交给了希腊，大部分离我们的海岸仅一步之遥。附加的条件是他们永远不会军事化这些岛屿，海域距离只能是6英里。希腊人做了什么？他们重度军事化了这些岛屿，现在他们将海域限制推到了12英里。如果他们能实现他们的目标，我们的渔民即使想在我们的海岸捕鱼也要向希腊人申请许可。没有土耳其船只可以在爱琴海航行。希腊人在东地中海有什么事？那些是土耳其的海域。

One can go on and on about these issues. I hope Türkiye would join BRICS and come out of NATO who proved to be run by a bunch of idiots who have no idea about the history. But I bet NATO will collapse in the end and thats what they deserve

关于这些问题可以一直讨论下去。我希望土耳其能加入金砖国家，退出北约，因为北约被证明是由一群对历史一无所知的白痴领导的。但我敢打赌北约最终会崩溃，这也是他们应得的。

@ruzgar_adam
@SerhatAlbayoğlu Türkiye için vatandaşlık görevimizdir gerçeklerin öğrenilmesi

了解真相是我们的公民义务

@SerhatAlbayoğlu
@ruzgar_adam ???? Ne diyorsun anlamadım dostum.

你在说什么，我听不懂，朋友。
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@DafghGfd-do9lv
Western propaganda channels

西方宣传渠道

@mikkayosef8008
Greece never seems to get sick of getting smacked around by the Turks but they keep coming back for more since way before the Ottomon Empire!

希腊似乎从未厌倦被土耳其人欺负，但他们自奥斯曼帝国之前就不断卷土重来！

@uyaranses8150
No invation, ıt was a Turks land inherited from ottoman and Turks were living in there over 500 with Greeks. Whole Cyprus belongs to Ottoman not to Greeks. Turks soldiers were entered to Cyprus because Greeks were killing civilian Turks with no gun. Maybe doesn't make a sense to you but it literally means to Turks.

不是入侵，这是土耳其从奥斯曼继承的土地，土耳其人与希腊人一起生活了500多年。整个塞浦路斯属于奥斯曼帝国而不是希腊人。土耳其士兵进入塞浦路斯是因为希腊人在无枪的情况下杀害土耳其平民。也许你不理解，但这对土耳其人来说意义重大。

@bashirmohamed7982
Of course problem described through biased one sided

当然，问题被一面偏见地描述了

@robmcnaughton6918
Agree there ...

同意...

@shahzadchaudary5194
Long live Türkiye

土耳其万岁

@kehkah2120
Admin is grreek

管理员是希腊人

@vassilisioannou5488
Greece has a great allie French who does not sell advanced weapons to authoritarian expansionist ragiems.

希腊有一个伟大的盟友法国，他们不会向专制扩张的国家出售先进武器。

@medwho959
Rubish content! Simply incitement!!!

垃圾内容！简直是煽动！

@SedatCaycosar-ug3fo
Stop spreading your lies

停止传播你的谎言

@DicterAbud-W
All bla bla erdogan has no defend palestinians

都是废话，埃尔多安不为巴勒斯坦人辩护

@ozgurkaya493
He is the only leader.

他是唯一的领导者。

@denom7775
Check how many palestinians treated in our hospitals. Check how many Syrian people Turkiye host. Check Erdogan's BM talk. So what did your country do?

看看有多少巴勒斯坦人在我们的医院接受治疗。看看土耳其接待了多少叙利亚人。看看埃尔多安在联合国的发言。那么你们国家做了什么？
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@atakansakarya5795
You are supporting Greece always, Islands territorial waters are 6 miles but Greece claims air 10 miles unilaterally, that's why 10000 air incursion claims of Greece against Turkish aeroplanes. Also Greece claims territorial waters of the islands must be 12 miles than Turkish ships cannot navigate at Egean sea, Further more Greece claims 10 km2 islands economic zone must be 140000 km2 , Greece wants US and France should fight with Türkiye and give them half of Turkey as always like Israel . Historically Greece by believing and getting supports and guarantees of big countries always was aggressive against Türkiye and Turkish people. They must change mentality and should be friend and partner with Türkiye. We Turkish people don't like anybody threat us and treat us like Barbars and we don't afraid of war if necessary to save our rights, that's all.

你总是支持希腊，岛屿的领海是6海里，但希腊单方面声称空域为10海里，这就是为什么希腊对土耳其飞机提出了10000次空中侵犯的要求。此外，希腊声称岛屿的领海必须是12海里，否则土耳其船只无法在爱琴海航行。此外，希腊声称10平方公里的岛屿经济区必须扩展到140,000平方公里，希腊希望美国和法国与土耳其作战，并像以色列一样把土耳其一分为二。从历史上看，希腊因为相信并得到大国的支持和保障，始终对土耳其和土耳其人民持侵略态度。他们必须改变心态，应该成为土耳其的朋友和伙伴。我们土耳其人不喜欢任何人威胁我们，也不怕战争，如果有必要，为了保卫我们的权利，这就是全部。

@migueldelacruz2841
U.S. propaganda

美国宣传
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@billbilly9546
It is still called and not this other wird!

它仍然被称为火鸡，而不是这个其他的词！

@харлампийПОЛИТИДИС
Понятно , что повязанная долговыми обяательствами и галопирующей , стремительно растущей инфляционной дороговизной . . . еще и продуктов питания , что при неизменности заработной платы широких народных масс буквально сокрушает уровень жизни граждан ... вплоть до недоедания ..., выход из создавшегося тупика руководство Турции ошибочно усматривает в развязывании войны ...

显然，与债务义务和飞速增长的通货膨胀及食品价格相关，尽管工资水平不变，广大民众的生活水平实际上被压低，甚至出现了营养不良。土耳其领导层错误地认为，通过发动战争可以走出困境……
如果土耳其打算继续在伊拉克和叙利亚发动攻击，那将意味着它与美国和俄罗斯的直接冲突；在加沙和黎巴嫩干涉以支持逊尼派的哈马斯和什叶派的真主党，这意味着与美国、以色列和整个西方世界的联合力量直接冲突……

Если Турция вздумает продолжить свои атаки в Ираке и Сирии , то это означает ее прямое столкновение с США и с Россией , а вмешательство в Газе и в Ливане для поддержки суннитов Хамаза и шиитов Хезболы означает прямое столкновение с объединенными силами США , Израиля и всего Западного мира ...

在利比亚继续其非常激进的军事行动将意味着与埃及——最大的阿拉伯国家的冲突，这也是不明智的……
与此相关的最弱小的……安卡拉将考虑塞浦路斯共和国、保加利亚和希腊……

Продолжение своей весьма агрессивной военной компании в Ливии означает столкновение с Египтом - крупнейшей арабскй страной , что также нецелесообразно ...
Слабейшими в этой связи .... Анкара рассматривает - Республику Кипр , Болгарию и Грецию ...

安卡拉将毫无问题地找到进一步干涉塞浦路斯的借口……
在保加利亚有大量土耳其公民社区，希腊的弗拉基亚也有超过十万穆斯林……

Предлог для дальнейшего вмешательства на Кипре Анкара найдет без проблем ...
В этой связи следует особо отметить наличие в Болгарии в качестве граждан этой страны огромной турецкой общины , аналогично и в греческой Фракии проживают более чем стотысячная масса мусульман ...
Не исключено , что Анкара попытается поднять в этих регионах восстание
""""для священной битвы за национальную свободу с целью воссоединения этнических братьев с общетурецкой материной родиной """" .....
од знаменем этого псевдо фетиша будет сделана попытка отвлечь внимание народных масс от борьбы за свои экономические права под псевдо лозунгом объединения турецкого народа во имя "решения священных обшенациональных задач "....
.. Таким образом .. если Эрдоган решится атаковать Грецию , Кипр и Болгарию , то это безрассудство закончится полным распадом Турции .... , что с высочайшей тревогой воспринимается всей греческой нацией , поскольку подавляющее большинство турецкого народа являются генетическими братьями греков !

安卡拉可能会试图在这些地区发动起义，
“为民族自由的圣战，旨在与共同土耳其祖国重新统一种族兄弟”……
在这种伪迷信的旗帜下，将试图用“为了解决神圣的超国家任务而团结土耳其民族”的伪口号，转移民众对争取经济权利的斗争的注意力……
…因此，如果埃尔多安决定攻击希腊、塞浦路斯和保利尼亚，这种鲁莽将导致土耳其的完全解体……这将让整个希腊民族感到极大的忧虑，因为大多数土耳其人是希腊人的基因兄弟！

@atakansakarya5795
Когда США и России и Египет и Исраел и Греция и Ирак и ТД сделали союуз против Турции? в вашем сне по моему или мечтаете так. Хот был бы так думаете Турков будет испуганный, ошибаетесь.

美国、俄罗斯、埃及、以色列、希腊、伊拉克等人什么时候结成联盟反对土耳其？是你们的梦吗，还是在幻想。即使是这样，你们认为土耳其人会感到害怕，你们错了。

@robertgreen8000
The weather is weird and countries also seem to want to create violence for unknown reasons except for land and resources

天气很奇怪，各国似乎也想出于未知原因制造暴力，除了土地和资源之外

@tengmaudti8920
Another ignition news.

又一则热点新闻。

@marklewin6370
Acting like Turkish Rambo, aah...enough of talking.. talking....Gaza already flattened, now Lebanon...yet still quack...quack...
You need EU ,
EU don't need you,
Join BRICS out of anger for face saving

表现得像兰博的土耳其，啊……够了，别再说了……加沙已经被夷为平地，现在黎巴嫩……还在喀嚓喀嚓……
你需要欧盟，
欧盟不需要你，
因为气馁而愤怒地加入金砖国家，为了面子

@mikkayosef8008
You're not wrong! Erdogan loves to make himself look, sound and seem "magnanimous!" Lol
Unfortunately, he's a paper tiger for the most part!

你没错！埃尔多安喜欢让自己看起来、听起来和似乎“宽宏大量”！哈哈
不幸的是，他大部分时间都是一只纸老虎！

@mickeymouse1697
mongol turks

蒙古突厥人

@yknova7723
BARBAR VE VANDAL YUNAN..

野蛮和破坏性的希腊人..

@SamSam-cy8ng
@mickeymouse1697 we have cheese on the table..

我们桌上有奶酪……

@abdurrazzakhan9131
All the ilands belong to türkiye

所有岛屿都属于土耳其

@σωαςταςφρενας
And your mama to Greeks

还有你的妈妈给希腊人
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@theotsirakidis6844
Asia Minor belongs to Greece

小亚细亚属于希腊

@SSMasseus
@theotsirakidis6844 NOPE OTTOMAN RULE YOU.

不，奥斯曼统治你。

@John-h5i2q
This old man talks, threathens and shouts alot but does very less in z case of Israel

这个老人说话、威胁和大喊大叫很多，但在以色列的问题上却做得很少

@moeluv
Tired of waiting on that EU membership yet?

还厌倦了等待加入欧盟吗？

@johnlay3040
You can treat Erdogan as a comedian. His rhetoric is amusing rather than threatening.

你可以把埃尔多安当作喜剧演员。他的言辞有趣而不是威胁性的。

@Gino-ye7mi
They said samething about Iran ,,but tel aviv burning in Israel,you are not laughing anymore

他们对伊朗也是这么说的，但特拉维夫在以色列被烧，你们不再笑了
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@Johnnnnpennn
peace always

永远和平
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@shahzadchaudary5194
Türkiye should join any block as it feels, it’s no one’s business to tell the republic who to build relationships or not.

土耳其应该按照自己的感觉加入任何集团，没人在告诉共和国应该与谁建立关系或不建立关系。

@carelthijsse7890
talk talk and talk and no character

说说而已，毫无个性

@nasikamuralikrishna4758
The defence pact between India and Greece may also check Turkey.

印度和希腊之间的防务协议也可能制衡土耳其。

@mainaunt4447
Israel better help greese

以色列最好帮助希腊

@AoneVersi-g6l
Israel cant handled hamas how their fight with Turkiye

以色列无法像与土耳其的战斗那样应对哈马斯

@ACHILLIES97
@AoneVersi-g6l LONG LIVE ISRAIL,KOURDISTAN,.

以色列万岁，库尔德斯坦万岁。

@Šajze
Greece dont needs Help from Israel for turkey

希腊不需要以色列帮助土耳其

@kemalyilmaz4461
@ACHILLIES97
Baskenti atina olan büyük makedonyayi büyük Arnavutlugu destekliyoruz

我们支持首都为雅典的大马其顿和大阿尔巴尼亚

@ruzgar_adam
@Šajze hahahaha

哈哈哈哈

@Šajze
@ruzgar_adam why are you laughing lion.... Look how Desperate you try to buy Euro-Fighter because of greece. You litteraly begging for F16 and now for EF2000.. Hahahahahahah for you ..

你为什么笑，狮子……看看你因为希腊而多么绝望地试图购买欧洲战斗机。你简直在乞求F16，现在又是EF2000……哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
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@kyhber1
And the U S ,Making loads a money selling to both sides ..

还有美国，大量赚钱，向双方出售……

@user-mn2jy6tb2u
Urdogan is mad

埃尔多安发疯了

@bayramcoskun838
on the contrary ..you are mad what you said

恰恰相反……你说的话才是疯狂的

@teonatsios491
THIS IS PROPAGANDA
we are not preparing for war

这是宣传
我们没有准备战争

@kehkah2120
How xan greek be match for Türkiye????

希腊如何能与土耳其对抗？？？

@user-kastelanos
It wouldn't be a soccer match mister ' plenty of other teams would be obliged to join

这不会是一场足球比赛，先生，还有很多其他球队将被迫加入

@Iamjustabirdinthesky
Better airforce better soldiers a marine nation. turks only talk a lot of bla bla but when you show the stick you run

更好的空军、更优秀的士兵，一个海军国家。土耳其人只会说很多废话，但当你亮出武器时，他们就会逃跑。

@kehkah2120
when did u se them run ?
As i know they ruled u more than 500 years

你什么时候看到他们逃跑的？据我所知，他们统治你们超过500年。

@kehkah2120
so u counting help as bagger from other nations? By saying that u are agreed that greece is not match

你是在把其他国家的帮助当作负担吗？就是说你同意希腊无法匹敌？

@Iamjustabirdinthesky
ofcourse you only know turkish news and turkish history but here is the truth for you. Greece was never fully occupied by the ottoman empire. And never 500 years. Crete was never fully occupied only the shores. Mani was never occupied. The ionian islands where never occupied. It was always 10 against 1. Greeks where never united but when they did your numerical advantage was nothing against the Greeks. Now imagine millions of Greeks and fully equipped and ready. Turkey has no chance against Greece. But to be honest because thats the truth Greece can’t attack turkey they would lose. turks want more and more and Greeks don’t care about turkey

当然，你只了解土耳其的新闻和历史，但这里有事实。希腊从未被奥斯曼帝国完全占领，也没有统治500年。克里特岛从未被完全占领，只是沿海地区。马尼从未被占领。爱奥尼亚群岛从未被占领。局面总是10比1。希腊人从未团结过，但当他们团结时，你的数量优势对希腊人毫无作用。现在想象一下，数百万装备精良的希腊人。土耳其对希腊没有机会。但说实话，因为这是事实，希腊不能攻击土耳其，他们会输。土耳其人想要越来越多，而希腊人不在乎土耳其。

@kehkah2120
what million of greeks ? There is barely 10 million in Greece and 3 million is from balkans and 3 million Turks living in greek that's mean u just 3 million barely as greek boy be nice or else this time we will rule u like 1000 years

多少希腊人？希腊的人口勉强有1000万，其中300万来自巴尔干，另有300万土耳其人居住在希腊，这意味着你们只有300万几乎算是希腊人。孩子，做个好人，否则这次我们会像统治你们1000年一样统治你们。

@ahmeddurrani1513
Rattling is just for social media

闲聊只是为了社交媒体。

@mdmokbulmolla7605
Turkey dismissed Greece

土耳其干掉了希腊。

@sabrituncbilek4789
Don't provocate, greece is relaing on western countrys and provocating Türkiye. Iff greece wans to increes border by his own to 6 miles than Türkiye will declair ware to greece. Whene Türkiye inwolve in this war there will be no greece.

不要挑衅，希腊依赖西方国家并挑衅土耳其。如果希腊想自行扩大边界到6英里，那么土耳其将向希腊宣战。当土耳其卷入这场战争时，希腊将不复存在。
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@yadibalderlou1443
These two old nation have to come to come sciences ,the world is in turmoil enough

这两个古老的国家必须走向理性，世界已经足够动荡了。

@vedatuzunlu8869
Do you want us to fight?

你想让我们战斗吗？

@kehkah2120
Greeks must abonden the islands

希腊人必须放弃这些岛屿。
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@ΔημοςΛιακος
Why?

为什么？

@kehkah2120
bcuz it's jot theirs..
No point having a island that is 500 mener to Turkish ground and ist like 1000 km from athena ??
Does that make sence to u ?????
Beside u only 5 million ppl ..
We are 100 million
U don't need that much island and lands..Just give freely the Turkish lands and island back

因为那不是他们的。拥有一个离土耳其地面500米、离雅典大约1000公里的岛屿毫无意义。这对你有意义吗？此外，你们只有500万人。我们有1亿人。你们不需要那么多岛屿和土地，只需自由地归还土耳其的土地和岛屿。

@ΔημοςΛιακος
of course it makes sense to me. It is Greek territory

当然对我来说有意义。这是希腊的领土。

@ΔημοςΛιακος
you should give Smyrna, Ephesus or Halicarnassus back to Greece. The are only 500 m away from the Greek islands after all

你应该将士麦那、以弗所或哈利卡纳苏斯归还给希腊。毕竟它们离希腊岛屿只有500米。

@hhnationn5879
NO WAR

不要战争。

@rodeo4-p6u
Take your armies and leave my land
I like your land I think I'll stay..

带上你的军队，离开我的土地。我喜欢你的土地，我想我会留下来。

@gregoryjudie7704
Show respect it's turkieye

表现出尊重，这是土耳其。

@Šajze
H a h a ..

哈哈。。

@stevetodorovski9840
France, England, Germany will protect Greece like protecting their own eyes!

法国、英国、德国会像保护自己的眼睛一样保护希腊！
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@ruzgar_adam
No one protects another, history is full of examples of this, how will NATO and the US soon give up on defending Ukraine and leave them alone with their fate because they always do this?

没有人保护别人，历史上有很多这样的例子，北约和美国如何会很快放弃捍卫乌克兰，让他们独自面对命运，因为他们总是这样做？

@atakansakarya5795
They are blinds.

他们是盲人。

@SSMasseus
LİKE POOR UKRAİNE ?

喜欢可怜的乌克兰？

@wesleyverhaegen9513
Ww3

第三次世界大战

@robmcnaughton6918
Akkuyu changes the rules ... most especially as China and Russia are involved, rather than the EU and its sanctions.

阿克库尤核电站改变了规则……特别是中国和俄罗斯的参与，而不是欧盟及其制裁。

@vasilioskyriakidis2559
There’s no rational reason for Greece to go to court to negotiate what it already is entitled to under International Law.

希腊没有理性的理由去法院谈判它根据国际法已经有权获得的东西。
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@pandreou9382
What you describe as "Cyprus crisis" was a military invasion and still illegal occupation.

你所描述的“塞浦路斯危机”是一场军事入侵，仍然是非法占领。

@HarendraPandey-o5b
India supports Greece.

印度支持希腊。

@Bandidat
As a Turk, why make war instead of peace? I hope our governments don't do anything stupid and we live in peace for years!

作为土耳其人，为什么要制造战争而不是和平？我希望我们的政府不要做任何愚蠢的事情，我们多年来都能和平相处！

@Giannis_Sarafis
Exactly! Selam, my friend!

完全正确！你好，我的朋友！

@maiku7648
Well said, komşu

说得好，邻居。

@DimitrisGiannakopoulos-h4l
agreed

同意。

@OrestisSiouutis
Because we have Petroleum under the sea

因为我们海底有石油。

@michaelgenias8491
Very simplistic view Turkey is the aggressor here Greece is no threat to Turkey we are defending our internationally recognised borders on land sea and air. Why would we arm if we were not threatened?

非常简单化的观点，土耳其在这里是侵略者，希腊对土耳其没有威胁，我们在捍卫我们在陆地、海洋和空中的国际认可边界。如果我们不受威胁，为什么要武装？

@kamgold8467
Kurdistan supports Greece

库尔德斯坦支持希腊

@granatapfel6661
Kurdistan will be a whole land again third part of nowadays turkey

库尔德斯坦将再次成为一片完整的土地，占现在土耳其的三分之一。

@Aytacgurbuz06
Where is Kurdistan

库尔德斯坦在哪里

@RepairerOfthebreach-zf5th
Greece supports Kurdistan

希腊支持库尔德斯坦
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@TurquazCannabiz
that place doesn’t even exist, how do you think you can support them?

那个地方甚至不存在，你认为你怎么能支持他们？

@davidaxelos4678
If You smoke enough cannabiz, Kurds transform into mountain Turks and Turks into Coast-Arnenians!

如果你吸了足够多的大麻，库尔德人会变成山地土耳其人，土耳其人会变成海岸亚美尼亚人！

@TurquazCannabiz
sounds like you smoked a little too much of something

听起来你可能吸了太多某种东西
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@davidaxelos4678
Says the fascist cannaboy!!!

自称法西斯的大麻男孩说的！！！

@janjaqruso3052
We Turks dont want war! Everybody can live in his/her territories in peace. No need to lose our sons, husbands, brothers for ambitions of presidents. I say this to Greeks too!

我们土耳其人不想要战争！每个人都可以在自己的领土上和平生活。没有必要为了总统的野心而失去我们的儿子、丈夫、兄弟。我也对希腊人这么说！

@geogeo2299
Well since Erdi gets elected on the wheel, there's not much peaceful Turks can do.

既然埃尔多安当选了，和平的土耳其人就无能为力了。
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@treloskounoupas8135
we dont want that too. so why this is going on ?

我们也不想要那样。那么为什么会这样呢？
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@VasileiosG
then don't ask for something that doesn't belong to you! You Turks as a people are fine but you have a big problem of Islamic power and expansion! You have to say that being in Europe was a great joy for us, we don't have to divide anything, we have a lot to win together!

那就不要要求不属于你的东西！你们土耳其人作为一个民族很好，但你们有一个巨大的伊斯兰力量和扩张的问题！你们必须说，身处欧洲对我们来说是一种巨大的喜悦，我们不需要分裂任何东西，我们有很多共同的利益！

@DimitrisGiannakopoulos-h4l
love your message

喜欢你的信息。

@HansJackson-e9n
People in the comments really act like half of Turkey didn't vote against Erdo?

评论中的人们真的表现得好像土耳其一半的人没有投票反对埃尔多安？

@alexman378
No, they’re acting like half did vote for him. That’s the one we can’t and shouldn’t ignore.

不，他们表现得好像一半的人投票给了他。这是我们不能也不应该忽视的。

@ThomasGazis
You somehow present Greece and Turkey on equal terms, as if they were two equivalent powers that have been neighbors for thousands of years. In reality, Turkey is the unilateral aggressor here! It has always been an aggressive, expansionist, militarized country, ever since the Turks came in this area from Mongolia (!) and started invading Anatolia (modern Turkey), pillaging and usurping the Greek-Byzantine lands (Anatolia, Constantinople etc.—which were Greek-Byzantine back then)!

你不知为何将希腊和土耳其平等对待，好像它们是两个等同的力量，已经邻居了几千年。实际上，土耳其在这里是单方面的侵略者！自从土耳其人从蒙古来到这个地区并开始入侵安纳托利亚（现代土耳其），洗劫并篡夺希腊-拜占庭的土地（安纳托利亚、君士坦丁堡等——那时都是希腊-拜占庭的）以来，它一直是一个侵略性、扩张性、军事化的国家！

Today Turkey is a Goliath in respect to Greece, in every sense (their population is 8 times higher, their military is one of the strongest in the world, and they are one of the biggest sellers of military weapons!). So, Greece is the absolutely weak part in this case! Not to mention that Greece is a totally peaceful country while Turkey is behaving super-aggressively - even to the point of publicly announcing that Turkey is entitled to invade and usurp half of the Aegean sea and all the millennia old Greek islands comprised in it!
P.S. What you call "the 1974 Cyprus conflict" wasn't a simple "conflict" but a single sided, barbaric, military invasion of Turkey in Cyprus, an invasion condemned by the UN and the international community!

今天，土耳其在各方面都是希腊的巨人（人口是希腊的8倍，军队是世界上最强大的之一，也是最大的军火销售国之一！）。所以，在这种情况下，希腊是绝对的弱者！更不用说希腊是一个完全和平的国家，而土耳其行为极具侵略性——甚至公开宣布土耳其有权入侵并篡夺爱琴海的一半及其中所有有千年历史的希腊岛屿！
附言：你所说的“1974年塞浦路斯冲突”不是简单的“冲突”，而是土耳其对塞浦路斯的单方面、野蛮的军事入侵，这一入侵被联合国和国际社会谴责！

@TurquazCannabiz
Türkiye's ancestors were defeated by the Chinese, fled here, and have been trying to seize new lands, this is history

土耳其的祖先被中国人击败，逃到了这里，一直试图夺取新的土地，这就是历史

@ThomasGazis
maybe in your single-sided mind you would like it to be like that! The UN though and the entire world (even the Turkic countries who unconditionally support Turkey), all the countries of the world have condemned the barbaric Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974!

也许在你片面的思维中你希望事情就是那样！然而，联合国和全世界（甚至无条件支持土耳其的突厥国家），世界上所有国家都谴责了1974年土耳其对塞浦路斯的野蛮入侵！

@TurquazCannabiz
so you think it is normal what happened to the Turkish citizens of Cyprus, before the invasion? The invasion which Turkey had the right to do according to the Cypriot constitution, because of the coup in Greece?

那么你认为入侵前发生在塞浦路斯土耳其公民身上的事情是正常的吗？根据塞浦路斯宪法，土耳其有权进行这次入侵，因为希腊发生了政变？

@panstantzos3013
those skirmishes was nothing compare to the extermination of the Greek population of Constantinople in the same period of time

那些小冲突与同一时期君士坦丁堡希腊人口的灭绝相比毫无意义。

@TurquazCannabiz
you are all a bunch of hypocrites. Believe whatever fits your narrative

你们都是一群伪君子。相信任何符合你们叙述的事情。

@KingArthurBrit
Turkish people lived in the Scythians in Eastern Europe. They didnt come from Mongolia.. mr ignorant

土耳其人生活在东欧的斯基泰人中。他们不是来自蒙古的突厥人……无知的先生。

@KingArthurBrit
Greece was Ottoman territory for 400 years and you are still free to speak your language. And throughout history, the Turkish war the Mongols many times. You should be grateful for that because if it not for the Turkish people, your blood would most likely carry the DNA of a Mongol soldier.

希腊是奥斯曼帝国的领土长达400年，你们仍然可以自由地说你们的语言。在整个历史中，土耳其人多次与蒙古人作战。你们应该对此感激，因为如果不是土耳其人，你们的血液很可能会携带蒙古士兵的DNA。

@keyeah0
did you go to school when you were younger?!?!

你年轻的时候上过学吗？！？！

@rongeorge574
If Israel can have back Palastine, why can't Greece have back Turkey? It's their religious homeland, the Sophia Church was there for 400 years before the Turks stole it

如果以色列可以收回巴勒斯坦，为什么希腊不能收回土耳其？那是他们的宗教故乡，索菲亚教堂在土耳其夺取之前已经存在了400年。
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@GS-pf8kf
900 years!

900年！

@islammehmeov2334
Because GEYREEKS are not israHELL and TURKIYE is not Palestine

因为希腊人不是以色列地狱，土耳其也不是巴勒斯坦。

@TurquazCannabiz
come and take it back then

那就来拿回来吧