网友讨论：2022年冬奥会各获奖国家的比较
Highest medal won at the Beijing winter Olympics 2022
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对本届冬奥会获奖国家的比较
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Highest medal won at the Beijing winter Olympics 2022
2022年北京冬奥会获得奖牌最高的国家
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You should have made a new category colour for those that aren't even competing... Otherwise it is slightly misleading as it is.
你应该为那些甚至没有参加冬奥会的国家制作一个新的类别颜色......否则它会有点误导。
There should be a colour denoting countries who weren't there
应该为未参赛国单独列一种颜色。不是每个国家都参加冬奥会的。
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Fun Facts From Finland : Out of the eight medals we got, FIVE was given to the Niskanen family alone.
Also, there was Tanja Niskanen in the women's ice hockey team, no relation to Iivo and Kerttu.
关于芬兰的趣事：在我们获得的八枚奖牌中，仅尼斯卡宁一个家族就获得了五枚。
此外，女子冰球队中还有塔尼娅·尼斯卡宁，但她与伊沃·尼斯卡宁（芬兰男子越野滑雪运动员）和凯尔图·尼斯卡宁（芬兰女子越野滑雪运动员）（以上两人都来自上句所说的一个家族）没有任何亲缘关系。
The Balkans... The poor Balkans
巴尔干……可怜的巴尔干
The situation here is just depressing, Yugoslavia used to host winter olympics, however today ex-Yugoslav states (with exception of Slovenia) simply refuse to even pay for their athletes to compete. Olympic games aren't a science - you invest money in your population to practice from young age and at one point you will certainly produce medal winning athletes. The 90s simply destroyed any winter sports culture that ever existed and no money is ever being invested into such sports. All Balkan states combined send as many athletes as Slovenia alone, we aren't even trying.
What hurts me most is that the Balkans are a mountainous region that always has snow during winter and thus has many ski resorts. We should be able to produce some athletes ...
这里的情况令人沮丧，南斯拉夫曾经举办过冬季奥运会，但今天的前南斯拉夫各国（斯洛文尼亚除外）甚至拒绝为他们的运动员支付参赛费用。奥运会不是一门科学——你需要在你的人口中挑选投资他们，从小就开始练习，在某一时刻，你肯定能培养出获得奖牌的运动员。90 年代的战争简单地摧毁了任何曾经存在的冬季运动文化，并且没有任何资金投入到此类运动中。巴尔干所有国家派出的运动员加起来和斯洛文尼亚一样多，我们甚至没有尝试过。
最让我伤心的是，巴尔干地区是一个山区，冬天总是下雪，因此有很多滑雪胜地。我们应该能够培养出一些优秀运动员的......
Is Slovenia considered part of the Balkans? They always seem to do well at the Winter Olympics, especially for a country of its size.
斯洛文尼亚被认为是巴尔干半岛的一部分吗？他们似乎总是在冬奥会上表现出色，尤其是对于一个如此（小）体量的国家而言。
It isn't that Yugoslavia was a powerhouse when it comes to winter sports. Yugoslavia won its first medal on the winter olympics only in 1984 in Sarajevo on home turf and that was a silver by Jure Franko. In 1988, Yugoslavia won 3 medals (2 silver and 1 bronze). So not a single gold one in 70 years. All those medals won in Yugoslavia were won by Slovenians. So current results are nothing out of the ordinary.
After the breakup of Yugoslavia in 1992 (9 winter olympics), Croatia won 4 gold (3x 2002 and 1x 2006), 6 silver and 1 bronze (last medal won was a silver in 2014). Slovenia won 4 gold (2 each in 2014 and 2022), 8 silver and 12 bronze (with no medals in 1992, 1998 and 2006).
在冬季运动方面，南斯拉夫并不是一个强国。南斯拉夫仅在 1984 年在萨拉热窝的冬奥会主场赢得了它在冬季奥运会上的第一枚奖牌，那是 Jure Franko 获得的银牌。1988年，南斯拉夫获得3枚奖牌（2银1铜）。所以整个70年它都没有获得过一枚金牌。而且南斯拉夫获得的所有奖牌都是斯洛文尼亚人获得的。所以目前的结果并没有什么不寻常的。
1992 年南斯拉夫解体后的（9 次冬奥会），克罗地亚获得 4 枚金牌（2002 年 3 次和 2006 年 1 次）、6 银和 1 铜（最后一枚奖牌是 2014 年的银牌）。斯洛文尼亚赢得了 4 枚金牌（2014 年和 2022 年各 2 枚）、8 枚银牌和 12 枚铜牌（1992 年、1998 年和 2006 年没有奖牌）。
Well Croatia have some good alpine skiers like Zubčić, Kolega, Vidović etc.. Zubčić was in top 3 Giant slalom skiers, but this season his form isn't that good, he got only one 3rd place in slalom. Also, Kostelić family has won 4 gold, and 6 silver olympic medals, and Janica Kostelic is most decorated olympic alpine skier ever (if I'm not wrong).. problem with winter sports in Croatia is that there is no any traditions in other winter sports beside alpine skiing.. and for alpine skiing, we have to go in Slovenia, Austria or Bosnia, because winters are short and not that cold.. also, we have just two ski venues for practice in Croatia, one is in Zagreb, and one is near Rijeka. But anyway, we are spending money on ridiculous snow queen trophy in Zagreb.. it would be much better if we would spend that money on youth training in Slovenia or any other country with better facilities. So alpine skiing is the only sport here which have some kind of tradition, but we also won one bronce medal in biathlon, 2010.. problem with Croatian sport is that we don't have any system that would help develop young talents, we just have some sort of system in football.. almost every village here have their own local football club where all categories basically can play competitive football.. if nothing will change in future, every other sport in croatia could be dead..
克罗地亚有一些优秀的高山滑雪运动员，如祖布契奇、科莱加、维多维奇等。祖布契奇在大回转滑雪运动员中排名前三，但本赛季他的状态并不好，他在激流回旋中只获得了第三名。此外，科斯特利奇家族赢得了 4 枚金牌和 6 枚奥运会银牌，而贾尼卡·科斯特利奇是有史以来获得最多荣誉的奥林匹克高山滑雪运动员（如果我没记错的话）。
克罗地亚冬季运动的问题在于除了高山滑雪之外其他冬季运动项目方面没有任何传统.....高山滑雪，我们必须去斯洛文尼亚、奥地利或波斯尼亚，因为冬季很短，也没有那么冷.....而且，我们在克罗地亚只有两个滑雪场地可以练习，一个在萨格勒布，一个在里耶卡附近。但无论如何，我们在萨格勒布为荒谬的雪女王奖杯花钱。如果我们将这笔钱花在斯洛文尼亚或任何其他设施更好的国家的青年培训上，那就更好了。所以高山滑雪是这里唯一有某种传统的运动，但我们也在 2010 年冬季两项中获得了一枚铜牌。克罗地亚运动的问题是我们没有任何有助于培养年轻人才的系统，我们只在足球上有某种（青少年）选拔制度......几乎这里的每个村庄都有自己的当地足球俱乐部，所有这些俱乐部基本上都可以踢竞技足球。如果未来没有任何改变，克罗地亚的其他所有运动都可能濒临死亡。
Well we don’t win a lot of gold medals at the Winter Olympics in Australia. This was our first one since 2010
But it surprises me we even get any gold medals, since you have to go to another country half way across the world or get synthetic snow to even practice for most of the events
好吧，我们澳大利亚的冬季奥运会上赢得的金牌不多。这次是我们自 2010 年以来第一次获得金牌
但令我惊讶的是，我们甚至获得了金牌（这一事实），考虑到你必须去半个地球外的另一个国家或以人工合成雪才能练习大多数赛事项目这一情况
There are several places you can go skiing only a few hours out of both Melbourne and Sydney. Or in other words, half of the Aussie population can get to a ski lift in three hours.
Make no mistake, they are not fantastic resorts ..but not terrible either.
距离墨尔本和悉尼只有几个小时的路程，有几个地方可以滑雪。或者换句话说，一半的澳大利亚人可以在三个小时内到达有滑雪缆车的地方。
毫无疑问，它们不是很棒的度假胜地……但也不算坏了。
If takes about 6-7 hours from Sydney
如果从悉尼出发大约得需要 6-7 小时
I imagine Aussie skiing is equivalent to americans skiing in say North Carolina/Virginia. You can do it, but the slopes arent as steep, nor is natural snow as consistent as one would like
我想澳大利亚滑雪相当于美国人在北卡罗来纳或是弗吉尼亚州滑雪。你可以做到，但斜坡没有那么陡峭，自然雪也没有人们想要的那么一致
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Yep, that’s about it. Snow season only last for two months tops But what it does is it introduces a lot of people to it.. and since this is quite a rich country, considerable number of kids have the means to pursue this newfound passion properly elsewhere. Without our own ski resorts, chances are they never would have tried.
是的，就是这样。雪季最多只持续两个月，但它的作用是吸引了很多人……而且由于这是一个相当富裕的国家，相当多的孩子有办法在其他地方适当地追求这种新发现的激情。如果没有我们自己的滑雪胜地，他们可能永远不会尝试。
Belgium's last golden medal at the winter olympics dates back to 1948.It's the 2nd gold medal Belgium has ever won on the winter olympics.
比利时在冬奥会上获得的最后一枚金牌要追溯到1948年。这次是比利时在冬奥会上获得的第二枚金牌。
I didn’t know why Denmark doesn’t do well at Winter Olympics as its neighbors.
我不知道作为邻国的丹麦为什么在冬奥会上会表现如此不佳。
Denmark actually got nothing.....
丹麦居然什么也没拿到.....
Denmark. The black sheep of Scandinavia.
丹麦——斯堪的纳维亚国家的害群之马。
Those three neighbours all go up as far north as the Arctic and all have mountains, while Denmark sometimes doesn’t even get snow.
丹麦的三个（斯堪的纳维亚）邻国都向北远至北极，都有山脉，而丹麦有时甚至没有雪下。
BrianSometimes
We don't even have snowfall anymore. Added to the mountains and ski slopes we don't have, Winter Olympics is even less for us than it used to be.
我们这儿甚至经常不下雪了。加上我们没有高山和滑雪场，冬奥会对我们来说甚至比以前更远了。
We don't even have snowfall anymore
If NZ can do it, then there's no real excuse here.
“我们这儿甚至经常不下雪了”
如果新西兰都可以做到，那么这个问题上就没有真正的借口。
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the highest peak in denmark is 172m...
丹麦最高山峰的高度只有172米......
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That’s true, however I was thinking more about the indoor events. You see, the Netherlands and Belgium are doing just fine.
没错，但是我更多地考虑了室内活动。你看，荷兰和比利时做得就很好。
Emm how about skating or other events that don’t require any altitude?
Netherlands is on 8 Golds, all in Speed Skating (mainly long track)
There are only 40 speed skating rinks in the entire world. The Netherlands has the most (8) and the biggest one (Thialf).
Some of the Dutch rinks are even lower than sea level
嗯，滑冰或其他不需要任何高度的活动怎么样？
荷兰在速度滑冰（主要是长道）中获得了8 枚金牌
全世界只有40个速滑场。 荷兰拥有最多（8 个）和最大的一个（Thialf，译注：全球顶级专业运动冰场）。
一些荷兰溜冰场甚至低于海平面
Iceland surprised me.
冰岛（没有获得任何奖牌）让我吃惊
Tiny population.
他们人口太少了。
Iceland also doesn't really have the kind of terrain to support local talent.
There aren't the typical mountains or hills that support downhill skiing or the various sledding events.
The country is surprisingly warm in the winter, which restrict training for cross country skiing. This also means there is a lack of outdoor ice to support skating or curling like other countries.
冰岛也没有真正支持当地人才的地形。
没有支持速降滑雪或各种雪橇活动的典型山脉或丘陵地形。
这个国家在冬天出奇地温暖，限制了越野滑雪的训练。这也意味着缺乏像其他国家一样支持滑冰或冰壶的户外场地。
Hey now, there's probably at least some very confused people who think Iceland should be kicking ass at winter sports since Ice is in their name.
Do they even do anything on that island that doesn't involve snow or ice?
嘿，现在，可能至少有一些非常困惑的人认为冰岛应该因为冬季运动的薄弱而被打屁股，因为他们的名字里就带着冰嘛。
他们甚至在那个岛上不做任何涉及冰雪的事情吗？
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They certainly do. But need a bigger population to have someone come out of it at Olympic medal standard.
I'm sure half their national football team are also postmen, chefs, businessmen...
他们当然会。但是需要更多的人口才能让某人以奥运奖牌的标准脱颖而出。
我敢肯定他们的国足运动员里有一半的人同时也是邮递员、厨师、商人之类……
The Philippines has only one entrant in the Beijing Olympics: Asa Miller, who had a disappointing run in the men's giant slalom on Sunday.
菲律宾在北京奥运会上只有一名参赛者：阿萨·米勒，他在周日进行的男子大回转比赛中表现令人失望。
Latvia only got bronze this time...
拉脱维亚这次只拿到了铜牌……
a record number of countries have won at least one medal. The winter Olympics are becoming more diverse.
获得至少一枚奖牌的国家数量创历史新高。意味着冬奥会变得更加多样化。
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Latvia only got bronze this time...
英国终于还是拿到了金牌.....
I am rather surprised that Chile hasnt medaled. They have a decent level of wealth and development, and have huge mountains nearby
我很惊讶智利没有获得奖牌。他们有相当的财力和发展水平，境内也有高山
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Yes but very few people live by the mountains with quick access to snow in enough amounts to practice sports.
Ski centres for example are usually 2-3 hours driving away from large cities.
是的，但很少有人住在山区，能够快速获得足够量的雪来进行运动。
例如，滑雪中心通常都距离大城市有 2-3 个小时的车程。
They never medaled at any of the Winter Games, same for all of the other South American countries.
他们从未在冬季奥运会上获得过任何奖牌，所有其他南美国家都是如此。
You need some serious money to compete in Winter sports, like a lot. The vast majority of the population simply has no chance, thus we can only rely on our small elite to even compete at all.
就像很多其他项目一样，你需要很大一笔钱才能参加冬季运动。绝大多数人根本就没这个机会，所以我们只能依靠我们的极少数的精英，甚至根本无法形成竞争力。
There was at least one Chilean in the slopestyle, but they didn't medal.
斜坡式滑雪项目中至少有一名智利运动员参赛，但他们没有获得奖牌。
Europe + Anglosphere + Sinosphere
这张图显示的是：欧洲+盎格鲁圈+大中华圈
Aka “Countries that care about the winter Olympics”
又名“关心冬奥会的国家”
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Could also be a map of the richest countries.
也可能是最富有国家的地图。
Unsurprisingly the southern hemisphere didn't do very well.
不出所料，南半球表现不佳。
Could GDP be the cause? Money??? No, according to the European and north American, we in south America are just a big jungle, no winter, not snow, maybe some desert, somewhere...
GDP可能是原因吗？钱？不，按照欧洲和北美的说法，我们南美洲只是一个没有冬天、没有冰雪的大丛林，也许是沙漠的某个地方……
Northern hemisphere dominance wooo!
这是北半球的霸权！呜呜！
Crap, factor out AU and NZ and the entire southern hemisphere doesn't participate.
废话，除了澳大利亚和新西兰，整个南半球都不怎么掺和。
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I wonder what percentage of people in Africa live their entire life without seeing a single snowflake....
我想知道非洲有多少人一生都没看到过一片雪花……
Mexico didn't win any medals because everyone from Mexico who can run jump or swim is already in the United States.
墨西哥没有赢得任何奖牌，因为墨西哥每个会跑会跳或者会游泳的人都已经跑到美国去了。
Is it surprising that generally warm climates as found in South America, Africa and parts of Asia don't, or barely compete at WINTER games ?
This map would look a lot different for the summer games. As it's just geographical knowledge that it's more cold and there's more snow in the Northern hemisphere
南美洲、非洲和亚洲部分普遍温暖气候的地区不参加或几乎不参加冬季比赛，这是否令人惊讶？
对于夏季奥运会，这张地图看起来会大不相同。这只是地理知识，北半球更冷，雪更多
These countries also dominate summer Olympics. I think it's more about funding
（图中获得奖牌的）这些国家也照样主宰夏季奥运会。我觉得更多的是资金问题
Wow, I thought Jamaica had a good bobsled team?
哇，我以为牙买加有一支优秀的雪橇队？
（译者：牙买加雪橇队因好莱坞电影《冰上轻驰》(Cool Runnings)而名声大噪，虽然它现实中并没有取得过太好成绩，但一个热带国家长期坚持这个冰上项目而且运动员基本都来自本土，这一事实本身就很惊人了）
in real life the bobsled team performed not too well. still really good for a country with hot weather all year though
在现实生活中，雪橇队的表现并不是太好。不过对于一个全年天气炎热的国家来说仍然非常好
Lol south america and africa....4 billion people who can't ski
哈哈，南美和非洲……40亿人不会滑雪
The Southern Cone sure is disappointing.
南锥体国家确实令人失望。
Surprisingly Norway and Germany lead the ranking in front of all the other big nations like USA, China or Russia. Respect!
令人惊讶的是，挪威和德国领先于美国、中国或俄罗斯等所有其他大国。令人肃然起敬！
Not surprising at all tbh, both Germany and Norway are expexted to finish top three pretty much in every winter olympic games.They are «always» leading these charts.
一点也不奇怪，德国和挪威都在每届冬奥会上几乎都进入前三名。它们“总是”在这些排行榜上名列前茅。
WTF AFRICA, why didn’t Africa get a medal?
非洲怎么啦,为什么一块奖牌都没得到？
I mean, it's not exactly a continent known for its cold, snowy weather.
我想，非洲并不是一个以寒冷多雪天气而闻名的大陆。