加拿大各阶层抗议大规模移民，特别是来自某个特定国家
Canadians Of All Backgrounds Protest Mass Immigration
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我完全支持移民，但移民标准却急剧下降。
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Canadians Of All Backgrounds Protest Mass Immigration
各阶层的加拿大人抗议大规模移民
各阶层的加拿大人抗议大规模移民
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I’m all for immigration but the standards have taken a nose dive. There’s supposed to be a point system that only allows the best and the brightest the privilege of calling Canadá their home. At the moment we are letting everyone one and exploiting them for cheap labour. What a nightmare we let this country become. This is why it’s so important to vote.
我完全支持移民，但移民标准却急剧下降。本来应该有一个计分制度，只允许最优秀和最聪明的人有幸以加拿大为家。而现在，我们却让所有人都成为移民，并剥削他们的廉价劳动力。我们让这个国家变成了一场噩梦。这就是为什么投票如此重要。
Vote for who? No party except for PPC has come out against mass immigration. And PPC comes with its own baggage.
投票给谁？除了人民党之外，没有任何政党公开反对大规模移民。而人民党也有它自己的包袱。
PPC claims climate change isn't real. There's no place for that rhetoric in Canada.
人民党声称气候变化不是事实。这种言论在加拿大没有立足之地。
Ironically, stopping mass immigration would be a massive benefit for the environment.
讽刺的是，阻止大规模移民将为环境带来巨大好处。
Climate change doesn’t trump our other issues, and immigration is absolutely a more pressing issue
气候变化并不能压倒我们的其他问题，移民绝对是一个更紧迫的问题
Honestly at this point though, you have to prioritize. I don't know what the fuck is with you all being so concerned about the climate but not giving two shits with what is happening right under your nose, both from a macro and micro environment.
We must first put out the fires before we can start planting more trees. Fuck wokeness.
老实说，在这一点上，你必须分清主次。我不知道你们为什么这么关心气候问题，却对发生在你们眼皮底下的事情毫不关心，无论是宏观环境还是微观环境。
我们必须先灭火，然后才能开始种树。去他妈的“觉醒派”。
How the fuck can anyone care about the environment when most Canadians are struggling to get by?
当大多数加拿大人都在艰难度日时，他妈的怎么会有人关心环境呢？
These are 2 separate issues. If the PPC is willing to claim that climate change is a hoax then they don't have any integrity. Immigration is a huge issue but soo is climate change. We need to stop immigration and focus our energy toward environmental efforts.
这是两个不同的问题。如果人民党愿意声称气候变化是一个骗局，那么他们就没有任何诚信可言。移民是一个大问题，但气候变化也是一个大问题。我们需要停止移民，将精力集中在环保工作上。
I agree with your first point.
The second point is falling on many deaf ears. You see, if your people have no access to healthcare, education, social programs, food, safety or housing, no one will give a shit about the climate. It's a secondary thing and our survival instincts are activated because our survival is being compromised. Look up Maslows hierarchy of needs.
If you have a well-rounded and healthy society, then we can start looking ahead at attack secondary problems. But until the primary needs of people keep getting sidelined, so will secondary goals.
I also find it fascinating how people care more about the inanimate earth more than the neighbour next to them, who is starving.
我同意你的第一点。
很多人对第二点充耳不闻。你看，如果你的人民无法获得医疗保健、教育、社会项目、食品、安全或住房，没有人会在乎气候问题。这是次要的，我们的生存本能会被激活，因为我们的生存正在受到损害。请查阅马斯洛需求层次理论。
如果你拥有一个全面健康的社会，那么我们就可以开始展望未来，攻克次要问题。但是，在人们的主要需求不断被边缘化的时候，次要目标也会不断被边缘化。
我还发现一个有趣的现象，那就是人们对无生命的地球的关心程度，远远超过了对身边正在挨饿的邻居的关心程度。
Climate change is real but if Canada went net zero, china and India would still prevent canadas net zero project from making any impact. As long as other countries aren’t as wealthy as the west they will continue to use oil since it’s cheaper and increase their populations standard of living. Classic maslow’s hierachy of needs
气候变化是真实存在的，但如果加拿大实现了净零排放，中国和印度仍会阻止加拿大的净零排放项目产生任何影响。只要其他国家不像西方国家那么富裕，他们就会继续使用石油，因为石油更便宜，也能提高他们人民的生活水平。经典的马斯洛需求层次理论
You might get one of the best and brightest, but they are bringing along their entire family with them. I’m all for immigration, we shouldnt have the vast majority of our immigrants not only coming from one country, but one province from that country. Theres a reason all those people want to leave India…..and now they are bringing all that to Canada
你可能会得到一个最优秀、最聪明的人，但他们会带着全家一起来。我支持移民，但我们不应该让绝大多数移民不仅来自一个国家，而且来自该国的一个省份。所有这些人都想离开印度是有原因的.....现在他们把这些都带到了加拿大。
Where I live in Eastern Canada, many of the immigrants have severe disabilities.
There are at least a dozen in my neighbourhood alone, and I do not understand how having them here adds value to our country.
在我居住的加拿大东部，许多移民都有严重的残疾。
仅我家附近就至少有十几个，我不明白他们的到来如何为我们的国家增添了价值。
It’s neo-colonialism in two senses.
First, it is the continuing of settler colonialism.
Trudeau is giving land acknowledgements while simultaneously increasing settlers by 6 fold without consulting the peoples whose land he acknowledges he is settling new settlers on at an unprecedented pace.
And second, it is a continuation of global colonialism where the global south is extracted of its resources for wealth-building in the wealthy countries.
The global south cannot become economically independent of the global north without a skilled labor force. If we poach their best and brightest, we are perpetuating poverty in the global south. And if we take their most vulnerable, we have a cheap labor source which was a feature of old colonialism as well.
这是两种意义上的新殖民主义。
首先，它是定居者殖民主义的延续。
特鲁多在承认土地所有权的同时，却以前所未有的速度将定居者人数增加了六倍，而没有征求他们的意见。
其次，这是全球殖民主义的延续，全球南方被榨取资源用于富裕国家的财富建设。
没有熟练的劳动力，全球南方就无法在经济上独立于全球北方。如果我们挖走他们最优秀和最聪明的人，我们就会使全球南方的贫困永久化。如果我们掠夺他们最脆弱的群体，我们就拥有了廉价的劳动力来源，这也是旧殖民主义的一个特点。
Whoa now be careful, this sounds awfully conservative of you.
哇，现在要小心了，这让你听起来非常保守。
Amen to this! That’s what Conservatives in the US say. We’re all for LEGAL immigration. Yet the Left only cares about importing as many illegal aliens as possible into the country. It’s disgusting.
祝你好运！美国的保守派也是这么说的。我们都支持合法移民。然而左派只关心如何尽可能多地向国内输入非法移民。真是太恶心了
When I saw that the gov let in India's number 2 gangster on a student visa and immediately lost track of him within a day of arrival I lost all hope for this countries immigration system. It's so fucking bad that top level wanted criminals can go through background checks and processing as if they are saints and waltz in to fuck our country up and kill people. I am predicting huge gang wars in this country in the next 5 years because of the liberal government of which I will never in my life vote for again. I'm sure the cartels have already sunk their teeth in, we already know African crime gangs are on the move, triads and the massive problem with Indian gangs and extortion.
当我看到政府以学生签证放行印度第二号黑帮头目，并在他抵达后一天内立即失去踪迹时，我对这个国家的移民系统彻底失去了希望。最高级别的通缉犯可以像圣人一样通过背景调查和处理，然后大摇大摆地进入我们的国家大开杀戒，这太他妈糟糕了。我预测，由于自由派政府的存在，未来 5 年内这个国家将爆发大规模的帮派战争，而我这辈子都不会再投票支持自由派政府了。我敢肯定，卡特尔帮派已经开始蠢蠢欲动，我们已经知道非洲犯罪团伙正在蠢蠢欲动，三合会以及印度帮派和敲诈勒索问题严重。
Immigrants of one cultural background are protesting this new round of immigration and it's outrageous size and lack of skillset to needs we require. These new immigrants want nothing to do with being canadian, not like the migrants before.
具有某种文化背景的移民正在抗议新一轮的移民潮，抗议其规模大得离谱，新移民缺乏满足我们需求的技能。与之前的移民不同，这些新移民不想成为加拿大人。
Stop the pooping on the beaches......you know who you are
别再在海滩上拉屎了……大家都知道是谁
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Why would they stop, that don't care about Canada. They need to be deported.
他们为什么会停下来，他们不在乎加拿大。他们需要被驱逐出境。
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Even the good Indians are protesting, cause this is making them look bad.
即使是好的印度人也在抗议，因为这让他们看起来很糟糕。
The “good Indians” you have GOT to be joking me
“好印度人”你一定是在跟我开玩笑
Joking about what?
开什么玩笑？
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What makes an Indian good or bad?
是什么让印度人好或坏？
My wife was just followed and harassed by 4 Indian guys in a car while going for a walk on her lunch, so that might make them bad.
我的妻子在吃午饭的时候散步时被 4 个印度人开车跟踪骚扰，所以这可能会让他们看起来很糟糕。
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In the office, all the Indian workers are livid about the influx of Indians lol
在办公室里，所有印度员工都对印度人的涌入感到愤怒，哈哈
The new immigrants coming in will never fight in a si gle war if Canada goes to war just like in ww2. They are here for benefits
如果加拿大像二战时那样参战，新移民绝不会参加任何一场战争。他们来这里只是为了福利
I understand the gov wants cheap labor but the standard of immigration has gone off a cliff and higher standards are a must. Seeing international students protest like it's their right to get PR is a disgrace to folks who actually had to persevere to get it. Folks who gotta go gotta go back home. Folks who fit the criteria can stay. This is not racism or hate, this is just the way it needs to be.
我理解政府想要廉价劳动力，但移民标准已经断崖式下跌，必须提高标准。看到国际学生抗议，好像获得永久居民是他们与生俱来的权利一样，这对那些实际上必须坚持不懈才能获得永久居民的人来说是一种耻辱。该走的人就该回家。符合条件的人可以留下来。这不是种族主义或仇恨，这只是事情正确的运转方式。
I for one am quite curious to see what a majority Sikh government will look like in 2029
我很好奇 2029 年锡克教占多数的政府会是什么样子
Honestly, that would be pretty cool.
老实说，那会很酷。
No thanks.
不，谢谢。
Trudeau is infatuated with immigration. He simply can't open the doors wide enough. He's never consulted Canadians about what they want. Anecdotally everyone l'm talking to is complaining about what's happening but reluctant to say anything for fear of being labeled a "racist".
特鲁多热衷于移民。他只担心无法把门打开得足够大。他从未咨询过加拿大人想要什么。有趣的是，与我交谈的每个人都在抱怨正在发生的事情，但又不愿意说什么，因为担心被贴上“种族主义者”的标签。
I wish you good luck but liberals, conservative and NDP are determined to keep ruining Canada with unrestrained immigration. Only the ppc makes sense on immigration but they are still a lot of years away from being taken as a serious party. They still do not draw quality candidates and by the time they become a contender, the population shift in Canada will be so great that there will be a greater chance of an Islamic party of Canada or Sikh party of Canada of wining seats.
我祝你好运，但自由党、保守党和新民主党都决心继续无节制地移民，毁掉加拿大。只有人民党在移民问题上是有道理的，但他们还需要很多年才能成为一个严肃的政党。他们仍然没有吸引到高素质的候选人，等到他们成为竞争者时，加拿大的移民人口将如此之大，以至于加拿大伊斯兰党或加拿大锡克教党赢得席位的机会将更大。
Enough indians
印度人够多了
Incredible stupidity bringing in so many low skilled immigrants from a single country. It’s not racist to point out horrible policy: this government completely screwed up. If they don’t have PRs yet, they need to leave, but they won’t because the norms they brought with them don’t acknowledge the rule of law. What a mess.
从一个国家引进如此多的低技能移民，真是愚蠢至极。指出可怕的政策并不是种族歧视：这个政府完全搞砸了。如果他们还没有获得永久居民身份，他们就需要离开，但他们不会离开，因为他们带来的习惯是不承认法治。真是一团糟。
Maybe they should protest by electing people who don’t hate their country
也许他们应该通过选举不仇恨自己国家的人来抗议
Immigration is the cornerstone of Canada and to oppose it is ridiculous.
Right now, the immigration/student visa process is appearing very reckless. Millions of immigrants per year along w the student visas for diploma mills.
My only question is, what is the logic behind it? On top of a housing crisis and tough job market, what is the benefit of rigorously growing the population at this moment? Wouldn’t just stable levels of consistent immigration rates be reasonable?
It’s a head scratcher.
移民是加拿大的基石，反对移民是荒谬的。
现在，移民/学生签证程序显得非常草率。每年数以百万计的移民以及文凭工厂的学生签证。
我唯一的问题是，这背后的逻辑是什么？在住房危机和就业市场严峻的情况下，此时此刻大力发展人口有什么好处？保持稳定的移民率不是更合理吗？
真是让人挠头。
Immigration is the Achilles heel of the globalization idea; There is at the moment many anti-immigrant sentiments in all develop nations because of the idea of continuous immigration; The logic stays that this would come to an abrupt end. Trump gave the warning in the US; However; Regardless of the noise, immigration still continues, which is mind-boggling.
移民是全球化理念的致命弱点；目前，由于持续不断的移民理念，所有发达国家都存在许多反移民情绪；按照逻辑，这将戛然而止。特朗普在美国发出了警告；然而，不管噪音如何，移民仍在继续，这令人匪夷所思。
Canadians are bigots and racist and xenophobic! At least according to the Liberals in the U.S.A. they are.
加拿大人是偏执狂、种族主义者和仇外者！至少根据美国自由党的说法是这样。
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1.33, that is the fertility rate of Canada. Without immigration, you will be gone in short order. In the USA our fertility rate is 1.6. If we didn't have immigration driving our economy, we would have shrunk from 333 million to 320 million and be in a recession. Western countries need immigrants now to grow their economies. We will be fighting for immigrants soon.
1.33，这是加拿大的生育率。如果没有移民，你很快就会消失。美国的生育率是 1.6。如果没有移民推动我们的经济，我们的人口会从 3.33 亿缩减到 3.2 亿，并陷入衰退。西方国家现在需要移民来发展经济。我们很快就会为争夺移民而战。
decentralize governance or things will never change
去中心化治理，否则事情永远不会改变
I don't think that the government understands what diversity means.
我认为政府不理解“多样性”的含义。
Well columbus came here lookikg for Indians. Now Indians are coming here to see why columbus missed
哥伦布来这里寻找印度人。现在，印度人来到这里，想知道为什么哥伦布会错过
They can’t even get diversity from India. My Indian colleague tells me its just one province of theirs where all are coming from and that province is known for issues including crime and drug crisis
他们甚至无法从印度移民身上实现多样性。我的印度同事告诉我，这些人都来自一个省，所有人都来自那里，而该省因犯罪和毒品危机等问题而闻名
Which province is that?
那是哪个省？
Punjab.
旁遮普
Just isn’t true. There are way more non Punjabi Indian students in canada just check the statistics for the census. Punjab also doesn’t even compare to drug usage in other states
事实并非如此。加拿大有更多的非旁遮普族印度学生，只需查看人口普查的统计数据即可。旁遮普省的吸毒情况甚至比不上其他地方。
My colleague told me the same thing because they've basically taken over the entire factory. Then told me they were no good and lazy. I had no idea Indians hated Indians so much.
我的同事也这么跟我说，因为他们基本上接管了整个工厂。然后告诉我，他们没出息，又懒惰。我不知道印度人这么讨厌印度人。
I had no idea Indians hated Indians so much. That's like what they are known for.
我不知道印度人这么讨厌印度人。明明这就是他们出名的原因。
Your colleague probably also didnt mention his bias against that state as it one of the few states in india that dont share the majority religion of india and is more liberal than india and largely opposes fascist modi.
你的同事可能也没有提到他对该邦的偏见，因为该州是印度少数几个不信奉印度主要宗教的邦之一，而且比印度更加自由，在很大程度上反对法西斯莫迪。
Punjab is one of the least Liberal states in India. You can look up various gender equality stats by state. Southern India is significantly more liberal than Northern India
旁遮普邦是印度最不自由的邦之一。你可以按邦查找各种性别平等统计数据。印度南部比印度北部要自由得多
I am from a state that’s hated by Modi’s political party too. Maybe more than they hate Punjab. Even we’re embarrassed of the shit most Punjabis do in Canada. They’re loud, don’t respect laws, force people around them to speak Hindi/Punjabi and if there’s a crime or fraudulent incident, there’s always a Punjabi in it. It’s hard not to feel second hand embarrassment when Punjabis make fool of themselves and then the other people look at you the same way they do with Punjabis because you look like them.
我的家乡也是莫迪政党所憎恨的一个邦。也许比他们对旁遮普的憎恨更甚。即使是我们，也对大多数旁遮普人在加拿大的所作所为感到尴尬。他们大声喧哗，不遵守法律，强迫周围的人说印地语/旁遮普语，如果发生犯罪或欺诈事件，总有旁遮普人参与其中。当旁遮普人出洋相时，其他人也会用看旁遮普人的眼光看你，因为你长得像他们。
I mean blame the british empire for colonizing India and teaching them english, there is a reason indians tend to skew higher on immigration a lot of it is due to the fact they can speak one of our official languages.
要怪就怪英国殖民印度并教他们说英语，印度人移民比例偏高是有原因的，很大程度上是因为他们会说我们的官方语言之一。
As you can see in the comments. Most will dispute the quality of English spoken by Indians.
你可以从评论中看到。大多数人都会对印度人说英语的质量提出质疑。
You know there should be a hard cap on the number of people allowed to come from each country, otherwise we are going to end up with certain pockets that end up as some shitty ethnic enclaves with little diversity
每个国家允许入境的人数都应该有一个硬性上限，否则，我们就会在某些地方形成一些低劣的种族飞地，几乎没有多样性可言。
This entire country was, at one time, a white ethnic enclave bent on the removal of others. Guess some people in these forums are continuing that proud tradition…
曾几何时，整个国家都是白人种族的飞地，一心想要赶走其他人。我猜这些论坛上的一些人正在延续这一光荣传统......