为什么印度学生要出国?

Manav Garg
Why do Indians go abroad for higher studies?
I'm currently planning to complete my graduation and go abroad (and may be settle after higher studies). So I can give my opinion on why I want to leave India to settle abroad.
I'll begin with a small story of my life:
 
为何印度学生会远赴海外深造？
我目前正计划完成我的学业后出国深造，并有可能在完成学业后定居海外。因此，我可以分享我为何想要离开印度，选择在国外定居的原因。
让我从我生活中的一个小故事开始说起：
 
*Flash back a few years: 6th standard*
"Hey that's amazing how did you make that," asked my friend (and my classmate), seeing a little fan in my hand that was connected to a switch. It was a simple electric circuit that connected a motor, a battery and a switch in series, but it was fascinating to him even though electric circuits were already introduced in the class. This was probably because no one, not even teachers ever cared to show us how it actually works. It was always mugging up the concepts and getting the marks. Students and the teachers alike believed in this philosophy. But for me? Those circuit components were what building blocks are for a kid. I would play with them whole day and ask my dad to buy more of such components. Each time he did, I used to be more excited than an Indian is before an India Pakistan cricket match. I remember making those infinite circuit designs that started with a single switch controlled fan and ended at 2 switch controlled moving car!
Now this passion for making and designing was not something new. It was always there. And it is still here at this very moment.
 
回忆几年前，我还在上六年级时
“哇，这太神奇了，你是怎么做到的？”我的同学兼朋友问道。他看到我手里拿着一个连接着开关的小风扇，感到非常惊奇。这其实是一个简单的电路，将电机、电池和开关串联起来，但对他来说却非常吸引人。尽管课堂上已经教授了电路知识，但可能因为从未有老师或同学真正展示过它们的实际工作方式，所以这些电路对他来说仍然很神秘。一直以来，大家只关注于记忆概念和考试得分。但对我来说，那些电路组件就像是孩子们手中的积木。我会整天摆弄它们，还会让父亲给我买更多的电子组件。每次父亲买回新的组件，我都会像印度人期待印巴板球比赛一样兴奋。我记得自己制作了无数的电路设计，从最初的单开关控制风扇，到最后的双开关控制的移动汽车。
这种对制作和设计的热爱，对我来说并不新鲜。直到此刻，它都一直伴随着我。
 
Anyways, so "marks" that were the most important criteria to all, never made sense to me, nor did I ever care that much. I used to learn science concepts with utmost excitement only because I used to imagine different situations in which those could be used to make something exciting and fun.
But I used to score decently in exams. I was neither too bad nor too good at "studies"
*Flash forward 5 years: 11th standard*
It was all set. Unlike most other science students who wanted to be engineers by "parent's choice," I wanted to be one by my choice. So I took opted for the science stream. I heard for the first time about IITs and and other prestigious colleges and about how one needs to score in a test (IIT-JEE) and get a good rank to study from there. They called it (they still do) "cracking the IIT."
Test? Really? I always thought engineering was more of a practical thing and involved things like creative thinking and finding new ideas. But they would judge my capability on the basis of am exam that tested my capability to remember chemical equations, mathematical formulas and maybe a little of my capability of impromptu problem solving. I understand problem solving but if I want to be an electronics engineer, why the hell do you want to see my ability to mug up and apply chemical equations? Won't you instead check on my ability to understand electronics concepts and my ability to apply them. Won't you see my creativity and the practical projects I have made based on them? Aren't you at all interested in seeing my talent to create and make and design things?
 
然而，对于大多数人来说至关重要的“分数”，对我来说，从未真正有意义，我也从未特别在意过。我之所以兴奋地学习科学概念，是因为我总能想象出各种应用这些概念来创造有趣事物的场景。
但我以前考试成绩还不错。我在“学习”方面既不差也不太好。
快进五年，我上十一年级时
一切似乎都已准备就绪。与大多数因父母期望而想成为工程师的学生不同，我是出于自己的选择。因此，我选择了理科。那是我第一次听说印度理工学院（IIT）和其他一些著名大学，以及如何通过一场考试（IIT-JEE）获得高分和好名次来进入这些学府。人们称之为“攻克IIT”。
考试？用得着吗？我一直以为工程学更多的是关于实践，涉及创造性思维和寻找新点子。但他们却要用一场考试来评判我的能力，这场考试测试的是我记忆化学方程式、数学公式的能力，也许还有我即兴解决问题的能力。我理解解决问题的重要性，但如果我想成为一名电子工程师，为什么你要看我记忆化学方程式的能力？难道你不应该更关心我理解电子概念的能力以及我应用它们的能力吗？难道你不想了解我的创造力，以及我基于这些概念完成的实践项目吗？难道你对我创造和设计事物的才能一点都不感兴趣吗？
 
I did not like their idea of this test and discussed it with my friends and family. "Its India," they said. "Here you are made an engineer and then you work like a donkey in an IT company where most of them do not want you to see your creative talent, they want your capability to work and work on what they, not what you want. So you must now be able to do the same- study what they want, how they want, not what you want," said my cousin brother. I was horrified at first but then I thought he must be kidding about the IT thing. After all, he might be saying so because he was placed in an IT firm.
Moreover, I had no choice and if I was going to be an engineer it had to be from an Institute that would impart me with best of knowledge. So I decided to give them what they wanted. I set my goal like others to "crack IIT" by studying hard. All my hobbies of creating new designs and my latest idea of making 'robots' was forgotten. I was there like everyone else, studying and mugging up and solving numericals. Two years passed by, two years of my life in which I had given my everything for clearing the exam.
 
我对这种考试的观念并不认同，并与我的朋友和家人讨论了这个问题。“这就是印度，”他们说。“在这里，你被塑造成一名工程师，然后在IT公司里像驴一样工作，而这些公司大多不关心你的创造才能，他们只关心你的工作能力，按照他们的需求，而不是按照你的兴趣去工作。所以现在你必须做同样的事——学习他们想要的，按照他们的方式，而不是按照你的兴趣去学习，”我的堂兄这样告诉我。起初我感到震惊，但后来我觉得他可能在开玩笑，毕竟他可能因为自己在IT公司的工作经历才这么说。
此外，我别无选择，如果我想成为一名工程师，我必须来自一个能提供最优质知识的学院。所以我决定满足他们的期望，像其他人一样设定了“攻克IIT”的目标，并通过努力学习来实现它。我放弃了所有创造新设计和制作机器人的爱好和想法。我和其他学生一样，投入了所有时间来学习、记忆和解决数学问题。两年时间就这样过去了，我为了通过这场考试而倾尽全力。
 
Results:
IIT-JEE: Not qualified.
Damn! I was a little crushed but maybe it was not meant to be. Anyway, AIEEE, the next big exam was still pending.
AIEEE: Rank 46,569 out of more than 12,00,000 students (some say it was 13 lakh)
If you do the maths, I was among the top 4% of the students. Genius right? No! The good institutes demanded a rank less than 20,000. Be them the National Institute of Technologies or Delhi Technical University. For them I was stupid and not capable enough to study from their Institutes. 'Was I really?' I thought.
Anyways, a local university in Delhi was the last resort I had to stick with. (I cannot reveal the name, but if you are an engineer from Delhi like me, you know the name)
 
结果：
印度理工学院联合入学考试（IIT-JEE）：未通过。
真是让人沮丧！虽然有点失落，但也许这并非命中注定。无论如何，全印度工程学院入学考试（AIEEE）还在等着我。
AIEEE：在超过120万考生中排名第46,569。
算下来，我是前4%的学生。听起来很厉害，对吧？但好的学院要求排名在20,000名以内。无论是国家技术学院还是德里科技大学，他们都认为我不够聪明，不配在他们的学院学习。我不禁自问：“我真的不够优秀吗？”
没办法，我只能选择德里的一所本地大学作为最后的选择。（我不便透露校名，但如果你是德里的工程师，可能知道是哪里）
 
*Flash forward: Now*
Now I am in the last year of my graduation, completely hating Indian education system not only because of the way they checked my capability of being an engineer but also because of the way these guys made me an "engineer."
In last 3 years of my engineering, every teacher who has entered the class room has started the lecture with the words "Now the next important topic that comes in your exams is this..." Every fucking thing revolves around exams, marks, bullshit! Nobody gives a fuck if students actually learn or understand concepts and create something from them. They do not want practical designs or projects. They want fucking copied assignments and marks! I'm doing research on an electronic device on my own because no professor has agreed to really help me! For them this is a "time waste"
Believe me, this was not the engineering I hoped for. Like my cousin said I am now placed in an IT frim because 'India is not for electronics engineers' and no electronics company came (nor would it be coming) for placements. If I do not get out of this hell hole made for me, they would make me work like a donkey. I would loose my passion and maybe the love of my life.
 
快进到现在
现在，我即将大学毕业，我对印度的教育体系感到彻底失望。不仅因为它们评定我作为工程师的能力的方式，更因为它们将我塑造成了一个“工程师”。
在我工程学学习的最后三年里，每位走进教室的老师都以“接下来是考试中的重要主题…”开始他们的讲授。一切似乎都围绕着考试和分数转，没有人真正关心学生是否理解了概念，是否能基于这些概念创造出什么。他们不看重实践设计或项目，只想要抄袭的作业和分数！我正在自学研究一个电子设备，因为没有任何教授愿意真正帮助我。对他们来说，这简直是“浪费时间”。
老实说，这不是我期望中的工程学教育。就像我堂兄说的，我现在被安排在一家IT公司工作，因为“印度不适合电子工程师”，而且没有电子公司来招聘。如果我不逃离这个为我准备的地狱，他们就会让我像驴一样工作，我会失去我的热情，甚至可能失去我生命中的挚爱。
 
I want to do masters in my field, but from India? Not again! I'm sorry India but I do not like your idea of engineering. I can see the same thing going all over again if I choose it. JEE would be replaced by the GATE exam and the same shit all over again.
Now the top most universities of the world do not work by the Indian ideology. They are not only concerned with my marks but also give an equal weightage to my projects and researches. They would be happy to let me study in their institute if I've score averagely in my B.Tech exams but I have done good research projects. They do not have any entrance exam like JEE or GATE with cut off ranks. They want creative and practical students. Their process is what I agree with. Their teaching methodology is not based not just exams but practical knowledge. They make engineers. I wish to be an engineer and I dont think India is making me one.
 
我想在我的领域继续深造，但在印度？不再有可能了！我对印度的工程教育理念感到失望。如果再次选择印度，我可以预见会重新开始同样的循环。JEE会被GATE考试取代，会再次上演同样的糟糕局面。
现在，世界上顶尖的大学并不遵循印度的教育思想。他们不仅关注我的分数，还同等重视我的项目和研究。如果我在专业考试中表现平平，但有出色的研究项目，他们会欢迎我在他们的学院学习。他们没有像JEE或GATE那样的入学考试和排名限制。他们想要的是富有创造力和实践能力的学生。我认同他们的选拔过程和教学方法，这不仅仅基于考试，而是基于实践知识，他们培养的是真正的工程师。我渴望成为一名工程师，我不认为印度的教育体系能让我实现这一愿望。
 
So I want to go to a top university and be a real engineer. I want people to care for my talent and my creativity. If I work for a company, I want them to see my real potential, and allow me to make a difference. Although do not want to leave the country, I must if I want to give a meaning to my life.
Why do you think all great compnies like Google, Facebook, Amazon, Qualcomm and even Quora are all American? Do Indians not have the talent to start such companies? Bullshit! We have the capability to create even better companies than these but maybe we never are given an opportunity to do so! Change the system and we would change the way world sees India. Jai Hind!
 
因此，我想去顶尖大学，成为真正的工程师。我希望人们能够重视我的才能和创造力。如果为公司工作，我希望他们能看到我真正的潜力，并允许我做出改变。虽然我并不想离开我的国家，但如果我想赋予我的生命真正的意义，我必须这么做。
你认为那些伟大的公司，如谷歌、Facebook、亚马逊、高通甚至Quora都是美国的，是因为印度人没有创办类似公司的能力吗？这是胡说！我们有能力创建比这些公司更好的公司，但也许我们从来没有机会这样做！如果我们改变教育体系，我们就能改变世界看待印度的方式。印度必胜！
 
Sidhima Goel
Why do Indians go abroad for higher studies?
I have done my bachelor's in Audiology and Speech language pathology .. fascinating?? I did it from PGI,chd (top medical institute of India). For seeking admission in Masters program ,i gave entrance exam and stood second in rank.The candidate on 1st position has scored same marks as mine and the tie breaker was her experience of 1 year.I still cannot get admission due to only 1 seat in general category which was backed by the candidate on 1st rank. Also, there was 1 seat in Scheduled Caste(SC) category and no candidate from such category had given the entrance exam .So.I requested the dean of pgi to convert the SC category seat into general category for this year as mentioned about the possibility of conversion in the prospectus of the Msc(counselling and academic sessions).
But they denied my request stating that SC comission doesn't allow this conversion.
 
为什么印度学生选择出国深造？
我在印度顶尖的医学研究所昌迪加尔的研究生院（PGI,chd）完成了我的听力学和语言病理学本科学位……这门学科非常吸引人。为了申请硕士课程，我参加了入学考试并名列第二。排名第一的考生分数与我相同，但因为她有一年的工作经验，所以她成了第一名。由于普通类别的名额只有一个，被排名第一的考生占据，我无法获得入学资格。此外，还有一个为预定种姓（SC）类别的名额，但没有该类别的考生参加考试。因此，我请求PGI的院长将这个SC类别的名额转换为普通类别的名额，这是在硕士招生简章中提到的一个可能性。
但他们拒绝了我的请求，理由是SC委员会不允许进行这种转换操作。
 
Now here what really frustrates me is:
If the SC comission had denied the conversion,why they have mentioned in the prospectus?
N its the waste of my whole year.I have worked day and night for the entrance and the end result is wastage of the whole year.
Other students who scored less than me and were from OBC category are now enrolled in the masters program.
This is the reason why I m leaving this country and going to pursue my higher education in abroad.
 
这让我非常沮丧：
如果SC委员会不同意转换，为什么招生简章中要提到这个可能性？
这让我一整年的努力都白费了。我为了入学考试日夜苦读，结果却是一整年的时间都被浪费了。
其他分数比我低，属于其他落后阶层（OBC）的考生现在都已注册进入硕士课程。
这就是我决定离开印度，去国外继续我的高等教育的原因。
 
Touch Heights
Indian students go abroad for a variety of reasons, including:
Higher education: Many Indian students aspire to study in universities abroad which are renowned for their high academic standards and excellent research facilities.
Career Opportunities: Studying abroad can open doors to international job opportunities and provide a global network.
Exposure to diverse cultures: Studying abroad exposes students to a diverse range of cultures and perspectives, which can broaden their perspectives and enhance their personal development.
Language Skills: Studying in a foreign country helps students to improve their language skills and become proficient in a second language.
Personal Growth: Studying abroad is a life-changing experience that can help students become more independent, self-sufficient, and confident.
Improved standard of living: Some students pursue education abroad with the hope of a better standard of living, which may include higher salaries, access to better healthcare and other social services.
 
印度学生出国深造有多种原因：
追求高等教育：许多印度学生渴望进入国际知名大学深造，这些大学以其高标准的学术水平和卓越的研究设施而闻名。
职业机会：出国留学可以为学生打开国际就业机会的大门，并提供一个全球性的网络。
体验多元文化：出国留学让学生接触到不同的文化和观点，这可以拓宽他们的视野，促进个人发展。
提升语言技能：在外国学习有助于学生提高语言技能，精通第二语言。
个人成长：出国留学是一次改变人生的经历，可以帮助学生变得更加独立、自主和自信。
提高生活质量：一些学生选择出国深造，希望获得更高的生活水平，包括更高的薪资、更好的医疗保健和其他社会服务。
 
Chetanya Kandhari
Why do Indians go abroad for higher studies?
Due to the great indian policy of “Reserved before Deserved”.
Even if the students work hard to study and score really well, they don’t get admission to the colleges they want and should get by merit.
 
为什么印度人要出国深造?
由于印度的“配额优先于功绩”政策，即使学生努力学习并取得优异成绩，也可能无法进入他们应得的大学。
 
Mansoor Khan
There are a large number of Indian students and other international students those who go abroad for their higher studies because of several benefits. These are :
Students get a chance to gain an international perspective on their major area of study. They are able to discover new academic interest, they can develop their confidence level and skills.
They are offered with amazing career opportunities.
Students get a chance to grow and develop personally.
Students get a chance to explore diversity and new culture.
Students can experience a different style of teaching, learning different language, getting overall a better lifestyle.
 
有大量的印度学生和其他国际学生出国深造，因为有几大好处，它们是:
获得国际视野：学生有机会从国际视角深入了解自己的专业领域，他们能够发现新的学术兴趣，他们可以发展他们的信心水平和技能。
职业发展：留学提供了令人兴奋的职业机会。
个人成长：留学经历有助于个人成长和发展。
文化多样性：学生有机会探索不同的文化和新的生活方式。
教学风格：学生可以体验不同的教学方法，学习新的语言，享受更好的生活品质。