认识中国的 "全职子女"： 失业青年为父母打工的原因(3)
Meet China’s ‘Full Time Children’: Why Unemployed Youths Are Working For Their Parents
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网友：为什么我们需要称其为全职子女？几个世纪以来，很多人都在这样做，这不是一种新现象，为什么要贴上侮辱性的标签？许多从大学毕业的人都经历过因经济衰退而失业，在家为年迈的家人工作仍然是工作。
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认识中国的 "全职子女"： 失业青年为父母打工的原因
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Chinese society seems to be overall a miserable existence for a lot of people. Wherever people can find some happiness, let them.
对很多人来说，中国社会总体上似乎是一个悲惨的社会。但无论在哪里，人们都能找到一些快乐。
Why do we need to call it a full time child people been doing it in many centuries in many population it's not a phenomenon. Why the insulting labels. Many people straight out of uni experience recession unemployment. Work at home work for your ageing family is still work.
为什么我们需要称其为全职子女？几个世纪以来，很多人都在这样做，这不是一种新现象，为什么要贴上侮辱性的标签？许多从大学毕业的人都经历过因经济衰退而失业，在家为年迈的家人工作仍然是工作。
I’m not Chinese I’m American and one prominent American belief is that if there is no opportunity, create the opportunity and take as many people with you as you can.
我不是中国人，我是美国人，美国人有一个突出的信念，那就是如果没有机会，就创造机会，并尽可能地多拯救一些人。
Anyway, you have single child, you also going to inherit the house, then do you really even need to work? You only have your cost of living, not really a mortgage to slave over. Quite unique, and I wonder how financially able these urban parents are? Like really, if you have enough investment and cash, a fully paid up house, these urban youths don't ever have to work.
不管怎么说，你是独生子女，还将继承房子，那你真的还需要工作吗？你只需支出生活费，没有房贷。这很独特，我想知道这些城市父母的经济能力如何？事实上，如果你有足够的投资和现金，有一栋全额付清的房子，这些城市年轻人就不必工作了。
I can't wrap my head around this concept. If the children are paid for their "services", shouldn't the parents charge them rent as well? I am totally speechless. Why don't we just call it what it is--unemployed, temporarily staying at home, while finding one's direction?
我无法理解这个概念。如果孩子们的 "服务 "是有偿的，那么父母难道不应该向他们收取租金吗？我完全无言以对。我们为什么不直呼其名--失业，暂时待在家里，同时在寻找自己的方向？
We have to ask our system and government for why those youngster stuck in their home rather than calling them out for being dependent on their parents. Seriously, do you think in this time of endless recession with outrageous amount of competition in job market would be fair to ask these people for just being ‘lazy’?
我们得问问我们的制度和政府，为什么那些年轻人会被困在家里，而不是骂他们依赖父母。说真的，你觉得在这个经济无止境地衰退、就业市场竞争激烈到令人发指的时代，要求这些人 "懒惰 "公平吗？
Well I mean at least they become a housekeeper instead of you know, just gaming all day long. At least they are becoming the "househusband/housewife" this way. Although the sustainability is kinda questionable tho.
我的意思是，至少他们成了管家，而不是整天只知道玩游戏。至少他们通过这种方式成为了 "家庭主妇"（虽然可持续性有点问题）。
In india we live with our parents(most of them even after marriage),take care of them and do our chores , go to our job , raise children ourselves without expecting any wages from our parent.
It is out duty in India❤
在印度，我们与父母生活在一起（大多数人甚至在婚后也与父母生活在一起），照顾他们，做家务，上班，自己抚养孩子，但我们不指望父母给我们任何工资。
这是我们在印度的责任❤。
Reflect: Thanks CNA Insider for sharing the topic. Indeed poverty doesn't exist. The true culprit that causes a rich poor gap in the society is the Pyramid Obelisk Administration. It doesn't matter whether it is Full Time Parent or Full Time Children, as long as one individual has to spend hours a day to work and serve in the family; society; marketplace; etc, are needed to get paid to meet our daily needs. In order to make ESG Policy be more effective to serve the entire world economy system, our economy value system has to REFORM and Full Time Children is a good starting point. In terms of how and where the money comes from, that's another exciting topic to be discussed and improved. God Is Love! 佩（贝）玲笔。���������������������
反映：感谢 CNA Insider 分享这个话题。事实上，贫困并不存在，造成社会贫富差距的真凶是金字塔方尖碑管理局。不管是全职父母还是全职子女，只要有一个人每天花几个小时工作，为家庭、社会、市场等服务，就应该得到能够满足我们的日常需求的报酬。为了使 ESG 政策更有效地服务于整个世界经济体系，我们的经济价值体系必须进行改革，而全职子女就是一个很好的起点。至于钱是怎么来的，从哪里来的，这又是一个值得讨论和改进的令人兴奋的话题。上帝就是爱，佩（贝）玲笔。
Tao Tao parents are doing the right thing being harsh to the son and Jia Yi parents are just trying to be nice to their daughter or rather overly doting to her - this will prevent her from facing reality
涛涛的父母对儿子严厉是对的，佳怡的父母只是想对女儿好一点，或者过度溺爱女儿，这会让她无法面对现实。
Yes, you can say that it can put financial strain on the parents retirement. But some parents know their kids and they would prefer to have quality times with their only child, while they can, and build good memories. It is not like the children are never going back to work. They seek good oppturnties. Jobs conditions and oppturnties now in this generation is more competititve and harsh than 20 years ago. Many people young people had commited suicide due to the work stress and no place to turn to. If you dont support your child and when the are gone it would be too late. their mental is affected it would cost money to cure them, and even more. Maybe while they spent time with their parents they may find something or options that they can work from their paretns' homes. Things can change and if you are too tunnel minded, you would loose to observe the other things around it, that is beatiful. Life is not just about work and money, during that time away from work they can work so much like communication and perspective in life. I can say taht due to my own experience. I choose to hold myself back and got out of my country when i can, and now i have a beautiful life that i want overseas. And I can afford to do things I want and a job that i like, without my paretns support to take time off work and focus on what I want and reasoning or communicationg with people, i would not be where I am right now. I would be in the rat race that hardly paind and I wojld not have quality time that I had with my parents. Parents please dont be too hard on your children. If you pushed them too much, they wioudl not turn to you anymore and they would feel so alone and prons to other things.
是的，你可以说这会给父母的退休生活带来经济压力。但有些父母了解自己的孩子，他们更希望在自己有能力的时候与独生子女共度美好时光，留下美好的回忆。孩子们并不是永远不回去工作，他们只是在寻找好的机会。与 20 年前相比，这一代人现在的工作条件和机会更具竞争性，也更加残酷。许多年轻人因为工作压力大、无处可去而自杀。如果你不支持你的孩子，当他们离开的时候就为时已晚。也许当他们与父母共度时光时，他们会发现一些东西或选择，他们可以在父母家里工作。世事是可以改变的，如果你的思想过于狭隘，你就会忽略对周围其他事物的观察，而这才是最美好的。生活不仅仅是工作和金钱，在离开工作的那段时间里，他们可以做很多事情，比如沟通和树立人生观。我可以说这就是我的亲身经历，我选择了忍耐并在有能力的时候走出了自己的国家，现在我在国外拥有了自己想要的美好生活。如果没有我父母的支持，我将无法请假并专注于我想要的事情，也无法与人交流，我就不会有现在的生活。我可能会陷入几乎没有时间的 "老鼠赛跑"，也不会有和父母在一起的美好时光。父母们，请不要对你们的孩子太苛刻。如果你对他们逼得太紧，他们就不会再求助于你，他们会感到孤独并倾向于其他事情。
This is more proof to me that the economic power is shifting and will continue to shift to South and Southeast Asia. A faulty family planning policy in violation of clear guidance that Sun Yat-sen outlines within the first 20 pages of Three Principles of the People combined with credential inflation rather than a balanced legalist approach towards filling blue collar jobs is going to push jobs and investment outside of China towards India and it’s neighbors and towards SEA.
在我看来，这更加证明了经济力量正在并将继续向南亚和东南亚转移。错误的计划生育政策违反了孙中山先生在《三民主义》前 20 页中提出的明确指导，再加上文凭膨胀，而不是采取平衡的法律主义方法来填补蓝领工作岗位，这将把中国以外的工作岗位和投资推向印度及其邻国和东南亚。
Lol i couldnt find a job for 7months but my parents just keep telling me to keep finding while i keep doing part time jobs��� no chance to be 全职儿女 because they got no salary for me. They rely on me for salary
哈哈，我曾经有7个月找不到工作，但我的父母一直告诉我要继续找，同时我还要做兼职。我没有机会做全职儿女，因为他们没有给我薪水，他们甚至靠我薪水生活。
啃老族 - this started happening in Japan too many years ago after 1990s economic crisis
If we work and we have difficulty then we can ask for assistance
That is how families with generational wealth will likely do -
啃老族 - 很多年前，上世纪90年代经济危机之后，日本就开始出现这种情况了。
我父亲总是教导我和我的兄弟姐妹们，要通过工作来赚钱--如果我们不工作，就不会得到经济支持。
如果我们工作但遇到困难，我们可以请求援助。
拥有世代财富的家庭很可能会这样做（即拥有全职子女）。
The entire developed world is going thru this crisis in some degree! Where younger generations can’t afford basic crap bc of policies the older generations implemented and utilize and benefited from
整个发达国家都在某种程度上经历着这场危机！年轻一代负担不起老一辈实施、利用和从中受益的基本政策。
Mmmh.... I don't know what to say, in my country you do all the chosres for the simply fact that you live rent free and eat the same food. They are just pampering their misery, this is really weird. You don't find a job? Go and search, try and try again, how can you rely on elders just because you clean, cook and go shopping for them. You do that stuff for free because they raised you and because you live with them.
It would be normal to work and put your money into the family to reduce their expenses. This is really wicked for me.
嗯.... 我不知道该说什么。在我的国家，你做所有的家务只是因为你住在免租金的地方，吃着免费的食物。他们只是在放纵自己的痛苦，这真的很奇怪。找不到工作？去找找看，试一试，再试一试，怎么能因为你为他们打扫卫生、做饭、买东西就依赖长辈呢？你做这些都是免费的，因为他们养育了你，因为你和他们住在一起。
正常情况下，你应该工作，应该把自己的钱投入到家庭中以减少他们的开支，所以这（做全职子女）对我来说真的很邪恶。
996還買不起房，沒時間生活,陪伴家人。身體健康還會因為工作壓力跟因為工作養成的不良生活習慣越來越差。那幹嘛卷？努力有回報的話，大部分的人應該都會喜歡成就感的吧？
I can’t believe the entitlement. Move home and live for free, but expect to be paid an allowance for doing chores. Where’s the gratitude? Maybe if their parents had taught their kids to contribute to the household growing up, those kids would grow up to value contributing to society.
我简直不敢相信这种权利。搬回家免费住，做家务还要拿津贴。感恩之心何在？也许如果他们的父母从小就教育孩子为家庭做贡献，这些孩子长大后就会重视对社会的贡献。
Imagine spending hundreds of thousands just to raise them up, then have them say 'get compensation for cleaning and cooking is well deserved'. WHAT???
You are supposed to do all that for free!!!!!!!!
Just admit you are a failure that have to have parents pay for your whole life!
试想一下，花几十万把他们养大，然后让他们说'打扫卫生做饭得到补偿是应该的'。什么？
你应该免费做这一切!!!!!!!!！
承认自己是个一辈子都要父母为你付出的失败者吧！
This is a very sad turn of events and Chinese culture / tradition. 这是华裔文化5000年来最悲哀的转变！It’s filial piety down the drain! 这是把孝道倒入沟渠！ At adults employment age, instead of earning a decent living and help put food on the family table and family daily expenses and chores and not to get hand outs from parents, they have the audacity and thick skin to seek payments for household chores. Why not go out and work as domestic helps in unrelated wealthy families or in Other countries ? 以经是成人能合法工作的年纪，不出工作好好打一份良好的工作帮助家庭费用及做家务反而呆在家中还厚脸皮伸手要钱太不像话！他们应该到富有家庭或到外国当清洁工人或其他合法工作。
这是中华文化 5000 年来最悲哀的转变！这是把孝道倒入沟渠！到了成年人的就业年龄，不好好挣钱养家糊口，帮助家里解决温饱、家庭日常开支和家务，不向父母伸手要钱，反而胆大妄为、厚着脸皮找人要家务费。为什么不出去到不相关的富裕家庭或其他国家做家政服务员呢？已经是成人能合法工作的年纪，不出去好好打一份良好的工作帮助家庭节省费用
反而呆在家中还厚脸皮伸手要钱太不像话！他们应该到富有家庭或到外国当清洁工人或做其他合法的工作。
Full time child?��� Hilarious. Children live under parent roof should help house chore. It is called filial duty. For me full time child is just another term of unemployed workforce. Nomatter how good the term, the child still suck off parents money or pension.
全职子女？住在父母屋檐下的孩子应该帮忙做家务，这就是所谓的孝道。对我来说，全职子女不过是失业劳动力的另一种说法。不管条件有多好，孩子还是要吸走父母的钱或养老金。
It's never a job, just like e-sport is never a sport! There's nth wrong with parents supplementing the children during bad times and definitely nothing wrong with one helping and accompanying one's parents but it's not a job. A job allows one to find another employer and getting paid more, I doubt one can find another parents to employ him/her. Just like e-sport, it's gaming, which is not wrong but it's never a sport, believing that it's a sport is just lying to oneself.
这从来都不是一份工作，就像电子竞技从来不是一项运动一样！父母在孩子不顺的时候接济一下无可厚非，帮助和陪伴父母也无可厚非，但这不是工作。工作意味着让一个人找到另一个雇主并获得更高的报酬，我怀疑这个人能否找到另一个父母来雇用他/她。就像电子竞技，它是游戏，这没有错，但它绝不是体育运动，认为它是体育运动只是在自欺欺人。
I think the children are spoilt and not competitive at all. Instead of being full time children, they should work harder so that their parents can quit their job and become full time 'Parents'. They are simply waiting for their parents' legacy. If the parents do not have property or well off, i don't think the children will be willing to waste their youth being full time children. Maybe that is why there is a saying‘ 富不过三代’。
我觉得孩子们都被宠坏了，他们一点竞争力都没有。与其说他们是全职子女，不如说他们应该更加努力地工作，这样他们的父母就可以辞去工作，成为全职 "父母"。他们只是在等待继承父母的遗产而已。如果父母没有财产或生活不富裕，我认为孩子们不会愿意浪费青春做全职子女。也许这就是为什么会有'富不过三代'的说法。
It's just not the correct mindset, get a proper job wtv it could be and get experience from it.. what is going to happen when their parents are no longer around and these youths have no working skills/experience at all?
这不是正确的心态，他们应该找一份合适的工作并从中获得经验。当他们的父母不在身边，而这些年轻人根本没有工作技能/经验时，会发生什么？
They will regret it in the long run. Because the employers will not hire them with such an unemployment gap and age considering to the younger recent graduate. They are destroying their future and career.
从长远来看，他们会后悔的，因为雇主不会在失业率和年龄如此悬殊的情况下雇佣他们。
他们正在毁掉自己的未来和事业。
So their parents will never retire? Their parents will be busy working 9-5 jobs until what age? Young people leeching off parents' salary & retirement savings is just what it is: leeching. Stop romanticizing
他们的父母永远不会退休？他们的父母会忙于朝九晚五的工作，直到几岁？年轻人榨取父母的工资和退休储蓄就是榨取，别再浪漫化了。
��� I'm a thinker. Thinking is my job . I'm one of the best thinker in my local area . I get money for thinking coz thinking is labour intensive work & to run the wheel of thinking I need fuel which is ciggies. Without ciggies I can't think. For ciggies I need money. Lazy but not useless. Many great thinkers around the world used to take pocket money from their parents.
我是一个思想家，思考是我的工作，我是当地最好的思想家之一。思考是一项劳动密集型的工作，我需要燃料来驱动思考的车轮，而燃料就是香烟。没有香烟，我就无法思考。为了买烟，我需要钱。我很懒惰，但并非一无是处。世界上许多伟大的思想家都曾从父母那里拿过零花钱。