2022年了,印度依然不是发达国家
Why is India not a developed country in 2022?
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印度是一个发展中国家,由于各种因素,各个地区的发展情况不尽相同。每当有人对印度的发展提出问题。人们经常展示孟买天际线和古鲁格拉姆的照片。
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Why is India not a developed country in 2022?
2022年了,印度依然不是发达国家
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India is not an undeveloped country in 2022. Period.
Anybody with a pair of eyes, and a brain inside their head can see for himself how much India has developed during the last seven decades. If some one still believes India is an undeveloped country in 2022, without any hesitation I'd commend him to go see a shrink a s a p.
(Of course India is not yet a developed country either. The enormous economic strides the country has made during the last seven decades are neither uniform nor equitable. India still is a developing country, but what one can say with near certitude is India is proceeding in the right direction, perhaps a bit slowly, but nevertheless steadily and sustainably)
And more funnily the caveat “compared to others”!
Compared to what others? Srilanka? Pakistan? Myanmar? even the tiny Nepal? Of course Bangla Desh is catching up & China is an outlier. And any comparison with much smaller countries like South Korea, Singapore or Hongkong is untenable and comparison with already well developed countries like the USA, UK or the Scandinavian countries is unfair.
So coming back to the question, please repeat with me “India is not an undeveloped country in 2022, whether compared or not compared to others.
Jai Hind!
但2022年,印度也不是不发达国家。(注:世界各国从经济、社会等发展水平上被分类为——发达国家、发展中国家、不发达国家)
任何一个有眼睛和脑子的人都能亲眼看到印度在过去70年里取得了多大的发展。如果有人到2022年还认为印度是不发达国家,我会毫不犹豫地建议他去看心理医生。
当然,印度也不是发达国家。这个国家在过去70年里取得的巨大经济进步既不统一也不公平。印度仍然是一个发展中国家,但人们几乎可以肯定地说,印度正在朝着正确的方向前进,虽然速度可能有点慢,但仍然是稳定和可持续的。
更有趣的是,那些总是“与他国家相比”的观点!
和哪些国家比?斯里兰卡?巴基斯坦?缅甸?甚至是很小的尼泊尔?当然,孟加拉国正在赶上(印度),中国是个例外。与韩国、新加坡或中国香港等小得多的地区进行比较是站不住脚的,与美国、英国或斯堪的纳维亚国家等已经很发达的国家进行比较是不公平的。
所以回到这个问题上来,请跟我重复一遍“印度在2022年不是一个不发达国家,无论与其他国家相比还是不相比。
印度万岁!
With over 50% population dependent on agriculture for sustenance, and our economic policies directed towards rural & urban poor in the form of MNREGA, loan waivers, DBT, freebies, PDS, with no adequate social security frxwork, it's a long walk to become developed :)
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超过50%的人口依靠农业维持生计,我们的经济政策以MNREGA、贷款减免、DBT、免费赠品、PDS的形式面向农村和城市贫困人口,没有足够的社会保障框架。
要成为发达国家还有很长的路要走。
Why is India an undeveloped country in 2022 compared to others?
Compared to what? Wakanda? Sokovia?? Atlantis???
Ever climbed a mountain? If yes, you'd come to realise that the mountain decides it’s peak, but it is the mountain climbers who decide the summit. The beauty of trekking is that there can be multiple summits, with everyone having reached their summit.
Now, this isn't to claim that India is the topmost country in the world. To be honest, no country is. Because the metrics of development depends on the time we had, the time we have, and how well we manage the resources in hand. The priority of each nation varies as well. The “most developed” country might lack major benefits the “least developed” country might consider the default, and vice versa.
哪些方面相比?瓦坎达(虚构的非洲国家)?索科维亚(欧洲历史上的一个小国)?亚特兰蒂斯(传说中沉入海底的大陆)?
曾经爬过山吗?如果答案是肯定的,你就会意识到,山由最高峰决定,而山峰由登山者决定。徒步旅行的美妙之处在于可以有多个高峰,每个人都达到了自己的顶峰。现在,这并不是说印度是世界上发展最好的国家。老实说,没有哪个国家是这样的。因为发展的度量标准取决于我们所处的时间,以及我们如何管理手中的资源。每个国家的优先级也各不相同。“最发达”国家可能存在重大利益得不到满足,而“最不发达”国家可能考虑违约,反之亦然。
Also, ones perception of development depends on one's personal development as well. An elite person living in the most underdeveloped place lives a better life than a homeless destitute in the most developed place. This can be true of country, or any state within the country, or city within the state, or locality within the city. A self sufficient farmer living in kuccha housing is much richer than a bankrupt techie living in a high rise that is technically the property of the bank. But who is categorised as “rich” and who is categorised as “poor”? And why does it matter when the reality is different?
Well, while India isn't the topmost country by any of the current indices, it isn't the bottommost either. Because that is how the world is. Every single country has its own set of problems, and looks at a wistful desire at some other country. While an average Indian looks at America's uninterrupted power and water supply and clean streets wistfully, an average American who has just exhausted his life's savings due to a medical emergency might yearn for the free treatment we get in our government hospitals — something the USA doesn't have. Our government hospitals might not have the latest technology, but it caters to the lowest common denominator — basic healthcare for all. Any extra funding it receives depending on the priorities by the state government the hospital is in.
把“发展”想象成电子游戏。一旦你完成一个关卡,你就会进入下一个关卡,在那里你会遭遇许多挑战,虽然你可能是上一个关卡的高手,但你仍然需要通过当前关卡的所有困难,以便到达下一个关卡。每一关都将比前一关更困难。但第5关的难度是否意味着你到目前为止所通的关都不重要?
此外,一个人对国家发展的看法也取决于他的个人发展。生活在最不发达地方的精英,比生活在最发达地方的无家可归的穷人,生活得更好。这可以适用于国家,或国家内的任何州,或州内的城市,或城市内的某个地方。一个自给自足的农民住在某个房子里,比一个破产的技术人员住在属于银行财产的高楼里要富有得多。但谁被归为“富人”,谁又被归为“穷人”呢?
尽管印度目前的各项指数都不是最高的,但也不是最低的。因为世界就是这样的。每个国家都有自己的一套问题,并对其他一些国家抱有渴望。当一个普通的印度人对美国不间断的电力、水供应和干净的街道充满渴望时,一个刚刚因为医疗紧急事件耗尽毕生积蓄的普通美国人可能会渴望我们在政府医院得到的免费治疗,而这在美国是没有的。我们的政府医院可能没有最新的技术,但它满足了最低的公分母——所有人的基本医疗保健。医院获得的任何额外资金取决于州政府的优先级。
We, as a country, are moving towards the summit WE set. We are sure being held back by multiple forces within, but at the same time given a push by other forces within. We will take our time, and relish every small victory. We might not be at the peak, but let us celebrate every level we achieve. In haste to compete with those who reached the summit before us, let us not forget the journey, the view. Let us get to OUR summit together.
As an Indian, I'm my country's best admirer. I'm also it's worst critic. Because it is my country, I have every right to point out it's issues so that I can live better, and make life better for the future. I also have my duties towards it. Do your duties and claim your rights, right? In this vast universe, if there is one place that I can call “home", it is India. Any metrices be damned. And that is my summit.
以“西方”国家为标准,印度可能会被击败,“全球北方”似乎是高人一等的,甚至完全忽略了他们所谓的“全球南方”,印度一再被西方国家的势利态度贬低。但这是否意味着我们就是他们所说的那样呢?绝对不算。我们必须努力做到自给自足。还记得农民vs技术控吗?随你怎么嘲笑农民,但在一天结束的时候,如果他吃得很香,睡得很香,他不需要关心技术人员对他的看法。是的,我们需要定期评估和重新设定我们的目标,但我们会按照我们的时间表来做,而不是按照其他国家的时间表。我们看到了在疫情下发生的事情,在最近的国际冲突中,我们不断地看到这种情况。
我们,作为一个国家,正在朝着我们所设定的高峰前进。我们肯定受到内部多种力量的阻碍,但同时也受到内部其他力量的推动。我们会慢慢来,享受每一个小的胜利。我们也许没有达到巅峰,但让我们庆祝我们取得的每一个水平。在匆忙与那些在我们之前到达顶峰的人竞争时,让我们不要忘记旅程、风景。让我们一起走向我们的高峰。
作为一个印度人,我是我的国家最好的崇拜者。我也是它最糟糕的评论家。因为这是我的国家,我有权指出问题所在,这样我就能过得更好,为未来创造更好的生活。我也有我的责任。履行你的职责,争取你的权利,对吧?在这浩瀚的宇宙中,如果有一个地方我可以称之为“家”,那就是印度。任何度量单位都是该死的。这就是我的高峰。
India is a developing country and the development varies from region to region, due to various factors.
Whenever someone poses a question about India’s development. People often show pictures of Skyline of Mumbai and Gurugram.
People in India often mistake Sky scrappers for development. A city having ‘n’ number of sky scrappers or ‘n’ number of billionaires isn’t a true measure of development.
Development must be inclusive, not exclusive.
Development should be sustainable.
Take Gurugram for example :
印度是一个发展中国家,由于各种因素,各个地区的发展情况不尽相同。每当有人对印度的发展提出问题。人们经常展示孟买天际线和古鲁格拉姆的照片。
印度人经常把摩天大楼误认为是发展。一个拥有n座摩天大楼或n个亿万富翁的城市并不能真正衡量发展。发展必须是包容的,而不是排外的。发展应该是可持续的。
以古鲁格拉姆为例:
It looks like this futuristic city that rivals cities like Tokyo.
But, is it really developed?
Answer is No.
For starters, Gurugram doesn’t have a fully functioning sewage system.[1] It doesn’t have a Municipal government. All the sewage is collected and dumped elsewhere.
Like this :
Compare this to Indore :
The city isn’t flashy, but the city has been consistently ranked as the cleanest city in India. Now it is a Water+ certified city. It has a fully functioning sewage system and a first class waste management system, with waste segregation being strictly implemented [2]
Is Gurugram a better city compared to Indore ? Certainly not.
Development certainly comes at a cost. However sustainable development cuts the cost by a large margin.
True measure of development:
True measure of Development is the HDI and meeting SDG(Sustainable development goals) because HDI and SDG count all important aspects of development.
看起来,这座未来主义的城市可以与东京这样的城市相媲美。但是,它真的发达的吗?答案是否定的。
首先,古鲁格拉姆没有一个功能齐全的污水处理系统,它没有市政府,所有的污水都被收集并倾倒在其他地方。就像这样:
相比之下,印多尔(另一座印度城市)并不光鲜,但一直被评为印度最干净的城市,污水处理系统完善,垃圾一级管理系统完善,垃圾分类严格执行。古鲁格拉姆比印多尔更棒吗?显然没有。发展当然是有代价的。然而,可持续发展大大降低了成本。
发展的真实度量:真正衡量发展的标准是人类发展指数和实现可持续发展目标,因为人类发展指数和可持续发展目标涵盖了发展的所有重要方面。
(1) No Poverty,
(2) Zero Hunger,
(3) Good Health and Well-being,
(4) Quality Education,
(5) Gender Equality,
(6) Clean Water and Sanitation,
(7) Affordable and Clean Energy,
(8) Decent Work and Economic Growth,
(9) Industry, Innovation and Infrastructure,
(10) Reduced Inequality,
(11) Sustainable Cities and Communities,
(12) Responsible Consumption and Production,
(13) Climate Action,
(14) Life Below Water,
(15) Life On Land,
(16) Peace, Justice, and Strong Institutions,
(17) Partnerships for the Goals.
States like Kerala, Tamilnadu, Himachal Pradesh consistently top the UN’s Sustainable development Goal rankings.
The reason why these states top the UN SGD rankings is that, they concentrate on Uniform, sustainable development. The states have high upward mobility.
It has gone from being a very low HDI country to Medium HDI country. But it still has a very long way to go.
联合国可持续发展目标排名考虑到:
(1)没有贫困;
(2)没有饥饿;
(3)健康和幸福;
(4)素质教育;
(5)性别平等;
(6)清洁用水和卫生;
(7)平价清洁能源;
(8)体面工作与经济增长;
(9)产业、创新和基础设施;
(10)减少不平等;
(11)可持续城市和社区;
(12)负责任的消费和生产;
(13)气候行动;
(14)水下生命;
(15)陆地生物;
(16)和平、正义和强大的体制;
(17)实现千年发展目标的伙伴关系。
喀拉拉邦、泰米尔纳德邦、喜马偕尔邦等邦在联合国可持续发展目标排名中一直名列前茅。这些邦之所以在联合国可持续排名中名列前茅,是因为它们专注于统一、可持续的发展。这些州有很高的向上流动性。
这也反映在人类发展指数的排名中:
(两张错误的印度地图)
在过去几十年里,印度在人类发展指数方面取得了巨大的飞跃。它已经从一个人类发展指数非常低的国家变成人类发展指数中等国家。但它还有很长的路要走。
Love this type of content where people are having constructive discussion without any bs.
喜欢这种类型的内容,人们有建设性的讨论,没有任何废话。
This is the reason why most of my family members go banana when I tell them Norway is more developed than USA.
这就是为什么当我告诉我的家庭成员挪威比美国更发达时,他们中的大多数人都气得发疯的原因。
People in India often mistake Sky scrappers for development. A city having ‘n’ number of sky scrappers or ‘n’ number of billionaires isn’t a true measure of development
But don't you think large number of skyscrapers/highrise buildings indicate that the city is attracting heavy investments? Take Shanghai for example. It has highest number of skyscrapers in the world and it's also one of the most developed and modern cities in the world. Skyscrapers are usually made where there is demands for them. They're certainly not a measurement of economic development but can be seen as effects of economic development.
“印度人经常把摩天大楼误认为是发展。一座拥有n座摩天大楼或n个亿万富翁的城市并不能真正衡量发展”
但是,你不认为大量的摩天大楼表明这个城市正在吸引大量的投资吗?以上海为例。它拥有世界上最多的摩天大楼,也是世界上最发达、最现代化的城市之一。摩天大楼通常在有需求的地方建造。它们当然不是经济发展的衡量标准,但可以被视为经济发展的影响。
Yes, skyscrapers can be seen as a measure of development, they aren’t alone a measure of true development. True development must be sustainable and inclusive.
For example : Sri Lanka had huge infrastructure projects funded by investments from China. They now defaulted on the debt.
This is Colombo:
We all know what Sri Lanka is going through now.
是的,摩天大楼可以被视为一种发展的衡量标准,但它们并不是衡量真正发展的唯一标准。真正的发展必须是可持续和包容的。例如:斯里兰卡有来自中国投资的大型基础设施项目。他们现在拖欠了债务。
我们都知道斯里兰卡现在正在经历什么。
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In my opinion, we still have a long way to go in HDI, because our basics aren’t solid. Quality school education is still inaccessible to majority. Too many mediocre engineering colleges, too few good universities, no encouragement to research etc.
在我看来,我们在人类发展指数方面还有很长的路要走,因为我们的基础还不牢固。大多数人仍然无法获得优质的学校教育。太多平庸的工程学院,太少的好大学,不鼓励研究等等。
Even Dubai doesn’t have a functional sewage system yet, btw.
顺便说一句,就连迪拜都还没有一个有效的污水处理系统。
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I wouldn’t call Dubai - a truly developed city-state yet. It runs on massive labor exploitation.
我不认为迪拜是一个真正发达的城市国家。它依靠大规模的劳动剥削而运行。
Dubai is a gigantic farce. It looks all flashy, but the reality beneath is far dirtier. As many flashy things are.
迪拜是一场巨大的闹剧。这一切看起来都很浮华,但背后的现实要肮脏得多,和浮华的东西一样多。
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Gurgaon is kind of Indian version of Dubai with all the glitters but no functioning sewage system.
古鲁格拉姆有点像印度版的迪拜,灯火辉煌却没有污水处理系统。
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This is all nonsense. None of our cities are sustainable. Neither the ones from Kerala nor the ones from MP nor Karnataka. We have to be ashamed of having cities like that and comparing among ourselves. All of us are poor. We should stop this HDI , literacy nonsense and start working towards actually becoming developed like how china has done.
这都是无稽之谈。印度没有一座城市是可持续发展的。无论是来自喀拉拉邦的,还是来自曼尼普尔或卡纳塔克邦的。我们必须为拥有这样的城市和我们之间的比较感到羞耻。
我们都很穷。我们应该停止这种人类发展指数和读写能力的无稽之谈,开始努力像中国那样真正发展起来。
Literacy nonsense and start working towards actually becoming developed like how china has done.
Have you been to various parts of China Or have you met Chinese people and asked their perspective on development?
Just asking.
你去过中国的各个地方吗?或者你见过中国人,问过他们对发展的看法吗?
单纯问问。
We are all a connected through internet, aren't we?. I can see videos of their cities on YouTube, can get data of their per capita GDP. China is not yet “developed” as per the definition of IMF or world bank, but they will reach there sooner than we thought. Even the “richest" state of India with all chest thumping HDI and literecy rate has a per capita income comparable to that Syria. Is this what we should call as “development” and go home to have a full night sleep ?
All of our states and cities are poor. We should accept it and work towards it.
我们都是通过互联网联系在一起的,不是吗?
我可以在YouTube上看到他们城市的视频,可以得到他们的人均GDP数据。按照国际货币基金组织或世界银行的定义,中国还不是“发达国家”,但他们会比我们想象的更快成为发达国家。即使是人类发展指数和识字率都非常高的印度“最富有”的邦,其人均收入也与叙利亚相当。这就是我们所谓的“发展”,然后回家睡个好觉吗?
我们所有的州和城市都很贫穷。我们应该接受它,并为之努力。