关于印度的教育体系，人们应该了解些什么?（下）

Vijay Mishra
What's your opinion on the educational system of India?
It is outdated. Our education system needs reforms. We can generate good employees but we cannot generate those who generate jobs. The education provided in IIM’s and IIT's are far excellent and we need that same system for schools. Creativity dies in school. Very few schools favour creativity. Teachers are also orthodox , they encourage students only for getting high marks not for to being creative.
 
你对印度的教育体系有何看法？
它已经过时了。我们的教育体系需要改革。我们能够培养出优秀的员工，但我们无法培养出创造就业机会的人才。印度管理学院（IIM）和印度理工学院（IIT）的教育质量远远超出其他学校，我们需要将这种体系推广到普通学校中。在学校里，创造力正逐渐消失。很少有学校鼓励学生的创造性思维。教师们也往往过于传统，他们鼓励学生追求高分，而没有去鼓励学生培养创新能力。
 
Sunil Umesh
Indian education system, especially professional education, is probably among the worst and most flawed in the world. The over-emphasis on theory is simply ridiculous. Premier institutes like IITs and IIMs may be exceptions, but not by a large stretch.
To score good grades in India, an excellent memory is much more useful than good skills or talent. Someone with really good memory but mediocre skills, can easily get very good grades by memorizing the textbook and reproducing it in his exams. On the other hand, someone having good skills but poor memory almost always ends up with average or poor grades.
 
印度的教育体系，尤其是专业教育，可能是世界上最糟糕、最有问题的体系之一。对理论的过分强调简直荒谬。像印度理工学院（IIT）和印度管理学院（IIM）这样的顶尖学府或许是例外，但它们的优势并不明显。
在印度，要想取得好成绩，拥有出色的记忆力比拥有良好的技能或才华更有用。一个记忆力出众但技能平平的人，可以通过背诵教科书并在考试中复现知识来轻松获得高分。相反，一个技能娴熟但记忆力一般的人往往只能得到平庸甚至糟糕的成绩。
 
The worst part is, the companies over here use academic record (which is an indication of of the candidate's memory much more than skills) while hiring candidates. So even if a person is highly skilled, it is almost impossible for him to give a flying start to his career if he doesn't have a good academic record. I have come across so many people who get into top companies based on their excellent academic record, but struggle with their jobs because of poor practical knowledge.
Once a person gets employed, he won't be asked to write several pages of theory and then be paid his salary based on how well he writes. He needs to work practically.
 
最糟糕的是，公司在招聘时会参考学术成绩（这更多地反映了应聘者的记忆力而非技能），因此即使一个人技能高超，如果他的学术成绩不佳，他在职业生涯起步时也几乎不可能取得成功。我遇到过很多人，他们因为优秀的学术成绩进入了顶尖公司，但由于缺乏实践知识，他们在工作中遭遇困境。
一旦被录用，员工不会被要求撰写大量理论，而是需要实际工作能力来获得薪酬。
 
I can think of an analogy here, which sums up the abysmal Indian education system. Suppose a person is asked to take a theory examination on driving a car. He has very good memory, and so he studies a book for this and clears the exam with a top grade. But if he is actually asked to drive a car, he is likely to crash it. In spite of this, employers would prefer this guy over someone who has failed this theory exam on car driving, although he is an expert in actually driving a car.
Don't even get me started on the atrocious caste-based reservation, which allows lazy bums who can't get their heads out of their butts to actually compete with others in a fair way, and use their 'caste' as an excuse to get all the benefits easily.
 
这里有一个比喻可以概括印度教育体系的不足：假设一个人需要参加一场关于驾驶汽车的理论考试。他记忆力很好，因此他通过学习书籍并通过了考试，且获得了最高分。但如果他真的去开车，他很可能会撞车。尽管如此，雇主们仍然会优先考虑这个理论考试高分的人，而不是考虑那些理论考试不及格但实际驾驶技术娴熟的人。
更不用说基于种姓的预留制度是多么糟糕，它让那些不愿意努力的人可以轻易地利用他们的“种姓”作为借口（而不必通过公平竞争）来获得好处。
 
I definitely would NEVER recommend anyone to study in India beyond 12th grade (except maybe in premier institutions), provided he/she has sufficient financial resources to study abroad. If not, then self educating oneself would still be much better than attending a a higher education course in India. If a degree is still needed on paper, it can very easily be 'purchased' through dubious means. After all, with the rampant corruption in the country, buying a degree is no big deal here.
 
我绝对不会推荐任何人在印度接受超过12年级的教育（除非是在顶尖学府）——如果他们有足够的财力出国留学的话。如果没有，那么自学也比在印度接受高等教育要好得多。如果还需要学位的话，在这里通过不正当手段“购买”一个学位是很容易的。毕竟，在这个腐败盛行的国家，买一个学位并不是什么难事。
 
Jake Yaegar
Indeed I found self learning more useful
 
的确，我发现自学更有用。
 
Aanchal Sharma
The curriculum do not train us to have a personality of our own. They do not make us confident, fearless, better in communication and hardly fulfill our needs for skills which are required of us to ‘make a mark in this world’.
Rote learning still plagues our system, students study only to score marks in exams, and sometimes to crack exams like IIT JEE, AIIMS or CLAT.
Millions of students are victim of an unrealistic, pointless, mindless rat race.
 
我们的课程并没有培养我们形成独立的人格。它们不能让我们变得自信、无畏、更好地沟通，也很难满足我们对“在这个世界上留下印记”所需要的技能的需求。
死记硬背仍然困扰着我们的教育体系，学生们学习只是为了在考试中获得分数，有时是为了通过像印度理工学院的联合入学考试、全印医学院考试或普通法入学考试这样的考试。
无数学生成为不切实际、无意义、盲目竞争的受害者。
 
There are thousands of mediocre and terrible schools, colleges and now even universities that do not meet even minimum standards.
Education system rarely rewards what deserves highest academic accolades. Deviance is discouraged. Risk taking is mocked.
We are busy running the call centers of the rest of the world – that is where our engineering skills end.
Reservation in education because education is not available universally.
 
有成千上万的学校、学院，甚至大学，它们的水平连最低标准都达不到。
教育体系很少奖励真正值得学术荣誉的成就；不遵循常规被打压，冒险尝试被嘲笑。
我们忙于为世界其他地区运营呼叫中心——我们的工程技能仅此而已。
存在教育预留制度，因为教育并不是普遍可获得的。
 
Sayak Barman
The current scenario in our great Indian education system:-)
from Nursery education to middle school:-
Started to prepare a mindset to create a working class robot.
We are taught how to mug up what written in books.
we are taught the way of mugging up theory rather focusing on creativity and practical knowledge.
 
我们伟大的印度教育体系的现状：我们从幼儿园到中学，开始培养一种工作阶级机器人的心态。
我们被教导死记硬背书中的内容，而不是专注于创造力和实践知识。
 
Our education system is only consist of academics.Extra circular activity is like meaning less work or even doing extra circular is like joining bad company to our parents.
we are taught how to survive and compete in rat race and create thousand more cat race.
After middle school to high school:-
Crucial point of every Indian in this time secondary exam .
 
我们的教育体系只关注学术成绩，课外活动被看作是毫无意义的，甚至在父母眼中参与课外活动就像是加入了不良团体。
我们被教导如何在竞争中生存，创造更多的竞争。
从中学到高中的阶段，每个印度人都要面对中学考试这个关键时刻。
 
we are taught that failing here to achieve 90–95 means you are knocked out from race of life.Its better you die as you are going to survive in no where in future.
We cannot do good without joining science.
If you are taking arts means you are a failure.
Commerce are only the stream for children of business families(Marwari and Gujarati)
Even in science is about mugging up theory crack exams like JEE and medical.Join cram school for them.
 
我们被告知，如果在这里得不到90-95分，就意味着你被淘汰了。你最好去死，因为你将来在任何地方都无法生存。
不选择理科就很难取得好成就。
如果你学文科，就被认为是失败者。
商学似乎是商人家庭孩子（比如马尔瓦尔和古吉拉特族）的选择。
即便是理科，也主要是背诵理论知识，为了通过像JEE和医学考试这样的考试。因此，你得加入补习班。
 
There is no practicality in science stream.You are not allowed to think or creat. Just mug up what teacher taught or written in books.
Get good marks(min 95) in 12+ boards.
After 12 boards:-)
you are taught no stream is education except Engg. and medical(my parents even doesn’t consider Engg. as a education they told me this are education for plumbers and mechanic).
 
理科教育缺乏实践性。你不被鼓励去思考或创新，只需要机械地记忆老师讲授的或者书本上的内容。
在12年级的考试中要取得高分（至少95分）。
12年级之后：你被告知，除了工程和医学专业，其他的学科都不算真正的教育（我父母甚至不认为工程学是一种教育，他们告诉接受这方面的教育，只是为了做水管工和机械师）。
 
You are not allowed to join general stream.
Forgot about arts students up to this time they already nowhere as we are taught.
you will be get to know you are diverse by cast based education system.(Which is not based on poverty line)
After graduation:-)
You will be told life is all about money and job.
 
你不被允许选择普通学科。
到目前为止，文科学生已经被我们所教授的体系边缘化了。
你将意识到，你所接受的教育体系是基于种姓的多样性。（这并不是基于贫困线）
毕业后：
你会被告知，生活就是关于金钱和工作的。
 
you are forced to go for settled life and started the same theory for your children
what we miss in our education system is
the proper meaning of education.
To choose things with passion rather with pressure.
Proper meaning of reservation(reservation must be on family earning bass rather caste base)
 
你被迫去追求一种安定的生活，并且开始向你的孩子们灌输相同的理念。
我们的教育体系缺少的是对教育真正意义的理解。
我们应该是出于热情而非压力去选择学习的东西。
预留制度（应该基于家庭收入而不是种姓）的真正含义是什么？
 
we are becoming academically poor in studies( the passion for research or passion for create things.)
we are becoming poor in arts and culture.
even in politics(you hear correct) we are going bad…our country is country is filling up with uneducated leaders…
Main reason for unemployment is fault in capability of candidate.
 
我们在学习(对研究的热情或对创造的热情)方面变得越来越差。
我们在艺术和文化方面也在变得越来越差。
甚至在政治领域（你没听错）我们也在走下坡路……我们的国家正在被未受教育的领导者充斥……
失业的主要原因在于求职者能力的不足。
 
Pooja Mangal
It sucks.
You need to be good at memorising things then actually learning them.
Teachers are passouts who are just not passionate about what they do(in some universities)
Teachers feel a kind of pride by humiliating students and demotivating them(personal experience)
To be a good student you need to study hard is old concept,but you need to attain college regularly, follow the time wasting procedures, wait for teachers to come and to listen to their broken English (not all are same btw)
 
这真的很糟糕。
你需要善于记忆，然后真正去学习。
在一些大学，教师都是对自己所做的事情不感兴趣的学生。
老师有时会通过羞辱学生来获得优越感，这会打击学生的积极性（这是我的亲身经历）。
成为一个好学生，仅仅努力学习已经不够了，你还得定期去学校，遵循那些耗时的流程，等待老师的到来，听他们讲着不标准的英语（当然，并非所有老师都这样）。
 
Syllabus changes in 5 years no matter how upxed world is you'll learn what you have got.
Assignments and attendance is Grace of God.
Other thing skills are underrated but the main obxtive is shown as skills of the institutional obxtives.
So just don't depend on the system it can be good,can be bad but you need to be worth as we all know things need to change so better it comes from ourside first..
So just study smart, developed your skills and just learn from the environment as much you can.
 
不管世界如何发展，课程大纲五年才会更新，你只能学到过时的内容。
作业和出勤是上天的恩赐。
其他技能可能被低估，但关键在于这些技能是否符合机构的目标。
因此，不要单纯依赖系统，它可能有好有坏，但你需要证明自己的价值。我们都知道，改变是必要的，而最好从我们自己开始。
所以，要聪明地学习，提升你的技能，并尽可能多地从周围环境中学习。
 
Kabilan Kumar
In short the education system, if not riddled with corruption or lack of resources, aims to pull you up from laziness and down to productivity.
Thinking and feeling are problems for this hyper efficient system and is weeded out using sticks and carrots.
Maybe we'll end up robots 10 generations down the line because people who end up successful are the ones who follow, and they get to propagate their genes more easily than the 'others'.
 
简而言之，如果教育体系没有被腐败或资源匮乏所困扰，它的目的是让你摆脱懒惰，提高生产力。
在这个追求高效率的体系中，思考和感受成了问题，通常会用奖励和惩罚来解决。
也许在不远的将来，我们会变成机器人，因为那些遵循规则并取得成功的人更容易传承他们的基因。
 
Avinash Narayan
What is your opinion on education system in India?
The present education system in my view is not quite up to the mark. It needs amendments and flaws in it need to be dealt with.
From childhood we are taught to learn(or rather memorize) what's in the books.We become like frog in the well.We make the book our God and dedicate our mind, eyes and health to the worship of facts it provides.Our mind doesn't get the training to look beyond the shore.
 
你对印度的教育体系有什么看法？
在我看来，目前的教育体系还远远不够完善。它需要改革，需要解决其中的问题。
我们从小就被教育去学习（或者说是死记硬背）书本上的知识。我们的视野变得狭窄，就像井底之蛙。我们把书本当作至高无上的存在，将我们的心智、视力和健康都投入到对书中所提供事实的崇拜中。我们的思维并没有得到训练，去探索书本以外的世界。
 
Syllabus load & Exam stress- Remember the time you had your board exams (class 10th and 12th).My God!! The pressure we used to feel.We were told The marks would decide our future. How can anybody judge a student on basis of marks obtained in one or two exams? learning is not solely reflected by marks.
Engineering or Medical?? - who would tell the elders to look beyond these two drops in the ocean.There a plethora of options for careers and opportunities.Discover your interest. Do what you like and not what your parents want you to do.Find your passion and follow.
 
课程负担和考试压力——还记得你参加会考（10年级和12年级）的时候吗？那种压力真是难以承受。我们被告知分数将决定我们的未来。怎么可能仅凭一两次考试的成绩就评判一个学生呢？学习的价值远不止分数所能体现。
工程学还是医学？——为什么长辈们总是局限于这两个选择呢？职业和机会的选择是多样的。发现自己的兴趣，做你喜欢的事情，而不是做那些父母希望你做的。找到你的热情，然后追随它。
 
More Rote-learning, less creative learning- the race for good grades and marks and cramming before exams is quite rampant in today's school and college going children.Who cares to think out of the box? Being innovative doesn't fetch marks so why bother?
Each of us are life long learners.Education system should have a holistic approach.It should train him to help him earn and be satisfied at the heart. It should lead every individual to his passion, so that one understands himself properly and lead a blissful life.
 
在今天的学校和大学中，为了获得好成绩和分数，孩子们普遍采取死记硬背和考前突击的学习方式。谁还会去尝试打破常规、创新思考呢？毕竟，创新并不能直接转化为分数，所以很多人觉得没有必要去尝试。
我们每个人都是终身学习者。教育体系应该采取一个全面的方法，它不仅要帮助学生获得知识和技能，还应该引导他们找到内心的满足感。教育应该引领每个人发现自己的激情所在，这样他们才能真正了解自己，过上幸福美满的生活。
 
Koushik Rajagopalan
What are the best things about Indian education system?
From my experience,
Indian education is very cheap. You can complete your education for some paltry amount in a Government-run or Government-aided school. Again in higher education, most government institutions are way cheaper compared to institutions in other countries.
Indian education system has very little interference from religious fundamentalists. Compared to resistance that topics like Evolution faces in the US, Indian education system is relatively free and relies only on science for its curriculum. There are occasional incidents of incorporating non-sense in the syllabus (like Veg. people are better than non-Veg people). But, it is mostly fine.
 
印度教育体系有哪些值得称道的地方？根据我的亲身体验：
印度的教育费用非常低廉。在政府运营或政府资助的学校，你可以以相对较少的费用完成学业。在高等教育层面，大多数政府机构的学费也远低于其他国家的教育机构。
印度教育体系很少受到宗教极端主义者的影响。与美国等国家对进化论等科学话题的抵触相比，印度的教育体系更加自由，课程内容主要基于科学，而不是宗教教条。
 
Bullying was minimum in schools that I went to. College introduces everyone to bullying in the name of "ragging". But, everything is quiet manageable.
For the most part, history is taught just as it is understood to have happened. Though only North Indian empires and kingdoms are covered in great detail compared to empires in other regions, it does not alter certain portion of the history to fit certain political goals (something that is done in a few other countries).
One other answer mentions that Maths is given importance. I agree with that. This is both good as well as a bad point - many engineers vs Math stealing talented students from other subjects.
 
在我就读的学校中，校园欺凌现象相对较少。虽然大学有时会以“迎新”的名义出现欺凌行为，但这些问题通常都是可以控制的。
历史教学通常是基于公认的历史事实,虽然北印度的帝国和王国在课程中被详细讲述，而其他地区的帝国和王国则没有得到同等的重视，但印度教育体系并不会为了迎合政治目标而篡改历史。
有人提到，数学在印度教育中受到重视，我对此表示赞同。这一点既有积极的一面，也有消极的一面——它既培养了大量的工程师，也可能导致数学领域“抢走”了许多本应在其他学科中大放异彩的优秀学生。