网友关于一张“2022 年欧洲凶杀率”地图的热议
HOMICIDE RATE IN EUROPE 2022
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网友：我的意思是，在大多数国家，有组织犯罪都会导致凶杀案，但如果有组织犯罪取代无组织犯罪，其数量可能会大大低于没有法治或有组织犯罪取代法治的地方。这实际上取决于谋杀人们对他们继续赚钱活动的能力的干扰程度，或者是否确实有帮助......
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HOMICIDE RATE IN EUROPE 2022
2022 年欧洲凶杀率
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I love it how countries where most of the highest level organized crime originates from, Albania and Montenegro, are shown as "no data".
我喜欢阿尔巴尼亚和黑山等大多数最高级别有组织犯罪起源的国家显示为“无数据”
They must’ve killed the statisticians too :(
他们一定也杀了统计学家:(
I’m from Albania and this idea of albanian mafia is bullshit and largely a myth. Organised crime here is just like any other country. The so called “mafia” has never targeted civilians like you would hear in Latin America…
我来自阿尔巴尼亚，阿尔巴尼亚黑手党的想法完全是胡说八道，很大程度上是一个虚构神话。这里的有组织犯罪与其他国家一样。所谓的“黑手党”从来不会像您在拉丁美洲听到的那样以平民为目标……
We get a lot of Albanian gangs in the UK. There are Albanian families situated in the UK that get family members from Albania to come and contribute in the drug trade, Coke mainly. (Source: speaking to Albanians selling me coke)
Albanians are the largest non British population in British prisons and are nowhere near the largest immigrant population in the country.
英国有很多阿尔巴尼亚帮派。在英国有一些阿尔巴尼亚家庭，他们从阿尔巴尼亚引进家庭成员，参与毒品贸易，主要是可卡*。（来源：与卖给我可卡*的阿尔巴尼亚人交谈）
阿尔巴尼亚人是英国监狱中最多的非英国人，但在英国的移民群体中远不是最大的。
That being said it's not like they're the reason for the crime. There's always going to be drug crime as long as the drugs are illegal and removing any sort of organised gang just opens the door for the next.
Also please do not take this as Albanian hate. I have met plenty of non drug dealing Albanians in and out the UK, of which are consistently friendly and funny.
这可能是人们在我所在地区对阿尔巴尼亚人的刻板印象的来源，尽管这可能是错误的。
也就是说，这并不是说他们是犯罪的原因。只要毒品是非法的，就会一直存在毒品犯罪，而消除任何形式的有组织犯罪团伙只会为下一个打开大门。
还请不要把这看作对阿尔巴尼亚人的仇恨。我在英国内外遇到过很多不贩毒的阿尔巴尼亚人，他们总是友好而风趣。
Well there you make one heck of comparison
嗯，你做了一个相当引人注目的对比。
I mean organized crime in most countries contributes to homicides, but if they displace unorganized crime it can be substantially less than places without rule of law or where organized crime replaces the rule of law. It really depends on how much murdering people interferes with their ability to continue their money making operations, or if it actually helps it.
That’s why part of Boston’s anti-violence program, called the “pulling levers” part, centers around ignoring small crimes until a gang member commits murder. Then, they not only start busting them and all of their friends and gang members for any of the smaller crimes they were ignoring like selling pot, but also literally doing outreach to those gang members and telling them who fucked up and why.
It’s very effective.
我的意思是，在大多数国家，有组织犯罪都会导致凶杀案，但如果有组织犯罪取代无组织犯罪，其数量可能会大大低于没有法治或有组织犯罪取代法治的地方。这实际上取决于谋杀人们对他们继续赚钱活动的能力的干扰程度，或者是否确实有帮助。
这就是为什么波士顿反暴力计划的一部分被称为“拉杆”部分，其重点是忽视小犯罪，直到帮派成员犯下谋杀罪。然后，他们不仅开始抓捕他们以及他们所有的朋友和帮派成员，因为他们忽视了任何较小的犯罪行为，比如卖大麻，而且还向这些帮派成员进行了宣传，告诉他们谁搞砸了以及为什么。
这非常有效。
I love how you provide no sources.
我喜欢你不提供任何来源的方式。
lots of organised crime gangs in south Italy, yet homicide rates low by international standards?
意大利南部有很多有组织的犯罪团伙，但凶杀率按照国际标准却很低？
Why Baltics so bad?
为什么波罗的海国家如此糟糕？
Poor depressed alcoholics
I am Latvian
可怜的抑郁酗酒者
我是拉脱维亚人
I read a interview with a police chief from I think Latvia a long time ago and he was like, yes we have a lot of murders but they are done mostly drunk so it's easy to catch them.
我很久以前读过一篇对拉脱维亚警察局长的采访，他说，是的，我们有很多谋杀案，但他们大多是喝醉了，所以很容易抓住他们。
Alcoholism and a poor rural culture, very many incidents happen between middle-aged people that know each other after consuming a lot of drink.
酗酒和贫困的农村文化，很多事件都发生在已经喝了很多酒的互相认识的中年人之间。
Small populations with a few homicides. Makes it look worse than it is.IMO in Estonia, it´s usually alcohol related murders. But a lot of the violent culture from the 80s and 90s carried over to the 2000s. Most murders in Estonia are committed by the less educated and poorer people.
人口较小，凶杀案件较少。这使得情况看起来比实际糟糕。在我看来，在爱沙尼亚，通常是与酒精有关的谋杀。但80年代和90年代的许多暴力文化延续到了2000年代。爱沙尼亚大多数凶杀案都是由受教育较低和贫困的人犯下的。
此外，我们这里并不真正惩罚凶手。典型的刑罚是7到15年。即使你获得了满15年，仍然有可能提前释放。在大约2017年，一名女性用刀刺死了她的邻居。她们两个都喝醉了。她被判了7年，只需要服刑1.5年，其余的是缓刑。
I'm curious is the crime spread amongst the ethnic groups or are the Russians a higher proportion?
我很好奇犯罪是否在各种族群中蔓延，还是俄罗斯人所占比例较高？
No, the share of ethnic Russians in Estonia is much higher than in Lithuania, still Lithuanian figures are worse.
不，爱沙尼亚的俄罗斯族比例比立陶宛高得多，但立陶宛的数字更糟。
Russians are overrepresented when it comes to violent crimes.
俄罗斯人在暴力犯罪方面所占比例过高。
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It got a lot better, look up older numbers.
情况好多了，查一下更早的数据吧。
Firstly it's not bad at all compared to the Americas and Africa
首先，与美洲和非洲相比，它一点也不差
you shouldn't compare countries with continents, what country exactly in Africa or South America, big variance.
你不应该把国家和大洲相比，非洲或南美洲的哪个国家，差异很大。
True. Chile and Venezuela are worlds apart when it comes to crime
没错。智利和委内瑞拉在犯罪方面天差地别。
For what concerns Valle d'Aosta, it has a very small population (125 k people) so a couple murders a year is enough to have such a high rate.
至于瓦莱达奥斯塔（Valle d'Aosta），它的人口非常少（12.5万人），所以一年两起谋杀案足以导致如此高的比率。
Still seems high? Region North Jutland in Denmark (the top portion of the Jutland peninsula) has about 590k people and is in the 0.0-0.5 bracket. Of course the population is about 5 times larger but 125k is for most purposes no small backwater.
Wonder why it’s so relatively high still.
但仍然显得很高？丹麦的北日德兰地区（日德兰半岛的顶端）大约有59万人口，犯罪率在0.0-0.5之间。当然，人口大约是5倍，但对于大多数目的来说，12.5万并不是一个小地方。
不知道为什么犯罪率相对较高。
I think it fluctuates a lot in subdivisions that are so small. I believe I have seen numbers from recent years from Aosta valley in which they didn't have a singe murder at all. At such a small level it's difficult to make general statements.
我认为在如此小的细分地区，它波动很大。我相信我曾看过来自瓦莱达奥斯塔最近几年的数字，其中根本没有一起谋杀案。在如此小的层面上，很难做出一般性的说法。
That is probably the case.
Though there are smaller (population wise) subdivisions on this map with numbers between 0.0-0.5. But with those it might just be a case of them being odd (like Liechtenstein) rather than Valle d’Aosta being particularly high.
情况大概就是这样。
尽管这张地图上有更小的（人口方面的）细分，数字在 0.0-0.5 之间。但对于那些人来说，可能只是他们很奇怪（比如列支敦士登），而不是瓦莱达奥斯塔特别高。
If you average Aosta Valley over the last 5 years you get ~0.4.
如果你将瓦莱达奥斯塔在过去5年平均，你得到的是约0.4。
Well if Liechtenstein happens to have one single murder, they instantly jump to a homicide rate of over 20 per 100,000. In most years they probably have 0 murders but if they get one, their rate goes through the roof.
如果列支敦士登碰巧发生一起谋杀案，他们的凶杀率就会立即跃升到每 10 万人中有 20 人以上。在大多数年份里，他们的谋杀案可能为零，但如果发生一起，他们的谋杀率就会飙升。
They do not. They go to roughly 2.5.
他们不。他们大约达到2.5。
Which would still put it in the top 5.
这仍然可以进入前 5 名。
Despite what the title says the map is about data from 2018 or 2019 (see the source on bottom left).
I searched on the internet and in 2018 there was a depressed mother who killed her two sons. Obviously that's a very sad event but it's a random event and not a structural problem like it may be in other darker areas with a much higher population
尽管标题所说的是该地图是关于2018或2019年的数据（请参见左下角的来源）。
我在互联网上搜索，2018年发生了一起沮丧的母亲杀害她的两个儿子的事件。显然，这是一个非常悲惨的事件，但这是一个偶发事件，而不是像其他人口更多的更黑暗地区可能存在的结构性问题。
Yeah point taken. It “only” takes a couple murders with a population of 125k so it is probably just due to the relatively small population. So fair enough.
是的，有道理。在人口12.5万的情况下，“只是”发生了几起谋杀，所以可能只是因为人口相对较少。这也说得通。
Yep. I confirm That.
是的，我确认这一点
People constantly talk about the stabbing in the uk, and act like our crime is so awful. Yet we have some of the lowest homicide rates in Europe. Crazy how the statistics just don't follow what people say. Who would've thought
人们不断谈论英国的刺伤事件，表现得好像我们的罪行是如此可怕。然而，我们的凶杀率是欧洲最低的。疯狂的是，统计数据与人们所说的不相符。谁能想到呢。
It's all relative. Each stabbing seems more significant and shocking to us because we aren't used to it. The resulting reaction is especially dire and that begins to make people think that things are worse than they actually are
这都是相对的。每一起刺杀对我们来说都显得更重要和令人震惊，因为我们不习惯这种情况。由此产生的反应尤为严重，这开始使人们认为事情比实际情况更糟。
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Very true. Whilst our government has done an awful fucking job. And life has gotten worse. I do think people overexaggerate. My dad has claimed were becoming third world and that he'd prefer to live in eastern europe or indonesia. He's in for a rude awakening if he decides to do that.
It isn't a coincidence that so many people come here, even after brexit.
非常正确。虽然我们的政府做得糟透了。而且生活变得更糟。我确实认为人们夸大其词。我父亲声称我们正在变成第三世界国家，他宁愿住在东欧或印尼。如果他决定那样做，他将会受到一个严酷的唤醒。
这并非偶然，即使在脱欧之后，仍然有那么多人来到这里。
When something is rare, it is shocking and makes news headlines.
I have known people get irrationally angry with me for pointing out that violent crime in the UK is low. So angry that I have been concerned for their mental state. For some people it seems that a belief that they are living in an extremely violent country is important to their sense of self.
当某事很罕见时，它会引起震惊并成为新闻头条。
我知道有些人因为我指出英国的暴力犯罪率低而对我产生了非理性的愤怒。有些人似乎认为，相信他们生活在一个极度暴力的国家对他们的自我感觉很重要。
in France there is a smart guy, expert in these things, Alan Bauer, and he says that you should look at tentatives of murders instead (since emergency services are nowadays very good).
在法国，有一个聪明的人，这方面的专家，艾伦·鲍尔（Alan Bauer），他说你应该看看谋杀的尝试（因为现在的紧急服务非常好）。
It’s mostly Americans trying to deflect from their (actually real and serious) gun problem.
主要是美国人试图转移他们（实际上是真实且严重的）枪支问题的注意力。
You are looking at murders only. Confirming bias much ? Numbers of attacks is quite shocking
你只看凶杀案。确认偏差多大？袭击数量相当令人震惊。
"In the year ending March 2023, there were around 50,500 offences involving a sharp instrument in England and Wales (excluding Devon & Cornwall). This was 4.7% higher than in 2021/22 but 7% lower than in 2019/20"
“截至 2023 年 3 月的一年中，英格兰和威尔士（不包括德文郡和康沃尔郡）发生了约 50,500 起涉及利器的犯罪事件。这比 2021/22 年增加了 4.7%，但比 2019/20 年减少了 7%”
From-wolf-to-pug
138 per day. Quite an out of control situation
每天138起。局势相当失控
Across all of England? Yeah that's bullshit. That's in a very specific area.
遍及整个英格兰？是的，那是胡扯。那是在一个非常特定的地区。
Glasgow
格拉斯哥
Angriest part of the UK
英国最暴躁的地区
The best craic city comes at a cost.
最好的疯狂城市是有代价的
What? Are you britsplaining?
什么？你是说谎的英国人吗？
Nah just playonwordsplaining
不，只是玩文字游戏
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Is there a reason for this?
有什么原因吗？
Poverty and her two children: drugs and crime
贫困和她的两个孩子：毒品和犯罪
Don’t forget alcohol. Scotland still unfortunately has a major drink problem, worse than the rest of the UK
别忘了酒精。不幸的是，苏格兰仍然存在着严重的酗酒问题，比英国其他地区更严重
Alfohol is the #1 drug almost everywhere.
酒精几乎是几乎所有地方的第一毒品。
"Homicide rate in Europe 2022"
"2022年欧洲凶杀率"
<检查来源>
Kkkkkkkkkkkkk
哈哈哈哈哈哈
USA would look entirely brown but for Maine.
如果不是缅因州，美国看起来将完全是棕色的。
美国的凶杀率介于5和9.9之间，几乎是这张地图上最高值的两倍。
You gotta be kidding me☠️
你一定在开玩笑
I am all for the second ammendment, but it´s a lot easier to send someones loved ones casket shopping when the country is flooded with guns.
我完全支持第二修正案，但在一个充斥着枪支的国家，让别人的亲人去挑选棺材就容易多了。
As per the cdc, In 2021, the homicide mortality death rate, expressed per 100,000 total population in the US, is 7.8.
根据疾病控制和预防中心的数据，2021年，在美国，每10万人口中的凶杀死亡率为7.8。
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Well, New Hampshire, but yes.
嗯，新罕布什尔州，但是是的。
Latvia mentioned
提到拉脱维亚
Latvia Pirmajā Vietā
拉脱维亚第一名
Got to ask. WTF guys, what's wrong up there?
得问一下，伙计们。WTF ，上面出了什么问题吗？
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It is possible to murder someone and get less jail time than for selling pot. I've seen multiple articles on murders in Latvia where the murderer is around the age of 50 and has been sentenced for murder already.
在那里可能谋杀某人的刑期比贩卖大麻的刑期还短。我看过多篇关于在拉脱维亚发生的谋杀案的文章，其中凶手大约50岁，已经因谋杀被判刑。
Alcoholism
酗酒问题
The algarve? Really .. lol.. why? due to drunk tourists hitting each other a little too violently on their holidays?
阿尔加维？真的吗..哈哈..为什么？因为在度假期间喝醉的游客彼此打得太激烈了吗？
Now I understand why Midsomer Murders is popular in the UK; it's not drama, it's fantasy.
现在我明白为什么《骇人命案事件簿》在英国这么受欢迎了；这不是戏剧，是幻想。
What’s going on in that little dark spot in northern Italy?
意大利北部那个小黑点发生了什么？
Look up Annamaria Franzoni if you love dark crime stories
如果您喜欢黑暗犯罪故事，请搜索安娜玛丽亚·弗兰佐尼
This is not from 2022.
这不是 2022 年的事情。
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What does age standardized mean?
年龄标准化是什么意思？
Adjusted for the average age of the population. When you for example say that the amount of deaths due to cancer per capita is higher in place x than y it makes sense to take into account the age difference. For murder its not so clear why you adjust if you are just after comparing safety
根据人口的平均年龄进行调整。例如，当您说 x 地点的人均癌症死亡人数高于 y 地点时，考虑年龄差异是有意义的。对于谋杀来说，如果您只是在比较安全性之后进行调整，那么还不清楚为什么要进行调整
Molise continues to not exist
莫利塞州继续不存在
Is there a reason why the UK is so uneven? They have all the safest places in Europe, but at the same time they also have more 'yellow' places than France or Italy.
英国如此不平衡是有原因的吗？他们拥有欧洲所有最安全的地方，但同时他们也有比法国或意大利更多的“黄色”地方。
have you ever been to birmingham? I fear no man but that place... it scares me.
你去过伯明翰吗？我不怕任何人，但那个地方...吓到我了。
Its weird how scotland gets subdivided here but England only gets subdivided into regions. And all the english regions have populations greater than Scotland except like two.
So the data for Scotland is a lot more granular and useful than the English data.
奇怪的是，苏格兰在这里被细分，而英格兰却只被细分为地区。英国所有地区的人口都比苏格兰多，只有两个地区除外。
因此，苏格兰的数据比英国的数据更精细、更有用。
Lol, the two worst states, Russia and Ukraine have no data - of course…
哈哈，两个最差的国家，俄罗斯和乌克兰没有数据 - 当然......
Do kills in a war count as homicides? I'd say no, and it's not easy to determine what in Ukraine is a homicide and what is due to the war.
As for Russia, I guess Putin and his circle alone would raise the rate to like 10.
战争中杀人算作杀人吗？我想说不，在乌克兰很难确定什么是凶杀案，什么是战争造成的。
至于俄罗斯，我猜普京和他的圈子本身就会将这一比率提高到 10 左右
I‘ve never said I meant the cases of war. Just the pre-war numbers should be easily higher than any other European country, especially Russia.
我从来没有说过我指的是战争案件。仅战前的数字就应该轻松高于任何其他欧洲国家，尤其是俄罗斯。
War? Ukraine was crime ridden much before anyone even thought of war, I mean even before 2014 even. It has many notorious serial killers. Just like Russia, scary places in some ways.
战争？早在人们想到战争之前，乌克兰就已经犯罪猖獗，我的意思是甚至在 2014 年之前。它有许多臭名昭著的连环杀手。就像俄罗斯一样，有些地方在某些方面很可怕。
Probably still lower than the US
可能还是低于美国
Glasgow mentioned
提到了格拉斯哥
I was surprised France was low until I read what was on the left
我很惊讶法国的水平很低，直到我读到左边的内容
Wait how do you read this
Every year out of 100.000 deaths x are homicides?
等等，这是怎么读的？
每年每10万人口死亡中有x例凶杀？
As a South American even the highest numbers here are so absurdly low.
作为一个南美人，即使这里最高的数字也低得离谱。
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Slovenia here: most if not all of our murders happen within a family, drinking, jealousy and finance would be the reasons. I feel scared for my life in Western countries at night, and contrary, I feel super safe within South Slavic countries.
斯洛文尼亚：大多数（如果不是全部）谋杀案都发生在家庭内部，酗酒、嫉妒和经济可能是原因。晚上我对西方国家的生活感到害怕，相反，我在南斯拉夫国家感到超级安全。
Do your feelings reflect reality? How many murders in Western Europe do you think are random attacks on strangers? They happen here for the same reasons they happen in Slovenia.
你的感受反映现实吗？您认为西欧有多少谋杀案是针对陌生人的随机袭击？它们发生在这里的原因与发生在斯洛文尼亚的原因相同。
I do believe that this is the case for most murders in Europe wherever you are, when you get down to the numbers. As for Sweden, only 22% of all murders had no relation between the victim and the murderer. In all other cases it was relatives, partners, friends or professional relationships.
I mean you guys have the lowest rate of murders, so it's probably higher than you, but it's definitely most common to murder someone you know, family or partners.
Doesn't really make for exciting headlines though internationally, or even nationwide, so it's probably easy to get the idea that every other country is just filled with random murders by strangers.
Like the Latvians and Estonias said in this thread, even though they lead by much in homicides, it's mostly just drunks killing friends or family.
我确实相信这在欧洲大多数地方都是这样，当你看具体数字时。至于瑞典，仅有22%的凶杀案中，受害者和凶手之间没有关系。在所有其他情况下，都是亲戚、伴侣、朋友或职业关系。
我的意思是你们的凶杀率是最低的，所以它可能比你们高，但最常见的是杀害自己认识的人，家庭成员或伴侣。
然而，这并不会成为引人注目的国际新闻标题，甚至在国内也是如此，因此很容易形成这样一种观念，即其他每个国家都充满了陌生人之间的随机凶杀案。
就像这个帖子中的拉脱维亚人和爱沙尼亚人所说的那样，即使在凶杀案方面他们遥遥领先，大多数情况下也只是醉酒者杀害朋友或家人。
Do you genuinely believe you'll be actively hunted down in Western countries? I'm from the USA (Detroit) and have felt unsafe in specific situations but never in general.
你真的相信你会在西方国家受到追捕吗？我来自美国（底特律），在特定情况下感到不安全，但在一般情况下从未感到不安全。
Same thing in Bulgaria. Usually crimes happen between people that know each other, unlike in the west. Women here walk outside at night after clubbing, things like that. Also the map seems wrong anyways. Especially seeing no data for so many countries.
在保加利亚也是一样。通常犯罪发生在彼此相识的人之间，不像在西方。这里的女性在夜晚外出，比如在夜店后，也是安全的。而且地图似乎无论如何都是错误的。特别是对于这么多国家都没有数据的情况。
I don't know Rick. Looks fake to me.
我不知道，瑞克。对我来说看起来是假的。
Map is accurate. I live in one of the 5 'lowest', and I can't remember the last time I was murdered.
地图是准确的。我住在五个“最低”之一，我想不起我上次被谋杀是什么时候了。
self-destructing russians in Baltics I reckon?
我认为波罗的海的俄罗斯人正在自我毁灭？
Turkey? European?
土耳其？算是欧洲吗？
This is not the map of EU. Turkish soil on European continent is bigger than some European countries so technically they can include them here.
Besides, even though they are not in the EU, they were a member of European Parliament in pre-EU era and they have been a candidate for the EU as well, so not sure what you are surprised about.
这不是欧盟的地图。土耳其在欧洲大陆上的土地面积比一些欧洲国家还大，从技术上讲，他们可以包含在这里。
而且，尽管他们不是欧盟成员，但他们在欧盟前的时期是欧洲议会的成员，并且他们也曾是欧盟的候选国，所以不确定你为什么感到惊讶。
I thought france and England would be highest, arent Paris and London the worst of europe?
我以为法国和英格兰会是最高的，巴黎和伦敦不是欧洲最糟糕的地方吗？
Not really, they sound bad because they’re actually relatively safe but with a large population it’s bound to have incidents. Because they’re safe those incidents get reported and it sounds dangerous as a result.
不是真的，它们听起来很糟糕，因为它们实际上相对安全，但人口众多，必然会发生事故。因为他们是安全的，所以这些事件会被报告，因此听起来很危险。
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3.5 bigger? Amateurs…
3.5倍？业余爱好者...
WHY ARE YOU YELLING!!?
你为什么大喊大叫！！
Wtf is wrong with Valle d'Aosta
瓦莱达奥斯塔搞错了
How do Latvia, Lithuania and also Italy's Aosta have the highest rates?
拉脱维亚、立陶宛和意大利的瓦莱达奥斯塔为什么凶杀率这么高？
Wait, are you telling me all the shows about murderous British farmers are not entirely based on reality?
等等，你是在告诉我所有关于英国农民的杀人节目并不完全基于现实吗？
They do be killing in Latvia, am I right
在拉脱维亚他们确实在杀人，我说的对吧
My school took me skiing in the Valle d'Aosta, think they may have been trying to get rid of some of the naughty kids.
我的学校带我去瓦莱达奥斯塔滑雪，我觉得他们可能是想摆脱一些淘气的孩子。
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Wrong dates 2018-2019
日期错了，是2018-2019年
I mean, no body no crime.
我的意思是，没有尸体就没有犯罪。
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What’s happening around Vienna?
维也纳周围发生了什么？