欧美博主：《黑神话》越来越疯狂了(下)

@TheRisingDevil5598 I swear growing up I heard a story of wukong being transform into a human with his memory lost. Then one of the spider sister fell in love with him but he did not feel the same so she was married off to the demon King. But she had a twin sister who swap place with her and help wukong free her twin sister who was in love with him.

我发誓，我小时候听过一个故事，讲的是悟空失去了记忆，变成了人类。故事里，某个蜘蛛精对他心生爱慕，但悟空并不爱她，结果她被迫嫁给了魔王。不过，她有一个双胞胎姐妹，这个姐妹与她调换了身份，协助悟空救出了真正爱着他的那个双胞胎姐妹

@gonku What does the animation in Chapter 3 want to express? Greed? No, it's just appearances. That monster is Yellowbrow. He uses extreme means to induce greed. He wanted to prove to Jinchanzi that he was right. Jinchanzi said he reversed cause and effect. And the chapter 3 is still Yellowbrow wants to prove himself right.Although the methods are still extreme

第三章的动画想要传达的是什么？是贪婪吗？不，这只是表面现象。那个怪物其实是黄眉。他采用了极端的手段来激发贪婪。他想要向金蝉子证明他是正确的。金蝉子说他把因果关系搞反了。而第三章的核心仍然是黄眉想要证明自己的观点是正确的，不过他采用的方法依然很极端。

@noonport9415 Which is ironic the animation shows that the villagers shared the treasure with each other, the soldiers maintained order, ppl worshiped him as a kind god and taking treasure one piece for a family and they weren't even asking for more , everything was in perfect order, and all that does not prove "human born with kindness" for him. Then finally that one greedy drop breed chaos and destroyed all, he take it as his wining that "human born with evil".

具有讽刺意味的是，动画中村民们互相分享宝藏，士兵们维持秩序，人们将他视为仁慈的神，并拿走一件宝藏作为家庭所需，他们甚至没有索求更多，一切都显得和谐有序。然而，这一切并没有让他相信‘人性本善’。最终，正是那一丝贪婪引发了混乱并破坏了一切，黄眉却将此视为自己胜利的证据，坚信‘人性本恶’

@shiroemon4290 It's nice that he's letting ppl guide him to all of the secret bosses, you don't know how awesome the game is without fighting everything and getting the true ending.

他让别人引导他找到所有隐藏的Boss，这真不错。毕竟如果没有挑战所有敌人并体验真正的结局的话，你就无法真正感受到这款游戏的精彩之处。

@alexk5772 Jin Chanzi is Tang Sanzang. The master of Sun Wukong in Journey to the West. And the Yaoguai in the CG is Yellow Brow. Yellow Brow is Tang Sanzang's senior brother. Yellow Brow believed that human nature was evil, while Tang Sanzang believed that human nature was good, so the two made a bet that Tang Sanzang would travel the mortal world, While Yellow Brow would transform into a YaoGuai that could grant wealth and health to humans. When wealth and health can be easily obtained, it will make humans greedy and eventually turn into a tragic ending. The YaoGuai was killed by humans and his body was also divided to obtain more wealth. In fact, the first person who rushed out was also bewitched by Yellow Brow's magic.. In order to prove that human nature is evil and to win the bet with Jin Chanzi, Yellow Brow used a very dishonorable method.

金蝉子是唐僧，也就是《西游记》中孙悟空的师傅。而过场动画中的妖怪是黄眉老祖。黄眉老祖是唐僧的师兄。 黄眉老祖认为人性本恶，而唐僧则相信人性本善，因此两人打赌，唐僧将游历人间，而黄眉老祖则会变成一个能够给予人类财富和健康的妖怪。 当财富和健康可以轻易获得时，它会使人类变得贪婪，最终走向悲惨的结局。妖怪最终被人类杀害，他的身体也被分割以获取更多的财富。实际上，第一个冲出去的人也被黄眉老祖的魔法迷惑了。为了证明人性本恶，并赢得与金蝉子的赌约，黄眉老祖采用了一种非常不光彩的手段。

When they met again, Tang Sanzang thought that Yellow Brow's desire to win was too strong and he used the wrong means. It was very ridiculous and sad to prove the cause with the result. Each chapter of this game has some stories, and each story explores the good and evil of living beings. Chapter 2 talks about Buddha, YaoGuais, humans, and beasts. Lingji Bodhisattva believes that the fate and class of each living being are determined from birth, and no one can change it at will. The fox in the CG believes that people who are afraid of YaoGuais are more terrifying than the YaoGuais themselves. The subtext is that whether a living being is a human or a beast, a Buddha or a YaoGuai, Is determined by his heart. (After the CG, go back to find the fox and you can hear the last paragraph.) Chapter 1 talks about greed. Money brings glory to the little monk, and then he begins to lose his original heart and eventually becomes a YaoGuai who abandons Buddhism.

当他们再次相遇时，唐僧认为黄眉老祖的胜负欲太强，他使用了错误的方法。用结果来证明原因，这是非常荒谬和悲哀的。 这款游戏的每个章节都包含一些故事，每个故事都探讨了生物的善恶。 第二章讲述了佛、妖怪、人类和野兽。灵吉菩萨认为每个生物的命运和等级是出生时就决定的，没有人可以随意改变。过场动画中的狐狸认为害怕妖怪的人比妖怪本身更可怕。这里的潜台词是，一个生物是人还是野兽，是佛还是妖怪，是由他的内心决定的。（在过场动画结束后，回去找狐狸，你可以听到最后一段话。） 第一章讲述了贪婪。金钱给小和尚带来了荣耀，然后他开始失去初心，最终变成了一个放弃佛道的妖怪。

@lan-hwang I would clarify that Yellow Brow is Tang Sanzang's "Dharma Brother", rather than brother by blood which can be confused with english translation. they may have shared the same Shifu (Mater/Teacher) in Buddist Practice.

我想指出，黄眉老祖与唐僧是“佛法同门兄弟”的关系，并非血缘上的兄弟，这一点在英文翻译中可能会造成误解。 他们可能在佛教修行中拜同一位师父。

@jeremyye9991 @lan-hwang They are all in the Buddhist sect. Yellow Brow is a disciple of Maitreya Buddha, while Jinchanzi（Tang Sanzang） is a disciple of the Buddha. They are in the same school but have different mentors.

他们都是佛教宗派的成员。黄眉老祖是弥勒佛的弟子，而金蝉子（唐僧）则是佛陀的弟子。他们虽然同属一宗，但师从不同的佛。

@hippocreation Wukong does not need GOTY. GOTY needs Wukong.

悟空不需要年度最佳游戏（GOTY）的认可。 应该说，年度最佳游戏（GOTY）需要《黑悟空》的加入。

@ARandomLetterA Wukong needs no awards or fancy titles, Wukong just wanna live, laugh, fight for fun game.

悟空并不追求奖项或显赫的名号，他只想要自由地生活，开心地笑，为了游戏的乐趣而战斗。

@PewPew_McPewster Honestly, what IS the TGA GOTY Nomination roll going to look like? All Asian games? Cuz the only Western AAA games put out are... checks notes Star Wars Outlaws and Assassin's Creed Black Shadow? Helldivers 2 if we're counting multiplayer. Asian contenders we're looking are FFVII Rebirth, Elden Ring SOTE, Black Myth Wukong, Dragon's Dogma 2, Stellar Blade?Palworld if they want to really stir controversy. An Asian game is taking TGA GOTY 2024.

说真的，今年的TGA年度最佳游戏提名名单会是怎样的？难道全是亚洲游戏吗？因为目前西方推出的3A大作……看看记录，也就《星球大战:亡命之徒(Star Wars Outlaws)》和《刺客信条:暗影》；如果我们考虑多人游戏，可能还有《绝地潜兵2》。在亚洲的竞争者中，我们期待的有《最终幻想7：重生》， 《艾尔登法环-黄金树之影》，《黑神话：悟空》，《龙之信条2》，《剑星》》。如果他们想要引起一些争议，可能会加入《帕拉世界》（Paraworld）。 看起来，2024年的TGA年度最佳游戏将很可能由一款亚洲游戏夺得。

@TheLivetuner

The Chapter 3 end cutscene is actually like a Zen Kōan 禪宗公案 in animated form, they are morally and narratively ambiguous in nature, there are many layers and angles of how one could interpret it: Is this really about a debate of how humans are inherently good or evil? Is this about how Yellow Brow sealed his own fate by his propensity to manipulate karma, as demonstrated by this episode? Or is this about revealing something deeper about the lore and the events leading up to the unravelling before we launched the game? The interpretations are endless and unique to everyone who experiences it. 第三章的结尾过场动画，其实可以看作是一种动画化的禅宗公案，它们在道德和叙事上都故意留有模糊空间，可以从多个层面和不同角度进行解读：这是否真正关乎于人类天性本善还是本恶的辩论？这是否讲述了黄眉如何因其操纵因果的倾向而自掘坟墓，正如这一章节所展示的？或者，这是否在揭示一些更深层次的背景故事和事件，这些事件是游戏开始前逐渐展开的？这些解读是无穷无尽的，并且对每个体验这段动画的人来说都是独一无二的。

@ChrisS-rt3ow This game is not just fun to play, with nice art and most importantly make you think... I won't say this game will 100% get the GOTY but this is definitely a big milestone in the game industry.

这款游戏不仅趣味性强，艺术表现上乘，更重要的是，它能够激发玩家的思考……我不会断言这款游戏必定能获得年度最佳游戏（GOTY），但这绝对是游戏业界的一个重要里程碑。

@user-vx6ro4jf4z Action game of the year for sure

绝对是年度最佳动作游戏

@akiyamato3299 After playing the game, the story it tells, 15M sold, culture exported, does the GOTY title actually matter?

在体验了这款游戏所讲述的故事、见证了其1500万份的销量和文化传播之后，年度最佳游戏的称号真的那么重要吗？

@delusionalt630 For me the only downside is the bullshit rng you need getting some curios, gear pieces and plant seeds

在我看来，唯一的不足之处在于，获取某些奇珍异宝、装备部件和植物种子时所需的那些令人烦恼的随机性机制。

@MajinII I would give it the GOTY for sure, but a Chinese game for an American reward, don't count on that to much.

我肯定会选它为年度最佳游戏，但考虑到这是一款中国游戏，对于美国奖项的期待，还是不要太过乐观。

@shitaolin9439 Probably not GOTY, but Solid best action game of this year

虽然可能无缘年度最佳游戏（GOTY），但无疑是今年的最佳动作游戏。

@danielportillo1349 Once I saw the stop motion animation..... I knew, that hasn't been done in a game imo I don't think. So that made me know.

当我看到那定格动画时……我就确信，据我所知，这种技术在游戏中还从未被采用过。这让我印象深刻。

@caseyblankenship987 It’s ff7 rebirth for me. It’s a different type of combat system but still one of the best ones ever made. Also amazing characters and insane story

我选《最终幻想7：重生》。它的战斗系统虽然与众不同，但仍然是有史以来最好的之一。加上那些出色的角色和令人难以置信的故事。

@Kumire_921 Tf you mean not GOTY, what else is there in 2024? Metaphor is a huge candidate but i still say Wukong deserves it because of the story.

如果你认为它不是年度最佳游戏（GOTY），那2024年还有什么能比得上？《METAPHOR》是个强有力的竞争者，但我依然认为《黑悟空》因其故事而更值得这个奖项。

@Kumire_921 @caseyblankenship987 If ff7 rebirth is even a candidate i'll laugh at the goty awards show, i mean it's already a joke but come on.

如果《最终幻想7：重生》都能成为候选，那年度最佳游戏颁奖典礼简直可笑，它已经够荒谬的了。

@fearan9406 space marine 2 next week well see wont we, its the only real competition i think

下周的《星际战士2》，我们拭目以待，我认为它可能是唯一的真正对手。

@iampower5547 The downside is that its linear and not open world and so many invisible walls ruining immersion abit but its a classic and goty for sure

美中不足的是，游戏是线性流程而非开放世界，而且众多的隐形墙在一定程度上影响了沉浸体验，但它绝对是一部经典作品，毫无疑问将获得年度最佳游戏（GOTY）。

@Dumb-Comment I love playing sim games, this game is extremely boring to me, but I wouldn't say it's not fun because I'm not the target audience Also GOTY will never be a Chinese game for sure, especially with such high political tension between the US and China

我喜欢玩模拟游戏，但这款对我来说相当乏味，不过我不会说它无趣，毕竟我不是它的目标玩家群体。而且可以肯定的是，年度最佳游戏（GOTY）不太可能落到中国游戏头上，尤其是在当前中美之间政治关系如此紧张的情况下。

@Mohgenstein Big milestone how? It’s a fun action game with some solid and flashy boss fights . It does absolutely nothing innovative though. Nothing that pushes the industry forwards. Does nothing that hasn’t been done before. It’s combat isn’t complex. It’s level design is amateurish, I’ve seen better level design in indie souls likes. It’s bosses are the best part and still it’s not like they’re groundbreaking.

怎么能称之为重要里程碑呢？它不过是一款动作游戏，有几场精彩的Boss战。但它并没有带来任何创新。没有推动行业前进的元素。它没有做任何前所未有的事情。它的战斗系统并不复杂。它的关卡设计很初级，我在一些独立游戏中见过更好的。它的Boss战是最棒的部分，但也算不上是开创性的。

@Mohgenstein @maxchen9185 Rebirth has 92% critic score. You’re delusional if think think Wukong will win with a 81% critic score when the lowest rated game in game awards history has a 88%. Hell, the lowest nominated game has a 83%, Wukong would literally be the lowest rated game ever in game awards history

《重生》获得了92%的评论家好评。如果你们认为只有81%好评的《悟空》能够胜出，那你们真是太不现实了。毕竟，游戏奖历史上评分最低的游戏也有88%。说真的，即便是评分最低的提名游戏也有83%，《悟空》如果真的获奖，将会是游戏奖历史上评分最低的年度最佳游戏。

@vietnam2013 Honestly if this isnt GOTY then I dont know what is. Everything else out there at the moment is either Woke rubbish or generic crap.

坦白说，如果这款游戏都不算年度最佳游戏（GOTY），那我真的不知道什么才算是了。目前市面上的其他游戏，要么是充满说教的垃圾，要么是千篇一律的糟粕。

@codrs2662 Just wish it had the movement of Elden ring in the sense of me being able to jump over a pile of snow. If the game could do that it would be literally perfect still goty tho

我只是希望它能有像《艾尔登法环》那样的移动机制，比如能够让我跳过雪堆。如果游戏能做到这一点，那它就完美了，即便如此，它仍然是年度最佳游戏的有力竞争者。

@BiriBiri925 They won't give Wukong Game of the Year just on principle. You'll see. Because this game and its developers don't give a damn about "modern western values". Who takes these awards seriously anyway.

他们不会仅仅基于原则就把年度最佳游戏颁给《黑悟空》。等着瞧吧。因为这款游戏和它的开发者根本不理会那些‘现代西方价值观’。反正，谁还会真的把这些奖项当回事呢？

@takezosensei The cutscene was deep! It captured the term "greed" so well.

过场动画很深刻!它很好地诠释了“贪婪”这个词。

@CypCyp-wj3rz As a Chinese player, I don’t give a fk on GOTY, but more on how players from other countries feel like the game. It means more for us to know that western players enjoy the game and you understand the story. It really makes me feel like we are all the same. I hate all that shit about politics and stickers making fun of our leader( Cus I think he is doing well on his job). There’s a lot of suffer from us Chinese tortured by Japanese army, to a peaceful society that people can able to making a 3A game which pleasure the world. I think western countries should aware that this is a country that it’s age younger than Trump, but we jumped really fast. There might be some historical mistakes between, but no one ignored or denied it, and we will make it better.

作为一名中国玩家，我并不在意《黑悟空》是否获得年度最佳游戏的称号，更关心的是其他国家的玩家如何看待这款游戏。对我们来说，知道西方玩家喜欢这款游戏并理解其中的故事，这才是更有意义的。这让我感到我们其实是一样的。我厌倦了那些关于政治的争论，以及嘲笑我们领导人的表情包（因为我认为他在履行职责方面做得很好）。中国经历了日本军队的残酷侵略，最终发展成一个和平的社会，现在我们可以制作出让全世界都喜爱的3A游戏。我认为西方国家应该意识到，这是一个比特朗普还年轻的国家，但我们的进步非常迅速。虽然历史上可能存在一些错误，但没有人忽视或否认这些问题，我们会努力做得更好。

@ItsukaShimotsuki It's more adjacent to the debate of "nature vs. nurture" imo. "Are human inherently bad, i.e. bad by nature, regardless of the outside conditions? Or is the problem being the absence of a decent environment (i.e. presence of temptation, as Yellowbrow has posed)?" I recall some sociological studies I've read about correlation between zipcode of birth and well-to-do in adulthood. Are we just going to conclude that those born in such-and-such zipcodes were predetermined to be poor, that being poor is in their nature, or is there something more to it? Something overarching and structural that's beyond individual's reach?

在我看来，这更接近于“先天vs后天”的辩论。 人类是否天生就具有恶劣的本性，不受外界条件影响？还是问题出在缺乏一个良好的成长环境，比如黄眉所提到的充满诱惑的环境？ 我记得我读过一些社会学研究，它们探讨了出生时的邮政编码与成年后的经济状况之间的关联。我们难道只能得出这样的结论：那些出生在某些邮政编码区域的人注定要贫穷，贫穷是他们的天性，还是有更深层次的原因？是不是存在一些超出个人控制范围的、更广泛的结构性问题？

@warren567 Although Huang Mei's method of proving that humans are greedy is despicable, the fact that countless people became even more greedy because of the first person's behavior is also a powerful proof. The latter people could have arrested the first person according to the law, but their greed overcame morality.

虽然黄眉用来证明人类贪婪的手段令人不齿，但正是因为第一个人的行为，导致无数人变得更加贪婪，这同样是一个强有力的证据。后来的人本可以依法制止第一个人，但他们的贪婪却超越了道德的界限。

@alicelenn7579 ? @warren567 no it's not a powerful proof. By that point everyone's already pushed to their limit. Didn't you see the subtle manipulation the turtle was doing? He deliberately made them dependent only to him. He even destroyed their source of living, the fishing boats. He made them desperate because he wants to win. He wants to be proven right. At first, the people were good to him but he didn't take it as proof of kindness. So he pushed and pushed until he got what he wanted. That's why the monk at the end said that what he did was "absurd and pathetic".

不，这并不能成为有力的证据。那时，每个人都已经被逼至极限。你没有注意到乌龟在暗中操纵吗？他刻意让村民只依赖他一人。他甚至破坏了他们生计的来源——渔船。他让他们陷入绝望，因为他想要取胜，他想要证明自己是对的。最初，人们对他很友好，但他并没有将这看作是善良的证明。因此，他不断施压，直到达到了他的目的。这就是为什么最后那位僧人说他的行为是“荒谬而可悲”的。

@alicelenn7579 ? @warren567 i'll give you examples: 1) i accused you of being violent. So to prove it, i antagonized you and punched you. Then you punched me back in retaliation/self defense. I shouted "see? I am right that you are violent". 2) i put bread in front of a beggar who's been starving for days now. I said "you beggars are shameless and are all glutton". The beggar not caring ate the food. I said "see? I am right". Those scenarios i only cared about being proved right. That's what the turtle did.

我指控你暴力，为了证明这一点，我先挑衅你，还打了你一拳。你出于还击或自卫也打了我。然后我就大喊：“看吧？我说你暴力，没错吧。” 我对一个饿了好几天的乞丐说：“你们这些乞丐真是不知羞耻，都是贪吃的人。”然后在他面前放了一块面包。乞丐因为饥饿不顾一切地吃了面包。我随即说：“看吧？我说的没错。” 在这些情况下，我关心的只是证明自己的观点是正确的。乌龟做的也是类似的事情。

@DreamskyDance @warren567 i dont think his method is despicable. Humans are like that by nature and he prooved it fair and square. I mean, what would happen if i leave my account number nad ccv in this comment section... another proof. You can say i was being dumb or setting up others to steal, but at the end of the day if people arent greedy i wouldnt have anything to worry about.

我并不觉得他的做法有什么不妥。人类天性就是如此，而他用公正的方式证明了这一点。 比如说，如果我在这个评论区域留下自己的银行账号和信用卡CVV码……这将会是另一个证明。你可能会说我这样做很愚蠢，或者在故意引诱人们去偷，但说到底，如果人们不贪婪，我就不需要担心任何事情。