医生待遇好吗（二)
How much do doctors earn?
译文简介
网友：我不知道为什么其他人不说出全部真相，我的看法是医生在从医学院毕业后并不能立即赚很多钱，但几年的经验可以创造奇迹，并大幅改变一个人的收入。我现在只是一个临床医学学士，但我可以告诉大家我父亲的例子：他过去挣多少钱？1990年完成医学博士学位后，作为一名内科医生，每月10000块......
正文翻译
How much do doctors earn?
医生待遇好吗？
评论翻译
很赞 ( 0 )
收藏
I don't know why others are not telling the whole truth, I mean it's true that doctors don't make much immediately after med school but a few years of experience can do wonders and drastically change one's earnings.
I am just an Mbbs as of now but I can give you my father's example. He used to earn ?10,000/month as a physician after he completed his MD in 1990(that's a lot considering the time period). As soon as his practice took off, he started earning more and more. As of now, he earns ?4,50,00,000 as we have 1 hospital and a few chemist shops, needless to say that he also practices every single day for 14-16hrs.
I am not trying to show off at all, hell, that's why I went anonymous; but I also wanted the youth reading these answers to know that besides having the satisfaction of saving someone's life, money is also there, and a lot of it for that matter. My request to other medicos is to not lie about their incomes(or at least mention their current income), that discourages aspirants preparing to enter our profession.
My apologies if I did sound a bit showy and pretentious, just trying to present the whole truth.
我不知道为什么其他人不说出全部真相，我的看法是医生在从医学院毕业后并不能立即赚很多钱，但几年的经验可以创造奇迹，并大幅改变一个人的收入。
我现在只是一个临床医学学士，但我可以告诉大家我父亲的例子：他过去挣多少钱？1990年完成医学博士学位后，作为一名内科医生，每月10000块（考虑到时间段，这是一笔很大的数字）。不久，他的事业就开始腾飞，他开始挣得越来越多。到目前为止，他的年薪是450万，因为我们有一家医院和几家药店，不用说，他每天工作14-16小时。
我一点也不想炫耀，见鬼，这就是我匿名的原因；但我也希望阅读这些答案的年轻人知道，除了满足于拯救某人的生命之外，能赚钱也是一个因素，而且在这方面有很多。我对其他医生的要求是，不要谎报他们的收入（或至少提及他们目前的收入），不然会阻止有抱负的人准备进入我们的行业。
如果我听起来有点炫耀和自命不凡，我向你道歉，只是想表达全部真相。
原创翻译：龙腾网 http://www.ltaaa.cn 转载请注明出处
I'm going 'Anonymous' intentionally because I don't want to create a debate here. First fact about doctors is that the average doctor earns more than the average engineer. That's I've noticed from many places, Considering demand and supply ratios, we have less doctor and more engineer.
I've seen doctors earning less than engineer in some places, but that's their choice like they don't want to shift to other place, they are too honest about their profession(but very hard to find such doctors)
Many of my friends are doctors, few of them live in villages and run a clinic or more. They earn more than any 5+ years engineer earn in a city like Bangalore. They just don't earn from consulting patient, but also earns via prescxtion of medicine. I remember an incident, we were going on a tour and needed a nice camera; a doctor friend demanded his MR for the same. In a day or two my friend got a new camera .
There are many incidents, I can list out here. I'm surprised that people here do not reveal the truth. May be one reason is that they don't pay taxes like engineers does.
I'm sorry, if this answer hurt to any doctors here, but that's a fact I've felt.
我故意“匿名”，因为我不想在这里因言论而引起争论。关于医生的第一个事实是，普通医生的收入高于普通工程师。这是我从很多地方注意到的，考虑到需求和供给比率，我们有更少的医生和更多的工程师。
我在一些地方见过医生的收入低于工程师，但这是他们的选择，就像他们不想转移到其他地方一样，他们对自己的职业过于忠诚（但很难找到这样的医生）
我的许多朋友都是医生，他们中很少有人住在村庄里，普遍开着一家或多家诊所。他们的收入比班加罗尔这样的城市任何一个工作5年以上的工程师都多。他们不仅仅是通过病人咨询来赚钱，还通过开处方来赚钱。我记得有一件事，我们要去旅游，需要一个漂亮的照相机；一位医生朋友要求他的先生也带一个。一两天之内，我的朋友就买了一台新相机。
我可以在这里列出更多事件。我很惊讶没有人透露真相，原因之一可能是他们不像工程师那样纳税。
如果这个答案伤害了这里的某个医生，我很抱歉，但这是我感觉到的事实。
My cousin brother is a famous doctor in Jharkhand state. In 2015, He came to Delhi to attend some conference. As he was travelling back to his place the next day, He came home. Next day, I went to drop him to the station when he asked me for my suggestion on a good sedan for his family. I replied, “BMW 5 series “ (Buy a BMW 5 Series brother) to which he replied “I can buy a BMW but it won’t run properly on the damaged roads of Jharkhand".
I was surprised that he can afford a BMW more than 50 lakhs.
我表哥是贾坎德邦的一位著名医生。2015年，他来到德里参加一些会议。第二天，当他返程时回家了。第二天，我把他送到车站时，他问我有关给他家买一辆好轿车的建议。我回答说，“宝马5系”（兄弟，买一辆宝马5系），他回答说“我可以买一辆宝马，但它在贾坎德邦受损的道路上无法正常行驶）。
我很惊讶他能买得起一辆超过500万卢比的宝马。
原创翻译：龙腾网 http://www.ltaaa.cn 转载请注明出处
Dhairy Boghani，在巴夫那加尔的公立医学院工作
The respect from everyone in the society. People believe us as hero. Students believe us ideal! Almost everyone calls your name with 'sir'!
Happiness we get after saving lives! Think of a person diagnosed with cancer comes after 3 years to you will normal reports and that smile he possess when you inform him same! Or only child of a old couple having high fever discharged normal after 3 days!
Money: (Standards of Gujarat, India)
Intern doctor - ?11,000.
MBBS doctor - Private practitioner ?40,000 to 50,000 (in city area. Add more ?20,000 for rural areas) Government medical officer - ?70,000–80,000.
Proffessors in medical colleges or Government MD/MS - ?1,00,000 and ?1,50,000 starting pay increase with experience and position.
Private Practitioner: MD doctor - ?1,00,000 to 2,00,000;
It all depends on how much anyone is capable of in both clinical and communicational skills! !
收入不仅限于金钱！医学专业是诺贝尔奖的奖项，不要只看钱的多少来判断。（虽然收入也不错）
获得社会上每个人的尊重。人们认为我们是英雄。同学们相信我们的理想！几乎每个人都用“先生”称呼你的名字！
我们在拯救生命后得到的幸福感!想想一个被诊断出癌症的人在3年后会的报告显示恢复正常，当你告诉他同样的消息时，他所拥有的微笑!或者想想一对老夫妇的独生子从发高烧到3天后就正常出院。
货币：（印度古吉拉特邦标准）
实习医生：11,000（卢比）。
临床医学医生-私人执业医生：40000到50000卢比（在城市地区，农村地区还要增加20000）政府医疗官员：70,000–80,000.
医学院教授或体制内医学博士/硕士：10万到15万的起薪并随着经验和职位的增加而增加。
私人执业医生：医学博士：10万到20万。
这完全取决于每个人在临床和交流技能方面的能力！
原创翻译：龙腾网 http://www.ltaaa.cn 转载请注明出处
Don't worry. U must remember that mbbs is in itself a v demanding course. And I've known people who hav failed who become amazing professionals and famous practitioners. There r academically rigorous people who give up on practicing and decide to do other things in life. So in the end “it's our choices more than our capabilities that makes us who we truly are”. But yes - boost ur confidence, and have that grit to not waste a single minute and work super hard towards ur goal with full conviction. But if u give up - u r denying yourself from that chance. So gud luck and keep fighting!
别担心。你必须记住，临床医学本身就是一门要求很高的课程。我认识一些失败的人同样成为了了不起的专业人士和著名的医生。然而有一些学术严谨的人放弃了练习，决定在生活中做其他事情。因此，最终“是我们的选择，而不是我们的能力，让我们成为真正的自己”。但是需要增强你的信心，并有勇气不浪费每一分钟，以坚定的信念朝着你的目标努力工作。但是如果你放弃，你就否认了自己的机会。祝你好运，继续战斗！
Not me, but my sister is a doctor.
Firstly I'll mention her earnings, then what she sacrified to become a doctor.
So, her earnings,
While she was doing her internship (2013–2014), the stipend she used to get was 15,000 INR.
Then, in 2015, she did a contract based job for 6 months and got some 70,000 INR.
And now, in her obstetrics and gynaecology she's getting 88,000.
What all she sacrificed,
Ummm, not only her, but us, her family too. :)
Well we are a nuclear family of 5. Mom, Dad, Deedo (i love calling her this), Me, Brother. She was born in 1991, me in 1996 and bro came to us in 2001. So, a gap of 5-years in 2 of us lead us in 3 different stages of life always, till date, unless all of us are adults.
我不是医生，但我姐姐是医生。
首先我要提到她的收入，然后是她为了成为一名医生而牺牲了什么。
她的收入：
在实习期间（2013年至2014年），她曾获得15000卢比的津贴。
然后，在2015年，她做了一份为期6个月的合同工作，得到了大约70000卢比。
现在，在她妇产科工作中，她得到了88000卢比。
她牺牲了什么：
不仅是她，还有我们，还有她的家人。
我们是一个五口之家。妈妈，爸爸，迪多（我喜欢这样称呼她），我，弟弟。她出生于1991年，我出生于1996年，弟弟于2001年出生。所以，除非我们都是成年，否则我们在人生的3个不同阶段一直存在5年的差距。
Okay, time passed, 2008, with God's grace, she got a great rank in All India Medical test exams for UG, she got MBBS in Bangalore Medical College and Research Institute, Bangalore. This time, 2024 kms away, but we were happy. Didi was going to be a Doctor. She used to visit us after every year for 15 days and we grew up almost without her. She graduated in March,2014, when i passed my 12th and bro was now in 7th standard. You see, he entered in teenage and me in adulthood, almost without her.
所以，当我在标准6年级，而弟弟在1年级时，我们不得不告别姐姐，她要离开我们镇去190公里外的昌迪加尔参加她的医学入学考试的辅导。她是他家人中间最喜欢的人。他曾经每天晚上因为想念她回家而哭泣。我过去常常坐在她身边，聊我一天的事，聊到每一个小问题，从个人问题到和兄弟吵架，再到我的家庭作业和画画，她都会帮我解决。现在，我是家里年纪最大的孩子了，太糟糕了。我很少和她打电话，因为我只是坐在妈妈身边，听妈妈和姐姐进行对话，因为她必须学习，而我是个内向的人。她每两个半月来看我们一次，每次只有两天，每次我和她道别时，她都会哭，并向我保证下次她会很快来，但通常不会很快就回来。
好吧，时间飞逝，2008年，在上帝的恩典下，她在全印度医学考试中获得了很好的排名，她在班加罗尔医学院和班加罗尔研究所通过了临床医学测试。这一次，她距离我们2024公里，但我们很高兴，迪迪打算当医生。她每年都会来看望我们15天，我们的成长过程中几乎没有她。她于2014年3月毕业，当时我通过了我的12年级考试，弟弟读7年级。你看，弟弟进入青少年时代了，我也进入成年，但我们的生活里几乎没有她。
Decided to try again, second time and this time, she did a job for 6 months in Government hospital, 32 sector, Chandigarh to gain some experience, and to freshen up her mind from constant studying. This time,2015, she didn't get a rank of her choice so she decided to try again. Not an easy-peasy task, only medicos know this. Hats off to them!
2016, second attempt, again, she wanted to clear for AIIMS , Chandigarh or a good government college in All India exam. Her wish, though, was to in AIIMS.
But, 2017, not yet.
3 years of her constant struggle, hard work and we had to be away from her. Why? Because in these 3 years, even when she was in home, no one from us was allowed to go her room. But we were happy, at least she was with us.
然后姐姐开始为医学博士入学考试做准备，但第一次考试运气不好。
她决定再试一次，这一次，她在昌迪加尔32区政府医院工作了6个月，获得一些经验，并从不断的学习中充实自己。这一次，2015年，测试排名礽不理想，所以她决定再试一次。这不是件容易的事，只有医生才知道，向他们致敬!
2016年，再次尝试，她想通过全印医学管理学院、昌迪加尔大学或一所好的印度政府大学的考试。然而，她的愿望是进入全英医学科学院。
但2017年还没有实现。
她持续奋斗了三年，努力工作，我们不得不离开她，为什么？因为在这三年里，即使她在家，我们也不允许任何人进入她的房间，但我们很开心，至少她和我们在一起。
Thank God????
2018, she got AIIMS, Delhi, her dream college and now she is in second year MD (obstetrics and gynaecology) working from 7 am in morning till 11 pm or sometimes even late till, 1 or 2 am.
Brother is now 18.5 Years old, I'm almost 24, Missing her since 11 years. We love her like anything.
Being doctor ain't easy. Almost every doctor's life is like that.
She used to be little arrogant and stubborn but since she has been doing and completed her MBBS, she's turned into such a humble person that I'm shocked.
I think, if soldiers protect us from border, doctors protect us in the border.
我在家里是个淘气的孩子（依据法规是个成年人，但我在家里是个孩子）。我只是习惯稳定地打开她的房间，像个白痴一样微笑，说嗨!然后回来。
感谢上帝！
2018年，她在德里的全印度医学研究院就读，这是她梦想中的大学，现在她是医学博士(妇产科)的第二年，从早上7点工作到晚上11点，有时甚至晚到凌晨1点或2点。
弟弟现在18岁半，我快24岁了，近11年以来想念她，我们如痴如狂的爱她。
当医生并不容易。几乎每个医生的生活都是这样的。
她过去有点傲慢和固执，但自从她完成了她的临床医学，她变成了一个非常谦逊的人，对此我感到震惊。
我认为，如果士兵能保护我们免受边境之害，医生也能在边境保护我们。
原创翻译：龙腾网 http://www.ltaaa.cn 转载请注明出处
亚伯拉罕·苏库马尔，全科医生，后来成为印度南部医学院的外科医生和外科教师
The remuneration doctors receive is much less than what their long training deserves. No surprise there. Their products are so critical for bodily wellbeing and survival that market forces cannot apply in their business. Doctors have to price their products to suit the purse of the patient. It has to be affordable. A coronary bypass may be worth a million but if the patient is poor it has to be offered free of cost. Even in the U.S. where hospital bills drive many to bankruptcy it is the hospitals and the drug trade that get the lion’s share of the profits. The doctor’s portion is modest.
In my long stretch in the profession, I have seen first-hand how doctors make their money. I am speaking of my experiences in India where doctors have considerable freedom on how they practise their profession. It may not be so in many developed countries. In the U.S. anyway it is the insurance companies that call the shots. A illustrative examples will give one an idea of the doctor’s side of the medical business.
人们普遍认为，一旦你有资格成为一名医生，你就可以看着资金流入，这与事实相去甚远。你不会贫穷，这是肯定的。一般的中产阶级地位或多或少是有保障的，但要想获得更多，就必须努力工作。医生要想致富，需要比其他职业付出更多的持续努力。
医生得到的报酬远低于他们长期培训应得的报酬。这并不奇怪。他们的产品对身体健康和生存至关重要，市场力量无法应用于他们的业务。医生必须为他们的产品定价以适应病人的钱包。它必须是负担得起的。冠状动脉搭桥手术可能价值100万美元，但如果病人很穷，就必须免费提供。即使在美国，医院的账单让很多人破产，医院通过药品交易也获得了最大的利润份额，医生的收入不多。
在我漫长的职业生涯中，我亲眼目睹了医生是如何赚钱的。我说的是我在印度的经历，那里的医生在如何执业方面有相当大的自由。在许多发达国家，情况可能并非如此。无论如何，在美国，由保险公司来决定。举个例子将使人对医疗行业的医生方面有所了解。
Dr. S was a competent physician. He was an assistant physician in a teaching unit in a government medical college hospital. His was a full-time government job in which the rules allowed him to have a private practice in his spare time. An early riser he started seeing cases at 7.30 AM in a part of his house that he set apart as his clinic. At nine he left for hospital often breakfasting in the car. In the hospital, he performed his duties to the full satisfaction of his chief, his students, and his patients. His hospital duties will be over by 2.00 PM. After lunch and a brief rest, he left for his clinic in another part of the city. In this clinic, he was a consultant. He saw a steady stream of cases and by the time he was home, it was past 10.00 PM.
This was his routine day after day. He took a day off only when sick. His children had only glimpses of him and his wife had to represent him in family functions. He had never been on a proper vacation. His devotion to his practice was total. He was rich. But he made his money in the hardest way possible. His neighbour to the right was a wholesale grain merchant. He did not make his money in small bits like the doctor but in large chunks by moving loaded lorries from one place to another through telephonic instructions. His neighbour to his left was a politician. He neither treated the sick nor moved loaded lorries, but he made money nevertheless, tons of it.
首先，那些财务状况良好的公司。
S医生是一位称职的医生。他是一所公立医学院医院一个教学单元的助理医生。他是一名全职政府工作人员，根据规定，他可以在业余时间开一家私人诊所。作为一个早起的人，他从早上7点30分就开始在自己房子里的一个地方看病，这个地方被他作为自己的诊所。九点钟，他去医院，经常在车里吃早饭。在医院里，他履行了自己的职责，使他的主任、学生和病人完全满意。他的医院工作将于下午2点结束。午餐和短暂休息后，他前往城市另一个地方的诊所。这是他每天的例行公事。在这家诊所，他是一名顾问。他看到了源源不断的病例，当他回家时，已经是晚上10点多了。
这是他每天的例行公事。他只有在生病时才请一天假。他的孩子们也只能短暂的看到他，他的妻子不得不在家庭活动中代表他。他从来没有过真正的假期。他全身心投入到医生业务中，他很富有。但他以最艰难的方式挣钱。他右边的邻居是一位谷物批发商人，他并不像医生那样小打小闹，而是通过电话指令把满载货物的卡车从一个地方运到另一个地方来赚钱。他左边的邻居是一位政治家。他既不治病，也不运货，但他还是赚了很多钱。
His skills as a clinician were not the only reason for his success. Some of his colleagues were as capable as he was. They would have loved to do what he was doing. But capability as a doctor is not enough to reach great heights as practitioners. Setting up a practice, staffing the clinic, and having a network of practitioners to refer cases need people skills, business skills, and political skills and those have to be inborn. Imparting those skills does not form part of the medical curriculum.
这位医生的工作与生活是如此不平衡，以至于愤世嫉俗者可能会说，在他漫长的职业生涯中，这位医生正在经历30年的劳役。医生不是这么看的。如果赚钱是他的唯一目标，他可以走邻居走过的路，甚至更好的路，因为他很聪明，但他选择当医生是因为他喜欢。他为自己所做的一切感到骄傲，他的同行们都很羡慕他。
他作为临床医生的技能并不是他成功的唯一原因。他的一些同事和他一样能干。他们会喜欢做他正在做的事。但是，作为一名医生的能力还不足以达到执业医师的高度。建立一个诊所，为诊所配备人员，并拥有一个执业人员的网络来转诊病例，需要人际交往技能、商业技能和政治技能，而这些技能必须是天生的，传授这些技能并不构成医学课程的一部分。
乔迪·里特，住在迈阿密
Ps. I am not putting down people that work at walmart. I just wanted to give an idea of a job that pays a similar hourly rate.
这取决于你怎么看。让我们拿一个大学毕业生作比较，医生要再上4年的医学院，他们将每周在课堂、轮换和解剖实验室和图书馆的额外时间之间投入大约70-80小时。为此，他们通常会负债30万左右。我可以告诉你，我每周工作超过80小时，但不是每个人都这样。内科医生每周工作80小时，这一年的收入约为5万。同样的，还有3年的进修时间。到目前为止，我们已经投入了超过38000小时的工作。现在，我们无法以每年5万的赚钱速度偿还30万的贷款，但我们可以说，政府不向我们征税，也不收取贷款利息。3.8万小时，我们赚了0美元。现在，我们是一名心脏病专家，一周工作60小时左右，年收入25万美元。
原创翻译：龙腾网 http://www.ltaaa.cn 转载请注明出处
Ashish K，内容管理（2017年至今）
Plus acquiring medical expertise is time consuming process, so it lakes long to reach a stage when one is actually high paid. Very few can reach that level.
和股票价格一样，专业人士的收入取决于供求关系。医生往往集中在城市地区，这导致了供过于求，这反映在医疗行业入门级工作中的工资较低。
此外，获取医学专业知识是一个耗时的过程，所以要达到一个真正高薪的阶段需要很长时间，很少有人能达到这个水平。