网友讨论：2023年越南会超过菲律宾，马来西亚和新加坡吗？
Will Vietnam SURPASS Philippines, Singapore and Malaysia by 2023?
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网友：到2030年，印尼凭借人口优势依然会是东盟最大的经济体。马来西亚和泰国会争夺第二和第三的宝座，而越南和菲律宾会争夺第四和第五，我认为新加坡会是第六，但他们依然是东盟人均gdp最高的国家，而马来西亚100%有可能会成为高收入国家，到时他们的人均gdp会达到20000美元
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网友讨论：2023年越南会超过菲律宾，马来西亚和新加坡吗？
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Go Vietnam, Go Phillipines, Go Thailand, Go Malaysia. Join the G20 club.
越南加油，菲律宾加油，泰国加油，马来西亚加油，一起加入G20俱乐部。
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Just Vietnam have potential to dominate Asean tbh.
老实说只有越南有主导东盟的潜力
Then its not G20 anymore but G25.
到时候就不是G20了，而是G25
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If Philippines can solve the problem of energy, we can easily surpass our ASEAN neighbor .
如果菲律宾可以解决能源问题的话，那么我们将可以轻易超过我们的东盟邻国
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By 2030, Indonesia will still be largest economy in ASEAN just by the their population. Malaysia and Thailand will compete for #2 and #3. Vietnam and Philippines will compete for #4 and #5. Singapore I think will become 6th, but, they will still be the richest by GDP per capita and Malaysia will 100% become pretty high income then at US$20,000!
到2030年，印尼凭借人口优势依然会是东盟最大的经济体。马来西亚和泰国会争夺第二和第三的宝座，而越南和菲律宾会争夺第四和第五，我认为新加坡会是第六，但他们依然是东盟人均gdp最高的国家，而马来西亚100%有可能会成为高收入国家，到时他们的人均gdp会达到20000美元
@Jonathan De Vera Yeah, the Philippines has great potential, but we are so far left behind we need to strive more than the other ASEAN members. Remember that in the 1970s, the Philippines was only second to Japan in terms of industrialization and infrastructure in Asia; if that progress had been sustained, the Philippines would have been included in the G20 long ago.
是的，菲律宾拥有巨大的潜力，但我们现在远远落后，我们需要比东盟其他国家更加努力。要知道在上世纪70年代，菲律宾在基础设施和工业化方面仅次于亚洲的日本，如果这个进程可以持续的话，那么菲律宾早就进入二十国集团了。
It's good to see all ASEAN countries grow. We're still far behind developed countries.
很高兴看到东盟所有国家都在发展，我们依然还远远落后于发达国家
Hope all Asean countries develop fast so that the people prosper. The world's average GDP per capita is 12,000 USD/year while ASEAN countries other than Singapore, Brunei, Malaysia have high gdp, the rest are low, even Thailand is only 7,800 USD/year
希望东盟所有国家都能取得快速的发展，让人民富裕起来。世界年人均gdp是12000美元，而东盟国家中除新加坡，文莱和马来西亚拥有较高的人均gdp以外，其他国家的都很低，甚至连泰国的人均gdp也只有7800美元
You are right! We need push Thailand - now 7500 to 12,000 USD/y as soon as posible, then Indonesia now 4400, Vietnam is 4000 and then Philipin 3700-3800 USD. Thailand need growth 5% yearly at least, meanwhile other need 6-7% growth rate. 2030 the world's average GDP per capita will be 14000 -14500 USD at least.
你说得对。我们需要尽快将泰国的人均gdp从现在的7500美元提高到12000美元，印尼现在的人均是4400美元，越南是4000美元，菲律宾是3700-3800美元，我们需要尽快将这些国家的人均gdp都提高到12000美元。泰国的年增长率至少要达到5%，与此同时其他国家的增长率需要达到6%到7%。2030年世界人均gdp将至少在14000美元和14500美元之间。
@Truong Thi Goodyear hhhh its not easy for big country like Indonesia
这对印尼这样的大国来说并不容易
Indonesia will put down vietnam under the feet.
印尼会把越南踩在脚下
Vietnam don't need surpass indonesia..vietnam just surpass Indonesia football..hahahahaha
越南不需要在经济上超过印尼，越南只需要在足球方面超过印尼就可以了，哈哈
@John brookhaven just football doesn't represent the country. Go and Surpassing militery, economic, infrastructure, salary, currency, so that I respect . Nowadays vietnam still not our level.
足球不能代表一个国家。要想让我尊重越南的话，就想办法在军事，经济，基础设施，收入，货币等领域超过印尼。现在的越南和印尼依然不是同一个级别的存在。
@Nanak Badog indonesia has a large and poor population like india and bangladesh hahaha
印尼和印度孟加拉一样，穷人数量非常的多哈哈
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@Nanak Badog small country does not mean that it cannot catch up with big countries. Look at South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, Switzerland, they are much better than big Indonesia lol
小国并不一定就追不上大国。看看韩国，新加坡，台湾地区和瑞士，他们要比大国印尼好多了哈哈
GDP per capita is hard to improve in a country with a big population. Even China, the 2nd biggest economy in the world, is only sitting at 10,850 USD a year in GDP per capita, while India, the 5th biggest economy, is the worst in terms of GDP per capita, at 2,000 USD.
人口多的国家很难提高人均gdp。即便是世界第二大经济体的中国人均gdp也只有10850美元，而印度作为世界第五大经济体，人均gdp只有2000美元，是人均gdp最低的国家。
The most important is that most of ASEAN are growing faster, either PH or VT will be second biggest economy by the next 5 years.
最重要的是大部分东盟国家正在更快的发展，未来五年东盟第二大经济体要么是菲律宾要么是越南
Can other ASEAN countries could surpass Indonesia?
其他东盟国家能超过印尼吗？
@Me Virgo every country have great potential .. so its possible
每个国家都有着巨大的潜力，所以是有可能的
@Me Virgo Indonesia is the 4th most Populated country in the world with vast archipelagic country with so many resources Indonesia is nowhere near the level of Malaysia or Singapore even Thailand
印尼是世界第四人口大国，是一个巨大的群岛国家，拥有很多的资源，但即便如此，印尼依然远远落后马来西亚，新加坡，甚至泰国
Yes be the second place, but surpass indonesia are impossible. Indonesia population are so big, and very rich in natural resources
是的，越南和菲律宾有可能会成为东盟的第二大经济体，但他们不可能超过印尼，因为印尼拥有庞大的人口和丰富的自然资源。
From Vietnam, the Vietnamese are happy to catch up with other fellow ASEAN members and hope Myanmar will come back our Asean economic race. Cambodia, Laos, Timor Leste must work hard to catch up others
我来自越南，越南人很高兴可以赶上其他的东盟成员国，希望缅甸可以回归正常，重新参与到东盟国家的经济竞赛中。柬埔寨，老挝，东帝汶必须努力追上其他国家
So sad the Philippines always the poorest, Cambodia is going up so fast
遗憾的是，菲律宾总是最穷的，柬埔寨现在发展的很快
Timor Leste is not ASEAN member and it should never be. Most Indonesian people never want TL to be accepted into ASEAN, we need TL to stay poor so they will depend on Indonesia in all aspect forever.
东帝汶不是东盟国家，而且永远不应该成为东盟国家。大部分印尼人不希望东帝汶被东盟国家接纳，我们需要东帝汶保持贫穷，这样他们才会在各个方面都要依赖印尼
@Anggita Putri why you hate TL?
为什么你讨厌东帝汶？
@my Lord she is indonesian she didnt accept Timor Leste's independence from the Indonesia lol
她是印尼人，她不接受东帝汶从印尼独立出去，哈哈
there is no competition between us, let's work together, and rise together, hold hands tightly and move forward, love from Indonesia
我们之间没有竞争，让我们一起努力，一起崛起，紧握双手向前进，来自印尼的爱
I personally think Vietnam is the most hard working country in ASEAN...
love from Indonesia
我个人认为越南是东盟国家中最勤劳的
来自印尼的爱
you are right, but I think the Chinese is harder working people.
你说的对，但我认为中国人更加努力
@Hai Nguyen Yea... But China is not in ASEAN
是的，但中国不是东盟国家
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Singapore is rich already
I think vietnam,Indonesia and Malaysia are next...
Thailand and Philippine are go downhill
新加坡已经成为富裕国家
我认为印尼，越南和马来西亚会成为下一个富裕国家
泰国和菲律宾在走下坡路
Malaysia may catch up with Thailand too. Thailand population is 2.2x of Malaysia but the GDP is only 25% higher than Malaysia. So, Malaysia could catch up to surpass Thailand in the next 8 - 10 years.
马来西亚或许也会追上泰国。泰国人口是马来西亚的2.2倍，但gdp只比马来西亚高25%。所以马来西亚可能会在未来八到十年内追上泰国。
@Lex the GDP is base on the population. The bigger population larger the GDP can be in the future.
GDP基于人口，未来人口越多，gdp就会越大
@Lex within 8-10 years, Thailand's Population will go higher and higher. How can you surpass it?
未来八到十年，泰国的人口会越来越多，你们要如何超过他
@AREVALO, Jun Carlo G. Isn't that the same for Malaysia where population and productivity also grow? Malaysia is 2.2x less population than Thailand but its GDP is only 25% less than Thailand. So, yes, Malaysia can surpass Thailand GDP.
马来西亚的人口和生产力不也同样在增长吗？泰国人口是马来西亚的2.2倍，但gdp总量只比马来西亚高25%。所以马来西亚的gdp是可以超过泰国的。
Vietnam's future is super super promising!! I see them as the new Asean's South Korea. Love From Indonesia
越南拥有超级光明的未来。我认为越南就是东盟的韩国。来自印尼的爱
Hope Philipines will grow fast again as our countries still poorer than other countries.
希望菲律宾可以再次取得快速发展，因为我们国家依然比其他国家穷。
I still have high hope for Philippines. Lets keep working hard
我仍然对菲律宾抱有很高的期望。让我们继续努力
All the ASEAN countries, except Singapore, will eventually get to the middle income trap unless they have their own innovations to compete with coutries like China, Korea and Japan. Vietnam' GDP might grow fast while Malaysia and Thailand are waiting for them at the trap. What's interesting is not who will surpass who but who will get out of the trap first.
除新加坡以外，所有的东盟国家最后都会陷入中等收入陷阱，除非他们有自己的创新，可以和中国韩国日本等国展开竞争。越南的gdp或许可以获得快速的增长，但马来西亚和泰国正在中等收入陷阱里面等着他们。有趣的不是谁会超过谁，而是谁可以最先从中等收入陷阱里爬出来。
Exactly correct!
说的很对。
China is trying to escape the middle income trap as well
中国也正在试图摆脱中等收入陷阱
@H p China is a special case with over a billion people. We cannot use conventional economic indicators to judge them. Moreover, they use a unique economic approach (capitalism & socalism). That is why most American specialists always have wrong prediction about China economics.
中国人口超过了十亿，是一个特例。我们不能用传统的经济指标来判断他们。而且他们的经济制度非常独特（资本主义加社会主义）。这就是为什么大部分美国专家总是无法正确预测中国经济的原因
@Kalas2 why does population or economic model matters. We are taking about gdp per capita. Not who has the biggest economy in the world. The ultimate goal is became a high income country. China Gdp per capita is about $10,000 , similar to malaysia.
为什么人口和经济模式很重要？我们现在讨论的是人均gdp，而不是谁是世界最大的经济体。最终的目标是要成为高收入国家。中国的人均gdp大约在一万美元左右，和马来西亚差不多。
@H p It is just an opinion. I think we should have more indicators to judge the country's wealth. The GDP per capita can be used to roughly classify whether a country is in low, middle, or high income but it fails to reflect sustainability.
这只是我的个人看法。我认为我们应该用更多的指标去判断一个国家的财富，人均gdp可以粗略的划分一个国家的收入情况（低等收入国家，中等收入国家，高等收入国家），但它无法反映经济的可持续性。
IMF and World Bank definition of a high income country : GDP per Capita of US$12,236 Chinese GDP per Capita is now more than US$13,000. They have already escaped the middle income trap.
国际货币基金组织和世界银行对高收入国家的定义：人均gdp达到12236美元。中国人均gdp已经超过13000美元。他们已经摆脱中等收入陷阱。
Malaysia will become the next high income in ASEAN for sure. It's already at US$12,000 now, by next year or latest 2-3 years it will be there.
马来西亚肯定可以成为东盟下一个高收入国家，马来西亚现在的人均gdp为12000美元，再过一年，最迟再过两三年，马来西亚就会成为高收入国家。
Yes...vietnam is really on a strong economic uptick right now, while philippines is in trouble.
越南现在的经济增长势头强劲，而菲律宾却陷入了困境
Philippjnes is not in trouble, Philippines is progressing faster, infact Philippines have the highest GDP growth in whole ASEAN countries.
菲律宾没有陷入困境，菲律宾进步得更快，事实上菲律宾的GDP增速是所有东盟国家里面最高的
Healthy competition make us better & stronger ASEAN!
良性竞争可以让我们东盟变得更好更强