中国人如何看待国外的“中餐”？

Chickenmonster401
Chinese food outside China is made to taste diffeferent from western food but still appeal to the western mind. it is rarely the same thing as real Chinese food.

国外的中餐是为了与西餐口味有所区别，但仍迎合西方人的喜好。它很少与真正的中餐相同。

Zhou_Z_2025
The most important function of food is to be delicious. If the customers like it, that's fine. But I don't like to eat it.

食物最重要的功能是美味。只要顾客喜欢，那就没问题。但我不喜欢吃。

As long as it's not cultural theft or discrimination, it's acceptable.

只要不是文化剽窃或歧视，就可以接受。

xkmasada
What would be “cultural theft” to you?

对你而言，什么算是"文化剽窃"？

Melodic-Resort-5004
For example, there was an instance of a white British couple traveled to Vietnam and created a chain upon their return to UK. They trademarked the word “pho” in the UK back in the 2000s. Later, they proceeded to challenge and threatened smaller Vietnamese owned restaurants using “pho” in their names. There have been similar cases of this in the US as well and not just Vietnamese cuisine.

例如，曾有一对英国白人夫妇前往越南旅行，回国后创立了一家连锁店。他们在 2000 年代初期于英国注册了"pho"（越南河粉）一词的商标。随后，他们开始对在店名中使用"pho"的越南裔小餐馆发起挑战和威胁。美国也曾发生过类似案例，且不仅限于越南菜系。

Jkg2116
For those who are curious about this: https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/british-restaurant-drops-its-trademark-on-the-word-pho-after-social-media-backlash

对于那些对此感到好奇的人：https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/british-restaurant-drops-its-trademark-on-the-word-pho-after-social-media-backlash

k4kobe
As dumb as LeBron trying to trade mark taco Tuesday back when

就像勒布朗当年试图为“塔可星期二”注册商标一样愚蠢

oolongvanilla
Also David Chang (Korean American chef and founder of Momofuku restaurant group) trying to trademark "chili crunch."

还有大卫·张（韩裔美国厨师、Momofuku 餐饮集团创始人）试图为“辣椒脆”注册商标。

Zhou_Z_2025
The origin of certain dishes is often debated. While there's no dispute about the origin of Chinese or Western cuisines, it's more common in China and Korea. For example, the origins of paocai/kimchi, barbecue, and even some spices are subject to debate.

某些菜肴的起源常引发争议。虽然中餐或西餐的起源并无争议，但这类争论在中国和韩国更为常见。例如，泡菜、烧烤乃至某些香料的起源都存在不同说法。

CraftySpecialist3865
There is no debate about the origins of kimchi, though there might be about the origins of paocai (wtf is that?).

关于泡菜的起源并无争议，尽管可能有人对泡菜（那是什么鬼？）的起源存在疑问。

kakahuhu
I mean, these days you can find places selling Chinese food that is close to what you'd find in China in the west in most major cities. Even specific regional versions. You're talking about Chinese take aways? Food made my migrants trying to survive and adapting to what ingredients they had available and what customers would buy.

我的意思是，如今在西方大多数主要城市，你都能找到售卖接近中国本土风味的中餐的地方，甚至还有特定地区的版本。你指的是中餐外卖吗？那是移民为了生存，根据手头能获得的食材和顾客愿意购买的口味而调整制作的食物。

RichCommercial104
Nearly all Chinese food in the west is specific to Guangdong. The early Chinese migrants were almost exclusively from this region in China due to a bloody civil war in the south. This is slowly changing with new migrants from Sichuan, Dongbei, etc. Foreigners are being introduced to hot pot, peking duck, bbq skewers, Shaanxi burgers, etc. The chefs are usually from China so the food is authentic. Just ignore Panda Express.

西方几乎所有的中餐都源自广东菜系。由于南方曾发生惨烈的内战，早期中国移民几乎全部来自这一地区。随着四川、东北等地新移民的到来，这种情况正逐渐改变。外国人开始接触到火锅、北京烤鸭、烧烤串、陕西肉夹馍等美食。由于厨师通常来自中国，这些菜肴都保持了地道风味。至于熊猫快餐，忽略即可。

Antique-Ad1479
It seems that at least here in the us, Hunan was a huge influence. Hunan was a huge influence via tiawan-hawaii-america with orange chicken being based on Tangarine chicken. Sesame apparently having heavy ties to sweet and sour pork. And the final in the famous chicken trinity is General tsos was also based on hunan flavors. Taiwanese influence was also huge, and by extension fujian influence.

看来至少在美国这边，湘菜的影响力巨大。湘菜通过台湾（地区）-夏威夷-美国这条路径产生了深远影响，比如陈皮鸡演变成了橙皮鸡。芝麻味显然与咕咾肉有着紧密联系。而著名的"鸡肉三巨头"中最后一道左宗棠鸡，其风味同样源自湘菜。台湾（地区）菜的影响也不容小觑，连带闽菜也产生了重要影响。

RichCommercial104
Orange chicken is more like a fusion dish created in Hawaii. They tried to sell it in Hunan but it flopped. The locals found it way too sweet.

陈皮鸡更像是夏威夷创造的融合菜。他们曾尝试在湖南推广这道菜，但遭遇滑铁卢。当地人觉得它实在太甜了。

Hot-Frosting-5286
I have run into people on this site who insist these types of dishes (orange chicken, general tsos for example) are Chinese. I tried to correct them and say no, they are perfectly fine American-Chinese dishes but are not actually from China or eaten in China...... They started going into Internet debate mode so I dipped out of that pretty quick

我在这个网站上遇到过一些人，他们坚持认为这类菜肴（比如陈皮鸡、左宗棠鸡）是中国的。我试图纠正他们，说不是的，它们是地道的美式中餐，但实际上并非源自中国，在中国也不常见……他们开始进入网络辩论模式，所以我很快就退出了讨论。

UThrowaway0301
A lot of Hunanese food is absolutely covered in chillies, and I can't really think of any dishes in American Chinese food that are similar to that. The only thing I can think of flavourwise that's similar to American Chinese food is 红烧肉, and even that is quite different texturally.

很多湖南菜绝对是被辣椒覆盖的，我实在想不出美式中餐里有任何类似的菜肴。从口味上来说，唯一能让我联想到美式中餐的是红烧肉，但即便是这道菜，在口感上也大不相同。

Also, I think sweet and sour stuff is generally zhejiang.

另外，我觉得酸甜口味的菜肴通常属于浙江菜系。

Kenshiro79
In europe is mostly zhejiang food

在欧洲则以浙江菜系为主。

D05wtt
No, just no.

不，完全不是这样。

Quirky-Reveal-5972
Taiwan number one!

台湾（地区）第一！

DecisionOne9006
Ask them if orange chicken in america tastes the same as back home.

问问他们美国的陈皮鸡和家乡的味道是否一样。

Due_Capital_3507
Haha that's a Chinese American dish. I don't mind some spicy orange chicken

哈哈，那是美式中餐。我不介意来点辣味的陈皮鸡。

Boysencookie-1512
China doesn’t really have this exact dish, but there’s a similar one called guo bao rou.

中国并没有这道菜，但有一道类似的菜叫锅包肉。

DecisionOne9006
Thatsthejoke.jpg

这就是笑点所在.jpg

Stiles_Stiles
It's fried chicken with sweet sauce, what's new about that?

这不就是甜酱炸鸡吗，有什么新鲜的？

Billions13
Hot take but I think Chinese food in Vancouver is much better than anything I've had in China.

可能有点冒犯，但我认为温哥华的中餐比我在中国吃过的任何东西都要好。

kappakai
Vancouver is pretty damn good. It's all the HKers, but there's a decent mainland population too. I think their ingredients are really good too. The sushi there is excellent and cheap.

温哥华真是棒极了。虽然主要是香港（特区）人，但也有相当多的大陆人。我觉得他们的食材真的很不错。那里的寿司既美味又便宜。

Toronto also has really good Chinese.

多伦多也有非常棒的中餐。

PPTV-110
As long as the food is suitable for you, it is good, don't blindly pursue authentic food

只要食物适合你，就是好的，不要盲目追求正宗

Gransmithy
Vancouver has I think North America’s oldest Chinatown. It has a rich history of Taishanese and Cantonese residents. It is probably one of the starting places trying to make Chinese compatible with local tastes and a very long history. It makes sense it taste the best to you since you are from that area.

温哥华有我认为是北美最古老的唐人街。这里有着丰富的台山和广东居民历史。它可能是最早尝试将中餐与当地口味融合的地方之一，历史非常悠久。你觉得它味道最好是很合理的，因为你来自那个地区。

Edit: Victoria not Vancouver is older. Right San Francisco is the oldest.

编辑：更古老的是维多利亚，不是温哥华。对了，旧金山是最古老的。

fogfish-
San Francisco is the oldest Chinatown.

旧金山的唐人街才最古老。

Gransmithy
Right, I double checked and San Fran is older. I could have sworn I read on a placard while exploring the city that is the oldest Chinatown, but it has been years.

没错，我再次确认了，旧金山的唐人街确实更古老。我本可以发誓，在探索这座城市时，我曾在一块牌子上读到过它是最古老的唐人街，但那已经是多年前的事了。

poonknits
It's not just that there's a long history of immigration, it's that there's an ONGOING history of immigration. There are a TON of Chinese people living in Vancouver. Some neighbourhoods are 49% Chinese, making them the actual majority. It's not uncommon to see signs written only in Chinese. There are families that have been here for hundreds of years and families that just got off a plane last week. The majority used to be Cantonese speaking but I think Mandarin speakers have officially surpassed them in the census.

这不仅是因为移民历史源远流长，更因为移民潮仍在持续。温哥华居住着大量华人。有些社区华人比例高达 49%，实际上已成为多数群体。仅用中文书写的招牌并不罕见。这里有已定居数百年的家族，也有上周刚下飞机的家庭。过去多数人讲粤语，但根据人口普查数据，我认为普通话使用者已正式超越粤语群体。

D05wtt
My cousin and I were just talking about that yesterday. I was in Vancouver 2 years ago. Had dimsum twice. Some of the best dimsum I’ve had in North America…arguably better than Hong Kong like you said.

我和表姐昨天刚聊到这个话题。两年前我在温哥华时，两次体验了点心。那是我在北美尝过最棒的点心之一……可以说确实如你所说，甚至比香港（特区）的还要出色。

Vegansaurus_flex
Different, its just westernised. A bit more toned down esp spice wise And China food is so diverse; rarely the whole scope of it is demonstrated.

不同，只是西化了。口味上有所淡化，尤其是在辣度方面。而且中国菜系如此多样，很少能全面展现。

But i have pretty authentic ones, mostly because we recognise in a way 自己人

但我吃过相当地道的，主要是因为某种程度上我们认得出“自己人”。

zusite_emu
Toronto and Vancouver have the most authentic Chinese food outside China with close to 2 million Chinese living in the two cities.

多伦多和温哥华拥有中国以外最正宗的中餐，这两个城市居住着近 200 万华人。

itanpiuco2020
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskAChinese/s/Fm4kXvrL7X British Chinese food is totally different compared to Chinese food. Chinese food in the Philippines outside Chinatowns became Filipinoish like chopsuey and lumpiang sariwa which is totally different.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskAChinese/s/Fm4kXvrL7X 英式中餐与地道中餐截然不同。在菲律宾非唐人街地区的中餐已变得菲律宾化，比如炒杂碎和新鲜春卷，这些菜品已完全不同。

Capable-Listen3204
Garbage

垃圾

Gransmithy
lol. Fella not in Kansas no more. Overseas Chinese learn from each other what locals like and customize their food to what the local enjoys or consider as Chinese. American style is sweeter, more fried foods, and heavy on the oils. The Chinese food in China and in Chinatowns across the world are for the Chinese and includes various textures, flavors, saltiness, savoriness, and sourness that differs from your flavor profiles.

哈哈，这家伙可不在堪萨斯州了。海外华人会互相学习当地人的口味偏好，并根据本地人喜好或认知中的"中餐"来调整菜品。美式中餐更甜、油炸食品更多，且用油较重。而中国本土及全球唐人街的中餐是为华人准备的，包含了丰富多样的口感、风味、咸鲜与酸度，这些都与你们习惯的口味体系截然不同。

Yes, we enjoy trying Chinese food from different parts of the world. I have had American, Kosher, Halal, Mexican, French, Italian, English, Indian, Korean, Japanese, Malaysian, Australian, New Zealand, Indonesian-Chinese food to try the local flair. I love Mexican and Indonesian Chinese the best. The dishes are very fresh and colorful with unique flavors. Dislike India-Chinese and PF Changs the most since they are just far too heavy and overbearing on the sauces.

是的，我们乐于品尝世界各地的中餐风味。我曾尝试过美式、犹太洁食、清真、墨西哥、法国、意大利、英国、印度、韩国、日本、马来西亚、澳大利亚、新西兰以及印尼风格的中餐，以体验当地特色。我最喜爱墨西哥和印尼风味的中餐，这些菜肴新鲜多彩，风味独特。最不喜欢印度式中餐和"华馆"餐厅的菜品，因为它们的酱料过于浓重且味道霸道。

Gransmithy
As for the best Chinese food I have tried, it has to be between Tainan, Guohua street and Singapore’s hawkers centres edging out the win. There is so much variety that it is a tough choice.

至于我尝过的最佳中餐，台南国华街和新加坡的小贩中心可谓难分伯仲，最终后者以微弱优势胜出。选择实在太多，令人难以抉择。

xxskajaxx
my wife is Chinese and really likes crab Rangoons which are unique to American-Chinese food

我妻子是中国人，她非常喜欢蟹角——这道美式中餐的独特菜品。

Virtual_Bass9033
American food with Chinese characteristics

具有中国特色的美国食物

beamerpook
Nor Chinese but I'll chip in anyway.

我并非中国人，但还是想发表一下看法。

It seems like the chives take out were familiar with in the US is more "inspired" by Chinese food, but tailored more to American tastes and uses ingredients that are more common here.

我们在美国熟悉的中餐外卖似乎更多是受到中国菜的"启发"，但更迎合美国人的口味，并使用了这里更常见的食材。

Whereas "real" Chinese food are varied by region and uses ingredients that are common to that particular region.

而"正宗"的中国菜则因地区而异，使用的是该特定地区常见的食材。

Vietnamese food is like that, though it has not gained the massive popularity that Chinese food has

越南菜也是如此，尽管它还没有获得中餐那样的大众普及度

Phocasola
I would describe it as food with Chinese characteristics. I like it, but I also don't view it as Chinese food. It's only natural for food to evolve and change and accommodate new pallets and ingredients and in this process it becomes something new and distinctly different.

我会将其描述为具有中国特色的食物。我喜欢它，但也不将其视为中餐。食物自然会在演变中适应新的口味和食材，并在这个过程中变得新颖且截然不同。

El_Bastardo_Grande
I do not care, if you like it eat it, if you don't like it don't eat it, there is no need to have an opinion on everything.

我不在乎，喜欢就吃，不喜欢就别吃，没必要对每件事都发表意见。

Stiles_Stiles
I went to Groningen, Netherlands 10 years ago, and the "Chinese Food" there is horrible. Most of Chinese students learn how to cook themselves.

十年前我去过荷兰格罗宁根，那里的“中餐”简直难以下咽。大多数中国留学生都选择自己学做饭。

I live in Vancouver now. Chinese food is closer to what we expect back in China. Some Cantonese restaurants are even considered better because they have experienced chefs with traditional cooking skills. Toronto has more and better Non-Cantonese Chinese restaurants.

我现在住在温哥华。这里的中餐更接近我们记忆中中国的味道。有些粤菜馆甚至被认为比国内的还好，因为那里有经验丰富、掌握传统烹饪技艺的厨师。多伦多则有更多更好的非粤菜系中餐馆。

Side notes, I never understand Panda Express haters. It's not like 20 years ago when people used Panda Express to represent Chinese food. Fried items with sweet sauce is not that uncommon even in China.

顺便说一句，我从不理解那些讨厌熊猫快餐的人。现在不像二十年前，人们会用熊猫快餐来代表中餐。裹着甜酱的炸物在中国也并不少见。

DerGrafVonRudesheim
What they call "Chinese food" in the Netherlands is more like Dutchified Indonesian food. Very little connection to actual Chinese food unfortunatly.

在荷兰，他们所谓的“中餐”更像是荷兰化的印尼菜。不幸的是，与真正的中餐几乎没什么关系。

Parking-Young-3314
The American Chinese food is one cuisine to itself, continuously evolving. It is mostly Yue or Guangdong/Toisan/Hong Kong cuisine americanized. It is now mostly Hokchew people opening the shops and adding Min or Hokchew dishes on top of it.

美式中餐自成一体，不断演变。它主要是粤菜或广东/台山/香港（特区）菜系的美式化版本。如今，这些餐馆大多由福州人经营，并在原有基础上加入了闽菜或福州菜。

random_agency
that why I choose to live in NYC. 3 Chinatowns with authentic Chinese food.

这就是我选择住在纽约的原因。这里有三个唐人街，有正宗的中餐。

Sure you can go to a takeout in a less desirable neighborhood to get fried chicken and fried plantains, but I wouldn't call it authentic Chinese food.

当然，你可以去不那么理想的社区的外卖店买炸鸡和炸大蕉，但我不会称之为正宗的中餐。

Alexexy
I live in NYC in a neighborhood with a pretty large Latin population. Peruvian Chinese food and Chinese Latin food is pretty lit.

我住在纽约一个拉丁裔人口相当多的社区。秘鲁式中餐和中式拉丁美食相当棒。

choikyi
Food fusion is not a bad thing. Most food today is a result of combining other nation's food / ingredients , with the adaptation of local tastes. As long as a new creation of food can survive in a local market, then it is not that bad.

食物融合并非坏事。如今大多数食物都是融合其他国家食物/食材，并适应当地口味的结果。只要一种新创食物能在当地市场存活下来，那就不是坏事。

e.g.

例如

Today's Sichuan / Hunan has a fairly short history of using spicy chilies. Chile peppers were imported from South America. Also, potatoes, tomatoes, corns , broccoli , watermelons, and many other things were not native Chinese. They all went through some sort of fusion.

如今的四川/湖南使用辣椒的历史相当短暂。辣椒是从南美洲引进的。此外，土豆、番茄、玉米、西兰花、西瓜等许多食物也并非中国本土原产。它们都经历了某种程度的融合。

Similarly, Mexican has "pastor" because of Arabian food. Japanese has Ramen because of China. Vietnamese pho won't be a thing without France and China.

同样地，墨西哥的"pastor"烤肉源自阿拉伯美食。日本的拉面源于中国。没有法国和中国的影响，越南的河粉也不会诞生。

circlefather
As long as it tastes delicious, I personally don't care if it's "authentic" or not. Food is meant to be eaten.

只要味道好，我个人并不在意它是否"正宗"。食物本就是用来品尝的。

Independent-Summer12
They are different cuisines. Can be delicious, but basically not the same food. Most American Chinese food doesn’t really exist in China, some have been reverse imported to China lol. Also, there’s not really a singular cuisine that’s “Chinese food” within China. Other than maybe imperial banquet cooking? And maybe some home cooking dishes not often seen in restaurants like tomato eggs. There are at least 8 major cuisines within China and over 20 regional styles. So Irish Chinese, American Chinese, Cuban Chinese have evolved into their own thing over time. A Kinda like TexMex and CaliMex are their own thing that’s not the same as Mexican food. But that’s fairly common in immigrant food traditions. Vertical roast originated in the Middle East around Turkey/Lebennon became kebabs in the UK, Döners in Germany, and Al Pastors in Mexico. Same origin, three different foods.

它们属于不同的菜系。可能很美味，但基本上不是同一种食物。大多数美式中餐在中国并不真正存在，有些甚至被反向引进到中国了，哈哈。而且，在中国内部其实也没有单一的“中餐”菜系。也许除了宫廷宴席料理？还有一些家常菜，比如番茄炒蛋，在餐馆里不常见到。中国至少有八大菜系和二十多种地方风味。所以，爱尔兰中餐、美式中餐、古巴中餐随着时间的推移已经演变成了自己的特色。有点像德州墨西哥菜和加州墨西哥菜，它们自成一体，与墨西哥本土食物不同。但这在移民饮食传统中相当常见。垂直烤肉起源于中东的土耳其/黎巴嫩地区，在英国变成了烤肉串，在德国是土耳其烤肉卷，在墨西哥是牧师烤肉。同一起源，三种不同的食物。

Aleeeeexdude
Those are local kind of Chinese food--Also delicious, but not authentic, they can help me to remind what I used to eat in my hometown ofc

那些是当地化的中餐——也很美味，但不正宗，它们能帮我回忆起在家乡常吃的东西。

girlinhk
I crave some western Chinese food every now and again. It’s a sentimental treat.

我时不时会想吃一些西式中餐，这是一种怀旧的享受。

SuggestionPretty8132
“Ew. A true bastardization of such amazing food. Why would you ruin such a great thing Panda Express ”

“呃，这简直是对如此美味食物的亵渎。熊猫快餐，你为什么要毁掉这么棒的东西啊”

And

还有

“I guess they’ll do white rice right?”

“我猜他们应该能把白米饭做对吧？”

xolovaboox
It’s far too greasy and salty.

太油腻也太咸了。

And where is the good soup!?

还有，好喝的汤在哪里！？

D05wtt
Reading the comments…it’s clear there’s a lack of knowledge of Chinese food.

看了这些评论……很明显，大家对中国菜缺乏了解。

SyllabubDue9853
I've always been curious about Americanized Chinese food, to be honest. Back here, people find things like General Tso's chicken or fortune cookies kind of fascinating

说实话，我一直对美式中餐感到好奇。在这里，人们觉得左宗棠鸡或幸运饼干这类东西挺有意思的。

NumerousBed4716
Depends on which era...i remember most Chinese food abroad were canton based back in the 90s.... Some meat with stir-fried rice or noodles

这取决于哪个年代……我记得在 90 年代，国外的中国菜大多以粤菜为主……一些肉配上炒饭或炒面

When I went to China in the late 2000s... It was hard finding those type of food, the variety was mind boggling

当我在 2000 年代末去中国时……很难找到那种类型的食物，其多样性令人眼花缭乱

But lately going to US and UK, those varieties are also there, though a little different to China

但最近去美国和英国，那些种类也都有了，尽管与中国略有不同

The biggest difference I saw, especially in US, is the portion sizes for the meat... And the veggies varieties are limited

我注意到最大的差异，尤其是在美国，是肉类的分量……而且蔬菜种类有限

I guess it depends on how many Chinese ppl are in the area and where they're from

我想这取决于当地有多少中国人以及他们来自哪里

stupid_carrot
Need to also mention that South East Asia Chinese food is also quite different and is amazing.

还需要提到的是，东南亚的中餐也相当不同且令人惊艳。

DeathPixie
In the U.S., It's more Cantonese food. When I would fly from China to Hong Kong, it was like taking a break from Chinese food and getting to eat something delicious, and having access to the internet again.

在美国，更多的是粤菜。当我从中国飞往香港（特区）时，就像是暂时告别中餐，去品尝一些美味佳肴，并重新获得上网的机会。

Tomasulu
Ngl I kinda like America's broccoli beef in black bean sauce.

说实话我有点喜欢美国的中式黑豆酱西兰花牛肉。