“军队需要更多的人”：以色列将强迫极端正统的犹太人服役，因为世俗人士的耐心耗尽了
‘The army needs more people’: Israel will force Ultra-Orthodox Jews to serve as patience among seculars runs out
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以色列的犹太正统派社区通常免除强制性兵役。多年来，政府试图改变这一状况。这些尝试在很大程度上失败，部分原因是因为国家未能通过一项规定他们服役的法律。
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They have no intention of serving in the IDF, and the patience of seculars is about to run out
他们并不打算在以色列国防军服役，世俗人士的耐心即将耗尽
The Ultra-Orthodox community of Israel is generally exempt from compulsory military service. Over the years, the state has tried to change this. These attempts have largely failed, in part because the country failed to pass a law that would regulate their service.
以色列的犹太正统派社区通常免除强制性兵役。多年来，政府试图改变这一状况。这些尝试在很大程度上失败，部分原因是因为国家未能通过一项规定他们服役的法律。
以色列的犹太正统派社区通常免除强制性兵役。多年来，政府试图改变这一状况。这些尝试在很大程度上失败，部分原因是因为国家未能通过一项规定他们服役的法律。
Yanki Farber, a Haredi journalist from the city of Bnei Brak, central Israel, is not a typical representative of the Ultra-Orthodox community, which currently stands at 1.25 million people, or roughly 12.5% of the population.
以色列中部城市贝内·贝拉克的哈雷迪记者扬基·法伯（Yanki Farber）并不是哈雷迪社区的典型代表。目前，以色列的哈雷迪社区约有125万人，占总人口的大约12.5%。
以色列中部城市贝内·贝拉克的哈雷迪记者扬基·法伯（Yanki Farber）并不是哈雷迪社区的典型代表。目前，以色列的哈雷迪社区约有125万人，占总人口的大约12.5%。
When he was 18, Farber enrolled into the IDF, and after his release around three years later, he has on occasion been called up to the reserves. When the events of October 7, 2023 took place – with Hamas militants launching a deadly attack on southern Israeli communities – he put on his military uniform again and went to serve.
Farber在18岁时入伍到以色列国防军（IDF），大约三年后退伍，之后他偶尔会被召唤入预备役。当2023年10月7日发生哈马斯激进分子对以色列南部社区发动致命袭击事件时，他再次穿上军装并前去服役。
Farber在18岁时入伍到以色列国防军（IDF），大约三年后退伍，之后他偶尔会被召唤入预备役。当2023年10月7日发生哈马斯激进分子对以色列南部社区发动致命袭击事件时，他再次穿上军装并前去服役。
But Farber is an exception, not the rule. Historically, Ultra-Orthodox Jews, who were a minority when the State of Israel was established in 1948, received exemptions from military service. Back then, it was agreed that they would serve the state by praying, even though some did enroll in the IDF, especially in times of war and in cities that were attacked by Arab armies.
但Farber是个例外，而不是规律。历史上，1948年以色列建国时，犹太正统派犹太人只占少数，因此获得了免除兵役的特权。当时，他们同意通过祈祷来为国家服务，尽管一些人确实参加了以色列国防军，特别是在战争时期和被阿拉伯军队攻击的城市。
但Farber是个例外，而不是规律。历史上，1948年以色列建国时，犹太正统派犹太人只占少数，因此获得了免除兵役的特权。当时，他们同意通过祈祷来为国家服务，尽管一些人确实参加了以色列国防军，特别是在战争时期和被阿拉伯军队攻击的城市。
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In the 1990s, when their population started growing, Israel tried to encourage them to serve, but despite their efforts, the IDF only managed to recruit 31 individuals in 1999.
“我不想成为这场病态游戏中的棋子”：以色列反犹太复国主义边缘群体正在采取行动。20世纪90年代，当他们的人口开始增长时，以色列试图鼓励他们服役，但尽管他们的努力，以色列国防军在1999年仅招募了31名个人。
Read more ‘I don’t want to be a pawn in this sick game’: Israel’s anti-Zionist fringe is taking a stand
In the 1990s, when their population started growing, Israel tried to encourage them to serve, but despite their efforts, the IDF only managed to recruit 31 individuals in 1999.
“我不想成为这场病态游戏中的棋子”：以色列反犹太复国主义边缘群体正在采取行动。20世纪90年代，当他们的人口开始增长时，以色列试图鼓励他们服役，但尽管他们的努力，以色列国防军在1999年仅招募了31名个人。
Over the years, the situation has significantly improved. In 2016, the total stood at 2,850. Recently, the military announced that it has around 6,000 Haredi soldiers in its ranks. The events of October 7 have also given the numbers a boost, though this is still just a drop in the ocean.
多年来，情况已经显着改善。2016年，总数达到了2,850人。最近，军方宣布其队伍中有大约6,000名哈雷迪士兵。10月7日的事件也提高了这个数字，尽管这仍然只是九牛一毛。
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多年来，情况已经显着改善。2016年，总数达到了2,850人。最近，军方宣布其队伍中有大约6,000名哈雷迪士兵。10月7日的事件也提高了这个数字，尽管这仍然只是九牛一毛。
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some jewish people CLEARLY recognize a war crime in action when they see it, i was under orders is something they understand does not exonerate a war crime, and their is NO STATUTE of limitations on war crimes.
一些犹太人在看到战争罪行时就清楚地认识到这是战争罪行，他们明白这是在命令下进行的，这并不能免除战争罪行，而且他们对战争罪行没有诉讼时效。
We already know that Hamas just like they have supported ISIS and Taliban that have played the boogeymen, so they think they are fighting against terrorism when in truth they kill the inoncent people instead and not the supported terrorist tells you that they still think most of us are fools to keep falling for their tricks and propagandized deception around the world.
我们已经知道，哈马斯就像他们支持ISIS和塔利班一样，扮演了邪恶的角色，所以他们认为他们是在打击恐怖主义，而实际上他们杀害的是无辜的人民，而不是被支持的恐怖分子告诉你，他们仍然认为我们大多数人都是傻瓜，继续相信他们的把戏，在世界各地宣传欺骗。
America is the Empire of Lies and you can't reason or communicate with pathological liars in Washington and a Blind and ignorant people either. NATO is a worthless institution when there is No Honor Amounts' Thieves and Murderer's!
美国是谎言帝国，你无法与华盛顿的病态骗子和盲目无知的人进行推理或交流。如果没有盗贼和杀人犯的荣誉，北约就是一个毫无价值的机构!
Israelis using religous nonsense as a pretext for indiscriminate killing and to grab and steal and then deny it all can't be stopped by reasoning, condemning or sanctioning.
以色列人以宗教胡说八道为借口，不分青红皂白地杀人，抢夺和偷窃，然后否认这一切，不能通过推理、谴责或制裁来阻止。
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Yes, Jews are not the same as zionists. Jewish people create no problems, it are the zionists who create problems and then they put the blame on the jewish people. And that is how hate against jewish people is created.
是的，犹太人和犹太复国主义者是不一样的。犹太人不会制造问题，是犹太复国主义者制造了问题，然后他们把责任推给犹太人。这就是对犹太人的仇恨是如何产生的。
Skinny wimps need to serve in the military, just so they can have some self respect among their families. Nobody wants a dad who was a coward. They want a dad who shoved the grenade down the enemy's throat and THEN pulled the pin on the way out.
瘦弱的软蛋需要在军队服役，这样他们才能在家人中获得一些自尊。没有人想要一个懦夫做爸爸。他们想要一个把手榴弹塞进敌人喉咙里然后在离开时才拉栓的父亲。
The greatest challenges facing the millennial generation is Artificial intelligence ,post humanism and the latest developments of liberal ideology that became a kind of global paradigm
千禧一代面临的最大挑战是人工智能、后人类主义以及成为一种全球范式的自由主义意识形态的最新发展。
To all of you out there who think the Jews own the press .I've NEWS for you wacko's they are public corporations meaning anyone who owns stock .
对于那些认为犹太人拥有媒体的人，我要告诉你们这些疯子，他们是上市公司，也就是说任何拥有股票的人。
Many of them are hiding like rats undergrounds tunnels they dugs in the City near you! Brooklyn NY in particular.
他们中的许多人像老鼠一样躲藏在地下隧道中，这些隧道是他们在你附近的城市挖掘的！特别是在纽约布鲁克林。
Like true Jews- why should you work as teacher when you can make 5x more by killing Palestinians???? For those orthodox Jew sit would be best if they move in UK or the USA...That way they will distance themselves from those genocidal Jewish population.
像真正的犹太人一样-为什么你们要当老师，当你们可以通过杀害巴勒斯坦人赚取5倍的收入？？？对于那些正统犹太人来说，最好搬到英国或美国去...这样他们就能远离那些种族灭绝的犹太人口了。
It is not up to men whether their nation thrives or dies. For a nation supposedly closest to God, it speaks as if it knows not its God "These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me".
国家的兴衰并不由人决定。对于一个据称最接近上帝的国家来说，它的言论却好像不了解自己的上帝，“这些人用嘴唇尊敬我，但他们的心却远离我”。
If you cannot vote, you cannot easily presume to sin against the GODs.
如果你不能投票，你就不能轻易地对神犯罪。
Zionist socioeconomic and geo-political serreptitious jihad was able to and then get away with demarginalizing the Christians in E & W Europe & Americas. I do not think they will have the same results with Islam no matter how many conscxts the procure. Yakob's in a Heap of Trouble.
犹太复国主义者的社会经济和地缘政治秘密圣战能够使东西部欧洲和美洲的基督徒去边缘化，然后逃脱惩罚。我不认为他们会在伊斯兰教取得同样的结果，不管他们招募了多少义务兵。雅各布有大麻烦了。
They are against the Zionists and side with the Palestinians. They tell Zionists that they aren't even Jews so no wonder they want them to be in the military so they will be the cannon fodder.
他们反对犹太复国主义者，站在巴勒斯坦人一边。他们告诉犹太复国主义者，他们甚至不是犹太人，所以难怪他们想让他们参军，这样他们就会成为炮灰。
I'm sure Hamas and Hezbollah will enjoy slaughtering these jews just like the regular ones.
我相信哈马斯和真主党会喜欢屠杀这些犹太人，就像屠杀普通犹太人一样。
Looking at these guys, then personally I have every confidence that when they are given a decent haircut and a shave, put into a killers uniform and fed a few bacon sandwiches for breakfast that they'll do the Polish war criminal Bibi Netanyahu very proud!
看看这些家伙，我个人非常有信心，当他们剪个像样的发型，刮个胡子，穿上杀手制服，早餐吃几个培根三明治时，他们会让波兰战犯比比·内塔尼亚胡非常自豪!
So basically insulate themselves from everything not exactly as they believe and remain completely ignorant and blinded by the ignorance because actually interacting with "the other" might make them realise we are all humans and they might question the lies they were raised on.
Yeah, sounds like a lot of commenters around here as well.
所以基本上他们与不符合他们信仰的一切隔离开来，完全无知且被无知所蒙蔽，因为与“他者”实际互动可能会让他们意识到我们都是人类，他们可能会质疑他们所接受的谎言。 是的，听起来很像这里的许多评论者。
I wonder will this mean the Ultra-Orthodox community will flee to Argentina and try turn Argentina into the so called greater Israel and Palestine to be totally liberated from the zionist terrorists.
我想知道这是否意味着极端正统派社区会逃到阿根廷，并试图把阿根廷变成所谓的大以色列和巴勒斯坦，以便从犹太复国主义恐怖分子手中完全解放出来。
Israeli leaders should be careful about who they force into the military or threaten. They would be wise to remember, the last person (Hasan Bitmez) who publicly threatened the Children of Abraham "You will not escape the wrath of Allah", the second he uttered those words, was killed in the Turkey Parliament. Sorry, suffered from a heart attack, and died.
以色列领导人应该谨慎对待他们强迫入伍或威胁的人。他们应该记住，上一个公开威胁亚伯拉罕的子孙的人（Hasan Bitmez）“你们逃不过真主的愤怒”，他一说出这些话，就在土耳其议会被杀死。抱歉，他是因心脏病发作而死亡。
If this is how far Israel needs to push them, or to conscxt whoever can hold a gun, in a war with a resistance group of 40,000 fighters, then imagine what else this small Israel Offensive Force (IOF) needs if faced a real state with a real army!
如果这就是以色列在一场有4万名战士的抵抗组织的战争中需要推动他们的程度，或者征召任何能拿枪的人，那么想象一下，如果面对一个拥有真正军队的真正国家，这支小规模的以色列进攻部队(IOF)还需要什么!
Israel is falling apart from inside... Bibi is truly a fascist... But then again judaism it should be said is a religion.. The sad part in Israel and in the West and other countries is that zionist extremist neocons use cynically to justify their own interests and justify their crimes against Palestinians and others. Zionist Neocons are the BIGGEST anti semites in the world not just when it comes to Arabs but also toward orthodox Jews which they treat badly by the way, the only exception being the Chabad extremists which back Bibi.
以色列正从内部分崩离析……内塔尼亚真是个法西斯…但话说回来，犹太教应该说是一种宗教…可悲的是，在以色列、西方和其他国家，犹太复国主义极端主义新保守主义者愤世嫉俗地为自己的利益辩护，并为他们对巴勒斯坦人和其他人犯下的罪行辩护。犹太复国主义新保守主义者是世界上最大的反犹分子，不仅是在阿拉伯人身上，而且在对待正统犹太人时也是如此，顺便说一下，他们对正统犹太人很不好，唯一的例外是支持比比的查巴德极端分子。
If these guys could be recruited into the IDF they could be deployed by Netanyahoo to spit on the Christian pilgrims along the old Via Delorosa.
如果这些人能被招进以色列国防军，内塔尼亚胡就会把他们派往德洛罗萨大街上的基督教朝圣者。
The truth is starting to come out, Netanyahu reports that only a few soldiers get killed in the war. It is far worse then he says about Gaza and never says a word about northern Israeli loses. If it is going so well for Netanyahu why does he want a draft?
真相开始浮出水面，内塔尼亚胡报道只有少数士兵在战争中丧生。这比他所说的加沙要糟糕得多，他对以色列北部的损失只字未提。如果内塔尼亚胡进展顺利，他为什么还要起草草案呢?
So Israel will force Ultra-Orthodox Jews to be the ukrainians of the Middle East, fighting to the last for wall street interests.
因此，以色列将迫使极端正统派犹太人成为中东的乌克兰人，为华尔街的利益奋战到底。
Netanyahu's thug regime will not release the true number of casualties suffered in their war on Gaza and the conflict with Hezbollah, but the fact is they are losing too many and are desperate for more bodies to throw into the meat grinder.
内塔尼亚胡的暴徒政权不会公布在他们对加沙的战争和与真主党的冲突中所遭受的真实伤亡数字，但事实是他们损失过多，并且迫切需要更多的人投入战场。
They (Jews) will not fight you (Believers) in a body except in fortified sites, or from behind walls. Their enmity among themselves is strong. You think they are united, but divided are their hearts. That is because these people are devoid of sense.
他们不会与你们一齐作战，除非在坚固的地方，或在城墙后面。他们之间的仇恨很深。你以为他们是团结的，但他们的心是分裂的。那是因为这些人缺乏理智。
they feel they are far above the animals who murder for israel. murdering on behalf of israel is for the trash of Israeli society and its trash supporters
他们觉得自己远高于那些为以色列杀人的畜生。代表以色列谋杀是为了以色列社会的垃圾和它的垃圾支持者
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You need to fight like Gideon and his 300 men. But to do that you have to be on God's side.
你要像吉迪恩和他的三百人一样战斗。但要做到这一点，你必须站在上帝一边。
After you have forced the small group of ultra-orthodox Jews to enlist, there will be nobody else left. Will you then force the Americans Jews to enlist in IDF?
在你迫使一小群极端正统的犹太人参军之后，就不会再有其他人了。你会强迫美国犹太人加入以色列国防军吗?
Lol .. these ortho jews are worse than hamas. They kill israel from within, so all uou anti semites.. they are your friends.
哈哈。这些正统犹太人比哈马斯还坏。他们从内部杀死以色列，所以你们都是反犹太主义者…他们是你的朋友。
All those leeches are leaving and coming to Cyprus now and try to use the island population for their wars via the corrupt Cyprus National Guard...
所有这些水蛭现在都离开并来到塞浦路斯，并试图通过腐败的塞浦路斯国民警卫队利用岛上的人口进行战争…
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Haredis all making money like mad , controlling the US politial sytstem , I will go and 'wail at the wall' if they pay me enough no problem. I just wont waar that stupid black hat and have dreadlocks .
哈雷迪犹太人疯狂地赚钱，控制着美国的政治体系，如果他们给我足够的钱，我就会去“哭墙”（指耶路撒冷的西墙，犹太人的祈祷地点）没问题。我只是不想戴那顶愚蠢的黑帽子和留脏辫子。
When the Israelis are dipping into the Halloween crowd for soldiers, you can assume they are losing the fight against Hamas.
当以色列人沉浸在万圣节的人群中寻找士兵时，你可以认为他们正在输掉与哈马斯的战斗。
Even Israeli Palestinians do their volunteering in hospitals , councils, even some in IDF non combat roles. Why shouldn't the Heredi?
即使是以色列的巴勒斯坦人也在医院、委员会甚至一些非战斗性的以色列国防军部队担任志愿者工作。哈雷迪犹太人为什么不能?
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Why would the IOF need more troops? Is the casualty rate a LOT higher than Israel has been saying? They had 300,000 reservists called up, wasn't it enough? Have the Gazans proved that the IOF is a far more pathetic army than the propaganda states? It looks like the Gazans are far better at urban/guerilla warfare than the Israelis.
为什么以色列国防军需要更多的部队？伤亡率是不是比以色列宣称的要高得多？他们召集了30万名预备役军人，这不足以吗？难道加沙人证明了以色列国防军比宣传所说的更加悲惨吗？看起来加沙人在城市/游击战方面比以色列人要强得多。
If you try to turn people into what they despise to be, then they might work against you, especially with guns in their hands!
如果你试图把人们变成他们所鄙视的样子，那么他们可能会反对你，尤其是在他们手里拿着枪的时候!
Maybe the Zionists may want to try avoid running the Orthodox Jews over and maybe stop trying to kill them also!
也许犹太复国主义者可能想要避免冲撞正统派犹太人，也许也不想再试图杀死他们!
Those clowns are twice deluded : firstly they have racially nothing to do with the original Israel, of the 12 sons of Jacob whose name was changed to “Israel” after he had a fight of faith with God. They are descendants of Khazars who once had a kingdom between the Black and Caspian seas. Khazars adopted Talmudic Judaism as their religion of their kingdom. After destruction of Khazaria by Russian princess the fake “Jews” crawled all over western Russia, Ukraine and eastern Poland. Thus secondly they follow the OT Judaism , which was extinguished by birth, life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The Almighty Himself has finished with the religious system of the OT. The origional Israel was judged as Jesus had foretold, the temple and the city destroyed.
这些小丑两次受骗：首先，他们与雅各布的12个儿子（雅各布与上帝争战信仰后，他的名字改为“以色列”）的原始以色列人族群无种族联系。他们是可萨人的后裔，曾经在黑海和里海之间有一个王国。可萨人将塔木德犹太教作为他们王国的宗教。在俄罗斯公主摧毁可萨利亚后，这些伪“犹太人”爬遍了俄罗斯西部、乌克兰和东波兰。因此，第二，他们追随的是《旧约》犹太教，这已经因耶稣基督的诞生、生活、死亡和复活而终结。全能的上帝已经完成了《旧约》的宗教体系。原始的以色列被判决了，正如耶稣所预言的，圣殿和城市被毁.
People capable of thinking for themselves, regardless of the nation in which they live, will resist being sent into military service at the behest of mere politicians. They will weigh circumstances, and decide accordingly.
无论生活在哪个国家，有能力独立思考的人都会抵制被仅仅是政客命令参加军队服役。他们会权衡情况，然后据此做出决定。
许多本应更清楚的人似乎相信，当选的过程赋予了政客智慧。真正的评判基础只能是政客在政治之前的教育质量和成就。对于“职业政客”来说，可靠信息太少，无法得出除了他们可能是食槽者之外的其他结论。