网友讨论：日本经济给人的警示
How Japan’s economy has become a cautionary tale
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网友：1971年诺贝尔经济学奖得主西蒙·库兹涅茨：这个世界上有四类国家——发达国家，欠发达国家，日本和阿根廷。
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"There are four types of countries in the world—developed, undeveloped, Japan and Argentina." - Simon Kuznets, Nobel prize winner in economics in 1971.
1971年诺贝尔经济学奖得主西蒙·库兹涅茨：这个世界上有四类国家——发达国家，欠发达国家，日本和阿根廷。
the plaza accord is the reason and the USA caused this to happen.
原因是《广场协议》，而这一切是美国造成的
Wow, Japan is now #4. But in a few years (in 2026-2030) India is expected to also surpass Japan's economy. That's surprising. After that happens, Japan will most likely remain as #5 largest economy for the foreseeable future, because the UK's economy has no chance of beating the Japanese.
日本现在是世界第四大经济体。但是令人惊讶的是，再过几年（2026-2030），预计印度的经济也将会超过日本。在此之后，日本在可预见的未来很有可能会一直是世界第五大经济体，因为英国的经济不可能击败日本
what's surprising about this? that a country of almost 1.5 billion people will finally exceed 100 million
印度有几乎15亿的人口，gdp最终超过人口一亿的日本有什么好惊讶的？
It’s hardly surprising. India has more than 11 times the population of Japan and has been growing rapidly due to still being in the catch-up phase. Unfortunately, that also means that the average Indian will still be way poorer than the average Japanese.
这没有什么好惊讶的。印度的人口是日本的11倍，由于依然处于追赶阶段，印度的经济一直在快速的增长。遗憾的是，这也意味着普通印度人将比普通日本人穷的多
Everything have up and down. We can't expect it keep going upward momentum.
有盛必有衰。我们不能指望日本经济永远处于上升势头。
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Why is nikkei at an all time high?
那么为什么日经指数创历史新高呢
high quality of living in japan is not changes from 3 decades.
as a japanese i'm happy and satisfied from what goverment
done to have an easy way of living.
30年来日本人依然过着高质量的生活
作为一个日本人，我为日本政府为我们能够过上轻松的生活所做的一切感到非常高兴和满意。
@missplainjane3905 Bot pretend as Japanese we know Japan high suicide rate, young people barely survive.
不要假装是日本人，我们都知道日本的自杀率很高，年轻人几乎无法生存。
@missplainjane3905 many Japanese complain of high cost of living and it's big reason why decline of Japanese tourist overseas. Obviously most are not happy with current situation except for the super rich. I went there for tour and tell them how cheap is their products( anime stuffs ) due to depreciation of yen. They give me a gloomy look.
很多日本人抱怨生活成本高，这也是为什么海外日本游客数量减少的重要原因，显然除了超级富豪以外，大部分人对于现状并不满意。我去日本旅游的时候，和他们说由于日元贬值，他们的产品非常的便宜。听完之后，他们的表情显得非常沮丧。
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@zenden9 Japan doesn't have a high suicide rate though. They have a lower suicide rate than the U.S., Belgium, Slovenia or Finland.
You are confusing South Korea.
但日本的自杀率并不高。他们的自杀率低于美国，比利时，斯洛文尼亚，和芬兰。
你是把日本和韩国给搞混了
@zenden9 If we are talking about suicide rates, Japan's suicide rate has declined significantly over the past 20 years, which is one indication that people's lives have improved.
说到日本的自杀率，我们会发现日本的自杀率在过去20年已经显著降低。这表明日本人的生活得到了改善。
The worst cause of weakened yen nowadays is that Japan bank stubbornly keeping interest rates on very low for many years while being risen up in other countries in the world.
This result is very natural and not surprising issue at all.
目前日元走弱的最大原因是因为日本银行这么多年来一直固执的将利率维持在极低的水平，而与此同时世界上的其他国家的利率却在上升
因此这个结果是很自然的事情，并不令人感到惊讶
Korea took away a lot of the industries that were once dominated by Japan, such as electronics.
I still can’t believe Japan let Korea overtake them. I still much prefer Japanese products over Korean.
日本曾经主导的产业，很多都被韩国给夺走了，比如电子产品
我依然无法相信日本竟然让韩国超过了自己。相比韩国产品，我依然更加喜欢日本产品。
It's not something bad. Having a larger GDP does not mean your country is better.
这不是什么坏事。拥有更加庞大的gdp并不意味着你的国家就更好。
Japan's stock market just blew past their 1989 peak. LOL Japan's recession is over.
日本的股市刚刚突破了1989年以来的最高值。哈哈，日本的衰退已经结束了。
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Nikkei stock market just hit all time high today. Ironically, Japan is officially fell into economic recession.
日经股市今天创下历史新高。具有讽刺意味的是，日本正式陷入经济衰退。
Japanese electronics and automobiles market are slowly being taken by South korea and China.
日本的电子产品和汽车市场正慢慢被韩国和中国占领。
Since Japan followed the US in curbing Chinese trade and technology... Japan's economy has clearly deteriorated
自从日本追随美国遏制中国的贸易和技术以来，日本经济显著恶化
As has China's and the rest of the world's. Global export demand has decreased, which means all traditional exporters are seeing issues - China, Japan, Germany, UK etc. The US is doing fine though.
中国和世界其他国家的经济也在恶化。全球出口需求下降意味着所有的传统出口国都面临着问题——中国，日本，德国和英国等。但是美国表现的很不错
Japan has made a lot of investments in India and none of those investments have any profits but only losses.
日本在印度进行了大量 投资，但是这些投资全部亏损，没有任何盈利。
The Japanese stock market has started climbing recently until it has reached it's highest point in more than 30 years.
日本股市最近开始攀升，达到了30多年来的最高点。
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China reported a GDP growth of 5.2% for 2023.
Japanese economists estimated China gdp last year was between -2% and -3.2%.
据报道，中国2023年的gdp增速为5.2%
而根据日本经济学家的估计，中国去年gdp增速在-3.2%到-2%之间
like... which japanese economists? give some names? or you are the economist?
你说的到底是哪个日本经济学家？能提供具体的名字吗？还是说这个所谓的经济学家就是你自己本人？
you think the people working in the IMF are just plain dumb?
你觉得在国际货币基金组织里面工作的那些人都是白痴吗？
China is in similar situation as Japan in 1980's with one difference:
Japanese was rich then, but the Chinese are still poor.
中国的处境和上世纪80年代的日本很像，但有一点不同：
当时的日本是一个富裕的国家，而中国现在依然贫穷
No, you are wrong. China internal consumption is much larger than Japan. China internal consumption accounts to over 50% of the GDP in 2022. Japan internal consumption in 2023 is about 21%.
不，你错了，中国国内消费能力远远超过了日本。2022年，中国国内消费占gdp的比重超过了50%，而2023年日本的这一比重大约为21%
Look at it from the bright side, it's cheaper to visit japan right now.
从好的方面看，现在去日本旅游更加便宜了
Japan's economy smaller than Germany's? I find that very difficult to believe...
日本经济规律小于德国？我觉得这真的让人难以置信
Compare GDP per capita between Japan and China. Japan's is still four times higher, despite stagnating for 3 decades.
对比中日两国的人均gdp。你会发现尽管停滞了30年，但是日本的人均gdp依然是中国的四倍。
In 2023, Japan's per capita GDP is 33,900, while China's 12,700. So Japan's GDP per capita is only 2.67 times that of China.
2023年，日本人均GDP为3.39万美元，而中国是1.27万美元。所以日本的人均GDP只有中国的2.67倍。
Japan is doing better than China at the moment
现在的日本表现的比中国好
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Shrinking auto industry, shrinking ship manufacturing industry, shrinking food export, ...doing better in which field exactly?
日本汽车产业萎缩，造船业萎缩，食品出口行业萎缩，所以日本到底哪个领域表现得比中国好了？
lool... just no. China is dominating the industrial market right now and China is the 2nd largest economy, Japan fall to the 4th place, behind a struggling Germany...
哈哈，不。中国现在正在主导世界的工业市场，中国是世界第二大经济体，而日本则掉到了世界第四，落后于苦苦挣扎的德国。
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By 2050, Japan won't even be on the list of Top10 largest world economies.
到2050年，世界前十大经济体中，甚至都不会有日本的一席之地。