国外讨论：你对于当代社会最痛恨的一点是什么？
What do you hate most about modern society?
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What do you hate most about modern society?
你对于当代社会最痛恨的一点是什么？
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How we, as a society, can be wholly aware of every propaganda technique that was used in news media and advertising for the last 100 years, and be aware of the damage that it can do. But if it happens on a social media site then we lean into it and act like it's some kind of brave stance to take.
我们作为一个社会，本来是完全清楚过去一百年来新闻媒体和广告业所使用的所有宣传手段，以及这些手段能造成的伤害的。但是如果这种事情发生在社交媒体上面，我们反倒会开始倾向支持这些宣传，搞得好像这是什么勇敢的事情一样。
I've said it again and again.
我已经说过了一遍又一遍了。
把网上的所有评论都当成愚人节笑话，对所有的重要观点究察来源。
Which is fine for the people that care.
这对于那些真的在乎的人们来说确实没问题。
但不幸的是，我们社会上好像有很大一部分人群是根本就不在乎的，并且特别乐意把这些无稽之谈扩散出去，只要这种东西要么能给自己带来好处，要么能损害对手。
Smartphones were a mistake, people are too dumb for the internet
手机就是最大的错误，在互联网面前人们还是太蠢了
I always get massive downvotes for this, but I miss the early internet where you needed some knowledge and money to access it. The level of discourse was way higher and it wasn't clogged with ads.
我总是会被一堆人点踩，但我真的很怀念早期互联网那种你需要一定的知识和金钱才能使用的时候。当时的讨论水平要比今天高太多了，并且也没有到处都是广告。
Popularity ruins everything. Once it gets popular, you have to remove all the sharp edges and cover up the wall sockets, otherwise it harms the simpletons.
人气会毁掉一切。只要一个东西火起来了，你就得把尖锐的棱角都移除，把墙上的插座盖上，要不然头脑简单的人就会受伤。
这就是现在我们眼前这片被阉割的公司地狱景象的来源。
You know what's annoying? The people here right NOW will act as if the only victims of propaganda techniques are Republicans. Because Democrats are definitely immune to it. And I will be downvoted for saying everyone is subject to propaganda.
你知道最烦人的是什么吗？这里的人哪怕现在也会装作一副只有共和党才会被政治宣传手法欺骗的样子，因为民主党绝对对这种东西免疫。我说所有人都会被政治宣传影响这种话会被人点踩的。
Online misinformation. 2001 video-game Metal Gear Solid 2 was exactly right in it's techno-punk take on future Internet and social media. We are spending enormous amounts of time, energy and resources to save a sea of worthless and incorrect information. This never-ending pile of untrue statements creates chaos within democracy, world politics, the larger scientific- and philosophical debate and much more.
线上的不实信息。2001年的电子游戏《合金装备2》中对未来因特网和互联网的技术朋克视角非常正确。我们花费了大量的时间，精力和资源来维护一片毫无价值也不正确的悉尼的海洋。这堆永无止息的不实信息垃圾场会给民主，世界政治，以及更大范围的科学、政治辩论等等方面带来混乱。
How little people actually know about history
人们对于历史简直是一无所知。
As a bit of a history nerd, 100%. People have no perspective outside of the last 100 years, but society has changed in such an fundamental way in the last ~200 years that the average person just cannot comprehend how insane our modern society is.
作为一个历史爱好者，你说的100%正确。人们除了过去一百年发生的事情之外根本不知道别的事情，但是社会在过去两百年发生的根本变化实在是太大了，普通人完全无法了解我们的当代社会到底有多么疯狂。
we are extremely disconnected from each other. It doesn't matter that we have technology to connect us, there is something missing when you cannot be face to face...or punched in the face for the shit we put each other through.
我们人与人之间完全没有连接。有没有互相联系的技术并不重要，只要你无法面对面交流，或者为了给彼此造成的麻烦而给对方一拳，就是会缺少一些东西……
The normalization of stupidity and selfishness.
愚蠢和自私行为的正常化。
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I blame the internet and social media for a lot of this. Society today is way too online. So many fake people everywhere
很多时候这种现象都是互联网和社交媒体导致的。今天的社会在线的成分太多了。到处都是虚假的人。
That we keep making the same stupid mistakes as historical society .
我们不断地重复历史上犯过的错误。
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No we've got it figured out, by remaining ignorant of the past, we'll be sure to not copy it. That's how the saying goes I think.
不，我们其实早就想明白了，只要保持对过去一无所知的状态，我们就肯定不会犯过去犯过的错误。我记得那句话是这么说的。
France: is known to behead every leader that goes too far
法国：都知道这个国家喜欢把疑似太极端的领导者的脑袋砍下来
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当前的韩国总统：试试看多极端算太极端
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everyone's on their phones all the time.
所有人都盯着自己的手机。
To add to this, everyone is available all the time. There’s this societal pressure now to do so as well.
补充一点，所有人在任何时间都可以联系。而且还有社会上的压力逼着你们保持在线的状态。
I'm not available all the time. I pretty much always have my phone on silent, and I might go hours without looking at it.
我不是什么时候都联系得上的。我基本上总是把手机调整为静音，可能几个小时我都不会看一眼。
Same. I resent my phone 99% of the time. Constant notifications, texts, calls. Enough with the bullshit. When I get home I put my phone where I put my keys and can hardly be bothered to look at it. I’ve been leaving the house without my phone more and more and it’s so satisfying.
我也一样。99%的时间我都根本不理我的手机。到处都是通知，短信，电话。我受够这种烂事了。在我回家之后，我就会把手机放到钥匙旁边，我根本看都懒得看。我已经越来越习惯出门不带手机了，实在是太舒服了。
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Social media's influence on everyone. Everyone wants "likes" and mass approval from complete strangers to achieve some sort of "validation" that has no bearing on what makes them a better person. It's all a mirage while our souls starve.
社交媒体对所有人的影响。每个人都想要被点赞，得到陌生人的赞许，从而获得一种认可感，但这其实跟让他们成为更好的人一点关系都没有。这只不过是一种幻象，我们的灵魂还是饿着肚子。
Also the way social media websites, especially Instagram, gives children and teenagers a very unrealistic look into the "perfect" lives of rich people. Which can then cause depression or just negative feelings in general because they don't have it themseves.
此外还有社交媒体网站，尤其是Instagram，会给孩子们和青年人呈现有钱人“完美”生活的非常不现实的一面。这会导致抑郁和负面的情绪，因为他们自己享受不到这种生活。
Working all the god damned time, I want to work less
一天到晚上tm逼班。我不想上班
Yeah, and even when we don't have work on the weekends, we still have to spend most of the weekends doing other things that we couldn't do on the workdays. So, it's like we barely have any time to relax at all.
没错，而且就算周末不用上班，我们还是得把时间花在工作日没能做的事情上面。所以，感觉好像我们根本就没有时间放松。
"Don't worry. We are automating factories so that people don't have to work as much". They totally weren't thinking about their bottom line...
“别担心，我们正在将工厂自动化，这样人们就不用工作那么多了。”他们完全就没有想过自己的底线……
How nobody gives a single fuck about anybody around them.
根本没人在乎身边的人们。
Individualism is an absolute cancer on modern society, it's infected our media and souls and I am convinced if anything could end the world, it's that.
个人主义是当代社会的一种癌症，它已经侵入了我们的媒体和灵魂，我相信如果有什么东西能让世界终结的话，那就是个人主义。
The demonization of education and expertise.
教育和专业知识的妖魔化。
How much we have to work to provide basic necessities. I’m tired.
我们要多么拼命地工作才能满足基本的生存需要。我累了。
Suprised I had to scroll so much for this.In my opinion, cost of living should considered the worst thing about modern society. From this stems so many other blights. It used to be that if you worked hard even as a damn milkman, you could have a slice of the "dream". Now every has gotta have a bunch of side hustles or co-habitate with someone who does.
很惊讶我要往下滑这么久才能看见这个。在我看来，生活成本才是当代社会最糟糕的一面。高昂的生活成本带来了很多其他严重的问题。以前你哪怕当个送奶工，努力工作也能分到一点“梦想”。现在所有人都得接一堆别的工作或者和别人一起住。
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No sense of community anymore. Seems like everyone is really rude to those they don’t know
毫无社区感。好像所有人都喜欢对陌生人无礼。
The fact that the world has progressed to the point that everyone's basic needs could easily be met, yet hundreds of thousands of people die from starvation and easily preventable diseases every year.
世界已经发展到了每个人的基本需求都能很容易地得到满足，然而还有成千上万的人会每年因为饥饿和非常容易就能预防的疾病而死亡。
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On the grand scheme, the fact that people still can’t get along. If everyone (mainly governments) could stop fighting over land and resources and work together, virtually all problems would be fixed. How many wars have to happen before we learn our lesson?
宏观来看，人们仍然无法好好相处这一事实。如果每个人（主要是政府）可以停止位土地和资源争夺，共同努力，那么基本上所有问题都会得到解决。我们还要经历多少战争才能得到教训？
从微观的个人生活角度来看，社交过程中的“正常”究竟是什么。我不喜欢大家觉得穿上好看的衣服带上帽子开一场茶会或者舞会是什么不正常的事情。如果社会能够回到偶尔开舞会的时候我会很开心。
Everybody feels comfortable to have an opinion about every fucking thing.
所有人都觉得对他妈每件事情都有自己的意见没有任何问题。
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This is about America.
这是关于美国的一件事。
有一次我和我老婆在国外旅游，我从路边的一个人那里买了一小盒草莓。
我咬了一口，才知道我这辈子都没吃过好草莓。味道鲜明，丰富，复杂，真的是我这辈子吃过的最好吃的东西。
然后我回到了美国。吃到了我见过的最大，最红，最闪亮的草莓。你能买到好多好多的草莓，以至于还没吃完就烂了。
而且这些草莓一点味道都没有。尝起来像绿色的水。
that success is still measured by money. i just think there are so many more important things in life.
金钱仍然是成功的标准。我觉得生活中重要的事情还是太多了。
这是对于当代生活的完美诠释。
There are other things that are important, but I'd argue that money is the most important thing for good reason. It's potential energy, convertible to almost anything. It's a ticket to happiness, health, freedom, and peace of mind. And furthermore, once you have it, people can't really take it away. It erases mistakes, opens doors. True, you can't buy love, but it's certainly easier to find love with money than without it.
确实还有很多其他事情也很重要，但是我觉得金钱是最重要的东西还是有它的理由的。它几乎可以换成任何其他东西。它是通向幸福，健康，自由和心灵安宁的机票。而且只要你拥有它，别人几乎没法把它从你手里挪走。它能修复错误，打开大门。当然了，你买不来爱，但有钱比没钱更能找到真爱。
I say that money can’t necessarily buy happiness, but a lack of it often brings misery.
我想说金钱不一定买得来幸福，但是缺乏金钱通常会带来痛苦。
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