“跪杀”黑人主犯肖万在狱中被刺22刀
Derek Chauvin was stabbed 22 times in federal prison attack, court docs show | LiveNOW from FOX
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联邦检察官称，因谋杀乔治·弗洛伊德(George Floyd)而被定罪的前明尼阿波利斯警察德里克·肖文(Derek Chauvin)在亚利桑那州图森市联邦惩教所的法律图书馆被一把简易刀具刺了22刀。
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Derek Chauvin was stabbed 22 times in federal prison attack, court docs show | LiveNOW from FOX
悲报——"跪杀"黑人主犯，，网友:他们肯定会让这种情况发生，甚至可能是安排好的。
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2023年12月2日
52-year-old John Turscak was charged with attempted murder in the prison stabbing. He later told FBI agents that he’d been thinking about assaulting Chauvin for about a month because he is a high-profile inmate but denied wanting to kill him, prosecutors said.
联邦检察官称，因谋杀乔治·弗洛伊德(George Floyd)而被定罪的前明尼阿波利斯警察德里克·肖文(Derek Chauvin)在亚利桑那州图森市联邦惩教所的法律图书馆被一把简易刀具刺了22刀。
52岁的约翰·特沙克（John Turscak）被指控在监狱刺杀中谋杀未遂。检察官说，他后来告诉联邦调查局特工，他考虑袭击肖文这件事已经有大约一个月了，因为他是一个备受关注的囚犯，但他否认想要杀死他。
The guards know exactly what they are doing.
警卫很清楚他们在做什么。
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You’re a genius
你是个天才
A cop in with the population.....
警察在人群中......
This happens in our prison systems everyday and even worse than this.
这在我们的监狱系统中每天都在发生，发生的情况甚至比这更糟糕。
maybe the guy that did this is confused about how his guards will react after the shows over. or police in general. just saying he attacked an innocent man that was used as a pariah by the police.
也许做这件事的人对演出结束后他的警卫（或者一般的警察）会有什么反应感到困惑——只是说他袭击了一个被警察当成贱民的无辜的人。
Guards don't run the federal prisons. You obviously don't appreciate how underpowered the "guards" are and you don't have to get along with federal inmates who are doing life sentences anyway.
联邦监狱不归警卫管。你显然没有意识到“警卫”是多么无能为力，你不需要和那些被判无期徒刑的联邦囚犯相处。
And when the word comes down from the higher ups you get it to happen!
当上级下达命令时，你就会让它发生!
Yup. They let that happen for sure. Maybe even set it up.
他们肯定会让这种情况发生，甚至可能是安排好的。
I wish Law Enforcements was this fast at arresting most of The Senators ??
我希望执法部门也能这么快逮捕大多数参议员
And don't forget House of Representatives who need to go to jail
别忘了那些需要进监狱的众议院议员
Arrest them for what?
You're just spouting empty rethoric!
为什么逮捕他们?
你完全是在胡说八道!
I would have thought that an ex-police officer would be segregated from the general population.
我本以为一名前警官会被隔离在普通人群之外。
He can be put into protective custody but being locked in a cell for 23 hours a day sucks.
他可以被保护性监禁，但每天被关在牢房里23个小时太难受了。
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@PSWwebmaster it was his choice, he was moved to a different facility- again by his request- to facilitate an earlier release, the details can be found online. He took a risk & it almost got him killed.
这是他的选择，他被转移到一个不同的场所——同样是他的要求——以便早日释放，细节可以在网上找到。他冒了个险，因此差点丧命。
@poorthing makes no difference, the prison officials have a responsibility to protect him from harm.
没关系，监狱官员有责任保护他不受伤害。
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? @PSWwebmaster LOL. Protect? In there. Lol.
哈哈。保护吗?在那里。
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The prison doesn't have money for a cop who killed someone.
监狱可没钱给杀了人的警察。
@PSWwebmaster He could have been put in with elder and disabled prisoners. He could be a paid (although poorly) health aide.
他本可以和年老的或残疾的囚犯关在一起。他本可以是一名有薪水的(虽然薪水很低)健康助手。
? @PSWwebmaster yeah well that ain't how the real world works, and that's just your opinion
好吧，现实世界不是这样的，那只是你的想法
Chauvin had a responsibility as a police officer to protect George Floyd too
作为一名警察，肖文也有责任保护乔治·弗洛伊德
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? @PSWwebmaster I'm he's thinking that being stabbed 22 times sucks too
他觉得被捅了22刀也很难受
?@PSWwebmaster you should do stand-up ??????
你应该表演单口相声
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They usually are. this whole scenario is because of apologist, woke politics. He was sacrificed in the first place to try to keep the angry blacks from having a histrionic episode.
通常都是这样。这一切都是因为辩护者和觉醒的政治。他的牺牲首先是为了阻止愤怒的黑人上演一出闹剧。
@PSWwebmaster Um, he is being "punished" ...
嗯，他正在被“惩罚”……
Back then with Floyd, Chauvin was an idiot for not making sure that a call for an ambulance had been made, then standing up and telling the other two cops who were there with Floyd (but out of sight of most photos or videos of the incident) that he was leaving and then departed.
当时和弗洛伊德在一起的时候，肖文是个白痴，因为他没有确定是否叫了救护车，然后站起来告诉和弗洛伊德在一起的另外两名警察(但大部分事件的照片或视频都看不见)他要离开，然后就离开了。
@geoh7777 damn you people are really ignorant or just plain lying. they did call an ambulance seconds after.
该死，你们这些人真的很无知，或者只是在撒谎。他们确实在几秒钟后叫了救护车。
That's like saying child molesters and gay dudes should get put elsewhere for being what they are, cop or not who cares you get the same treatment as everyone else they are not special even though court and everyone act like they are
这就像说猥亵儿童者和同性恋者应该因为他们是什么样的人而被关进其他地方，不管是不是警察，不管你和其他人受到什么样的待遇——他们并不特别，尽管法庭和每个人都表现得像他们很特别一样
@poorthing It would be nice if any inmate could just dictate what pop or institution they'd prefer.
如果任何一个囚犯都能决定他们喜欢哪种流行音乐或制度，那就太好了。
@PSWwebmaster you must live in an island with 0 contact with the main land . Also,you must be a blast in every party .
你一定是住在一个与大陆毫无联系的岛上。此外，你必须在每个派对上都表现出色。
?? @slevenkelevra3813 are you serious? Then they could make plans to escape then.
你是认真的吗?真如此的话，他们就可以计划逃跑了。
@poorthing Agreed. He should have never had the option/privilege to go anywhere, thus being treated as everyone else, because no one else would have been granted permission.
Cops in prison no matter what nationality they are may someday run into a relative, friend or just some inmate who simply hates ex cops. So there's always a potential target on their backs.
His ex cop privilege in this case almost got him killed.
赞同，他不应该有去任何地方选择/特权，因此被当作其他人一样对待，因为没有其他人会被授予这方面的许可。
监狱里的警察，不管他们是哪个国家的，可能有一天会遇到一个亲戚、朋友，或者只是一些讨厌前警察的囚犯。所以他们总有潜在的目标。
他在这个案子里的前警察特权差点害死他。
He's was put in federal prison because of risk for violence. ??
由于有暴力危险，他被关进了联邦监狱。
He is even the ex former mob member is in protective custody for being a drop out
他甚至是前黑帮成员因为辍学而被保护性拘留
I'm not surprised.
我并不感到惊讶。
I’m surprised he wasn’t in, protected custody cause inmates don’t like cops and cop inmates are a target alone not to mention what he did was bad enough.
我很惊讶他没有被保护监禁，因为囚犯不喜欢警察，而警察囚犯是唯一的目标，更不用说他的所作所为已经够糟糕的了。
He wanted people to feel sorry for him so he set this whole thing up for his next appeal
他想让人们同情他所以他把这整件事安排在下次上诉时
Think again!
再想想
You obviously have never been to prison. They don’t care about anyone
你显然没进过监狱。
他们不关心任何人
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He was trying to take him out. For certain.
他想干掉他，这是确定的。
Nah, that's how they say hello.??
不，那是他们打招呼的方式。
@TheAccursedEntity Hahahahaha.
LOL
@jedimindtrixr4kidz294
They guy had three years left on a thirty year sentence. Food must be good there.
那家伙30年的刑期还剩3年。那里的食物一定很好吃。
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He should be in jail for the rest of his life for not getting the job done.
他应该在监狱里度过余生，因为他没有完成任务。
He's an FBI informant.
他是联邦调查局的线人。
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Don't put your knee on someone's neck for over 6 minutes and maybe you won't get stabbed ??
不要把你的膝盖放在别人的脖子上超过6分钟，如此也许你不会被刺伤?
Someone in the government needs to go to jail for not being able to protect inmates. US prisons are a beastly affair with violence the norm, but surely the people running the place have to be held accountable for safety of the inmates.
政府里应该有人因为没能保护囚犯而进监狱。美国的监狱充斥着暴力，但毫无疑问，管理监狱的人必须对囚犯的安全负责。
What do you think the solution would be? I imagine it’s pretty hard to keep convicted murderers and gang members at bay. We could probably look to other countries with less violent prisons for some ideas
你认为解决方案是什么？我想要阻止杀人犯和帮派成员是很困难的，我们或许可以从其他监狱暴力较少的国家获得一些想法。
@SnailMan63 Norway runs prisons well from what I know. Americans treat prisoners like subhuman beasts. For a country founded on Christian values, there’s a whole lot of stone throwing around; it’s absolutely disgusting. But while the US prison population is so high, I fear it is virtually impossible to make US prisons significantly more humane, at least not without a significant cultural change in criminal communities… that’s still no excuse for allowing rape and beatings to happen under government supervision though. Slavery persists in the twisted Hammurabian pursuit of retributive justice
据我所知，挪威的监狱管理得很好。美国人对待囚犯就像对待非人的野兽。对于一个建立在基督教价值观基础上的国家来说，到处都有很多人扔石头；真恶心。但是，尽管美国监狱人口如此之多，我担心实际上不可能使美国监狱变得更加人性化，至少在犯罪社区没有重大文化变革的情况下是不可能的；尽管如此，这仍然不是允许强奸和殴打在政府监督下发生的借口。奴隶制在扭曲的汉谟拉比亚式对报复性正义的追求中持续存在。
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He didn't deserve protection. There are plenty of people hurt in prison every day. No sympathy for them? Can't believe anybody cares about him
他不值得保护。监狱里每天都有很多人受伤。无需同情他们，真不敢相信有人还会关心他
Your really worried about this man?
你真的很担心这个人吗?
@pringals420 not this man in particular, but of the rotten state of affairs in prison for everyone.
不是指这个人，而是指监狱里所有人的腐败状况。
@SnailMan63 I am no expert here,but like you am comparing with other developed countries that have a far more civilized system. I think though that one of the biggest factors is the privatization of the prison system, which creates a perverse profit incentive to imprison more people, make money out of bail bonds, selling cigarettes, poor infrastructure (as good infrastructure costs money). I think a comparison across countries would show that others don't privatize prisons.
我不是这方面的专家，但就像你和其他发达国家相比，他们的制度要文明得多。我认为最大的因素之一是监狱系统的私有化，它创造了一种不正当的利润激励，让更多的人入狱，从保释金，卖香烟，糟糕的基础设施(因为好的基础设施需要钱)中赚钱。我认为，各国之间的比较会表明，其他国家并没有将监狱私有化。
Prison isn’t meant to be fun. don’t do the crime, if you can’t do the time??
监狱本来就不好玩。如果你不能坐牢，就不要犯罪。
Maybe Derrick shouldn't have have so racist and so evil. Maybe if he never killed an innocent man you wouldn't care about violence in prison
也许德里克不应该这么种族主义，这么邪恶。也许如果他没杀过无辜的人你就不会在意监狱里的暴力了
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I saw an article that claims Chauvin was indeed trained to use the move he used on Floyd. It also went on to state (I think) that Floyd, the year before, resisted the same way. And why would a former cop with this type of conviction be put in general public. Who wouldn't see this coming?
我看到一篇文章说肖文确实接受过训练，学会了对付弗洛伊德的招式。它还说(我认为)弗洛伊德在前一年也以同样的方式进行了抵制。为什么一个有这种前科的前警察会被放在公众面前。没预见到这一点吗?
why should a convicted murderer be given special treatment in the pen?
为什么一个被定罪的杀人犯在监狱里要受到特殊待遇?
Do you think he deserves a special privilege?
你认为他应该享有特权吗?
AUTOPSY SAYS FLOYD DIED FROM OVERDOSE!!
尸检显示弗洛伊德死于服药过量!!
@jackel99 Because of reasons like this. Due to the high profile nature of his crime and the fact he's a former cop it puts a target on his back.
因为这样的原因。由于他的罪行引人注目而且他以前是警察这让他成为了众矢之的。
I used to be a correctional officer, and cops, former cops, and family members of cops actually DO get special inmate classifcation and designated into their own sections.
They don't get put in general population.
Same thing with LGBT inmates, suicidal inmates, child sex crime inmates, etc etc.
I don't understand how this guy was with other regular inmates.
我曾经是一名狱警，警察、前警察和警察的家人确实得到了特殊的囚犯分类，并被指定到他们自己的部门。
他们不会被放在普通人群中。
同性恋囚犯、自杀囚犯、儿童性犯罪囚犯等等也是如此。
我不明白这家伙是怎么和其他普通犯人在一起的。
He died of an overdose heart failure
他死于过量的心力衰竭
he did the crime now doing the time. why should our tax dollars protect him?
他犯了罪，现在正在服刑。为什么我们的税金要保护他?
Cause the government had to have an escape goat that's why
因为政府必须找个替罪羊，这就是原因
And the chief says they did not get training using the knee on the neck. The chief line about the training. It was in the training book.
该负责人表示，他们没有接受过使用膝盖的训练。关于培训的主要内容，在培训手册里有。
Yes. I saw the COP's testimony and he perjured himself. Worse yet, the judge would not allow the training manual in as evidence. I can't understand why that, alone, is not grounds for reversal.
是的。我看了警察的证词，他做了伪证。更糟糕的是，法官不允许培训手册作为证据。我不明白为什么这一点不能成为逆转的理由。
The problem was he held Floyd in that hold for an extended period of time. That's not what you're intended to do. Nowhere it says 'kneel on his neck until he expires', any reasonable person would understand that there is a limit to how you use force as a police officer.
问题是他把弗洛伊德压了很长一段时间。那不是你该采取的措施。没有哪个地方说“跪在他的脖子上直到他死去”，任何有理智的人都会明白，作为一名警察，使用武力是有限度的。
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We are no better than any other country when it comes to morals and fairness
在道德和公平方面，我们并不比其他任何国家好
By an FBI informant no less
而且还是联邦调查局的线人
Prisoners really hate cops!
囚犯真的很讨厌警察!
Wow, this was over a week ago and only now details are being released !! Something’s up with that….HMMm
哇，这是一个多星期前的事了，现在才公布细节!有点不对劲
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Of maybe, and please hear me out, doctors follow this thing called doctor patient confidentiality and investigation to know all the facts before release any info to the public. We didn't always live is an instant gratification world. Patience.
也许，请听我把话说完，医生遵循医患保密和调查的原则，在向公众发布任何信息之前要了解所有事实。我们并不总是生活在一个即时满足的世界，耐心点。
The prison medic issued him 22 bandaids and he'll be back in general population by tomorrow.
狱医给他开了22块创可贴明天他就能回普通牢房了。
Just imagine, Chauvin desired being in a federal penitentiary b/c he thought it would've been less volatile compared to a state penitentiary. Damn..... Body snatchers are everywhere.
想象一下，肖文希望呆在联邦监狱，因为他认为那里比州立监狱更稳定。该死的……到处都是抢尸者。
Oh that was a hit, they just didn’t manage to kill him. Better get himself moved to protective custody.
这招很成功，他们刚好做到没能杀了他。最好把他转移到保护性监禁。
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Well prison officials should check the attacker’s Canteen Account!!
监狱官员应该检查袭击者的食堂账户!
22 times is a lot but I hope Chauvin can forgive him for his transgression and ask that the court show mercy on him.
刺杀22刀算很多了，但我希望肖文能原谅他的罪过，并请求法庭对他仁慈。
Pretty common stab count in prison. The weapons they have are often very short so it takes a lot to actually kill someone with it.
这在监狱里很常见。他们拥有的武器通常都很短，所以要用它杀死一个人需要很多时间。
All I can say is that attacker was an amateur. If he really knew what he was doing, it only takes one hit to expire someone.
我只能说袭击者是个业余爱好者。如果他真的知道自己在做什么，只要一击就能杀死一个人。
I hope his family sues the heck out of this facility for not placing him in protective custody.
I'm also praying for his recovery. ??
我希望他的家人能起诉这家监狱因为他没有受到保护性监禁。
我也为他的康复祈祷。
That's what happens when you start to get comfortable and let your gaurds down...
当你开始适应并放松警惕时，就会发生这种情况……
The stabber has been placed on paid administrative leave while the other inmates conduct an internal investigation.
行凶者已被安排带薪行政休假，其他囚犯正在进行内部调查。
Only the devil could survive so many stabs.
只有魔鬼才能躲过这么多刺。
my question is that if they are training cops to hold people down like this maybe it shouldnt be the cops fault maybe the training department that trained this cop..but big people they should know most always have a difficult time breathing..so all cops and guards should be aware and not use such fource unless they have a gun or and knife.
我的问题是，如果他们训练警察像这样压制人，也许这不应该是警察的错，也许是训练警察的培训部门的错，但他们应该知道，大多数人在这种情况都会呼吸困难，所以所有警察和警卫都应该意识到，除非他们有枪或刀，否则不要使用这种程度的武力。
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It ahs come out now that the Medical Examiner determined that George Floyd died from a Drug Overdose, not from Chauvin putting his leg on Floyd's neck. The Medical Examiner felt to save his Career and prevent more rioting in Minneapolis- he had to say that Floyd died from asphyxiation, rather than a drug Overdose. Megan Kelly did an excellent show on this featuring DocumentarhFilmmakers who did a Film- The Fall of Miinneapolis which takes a "Revisionist ", but Truthful look at the Derek Chauvn/George Floyd case. Tucker Carlson has also covered this on his show on Twitter as well as others.
Derek Chauvin is a Political Prisoner just as much as Julian Assaunge. He is being scapegoated for Racial and other Political Reasons.
现在有消息说，验尸官确定乔治·弗洛伊德死于药物过量，而不是肖文把腿放在弗洛伊德的脖子上导致他死的。法医认为，为了保住自己的职业生涯，防止明尼阿波利斯发生更多骚乱，他不得不说弗洛伊德死于窒息，而不是药物过量。梅根·凯利做了一个精彩的节目，介绍了纪录片制作人，他们制作了一部电影——《明尼阿波利斯的陷落》，这部电影以“修正主义”的方式，但真实地审视了德里克·肖文和乔治·弗洛伊德的案件。塔克·卡尔森也在他的推特节目和其他节目中报道了这一点。
德里克·肖文和朱利安·阿桑奇一样都是政治犯。由于种族和其他政治原因，他成了替罪羊。