崩坏3动画短片《阿波卡利斯如是说》油管评论

[ Mazurome ZERO ]
”You either DIE a HERO, or LIVE LONG enough to see yourself become the VILLAIN.”
He did both.
He lived a villain.
He died a hero.
Rest in peace, Otto Apocalypse.
 
“要么作为英雄而死，要么苟活到目睹自己变成恶棍”
他都做到了。
他作为恶人而活。
他作为英雄去死。
安息吧，奥托阿波卡利斯。
 
DiGi
"Died a hero" By murdering 500 years worth of humanity?
 
摧残人类500年也算“作为英雄去死”？
 
Artemio Coñado
 @DiGi  he created a different timeline where Kallen didnt die in exchange for his life and existence in both world, the current timeline is unaffected
 
他创造了一条不同的时间线，在那里卡莲没有死于换取奥托的性命在两个世界的存在，当前的时间线不受影响。
 
Yogi
And just like that. All it took was one CG and everyone are now calling him a hero and ignore all the atrocities he committed in his life lmao.
Idk why you simps like to paint him a hero when Otto himself never views himself as a fucking hero.
 
就像这样，只需要一部动画短片，所有人就都称他为英雄，无视他一生中犯下的所有罪行，笑死我了。
我不知道为什么你们这些傻瓜喜欢把他描绘成英雄，而奥托自己却从来不把自己当成什么狗屁的英雄。
 
hafid luqmanul hakim
Hero? You stupid or what?
 
英雄？你是傻还是怎么回事？
 
루엔Luen
Everlasting Flame: For all the beauty in the world
Thus spoke Apocalypse: For the only beauty in the world
 
薪炎永燃：为了世界上所有的美好
阿波卡利斯如是说：为了世界上唯一的美好
 
Eien Gem
Is Otto's desire finally fulfilled? Yes.
Was he able to see Kallen one last time? Probably.
Does Kallen knew he 'saved' her? No.
Did he die? Most likely.
If they ever meet and circumstances were known, he would only receive disdain and utter hate from her but this he understand.
The moment that he started his 'journey' of 'saving' her, he never once hesitated.
He knew that when he made 'that' mistake, he lose the right to become happy and yet he never grieved.
He immediately set out to find a way to correct such mistake but unfortunately only by pilling more of it was what he can see.
Such is not a tale of love but of a man blindly seeking the only "right" thing that he believed to exist in his world.
The "Apocalypse's" crest became the sorry existence for this tragic dream.
 
奥托的愿望最后实现了吗？是的。
他能见到卡莲最后一面吗？可能。
卡莲知道他“救”了她吗？不知道。
他死了吗？很有可能。
如果他们见了面，情况被了解，她只会瞧不起他，痛恨他，但他明白这一点。
从他开始“拯救”她的“旅程”的那一刻起，他就从未犹豫过。
他知道，当他犯下“那样的”错误时，他就失去了快乐的权利，但他从不悲伤。
他立即开始寻找纠正这种错误的方法，但不幸的是，他造成了更多的错误。
这不是一个爱情故事，而是一个男人盲目地寻找唯一“正确”的东西的故事，因为他相信这样的东西存在于他的世界。
阿波卡利斯的纹章因为这个悲剧的梦想成为了遗憾的存在。
 
Ziming Zhou
There's a little part after this video in the game,Kallen know this now
 
在游戏中，这段视频之后还有一小部分，所以卡莲是知道的。
 
Eien Gem
 @Ziming Zhou  I see. Thanks for pointing it out! I was just overwhelmed with emotion that I suddenly had the urge to write this. Will be checking it out soon.
 
我明白了。谢谢你指出来！我只是因为情绪激动让我突然有了写这些的冲动。我会去看看的。
 
Karma Kitty
Isn’t she in love with yae? Sorry if this is controversial
 
卡莲不是喜欢八重樱吗？如果这有争议的话我很抱歉
 
Pandaalifter
 @Karma Kitty  Ye she is, but Otto is fine with her loving someone else as long as she's alive.
 
是的，但奥托不介意她喜欢其他人，只要她活着。
 
Lite-Bosmark
 @Karma Kitty 
Yae is dead at this point, and Otto only wants to give Kallen a chance to live. Whether she hates Otto or not, he doesn't care at this point
 
这时候八重樱已经死了，而奥托只想给卡莲一个活下去的机会。不管她恨不恨奥托，现在的他不在乎。
 
Amaya Senpai
Otto has my respect, he is one of the best villains and well written characters in the game. And thank you Mihoyo for another masterpiece.
 
奥托获得了我的尊重，他是游戏中最优秀的反派、也是塑造得很好的角色之一。感谢米忽悠做出又一部杰作。
 
B0nn1 Png
100 percent agree
 
我完全同意。
 
Цой Кирилл
Bro, Otto is stupid clown who started genocide only to try to resurrect girl, who already has girlfriend. I don't know in which place you can call him great villain
 
兄弟，奥托是个愚蠢的小丑，他仅仅想要复活一个已经有女朋友的妹子就开始大屠杀。我不知道他哪个地方让你可以称他为大反派。
 
Amir Bautista
 @Цой Кирилл  you are the clown
 
你才是小丑
 
Ashera_Gaming2
fr this was a banger, otto may be the bad guy but i still find his and kallen's story sad af. nor kallen or otto deserved that
 
奥托可能是个坏人，但我还是觉得他和卡莲的故事很悲伤，这不是他和卡莲应该遭受的。
 
Raiden Mei
 @Цой Кирилл  read the lore and come back, child
 
去看看故事再回来，孩子
 
Star S
 @Raiden Mei  people don't read the lore and call him a simp make me sick ngl
 
有人不看故事，还说他愚蠢，老实说这让我恶心
 
Kuromaki
 @Цой Кирилл  He doesn't want Kallen's love, he just want to give what Kallen deserved
 
他不想要获得卡莲的爱，他只想给卡莲她应得的。
 
Anthony Gutierrez
Man ain't otta and Obito are the same
 
兄弟，奥托和宇智波带土不是一样吗
 
CrasusC
Love Otto's Chinese VA. He's got mad skills!
Edit: just found his name: Zhao Lu. He is also the VA for Ayato in Genshin
 
喜欢奥托的中文配音演员。他的能力好强！
刚找到他的名字：赵路。他也是原神里凌人的配音。
 
MRuddin
Hoping Ayato will be as badass as Otto. And just as important of a character too.
 
希望凌人是像奥托一样的坏人，也希望是同样重要的角色。
 
Chlo912
Now I see this as this:
Himeko's sacrifice is like one for all, herself for Kiana, and for the future of their world and making it a better place, as Kiana would live on carrying her legacy.
For Otto, it's for Kallen to live a better life, knowing damn well it will create some problems for the future in their world, but he did it all for her to live fairly, like all for one.
 
我是这么理解的：
姬子的牺牲是一个人为了一切，她为了琪亚娜，为了她们世界的未来，为了让世界变得更美好，因为琪亚娜将传承她的意志。
对奥托来说，是为了让卡莲活得更好，他很清楚这样做会给他们的世界带来一些问题，但他做的一切都是为了她公平地生活，是一些为了一个人。
 
Tiago Rocha
From what I understood he won't create any problem for the future in their world, what he did was break the 4th dimension (time) and create a new branch, meaning, a new timeline where the one and only her is alive and well, after all the imaginary tree, being the source of all life and its universes, being in constant growth, it should be able to create the world Otto wants if he can reach it and manipulate it.
 
根据我的理解，这不会对他们世界的未来产生麻烦，他所做的是打破第四维度（时间），创造一个新的分支，也就是一条新的时间线，在那里，唯一的她还活着，这毕竟是虚数之树，是所有生命和宇宙的起源，是在不断增长的，它应该能够创造出奥托想要的世界，如果他能够触及并操纵它的话。
 
Chlo912
 @Tiago Rocha  yeah ,its just the process and his own doings that got him to finally succeed making a new branch, all for the person he loves, for her to live a life she deserves, it got me thinking on how it’s all for one, he knew what he did was wrong, he’s fully aware, yet he proceeded forward for a new branch.
I pretty much respect him as a great villain troupe that sacrifices all for one person.
 
是的，就是这个过程和他自己的所作所为，让他最终成功地创造了一个新的分支，一切都是为了他所爱的人，为了让她过上她应得的生活，这让我想到这是一切为了一个人，他知道他所做的是错误的，他完全清楚，但他还是为了一个新分支而前进。
我非常尊重他，因为他是一个大反派，为了一个人牺牲一切。
 
natsu igneel
 @Chlo912  Actually, there is a reason why he won't just rewind time in that branch (their timeline). Because as otto mentioned, a vessel couldn't gather a mind (soul) that already gone. So, even if he rewind the time, the 'world' wouldn't allow that. For reference, zhunge kongmimg story.
So instead, he create an 'empty' branch then comeback to the time where kallen soul still in her body and then save her. With this method, he rerouted the flowing of time to the new branch thus creating a new timeline. Pretty much otto yeeted kallen to new timeline.
This also explain why the sky turned from night to day. Cuz, time was 'followed' otto.
 
事实上，他不让他们那条时间线倒流是有原因的，因为正如奥托所说，一个容器无法收集已经消失的灵魂。所以，即使他让时间倒流，“世界”也不允许这种情况发生。举个例子，诸葛孔明的故事。
因此作为替代，他创造了一个“空白”的分支，然后回到卡莲的灵魂仍在她体内的时候，并救下她。通过这种方法，他将时间流导向新的分支，从而创造了一条新的时间线。基本上是奥托把卡莲给带到了新的时间线。
这也解释了天空从黑夜变成白天的原因。因为时间是“遵从”奥托的。
 
Lord Ashura
Its fitting how Otto chooses the Judgment of Shamash(aka Might of An'Utu) as his last weapon.
It symbolizes his dedication to sacrifice himself for the one he loves, which is ironically a Kaslana weapon and motif to risk their lives for the ones they love.
Its also a weapon notorious for killing its user for the price of its destructive power.
Otto knew that this would be his final moment and he defiantly charged forward.
 
奥托选择了天火自裁来作为他最后的武器，这很合适。
它象征着他为了所爱的人牺牲，讽刺的是，这是卡斯兰纳家族的武器，宗旨是为了他们所爱的人冒生命危险。
它也是一把臭名昭著的武器，以其强大的破坏力为代价杀死它的使用者。
奥托知道这将是他最后的时刻，而他勇敢地向前冲去。
 
J B
That’s beautiful
 
这很美
 
Var1aty
Yeah Kallen’s father also used it to save Kallen’s life before. It’s quite sad that two of the people she loved sacrificed themselves using basically the same weapon. If Kallen is the world then Otto is her Kaslana.
Also before I get hate for saying Kallen loved Otto she did love Otto as her best friend. Her Great Inventor.
It’s so sad that Kallen made Otto promise that he wouldn’t die for her. But Otto spent the next 500 years breaking that promise.
 
是的，卡莲的父亲以前也用它来救了卡莲的命。她所爱的两个人用同一把武器牺牲自己来救她，这很悲伤。如果卡莲是世界，那么奥托就是她的卡斯兰娜。
另外，以前我讨厌说卡莲爱着奥托，但她确实爱着奥托，把奥托当做她最好的朋友，她的大发明家。
卡莲曾经让奥托保证他不会为了她而死，但奥托在接下来的500年里违背了这个承诺，这太让人难过了。
 
Soundwave16
I'm glad there's people who look deeper into things than me, thank you
 
我很高兴有人比我看问题更深入，谢谢
 
Teniun Alware
I hate Otto, but I just realized one thing. His goal was to save humanity, and Kallen was the pure, perfect, beautiful embodiment of it.
He caused a lot of deaths, destruction and suffering, but in his eyes, he never harmed the humanity, because it was not there anymore... it was gone with her.
 
我讨厌奥托，但我刚刚意识到一件事。他的目标是拯救人类，而卡莲就是这一目标的纯洁、完美、美丽的化身。
他造成了很多死亡、破坏和痛苦，但在他眼里，他从未伤害过人类，因为人类已经不存在了……已经随着她的死亡而消失了。
 
Ziyue He
Yeah I still hate otto to this day but I can respect his determination
And I love kallen so all is well
 
是的，直到现在我仍然讨厌奥托，但我尊重他的决心。
而且我喜欢卡莲，所以这没问题。
 
Latifa Fleuranza
Over five hundred years of dedication to a single goal, to a single person. And this man accomplished it.
 
五百多年的牺牲只为了一个目标，为了一个人，而他做到了。
 
Umigamingz
But at what cost?
 
但代价是什么呢？
 
인 이
 @Umigamingz  nothing. He doesn't care what it costs. He justs do it cause he wants to
 
没有。他不在乎什么代价。他想做然后就做了。
 
Crimson Scythe
I swore that I would never forgive Otto, but I changed my mind. Seeing his determination really changed my view on him. From the moment he gave his message to Theresa, and then, when he finally reached Kallen and deliver his final words. God freaking heck do I cried. Seriously crying. No other Honkai cinematic ever did this to me, and why it must be you, Otto, the one that we all despised so much? I can't believe it, but you did it, you absolute mad man!
We might not ever could condone his crimes, but the least that we could do is to wish him peace. He suffered hundreds of years just for the one that he loved. He dedicate his life, willing to play as the bad guy just to change history, to undo his wrong, to save her that he cannot save.
Otto is human just like all of us. He was a fragile, wounded soul, tormented and twisted into a wretched person that he was... But deep inside, he's still human. He cared, he loved, and he's willing to sacrifice himself for others. He's even willing to sacrifice the whole world, just for she that saved his childhood.
Rest in peace, Otto Apocalypse. Best written villain, and one of the best character in the whole series. The one that we hate the most, and the one that we respect the most.
 
我曾发誓永远不会原谅奥托，但我改变了想法。我看到了他的决心，这真的改变了我对他的看法。从他给德丽莎留言的那一刻，到他终于找到卡莲，说出最后一句话，天啊，我他妈的哭了，真的哭了。没有其他崩坏动画做到这一点，为什么一定是你，奥托，那个我们如此鄙视的人？我不敢相信，但你做到了，你这个十足的疯子！
我们可能永远都不会宽恕他的罪行，但我们至少可以愿他安息。就为了他所爱的人，他受了几百年的苦。他牺牲了自己的生命，愿意扮演坏人，只是为了改变历史，为了弥补自己的错误，为了拯救他无法拯救的她。
奥托和我们一样也是人。他是一个脆弱、受伤的灵魂，饱受折磨，扭曲成了一个可怜的人。但在内心深处，他还是个人。他关心，他爱护，他愿意为他人牺牲自己。他甚至愿意牺牲整个世界，就为了那个拯救了他童年的她。
安息吧，奥托阿波卡利斯。塑造得最好的反派，也是整个系列中最好的角色之一。他是我们最讨厌的人，也是我们最尊重的人。
 
Jumbo Piece
"Time to leave where I have stood so long"
Favorite line after knowing his story. Time to rest Otto
 
“是时候离开我待了这么久的地方了”
在了解他的故事后，这是我最喜欢的台词。该休息了奥托。
 
reviqqo
I keep forgetting that this a game, and not an anime or movie. This much dedication goes into a game, that too one that was originally a mobile game.
Otto is a very well written villain. He represents human desires that are too selfish to be suppressed very well. There is a lot of realism in his character. I only admire his dedication towards Kallen, who he believed was generically wronged by the world and deserved and ending where she could continue to do what she enjoyed. But then there's all the other very messed up shit he's done, he might have a strong will but his obsession with delivering "justice" satisfied him in the end, but the process arguably did more harm than good for the others around him. Eitherway, it is a fitting end for his character.
 
我总是忘记这是一款游戏，而不是动画或电影。这么多精力投入到了一款游戏中，一款最初只是手机游戏的游戏。
奥托是一个塑造得非常好的反派。他代表了人类的欲望，这些欲望太过于自私以至于无法很好地抑制。他的性格中有很多现实主义色彩。我只是佩服他对卡莲的牺牲，他认为卡莲被这个世界不公正的对待，她应该以继续做自己喜欢做的事为结局。但是，他做了很多非常糟糕的事情，他可能有强烈的意志，但最后，他对传递“正义”的痴迷让他欣慰，然而这个过程对他周围的人来说伤害多于益处。无论如何，对他的角色来说，这是个合适的结局。
 
Pham Phu minh (Victoriasch)
No matter how much of an ass Otto is, I’ll admit this. He is the epitome of a man. Through 500 years, he suffered, sacrificed and persevered. He did so many things, committed countless atrocities and killed dozens of people and yet not once did he waver from his goal.His strong will and determination just awes me beyond belief. And now at long last, his wish has been fulfilled. Gotta say Allen is one lucky girl to have charmed such a man lol.
 
不管奥托有多混蛋，我都承认，他就是混蛋。他是个男人的典范。500年来，他经历了苦难、牺牲并锲而不舍。他做了那么多事情，犯下了无数暴行，杀害了很多人，但他对自己的目标从未动摇过。他坚强的意志和决心让我敬畏。现在，经历了长久的坚持，他的愿望终于实现了。不得不说，能够迷住了这样一个男人，卡莲是个幸运的女孩，哈哈。
 
MAKEOUTHILL 999
You don't have to suffer, to sacrifice and to commit crimes just to be a "real" man xDD Yeah I admire Otto for his perseverance and his indifference, but it is SO wrong to call him "the epitome of a man". Imagine there are some kids reading your comment and after they finish reading it they are like: "Yeah man!!! That's soo cool! When I grow up I want to be !! I want to sacrifice, to suffer and to commit countless crimes to be a REAL MAN!!"
 
成为一个“真正的”男人，你不必受苦、牺牲和犯罪。是的，我钦佩奥托的毅力和冷漠，但称他为“男人的典范”是大错特错的。想象一下，一些孩子读了你的评论，他们读完后会说:“耶！！这太酷了！当我长大后，我要成为“男人的典范”！我想要牺牲、受苦、犯下无数罪行，成为一个真正的男人！！”
 
saNNsidotti
 @MAKEOUTHILL 999  And yet the same kids will grow up to see that it's not "sacrifice and kill" that makes one a "man"... Chill out, they are just sharing their opinion on Otto, and it's not as if it was the absolute truth
 
然而同样的孩子长大后会明白，并不是“牺牲和杀戮”使一个人成为“男人”，冷静点，他是在分享他对奥托的看法，而且这并不是绝对的事实。
 
Felix's Mullet
​ @MAKEOUTHILL 999  chill dude, otto is a villain, we all know that. I'm sure no kid in the world is dumb enough to follow his footsteps because some rando on the net called him the 'epitome of a man'.
 
冷静，兄弟，奥托是个恶人，我们都知道这点。我敢肯定，世界上没有哪个孩子会蠢到因为网上有人把他称为“男人的典范”而追随他的脚步。
 
Zino Kohiruimaki
For! Those that didn’t understand what Otto did, he just created another Timeline where Kallen’s death is Prevented instead of changing the current timeline.
 
写给那些不明白奥托做了什么的人，他创造了另一条阻止卡莲死亡的时间线，而不是改变当前的时间线。
 
Oregon32
I still dont understand if he could do that then why did he tell everyone that the outside os kolosten will be returned 500 years
 
我还是不明白，如果他能做到这一点，那他为什么要告诉所有人他要让时间倒流500年？
 
Black Templar
 @Oregon32  that is a lie so doodoo and kiana have motivate to beat him
 
这是个谎言，以便幽兰戴尔和琪亚娜有动力打败他
 
Illustris
His goal wasn't to bring back Kallen after all. It was to create a past where she never left.
 
毕竟他的目标不是让卡莲复活，而是创造一个她从未死亡的过去。
 
Jast Caz
 @Oregon32  He basically lied/bluffed/goaded them into using their full powers because HoV's powers and the Abyss Flower at full power were neccessary things to get to the Imaginary Tree.
 
他基本上是在说谎、吓唬、刺激他们，以便让他们全力以赴，因为空律和黑渊白花的全部力量是到达虚数之树的必要条件。
 
Mirx Byty
What ive always loved about these Animated Shorts is that the short Soundtracks between Fights are ALWAYS SO FUCKING GREAT!!
 
我一直喜欢这些动画短片的地方是，打斗之间的配乐总是那么棒！！
 
Sorrymasen
I really want the whole story to be animated, the animation is just really good, the plot, the music and the well written characters and let's not lie the whole community wants to have it
 
我真的希望整个故事能做成动画，动画非常棒，情节、音乐和角色的塑造，说实话，整个社区都想看到这样的动画。
 
SASA
When he said “Kallen, live” it reminded me of the final lesson, same word himeko told kiana
 
当他说“卡莲，活下去”时，我想起了《最后一课》，姬子对琪亚娜说过同样的话。
 
Lunabi
I don't really know about the story of Honkai Impact, but this animation left me feel so... empty and on the verge of tears. The visuals, soundtrack, voice acting... Truly wonderful.
 
我不太了解崩坏3的故事，但这个动画让我觉得…空荡荡的，快要哭了。视觉效果、配乐、配音…真的很棒。
 
Anhilliator1
He doesn't look to be forgiven.
He doesn't expect to be forgiven.
But if it's for her... to force the universe to give her another chance, he'll do whatever it takes.
No matter what happens, no matter what he is forced to do, what he has to sacrifice, as long as she lives fairly, that is enough.
Let's be honest, it takes some really masterful writing to both make you hate a character so much and still make you feel and understand why he does what he does.
 
他不寻求被原谅。
他不指望被原谅。
但如果是为了她…为了迫使宇宙再给她一次机会，他会不惜一切代价。
无论发生什么，无论他被迫做什么，无论他要牺牲什么，只要她能公平的活着，这就够了。
老实说，要让你如此痛恨一个角色，同时又能让你感受到并理解他为什么这么做，这需要一些高超的写作技巧。
 
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Looking at all the comments with the infamous Harvey's quote from The Dark Knight "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" is something I wholeheartedly agree, even when I first saw this that quote immediately come to mind. But later pondering on it and rewatching this again and listening to the song's video, I believe this quote is quite far from what the video is representing
See Otto's "love" was more of admirations instead of romantically; admiring Kallen's heroism and had always wanted to support her, being the Robin to her Batman. But when the World (Old Schicksal, Kaslana Household, etc.) didn't see her as the hero, Otto was dumbfounded. The first person who helped that sickly, weak boy 500+ years was treated as a criminal, a nuisance, another thing to be used and then discarded; His hero being treated as a villain. He tried his best to save her, but even she refused, as one of the Kaslana's annoying but admirably trait; their self-sacrifice and selflessness. But like Mei, Otto doesn't want her to carry everything by herself and desperately wished to share the burden, but again rejected. When she was killed by what could technically be by his own hands, I think that's when he snapped: waging war against his sister and nephew, experimenting and cloning, making deals that only benefits himself, and getting alot of people killed, others and even his own. All those were preparations, for the last 500 years, to revive the hero who shouldn't have died.
Like if Robin becoming the Joker for Batman to be relevant, like Snape needing to kill Dumbledore to save him but will looked like a betrayer, and even like Mei who have to become a Herrscher to save her dear friend....
"If you want to become the Hero , I will gladly be the Villain for you. But if the World treat you as Evil, I'll fight both them, God, and the Devil to prove them wrong."
 
看看哈维在《黑暗骑士》中那句臭名昭著的话：“要么作为英雄而死，要么苟活到目睹自己变成恶棍。” 我完全同意这句话，当我看动画的时候，我第一时间就想起了这句话。但后来我想了想，又重新看了一遍，我认为这段话与动画所表达的相去甚远。

奥托的“爱”更多的是敬佩，而不是爱慕：钦佩卡莲的英雄主义，想一直支持她，做蝙蝠侠的罗宾。但当世界（旧天命和卡斯兰娜家族等）都不把她视为英雄时，奥托难以置信。500多年来，第一个帮助这个虚弱多病的男孩的人，竟然被视为罪犯、祸害、一个可以利用然后抛弃的东西；他的英雄被当作恶人来对待。他尽了最大的努力去救她，但就连她也拒绝了，因为这是卡斯兰娜令人生气但又令人钦佩的特点之一：他们的自我牺牲和无私。但和芽衣一样，奥托也不想让她独自承担一切，他非常希望能一起分担，但又一次被拒绝了。当她被……也许技术上说是他亲手杀死之后，我想那就是他崩溃的时候：对他的姐姐和侄子发动战争，进行实验和克隆，做只对他自己有利的事，并导致很多人死亡，其他人，甚至他自己。在过去的500年里，他的所作所为都是为了让本不该死去的英雄复活而做的准备。

就像罗宾为了蝙蝠侠成了小丑，就像斯内普需要杀死邓布利多来救他，哪怕看起来会像一个叛徒，甚至像芽衣必须成为律者来拯救她亲爱的朋友...
“如果你想成为英雄，我乐意为你做恶人。但如果世界把你当成恶魔，我将与上帝和魔鬼战斗，证明他们是错的。”