乌克兰情报部门确认击中俄罗斯石油仓库和火药厂
Ukrainian Intel Confirms It Struck Russian Oil Depot and Gunpowder Factory
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Ukrainian Intel Confirms It Struck Russian Oil Depot and Gunpowder Factory
乌克兰情报部门确认击中俄罗斯石油仓库和火药厂
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“Later, the governor of the region, Oleksandr Bogomaz, confirmed the attack on the facility which is owned by Rosneft, saying that the Russian military “was able to suppress the drone by means of radio-electronic warfare.”
后来，该地区的州长Oleksandr Bogomaz证实了对俄罗斯石油公司设施的攻击，并表示俄罗斯军方“能够通过无线电电子战手段压制无人机。”
Bogomaz声称，当无人机被摧毁时，它设法将弹药掉落在石油仓库上，导致燃料罐起火，俄罗斯方面的消息称没有人员伤亡。
最高质量的俄罗斯电子战迫使无人机直接向目标投下炸弹，点燃目标。伟大的成功防御，伏特加到处都是同志!
when you have met your KPI....
take down drone...regardless of what it lands on.
当你完成你的KPI：击落无人机…
不管它落在什么地方。
They successfully intercepted the drone with a gunpowder factory
他们成功地用火药厂拦截了无人机。
Bravo. Now get all your anti-missile gear revved up. You know those pricks are gonna bomb some civilian targets in retaliation.
兄弟，现在把你的反导弹装置都启动起来，你知道那些混蛋会轰炸一些平民目标作为报复。
Alas, close to the border there are exactly two things that can be done against missiles that were launched from 50km away: jack and shit. At least right now. There simply isn't enough time to respond (a minute or so).
唉，在靠近边境的地方，只有两件事可以对付从50公里外发射的导弹：杰克和狗屎。至少现在是这样，根本没有足够的时间来回应(一分钟左右)。
DibblerTB
Oil depot AND gundpowder factory, at the same site? That is one happy little drone finding a straight up buffet.
油库和火药厂，在同一地点吗?这是一个快乐的小无人机找到了一个直接的自助餐。
“我们应该把这些易燃的东西放在哪里? 嗯，放在火药厂旁边。”
Inflammable means flammable? What a country!
难燃的意思是易燃?这是个什么国家啊!
If it isn't my old friend Mr McKegg!
这不是我的老朋友麦凯格先生吗!
Sort of like the fireworks and fertilizer warehouse in Beirut
有点像贝鲁特的烟花和化肥仓库。
Sound like an actual Family Guy bit
听起来像是《恶搞之家》的一个真实片段。
DeeDee_Z
Oil depot AND gundpowder factory, at the same site?
油库和火药厂，在同一地点吗?
关于布良斯克指的是哪里(或哪个)有一些困惑，但布良斯克州和坦波夫州相距大约8小时的车程，两者都位于莫斯科以南。
所以，我不认为“在同一地点”没有任何道理，除非存在不止一个布良斯克。
Its a fortune cookie drone " You will see a exploded oil depot, and gunpowder factory in your future, if you get lucky with a happy ending"
这是一架幸运饼干无人机，“如果你幸运地得到一个幸福的结局，你将在未来看到一个爆炸的油库和火药厂。”
Mandurang76
In December, they sabotaged railroads deep in Russia. I think Ukraine should do these "small" disruptive attacks on Russias soil more often.
12月，他们破坏了俄罗斯境内的铁路。我认为乌克兰应该更频繁地在俄罗斯领土上进行这些“小型”破坏性攻击。
I see this as how Ukraine stops Russia. Constant mini attacks on key facilities with drones, keep the front lines stalled as best you can and just keep taking Russian assets to a firey grave. Idk what drones they're using but their pilots sound epic.
我认为这是乌克兰阻止俄罗斯的方式。用无人机对关键设施进行持续的小型攻击，尽可能地让前线停滞不前，然后继续把俄罗斯的资产带到火坑里。我不知道他们用的是什么无人机，但他们的飞行员听起来像史诗。
See, this is where AI would be good. "Which attack will have the maximum knock on effect in terms of disruption"
看，这就是人工智能的好处所在。“哪一次袭击在破坏方面会产生最大的影响?”
For over two thousand years we waited until the creation of AI in order to predict which type of attack would be most effective on the enemy. What did we ever do before 2023?
两千多年来，我们一直在等待人工智能的出现，以预测哪种攻击对敌人最有效。2023年之前我们做过什么?
That's not what AI is for. You don't need machine learning for what military intelligence already does, it can be as simple as a Word doc.
这不是人工智能的用途。你不需要机器学习来完成军事情报部门已经完成的工作，它可以像Word文档一样简单。
Both-Anything4139
Brace yourselves. Russians are gonna use nk missiles to blow up a mall, a school and a gas station now.
坚持住。俄罗斯人现在要用朝鲜导弹炸毁一个商场，一所学校和一个加油站。
one of them will be in Russia, one will be in Russian-occupied Ukraine being used by their own troops, and one will be a civilian target.
其中一个将在俄罗斯，一个将在俄罗斯占领的乌克兰，由他们自己的军队使用，还有一个将是平民目标。
I'm not cheering for it I'm emphasizing the sheer stupidity of the Russian campaign. Sorry if my comment made you think I was celebrating it.
我不是在为它欢呼，我是在强调俄罗斯战役的愚蠢。如果我的评论让你以为我在庆祝，我很抱歉。
He was being sarcastic. Russia has already done those things.
他是在讽刺我。俄罗斯已经做了这些事情。
Visceral_Feelings
Lawful military target. If Russia doesn't want such instances to continue, withdrawal to 2013 borders and negotiate financial recompensation to Ukraine.
合法的军事目标。如果俄罗斯不希望这种情况继续下去，那就撤回到2013年的边界，并就对乌克兰的财政补偿进行谈判。
It's the elephant in the room and a simple question to shut down any pro Russian troll.
这是显而易见的事，一个简单的问题就能堵住任何亲俄喷子的嘴。
为了结束战争，俄罗斯做出了什么妥协?他们的报价是多少?
the fate of Putin, he cant be seen weak, as many have pointed out. Although, . . .he seems rather weak already.
普京的命运，他不能示弱，正如许多人指出的那样。虽然，他看起来已经很虚弱了。
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Skagouroux
Yeah but Putin would never do this. At this point if he withdraws, he'll look weak, with all the pro-war propaganda that has spread since 2022 and before. He can't afford it, especially with the upcoming elections.
是啊，但是普京永远不会这么做。在这个时候，如果他退出，他就会显得软弱，因为所有支持战争的宣传都是从2022年开始传播的。他负担不起，尤其是在即将到来的选举中。
I know, and even in the scenario I described he would certainly still win. But it still wouldn't look good for him.
我知道，即使在我描述的情况下，他也肯定会赢，但这对他来说还是不太好。
The election isn't the problem.
选举不是问题所在。
问题是，没有毒材者是单独统治的。他依赖于一群人(即使媒体让我们相信普京周围都是没有头脑的应声虫)。
其中一些人觊觎普京的位置。
如果普京失去足够的支持，他们中的一个设法为政变争取支持只是时间问题。
I would hope Ukraine could put enough drones together to do a blitz against all sites like this at once…
我希望乌克兰能把足够多的无人机放在一起，发动一次对所有这样的基础设施的闪电战…
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Putin knows if that happens he dies. So he will sacrifice anything and everything before that happens.
普京知道如果发生这种情况，他就死定了。所以他会在那之前牺牲一切。
Hyceanplanet
Ukraine getting very good at these infrastructure attacks. Whereas Russia targets civilians, Ukraine sticking with military targets. Clearest Good vs Evil, and the US R Congress stalls the help needed.
乌克兰非常擅长攻击这些基础设施。俄罗斯以平民为目标，乌克兰则坚持以军事目标为目标。善恶分明，美国国会拖延了所需的帮助。
p0rty-Boi
We need to keep Russia on her knees. If their war machine gets fully powered up it will be really hard to stop. These internal attacks are crucial to keep the balance of the war from slipping out of control in Russias favor.
我们需要让俄罗斯屈服。如果他们的战争机器完全启动，那将很难停止。这些本土袭击对于保持战争的平衡，不向有利于俄罗斯的方向失控至关重要。
It is fully powered up, and it isn’t intimidating, it isn’t well organized, it isn’t well supplied, its equipment isn’t fierce, and its fighters aren’t prepared. The Russian war machine has been found incompetent.
俄罗斯装备齐全，没有威慑力，组织不力，供应不足，装备不够凶猛，战士也没有准备。人们发现了俄罗斯战争机器的无能。
You need to learn your history. Russian industrial capacity is staggering. We are not going to beat them if we ignore their industrial potential. It needs to be hamstrung internally via attacks like this and we turn all their territory and capacity into a liability, keep them looking inward and on the defensive.
你需要学习历史，俄罗斯的工业产能令人震惊。如果我们忽视他们的工业潜力，我们就无法打败他们。我们需要通过这样的攻击来削弱他们的内部力量，把他们所有的领土和能力变成一种负担，让他们向内看，处于守势。
The soviet unx had staggering industrial capacity, Russia doesn't. It's important to remember that the soviet unx wasn't just Russia, it was Ukraine and a ton of other key regions, plus all the industrial might of the warsaw pact like the massive Czech arms industry and east german manufacturing. Russia has lost the vast majority of its military-industrial capacity. Russia has the same GDP as canada now.
苏联拥有惊人的工业能力，而俄罗斯没有，重要的是要记住，苏联不仅仅是俄罗斯，还有乌克兰和许多其他关键地区，再加上华沙条约的所有工业力量，比如捷克大规模的军火工业和东德的制造业。俄罗斯已经失去了绝大部分军事工业能力，俄罗斯现在的GDP和加拿大一样。
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Alundra828
Russia must be so frustrated that all their critical infrastructure is out in the open under undefended air space, and they can't really meaningfully retaliate as Ukrainian weapons and supplies are not being produced in Ukraine.
俄罗斯一定非常沮丧，因为他们所有的关键基础设施都在不设防的空域里，他们无法进行真正有意义的报复，因为乌克兰的武器和物资不是在乌克兰生产的。
乌克兰人只会按照自己的节奏尽可能地摧毁所有俄罗斯的基础设施，而俄罗斯所能做的就是通过向民用公寓楼投掷哑弹来“传递信息”。
Bravo. Now get all your anti-missile gear revved up. You know those pricks are gonna bomb some civilian targets in retaliation.
太棒了。现在把你所有的反导弹装置都启动起来。你知道那些混蛋会轰炸一些平民目标作为报复。
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Russia doesn't really do retaliation. You've absorbed Kremlin propaganda.
俄罗斯不会真的进行报复，你被克里姆林宫的宣传洗脑了。
不管乌克兰或其他国家怎么做，一旦他们的库存配额准备好了，俄罗斯的所有攻击无论如何都会发生，也许在不同的一天。
Yes, they attack all the time, but there are frequently much larger attacks right after a particularly big win from Ukraine. It's not crazy to assume that Russia is trying to deter such wins.
是的，他们一直在攻击，但在乌克兰取得一场特别大的胜利后，经常会有更大规模的攻击，假设俄罗斯试图阻止这样的胜利并不疯狂。
就你的观点而言，如果你总是不顾一切的轰炸平民，那就不会非常有效。无论是5枚还是50枚导弹，无论如何都不会影响乌克兰人。
UrbanGhost114
Missile defence is centred around infrastructure, which is why it's not being successfully attacked that often, and why soft civilians are Russia's main avenue of missile attacks, it can't get through the defences where they are, only where they aren't (civilians). It's an unfortunate reality of war.
导弹防御系统分布在基础设施周边，这就是为什么它不能经常被成功攻击的原因，也是为什么手无寸铁的平民是俄罗斯导弹攻击的主要目标，俄罗斯避不开导弹防御系统，只有在没有防御系统(平民)的地方，这是战争的不幸现实。
IronyDiedIn2016
Strikes like this are how the Taliban forced Russia out of Afghanistan. Albeit they weren’t able to strike Russia popular.
塔利班就是通过这样的袭击把俄罗斯赶出阿富汗的，尽管他们没能在俄罗斯大受欢迎。
俄罗斯有一条旷日持久的防线，袭击补给线最终将切断他们部队的粮食供应，以及他们车辆的汽油和柴油供应。
乌克兰需要攻击前线桥梁、仓库和关键基础设施的工具。
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cmfarsight
Well that was foolish building an oil depot and gunpowder factory, surely you should keep those separate.
油库和火药厂在一块，真是愚蠢，你当然应该把它们分开。
I'm trying to think why that would happen.
我在想为什么会这样。
这是邻避主义（“不要在我的后院”主义，即成果受益者只愿意付出与其他人等价的成本，而不愿付出高额的成本）的一个例子吗?或者只是一个企业集团/实业家买下一大片土地，把他所有的产业都放在一个地方?这肯定是任何长期军事战略规划都不能接受的。
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SageLeaf1
Building them separate seems just as easy to take down and harder to defend
把它们分开建造似乎很容易被摧毁，但却很难防御。
Maybe they had good air defense when they where built decades ago? Close location could have been strategic as one air defense system would cover both factories.
也许他们几十年前建造的时候有很好的防空系统?近距离的位置可能具有战略意义，因为一个防空系统可以覆盖两个工厂。
jdeo1997
In Saint Petersburg, fairly far from Ukraine.
在圣彼得堡，离乌克兰相当远。
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这既表明了如果俄罗斯真的与北约作战会有多操蛋(爱沙尼亚和芬兰在舰队通过波罗的海之前，会毫不犹豫地关闭圣彼得堡港)，也表明了他们的防空系统有多操蛋(他们甚至连乌克兰都接近不了)。